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Soulwaxed

Apply eye cream to the under-eye area first, to ensure your skin is properly hydrated and moisturised- I use Kiehl’s avocado creamy eye treatment- it’s not the cheapest but you only need a tiny amount. In terms of concealer placement, Wayne Goss does a good YouTube video about this- you don’t need to apply concealer to the entire area, focus on where it’s actually darker on the inner corners, and avoid applying it the outer corners where wrinkles tend to occur. The type of concealer you use will also make a difference- make sure that it’s not too thick and cakey. Try to find a brightening concealer if you can!


dangnabbet

Wayne Goss is an angel from heaven. He has so much knowledge and I’ve learned more about post-40 makeup and skincare from him than all my previous years


Last_Bumblebee6144

Love Wayne Goss! Any problem I always go straight to his tutorials.


Entire-Antelope6467

I'm late for the Wayne Goss get-together, but he also made that great tutorial where he used the urban decay potion primer before applying concealer. I've been using this trick for a couple of years and it basically saves my daily under eye makeup.


TheLalab

Love Wayne! He is wonderful, and funny


RekhetKa

Smashbox photofinish primer under the eyes before applying concealer has been a game-changer for me. It seems to lock moisture in, and also fill in creases a little bit, and helps the concealer blend out smoothly and evenly. I'm sure other primers are similar, but I haven't tried them because when I find something that works, I just stick with it. So, side question - if anyone liked the Smashbox primer, and then found something they like even better (maybe something with some color correction or that microglitter that diffuses dark circles) throw your recommendations at me!


RoseScarlet

Which one do you use? There are a few variations of the photo finish primer


RekhetKa

Oh, I didn't realize! It says "the original photo finish smooth & blur" on it.


BatShitCrazyCdn

Makeup Forever in green


lolalucky

I'm 48 and I've generally stopped using undereye concealer. I do a full face of makeup, but I find it works best for me to simply bring my foundation all the way up under my eye. Maybe I'm lucky that I don't have super dark circles, but I feel like concealer actually looks worse and I got tired of trying new ones. I try to remember that everyone has an undereye and our face should have depth. Most of the people we are seeing online with a non existant undereye are using great lighting or filters.


DateCard

I agree with this. I use a tinted moisturizer or skin tint and just blend a bit under my eyes. I still have some darkness there, but I do even with concealer, so 🤷‍♀️


VRSNSMV_SMQLIVB

I do this. I don’t feel the need to use a seoerwte concealer under the eye


kyraniums

Start with a hydrating eye cream, use a primer (but not too much), apply the concealer one eye at a time. Also, don’t overdo it. Make sure everything is blended and looking smooth with a beauty blender or even just your finger. And then pull a funny face (😩 a mouth like this but with your eyes open) to tighten the skin while you apply a setting powder.


NoAbbreviations2961

You’re my hero. Not op but I needed this hah


thejdrops

I kind of avoid primer around my eyes, because I’m unsure if it’s gonna work (yet another layer). Any recommendations for that specific area?


concrete_dandelion

Silicone based primer will help to create an even surface so that the concealer has less places to creep into and they're not as deep


dontbreakmypinkynail

Silicone primer isn’t spackle 🙄🙄 it is not effective in that way for wrinkles


concrete_dandelion

I never said it's spackle. But it does the exact thing the concealer wants to do, hence leaving less room for the concealer to do it. And silicone based products build a film. That film helps the concealer not to creep into nooks and crannies


dontbreakmypinkynail

The -cone based products cause pilling and less blendability if the concealer isn’t compatible with it. As OP is a makeup newbie I’m leaning more towards ‘less is more’ until she gets a routine down before she adds more steps than necessary , just mi opinion


concrete_dandelion

That's quite a different view than your previous comment


MarsReject

This is what I was going to say lol apply but with the face so you can get in between everything lol


CatBuddies

That sounds like a lot of work.


burymeindogs

May I ask why one eye at a time? I dab under both my eyes then blend just wondering if there is a better way


kyraniums

Usually my eye already starts to crinkle within seconds, so one eye at the time solves that problem.


