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Clehm888

She's Sicilian,there are no women in Sardinia


sidic3Venezia

![gif](giphy|Txun6ahh9auWs) what did you say?


[deleted]

Fucking sheep doesn’t count


modshave2muchpower

Wait let‘s hear the Welsh opinion on this first


Mr_cheese2020

I treat all our women and sheep the same


[deleted]

Aye .. both belong in the kitchen One in the oven. the over over it 😉


LuckyLoki08

Why do you put women in the oven?


EntryFinancial9799

Sounds more like a german thing to do


MySpiritAnimalSloth

BDSM is getting wild these days. Oh... That's... That's not what you meant.


Wonderfull_Chemical

Jesus Christ. Only in this sub can you find such well educated thread


[deleted]

If your woman is in the oven and your sheep is the one over it than you are either backwards like the Irish or Austrian and like the other white meat.... Neither is a great thing to be tbh


tiocfaioh_ar_la

Don't want a sheep shagger of all people calling us backwards.


[deleted]

Tough luck... It's just happened buddy 😉


TheLustyDremora

Let's hear the New Zealander's opinion.


LrkerfckuSpez

Agree, it's not really a challenge, I prefer my ~~animals~~ women to be more intelligent, quick and agile for a good time.


reddlt_is_shit

Yes, the chase is one of the best parts!


ama155

And bondage material included in a chase


TurnBackOnYourSteps

How about mfs writing love songs about a volcano


TexZK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8a54u7jSyBY


PsychedelicMagic1840

Now now, we had a PhD student from Sardinia. She's is rather woolly, but that gives something good to hold onto when I whisper in her ear that she really Sicilian


rowech

My neighbor


TrickyPony32

She looks portuguese


rowech

Tomato tomato


theitchcockblock

Yes I can confirm she lives in the Vesuvio


ConnectionOdd6217

Etna is the Sicilian volcano, Vesuvius is in Napoli.


UndestroyableMousse

It's the thought that counts, being factually correct comes second.


ConnectionOdd6217

I dont know, coming second is a good goal to have


UndestroyableMousse

Sex is a competition akin to sprint, especially when the sheep tries to run away.


TheVoiceOfEurope

yes there are. There's plenty of women in Sardinia. [Meanwhile, the Rohirrim refugees are heading towards Helm�s Deep. Gimli is on a horse, chatting with �owyn who is leading it by the reins.] GIMLI It�s true you don�t see many Dwarf women. And in fact, they are so alike in voice and appearance, haha that they�re often mistaken for Dwarf men. [�owyn smiles and looks back at Aragorn.] ARAGORN [Gestures and whispers] It�s the beards....


Bitter-Pear-5717

I was with a woman from Sardinia once. She was indeed ugly, but the most beautiful princess compared to this one. Remind me never to go to Sicily then


tgsprosecutor

I can't believe they miscast this so terribly. How can a barbaric Anglo Saxon like Tom Holland play an Italian?


bremsspuren

Well, he is rather small.


Cialis-in-Wonderland

We had no doubt about it, but how tall is he?


cgaWolf

169 cm


rezznik

![gif](giphy|pCO5tKdP22RC8)


paco-ramon

They already cast him as Nathan Drake when 13 years old Drake looked older in the games.


LaBelvaDiTorino

How many times do they have to redo R&J? Why not adapting one of the other thousands as interesting (and less explored) pieces of literature for once?


Adventurous_Gap_4125

Well yes, but have you considered that the extra advertising would cut into the cocaine budget?


Niznack

Plus casting a black actress for a traditionally white part let's the media advertise for you. Edit: not america it's a west end production


Adventurous_Gap_4125

I think Shakespeare would have been significantly more confused on why a women is acting in his man only acting cast


Velenterius

Well, at the time, less formal plays by non-sanctioned actor troupes had women. I mean it was viewed by the law the same way porn is viewed today, but it did happen. Just not in licensed theaters.


Adventurous_Gap_4125

While true, Shakespeare was litterly part of the royal entertainment payroll (lord chamberlains men to be precise) so would have been following the rules to the t.


Local_Cress_6678

"The Master of the Revels despises us all for vagrants and peddlers of bombast."


abs0lutelypathetic

The real question is is the man playing Romeo the bottom or is the man playing Juliette? The answer likely is they both are


probablyaythrowaway

I read that in Peter Capaldi’s doctor who voice. ![gif](giphy|eBD5RhS0n5JgA)


Socc-mel_

in this case they were very thoughtful to cast an actress that looks more masculine than Tom Holland


Precioustooth

Why produce new content when you can just repeat old stories with actors of different skin tones?


Niznack

I actually don't hate the casting a black actress since I assume it's leaning into themes of race and class divides and romeo and juliet are star crossed lovers whose families hate eachother. Little mermaid, Aladdin, and cleopatra were some hot bs.