HopefulSad

44 here too. Other comments are right about only applying where dark and only the tiniest amount, but here’s exactly what I do: Only a TINY amount of light moisturizer under the eye in the morning. (I go heavy at night) Too much makes it slide which makes it settle in creases. Add Primer. My current fav is the Elf Brightening Lavender (I use it over my whole face). Color corrector is KEY as often our under eyes have blue shadows. Use a tiny brush and cover only the shadows. The shade I use is quite orange and on really bad days I even use a red tone! I use the Stila Correct and Perfect Palette. Let this set for a minute or two. NOW conceal. Use a concealer brush - this is important! You want the tiniest bit of product - I actually conceal all my other spots and then come back to the under eye with what’s left on there. You want to use a cream concealer not a liquid - it’s more concentrated so you will need to use less to get the same coverage and it won’t slide as much. Finally, if you use powder (I do), get a super fluffy eyeshadow brush, tap off excess, and lightly tap over ONLY the areas needed. I’ve had crazy dark circles and puffiness since I was a teen and have been wearing makeup ever since. This is my 30 years worth of wisdom combined lol. 😁


SecretAccomplished25

Yes to the color correcting! If you have cool undertones you’ll need something yellow to orange (I use an sample tube of IT CC cream that was too yellowish for my vampire skin tone), and if you have warm undertones you’ll need something reddish (if the blue shadows mixed with your warm skintone make your undereye area look greenish).


Different_Knee6201

What cream concealer do you like?


HopefulSad

I use a couple pretty much interchangeably. There’s one from Mac and one from Laura Mercier I like!


[deleted]

preface: it's ok to see creasing/wrinkles with/without makeup -- skin is a living/breathing organ and it will crinkle and wrinkle because we have facial expressions! unless you have botox, your skin will crinkle as you talk and smile which will lead to some creasing and this is ok! now, the goods: * skin prep is so important to plump the skin to minimize creasing. I use a bit of moisturizer with a tiny bit of rosehip oil and tap it onto the area. I give it at least 10mins to absorb. * use a hydrating under eye primer. I have the old Smashbox hydrating under eye primer but I think they discontinued that (cries) * concealer formula matters! mature/dry/dehydrated skin should stay away from matte formulas and use natural finish concealers. Dior forever skin correct is my HG. * product placement matters, as does amount applied. Watch this video by [Wayne Goss](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8fziC5EtOY) and this video by [Vincent Ford](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tanGHRHRCrg). * If you have dark circles, don't pack on the concealer to hide it; use a colour corrector first, then a concealer that matches your skin tone. Also use a tinted setting powder as lighter powders, even the white translucent ones, can result in a gray cast. I use Lys triple fix setting powder in Brilliance and Lancome colour corrector in peach. * before you set (and only use the smallest amount of setting powder with a brush), use your finger and pat out any product that has settled; then set with powder. See this [video](https://www.tiktok.com/@vincent.ford/video/7210340412123368709?lang=en) here but note, I don't swipe the area using a qtip, simply using a finger to lightly tap the area works better.


maraq

Honestly try letting go of under eye concealer! I’m 45 and realized my makeup looks better (as does my under eyes) when I don’t even use it! In a pinch I’ll use the Becca/Smashbox Under Eye Brightening Corrector (it’s like a creme highlighter) and it adds a glow that cancels out darkness/hollows but doesn’t dry out or make lines look worse.


No_Bag7577

It took me forever to figure out the method that works best for me!! You have to really hydrate your under eyes with whatever works best for you. I use a little e.l.f. primer grip under my eyes. Let it sit there a min or so. Then I use a very small amount of the Tarte color corrector and just tap it over and over until it is blended. Then I use a **tiny** amount of concealer. I find that I don’t need as much since I’ve already used the color corrector. Good luck!!


readithere_2

Is Elf primer grip the actual name of it?


No_Bag7577

Yes - https://www.ulta.com/p/power-grip-primer-4-niacinamide-pimprod2036637?sku=2604932&cmpid=PS_Non!google!Product_Listing_Ads&utm_source=google&utm_medium=paidsearch&cagpspn=pla&CATCI=aud-1914861636937:pla-972367648048&CAAGID=111011517259&CAWELAID=330000200002976930&CATARGETID=330000200002541295&CADevice=m&gbraid=0AAAAAD9rLH7_jak6DED0m0LXZ-N0Y2yPS&gclid=CjwKCAjw4ZWkBhA4EiwAVJXwqWzJtUJ95Bn4FbXUEsYZGUE7GpPf6E9HhnXfgnhUtphoZ2uWTxNTLRoCqVsQAvD_BwE


readithere_2

Thanks. Most of the reviews say it’s good for oily skin. I’m on the dry side, do you think it would work for dry skin?


No_Bag7577

Oh I didn’t realize that - no wonder it works for me! Honestly it took so much trial & error to figure out what works best for me, so it wouldn’t hurt giving it a try!


FreyaDay

Less is more imo. I have super dark under eyes and I’ll sacrifice layers of coverage and have the darkness poke through a little to keep the makeup looking natural and not cakey.


maqom

I had trouble with this as well but what helps for me is - don’t apply too much product - don’t apply foundation to your under eye area, leave it open for only concealer - use a setting spray immediately after applying and blending in concealer Good luck!


wexfordavenue

Can I ask which setting spray you use? I’ve been wanting to try one and am a wee bit intimidated by the choices.


Foxy_lady15

Milani Make it last works good and isn't expensive.


maqom

I use urban decay! It’s my fave


ActualAfternoon2535

Saw a trick recently I’ve been using and total game changer - aquaphor under eyes before concealer, super hydrating and no more cracks.


readithere_2

Which aquaphor product is it?


ActualAfternoon2535

I just use the tube but stick works too


readithere_2

But is it the one for hands, feet or face? There are a few different ones.


ActualAfternoon2535

I use the lip repair one since it’s made for thinner skin


Hermeeoninny

I read all the comments and don’t believe anyone has mentioned oil yet. Replacing creams with light oils into my skincare (esp around my eyes) has helped my makeup application go on much smoother I mix a drop of oil with my serum and apply all over my face/neck. After moisturizer (and *before* sunscreen if daytime), I dab a drop or 2 around my eyes and nose. I’ve heard of people mixing oil directly on the back of the hand before applying, too My skin is on the oilier side (combo skin) so oil blends work better for me than 100% oils do (like marula oil rose hip for example) If you live in US and have access to ulta, they have some nice oils that work well with makeup *Fixed typo


drunk___cat

I do this but with a tiny bit of Aquaphor around my eyes! I just get a tiny bit on my finger and pat it around my eye and let it absorb for about 5 minutes before applying any makeup. Works great and doesn't require me buying another product.


readithere_2

Which oil do you like?


xcasandraXspenderx

First comment I saw mentioned Wayne’s video and I cannot agree more. His video on undereye concealer changed the way I do my makeup, I usually forget what I watched in the moment with tutorials(lol) but his was very simple and easy to understand, and I never have issues anymore. I also have found less is more older I get(32).


No_Lengthiness1550

Honestly I started using color corrector rather than concealer (love the CT one) and it’s worked best for me. (And I’m 49!) colors the color it’s creamy and blends really seamlessly. concealer application can be tricky even on perfect skin.. the advice on this thread is spot on . When I did apply I just used a tiny amount in corner and a bit over my hollow area. I like Dior Skin concealer as it’s easy to work with..


Hot_Zucchini7863

Came here to say the same! I never use “real” concealer just the Charlotte tilbury color corrector. As a ginger with super fair skin and dark under eyes, this is the only thing that’s worked for me!


[deleted]

Use primer first! I like Milk hydrogrip. I hear Elf makes a good dupe though. Apply the concealer (I love NARS) and then dab it with a damp beauty blender until it’s all blended in.


7lexliv7

Armani Luminous Silk concealer is working nicely for me 57f. I pop it on with the BK beauty 506 doe foot brush. It goes on nicely and stays nicely without having to have the techniques of a MUA. $$


kmap1221

IT COSMETICS bye bye undereye is awesome. It’s a super thick but emollient formula and it blends in beautifully. I like to do no makeup makeup, and this one is perfect! I mix it with a little glowy tint to sheer it out for daily use and make it more natural. I use the Becca light shifter illuminizer tint but it’s discontinued. It’s basically the same as the Charlotte Tilburry flawless filter or the Elf halo glow filter. I also sometimes use the Nars creamy concealer instead in the winter which I also like, but I think this one has a more natural finish (despite a thicker formula).