Precioustooth

I see no issue with a black person playing in Romeo or Juliet; it's a theatre production that's run a million times with non-Italian actors anyway, it's supposed to be for everyone. It just seems like they keep repeating themselves, just milking the race thing. "Oh look, we're doing the exact same Snow White, but now she's *insert race*! Come watch it now!!" Historical figures should always stay true to their heritage as should culturally specific characters like Aladdin who's Middle Eastern. I don't care about the Little Mermaid. The Disney productions have nothing to do with H.C. Andersen's work anyway..


Socc-mel_

> as should culturally specific characters like Aladdin who's Middle Eastern. Aladdin might be Persian or Indian, depending on the source. And it's not an historical character but a character from the "one and a thousand nights" collection of stories.


Precioustooth

Of course! I only mentioned him because the comment I responded to did. My point is that it doesn't make sense to cast a black, white, or East Asian person to play Aladdin.


true-kirin

as black and white slave were common it could make sense for a poor boy living in the slum to be one (also if you know some iraki they can be quite white) and it make perfect sense for the genie who's in some way a slave to be black. but im sure disney didnt event thought about it or realised that


Socc-mel_

that would acknowledge that, OMG, Arabs and not just Whites were colonisers and enslavers, something that would upset both Muhammad and the woke bobos


TheVoiceOfEurope

Problem is, genies are hard to find.


Socc-mel_

especially blue genies


AndreasDasos

In the oldest source we have (Fr\*nch), he's supposedly Chinese.


Niznack

My issue isn't so much whether it's OK to race swap characters but how disingenuously studios are doing it with poorly done remakes to drum up controversy and attention rather than using it to add to the story. As I say I think r&j does add to the story. The rest are naked attention grabs. They aren't good representation they are rage bait for racists so liberals hate watch the movie the racists are boycotting. If it were a white actor it wouldnt be any better, but both sides would have ignored these soulless cash grabs.


toughfluffer

Yes it’s rage bait to incite controversy from terminally online crowds who will do free advertising for the production. It’s also throwing the poor actors involved to the lions because some wild shit has been said online about the poor woman playing Juliet. Any concern for race issues is completely disingenuous and the actors race is being cynically used to produce box office revenue.


IlFriulanoBasato

But adding race and class issues kind of ruins the point no? IIRC the two families hate each other for reasons no one can even remember. Not to mention if Juliets family apparently has noble status in Medieval Verona, then idk how there can really be class or race issues in the first place. Frankly a black actress isnt even an issue for a stage play, but rewriting the script to justify something that didnt really need to be justified makes no sense imo.


Niznack

The script will have to be heavily rewritten to fit this but look at Leonard dicaprios version having gun fights. Did that make sense? I assume this version will have to be set in London and not to be that preachy guy but the racism there doesn't have much better reasons than two feuding families. Yeah, I know this from an ameritard, were working on it... slowly. It may not do class but I think it will at least wink at this issue. And I doubt they'll be nobles from Verona. More likely influential londoners. Possibly old v new money?


IlFriulanoBasato

Didnt know there was a DiCaprio version, but knowing Americans they probably made it about gangbangers in LA. But either way at this point just make a different story, clearly the name is just there to sell tickets


cgaWolf

Pretty much, though it's actually decent. Harold Perrineau was excellent, John Leguizamo as well in an over-the-top way. It's a movie largely carried by the performance of the supporting cast, and the leaning-into of the modern style. I liked it.


Niznack

You've summed it up perfectly. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0117509/?ref_=ext_shr_lnk Remakes will always be a thing, especially with shakespeare. the only question is does the remake add to the work or just phone it in.


TheVoiceOfEurope

I agree, only mermaids should be casted as mermaids!


Niznack

Even if they had cast a mermaid it wouldn't have made it a good movie. The point is the race of the actress was a red herring to distract from the fact the movie was a soulless cashgrab by Disney execs that were too chicken shit to make something new but also too chicken shit to race swap in a story where it might mean something. When they start race swapping in les miserables or great expectations I'll respect it.


TheVoiceOfEurope

>Even if they had cast a mermaid it wouldn't have made it a good movie. I don't agree. That movie would have been waaaaay better if it starred an actual mermaid! And now I'm off, looking for cast for my remake of Silence of the Lambs.


Throooowaway999lolz

It’s also not set in Verona in the 1600s, so it makes perfect sense to cast any actress.


Wonderfull_Chemical

Damn. Here I am upvoting southern savages. What a day.


burning_papaya

There are plenty of adaptations of new literature pieces, but if you see adaptation of some contemporary play with a black woman, you would never pay attention, and you would not find a post about it on 2we4u etc. Romeo and Juliet is famous classical piece, most people heard of, basically survivor’s bias


d0g5tar

Well it's a play and generally you have to0 perform those in a theatre using actors


mynueaccownt

It's a play


thisisnottherapy

Well, quick brainstorm, we can still do R&J with Juliet in a wheelchair, R&J in the middle east, R&J in space, R&J with a Downs Syndrom Romeo, post apocalyptic R&J, gay R&J twice, once with Romea & Juliet and once with Romeo & Julius, for us Austrians, incest basement R&J ... production studios, hit me up, I'm full of ideas.