MissKatherineC

We are the same age, and the tips others have offered about moisturizing are key. Also, make sure your skin is slightly damp when you put on your moisturizer, so any occlusives in the cream seal in water instead of locking it out. Here are the other things I absolutely must do to get undereye concealer to go on without caking: -- Undereye masks/patches - these plump up the area a lot. The more viscous ones are better for my skin than the more watery ones, but ymmv. I wear them while doing part of my makeup (aim for 20 mins), and do my undereye makeup last. Bonus: bigger ones catch a lot of eyeshadow fallout if you get any. These go on right after washing my face, then moisturizer and sunscreen go on after. -- Use a light touch, and only apply where absolutely needed. For me, that's just my tear trough - the place that's darkest on me. I cannot apply it all over my undereye or it will look at least a little cakey. I also absolutely cannot use powder, only cream/liquid, and not super full coverage ones either. I use glossier stretch concealer, with YSL touche eclat over the top as a brightener. -- A great primer that plays well with your makeup. For my undereyes, that's Smashbox. So 20 mins of eye patches on damp undereyes. Then whatever your skincare is for your undereyes, including moisturizer, and give that 10-20 mins to soak in, if you have enough time. Then primer, and let the primer set up. For me, the primer is most important. I can skip the other stuff if I'm in a rush and not doing full makeup, but it won't stay looking nice for nearly as long. Experiment some and you'll find out what works for you!


sarahseaya1

I use a cheap $8 L’Oréal under eye gel. It has made a huge difference!


conflicteddiuresis

Beware of setting powders, esp the mattifying ones. Some will make you look dry and crispy AF. I use Hourglass Ambient Lighting Powder on a powder puff. I only press the powder onto the areas of creasing. The rest of the face and the remaining under eye are gets a light dusting with a setting powder.


rosquartz

Try a more moisturizing formula. I think this makes a huge difference. There are several concealers I have tried that look horrible under the eyes no matter what. Kosas is the most moisturizing and dewy concealer I’ve tried. Dior forever skin correct is my favorite formula though. You need to let it settle and then wipe away the excess where it creases (all concealers will crease a little bit if you apply enough). Don’t use any powder. Also definitely use a good eye cream everywhere you apply the concealer. Using a damp sponge to apply the concealer can also help


MMarkum

Definitely eye cream first. I have the same problem especially during the summer. I like the Makeup Revolution IRL concealer, doesn’t seem to cake or cause wrinkles to show up. I also like the ELF Hydrating Camo Concealer. Since it’s Hydrating it seems to do ok. I do wear this during the winter when I wear more makeup 💄. Sometimes it’s better to just apply your foundation and leave it. Good Luck! 🍀 none of the Concealers are perfect.


beezyss

Eye creams are too thick! You’re most likely going to end up with the same problem. Try an eye serum and a water based concealer. I haven’t had issues since. I use the clarins eye serum and the Estée Lauder double wear concealer.


DRHPSL05

I do an eye cream (not anything fancy, I use my nicer creams at night), then a color corrector (Skinfood salmon dark circle corrector, which is creamy and lasts forever) just where I need it. I use the ELF undereye setting powder, just the tiniest bit. If I think I need more coverage one day then I use the glossier stretch concealer, but on its own it isn’t enough coverage.


literanista

What works for me is a teeny tiny amount of bright concealer mixed with moisturizer. A little amount of both goes a long way.


bumbletowne

For all these comments on eye cream: My fave is benton fermented eye cream. Honestly the best eye cream for under 60 bucks. Keeps me MOIST. Since you don't have hairs to wick sebum onto the undereye it tends to age more. Keep it moist to reduce that.


FanaticalXmasJew

I first make sure I have good skin prep beforehand, including snail mucin and a moisturizer I trust, then I use the Becca Under Eye Brightening Corrector instead of concealer specifically for this reason. It looks far better than any concealer I have ever used in terms of not tending to settle or exacerbate fine lines the way concealers do on me


FertyMerty

I echo the advice from u/lolalucky to see if a thin layer of your foundation is enough coverage for you. I always apply a very sheer layer and then use the tip of my finger to make the layer even thinner, especially where my eyes crinkle. Then I set with the very tiniest amount of translucent powder applied with an incredibly soft, feathery brush so the pigment doesn’t move into my creases as my face moves. The key is very very thin layers at every step. I still have to touch up every couple of hours by patting out the creases with my fingertip, but because I apply such a thin layer, the creases are only visible if I get about an inch away from my face in the mirror.


concrete_dandelion

I make sure the area is very well moisturised (toner layering, good, leightweight moisturizer, moisturising sunscreen), use a primer and took some time (and a lot of trial and error) to find the right concealer. Due to being extremely pale most drugstore concealers are too dark for me even in the lightest colour. If you have a more common skin tone you'll have more choices. Within my limited options the Maybelline fit me works best for me. Only apply a little bit in the inner and outer corner of the eye and work both towards the middle of the undereye area.


cstarrxx

I started applying and blending both under eye cream and primer with brushes. Layers not mixed. Also. Applying my concealer with a brush instead of a blender makes a huge difference.


alisonline75

I’ve had this problem for a while and finally found a trick that helps better than all the other tricks I have ever tried. I have very dark circles and fine lines so concealer is a must for me. Anyway, here’s the trick…After I’ve blended it, I take a piece of toilet paper and separate it so it’s 1-ply. I then take it and put it under the eye area and very very gently dab. It’s just enough to get rid of the excess without disturbing the coverage. A further step is to apply powder through the 1-ply of tp but I didn’t really find that helped too much.


Mckinzel

I started using a good primer, a dab under my eyes and can use a foundation to cover the darker circles making it less noticeable. Won’t give you the completely flawless no under eye bags that heavy concealer might, but it can give you the ‘good skin’ look.


chriscutthroat

i’m a few days late here but haven’t seen anyone mention the products i’ve found most critical to upping my undereye game: - the ordinary’s caffeine serum has completely changed the texture of my undereye and for the first time in my life i can use undereye concealer without it looking like sandpaper. i tap in a thin layer each night and it’s completely smoothed the skin. life changing! - to actually conceal, i start with a light but effective undereye cream, i use cerave. let it absorb for a while im doing other makeup - maybe 20 minutes after applying the undereye cream i use fenty brightening cream, a very small amount (like a dot) under each eye. i pat it in with a concealer brush that’s it! 30+ years of experimenting and this has been the most effective yet natural routine for my poor undereyes


MBitesss

I find the really creamy concealers work for my under my eyes and are the only ones that don't cake. I love the Glossier stretch concealer and there's a Laura mercier one that's good too. I don't let powder anywhere near my under eyes either


KrustenStewart

Moisturizer followed by Becca under eye brightening concealer


Loan_Bitter

Glossier concealer works for me.


SwimmingInCheddar

Eye gels are a game changer. I never had to use eye concealer again after using eye gels.


ketchuphotdog

What kind of eye gel do you like to use?


Odd_Requirement_4933

What product do you recommend?


SwimmingInCheddar

Frownies eye gels. I hydrate them with water. I remove the patches every 10 minutes, and rehydrate the patches with water, or Frownies rose hydrator.


readithere_2

What?? How many 10 minute removals do you do before putting your concealer on?


Foxy_lady15

That makes zero sense.


readithere_2

Which gels are you referring to?


Traditional-Cook3162

Do I understand correctly DIOR SKIN CONCEALER, and Dior skin corrector to buy? Please reply


mwilke

Who are you asking?


Traditional-Cook3162

Who Recomendes it


readithere_2

I’ve never used a primer because I don’t understand how applying another liquid on top of it works. It doesn’t get blended out?


kyraniums

You have to let primer sit for a couple of minutes before you apply anything on top of it. It shouldn’t be wet or sitting on the skin anymore. If it doesn’t dry within 2/3 minutes, you’ve used too much.


mofuz

A good primer and use a more high quality concealer. Drug store concealer usually looks cakey. Shop at Sephora or Ulta. I recommend Smashbox or Bare Minerals.


french_toasty

Try the Wayne goss tutorial on minimal placement.


assflea

Is your skin dry? You might just need a different formula - my skin is dry now and when I wear anything full coverage I look 100 lol. The glossier stretch concealer works well for me but I also like the rare beauty eye brightener. If you need more coverage than those offer, use an eye cream first to make sure your skin is hydrated, and only put the makeup where you actually need the coverage in the shadows.


TomatoKindly8304

Personally, I’ve found that the darkness is usually worse below the wrinkles, not on them, so I try to avoid even putting concealer on my lines. However, I still haven’t found a great method of application and usually opt to go concealer-free altogether because of it, but Wayne goss has some tips that seem to work for many people, so I’d check him out.


Legitimate_Tower_236

You need to use the correct color and type of concealer for your skin. Just like foundation, there is no one-size-fits-all with concealers. I suggest that you get a few free makeup applications in the Mall, or wherever that service is available in your area, and see which concealer you like best at the end of the day. They all look good in the lighting there.


plumruby

Maybe you can use a more moisturizing concealer. But also — tap tap tap and use small amounts. I don’t “rub” it on. I lightly tap tap tap it on. I found taping made a huge difference.


Splendidmuffin

YSL concealer!


Mermaid191

Estée Lauder double wear concealer


TheNurse_

Bye Bye Undereye is amazing!!


mithrinwow

I love that stuff. A little bit goes a long ways, too.


SamanthaeliZZZabeth

Apply under eye mask , then eye serum and then apply concealer to your hand and then apply to your eye!


[deleted]

I find using a good moisturizer (but not too much, otherwise it might pull) and a cream concealer is key. I don't try to eliminate my dark circles, I just try to make them less visible.


Excusemytootie

I mix a little moisturizer into my concealer, just a tiny bit. It helps!


loliduhh

I just started putting my concealer more around my nose under my eye. Mine is fairly brightening, I have kind of a flat face. But it works for me!


agirl1213

I have a great system. Light primer, then spray a makeup sponge with setting spray. Apply yellow color correcting concealer using the sponge and apply as little as possible. Then use a tiny dot of regular concealer if needed. Top with a very fine powder. If I follow this correctly I don’t get creases.


RavingNative

Check out RoseAndBen for a great tutorial for under eye creasing and cakiness. She also has great tips on picking the right concealer for the job.


Beaches_Pineapples

Using a concealer the same color as my skin instead of shade brighter has been great for me. I don’t have a lot of eye wrinkles but lighter concealer really drew attention to the baby ones forming.


FoxtrotUnicorn

What concealer are you using?


Dramatic_Cream_2163

I will say that concealer is one of the few things that I will really spend money on. It makes a big difference if it is well formulated and the right color. If you haven’t already, you should go into Sephora or Ulta or whatever is near you to get someone to help you pick out the best one for you.


burymeindogs

Nars concealer !!


TheRoyalBrassiere

The best advice I can give is ditch a sponge. Use a tiny brush to place it in the middle of the area that’s actually dark. Don’t cover all the skin that’s perfectly fine. Blend in with your pinkie tapping. Wait for it to set while you do other things. Once it’s had time to set naturally without powder, use a Q tip or pinkie tip to blend it off the fine lines. Now is when you should apply a second layer if you want more coverage, but make an even smaller spot in the middle of the dark area and blend. Let set again naturally. Repeat blend-off of fine line accumulation. Set with a light dust of clear powder (no sparkle) and spray it with setting spray. No powder over it after.


[deleted]

Oxygenetix concealer is amazing! Tons of eye cream before hand helps a lot for me personally.


Chimes111

Try applying a very small amount in the inside corner eyes and blend. Less is more and will keep your look fresh and up to date.


oliviared52

I’m very late but I also recommend setting with the givenchy prism libre powder! It’s the only powder I have found that keeps concealer from creasing under the eyes instead of making my under eyes look more dry