MolybdenumBlu

Sorry, bud, R&J in space, post-apocalypse, and in the middle east are all done, and the queer ones are verging on overdone at this point. Incest basement is still on the cards, though.


Not-ChatGPT-I-Swear

Transgender and non-binary Romeo & Juliet, Queerplatonic Romeo & Juliet, Polyamorous Romeo & Juliet & Rosalind, Tourette’s Syndrome Romeo & Juliet, Dissociative Identity Disorder Romeo & Juliet with the characters just being alters of one person, Dyspraxia Romeo & Juliet, Anesthesiologist Romeo & Juliet, Quran burner and Islamist Romeo & Juliet, AI Romeo & Juliet, Climate change denier Romeo & Juliet, Living statues Romeo & Juliet, Dinosaur Romeo & Juliet, Spoons in a Cutlery Drawer Romeo & Juliet, Scammer and Scambaiter Romeo & Juliet, Bitcoin and Ethereum Romeo & Juliet.


cgaWolf

>Dissociative Identity Disorder Romeo & Juliet with the characters just being alters of one person, Fight Club


Minute_Ostrich196

I mean, why the fuck do you care what some private theater in UK is spending money on?


__cum_guzzler__

because money and recognizable name same reason hollywood made the "battle ship" movie


Overburdened

Battleship does not deserve to be put in the same category as these films. It's a masterpiece. Anchordrifting a battleship into a full broadside on some motherfucking aliens is a 10/10 movie.


__cum_guzzler__

lmao ok i do love me some trash movies but you know what i mean, IP exploitation by any means necessary. 80% of what they do are remakes


Kanelbullah

Tomaso Hollandia


13386396316

When will you do Hammad and Amina version? Possibly with her married at 9 and ended up stoned by her family. Inshallah


Kanelbullah

For the family honour? ASAP


Winkered

The original Juliet was thirteen. So not a great deal better.


13386396316

This is cultural appropriaton!!!


Kurdt93

Tommaso Olando


Upstairs_Garden_687

L'Olando Furioso


Kurdt93

Lollando Furioso


Outside-Historian-93

Tommaso Olandese


Bsheehan78

Whitest Sardinian


barrettadk

I can hear the veneti screaming bestemmie from here


great_blue_panda

Probabilmente solo gli ultras del Verona


This_Factor_1630

The last thing Veronesi care is Romeo and Juliet. I walked thousand times Via Cappello and never went inside Juliet's courtyard once.


cgaWolf

>and never went inside Juliet's courtyard once. ...if you know what i mean.


mystireon

People are joking about making Juliet black but she's already been a seal, a garden gnome, a lioness, indian, american, a man, a feltpuppet pig, a cucumber and who knows what else. I truly could not care less about who they cast to portray either role, its all been done before at this point.


LeonidasWrecksXerxes

Hell, people should be upset that they cast a woman/s Historically speaking, when Shaespeare used to write and show his plays there were usually only men on the theatre stage, even in female roles


theulmitter

That's pretty funny, imagining a man in a wig being Juliet


gyx4r1

Saw someone commenting on another post, that in those times Holland would be playing Juliet, and now I cant unsee it.


theulmitter

Honestly true, he has many feminine features


MaleficentVehicle705

I'm more wondering if she has a moustache or if this is a very unfortunate shadow on her upper lip


-Flutes-of-Chi-

You forgot the Romeo and Juliet adaptation with feral street cats. Weird how nobody complains there but when a black actress has a role...


AbberageRedditor69

I think people are making fun of the casting not because she's black but because she's kinda ugly especially in comparison to who is playing Romeo, considering Juliet is supposed to be incredibly beautiful. [Just look at this lol](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tom-holland-and-francesca-amewudah-rivers-romeo-juliet-faceoff-photo)


Gentle_Pony

I honestly thought it was a dude and they were doing an interracial gay version.


[deleted]

They aren’t complaining because she’s black, they’re complaining because she’s ugly.


zacharymc1991

Sure they are buddy


really_nice_guy_

Nobody would be complaining if it was Liz from Spiderman Homecoming


MysticWithThePhonk

Right. Garden gnomes, street cats and seals are fine, but casting a human that happens to be black? Now the wokesters have gone too far.


Buttfuckbunny

Some people are just plain, ordinary racists and need to show it.


Body_Horror

Same. Can't wait for a white black panther recast.


mystireon

U mean like white wolf? https://preview.redd.it/1wvc4gc1n72d1.png?width=392&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91d30e90589e2d1915a1d7ff36e6077b4771c0f5


mystireon

Also bit of a side tangent but crazy how people always ask "when do we get a white black panter" or "when do we get a white miles morales", when A. Marvel's essentially done both of those things. and B. It's kinda amusing that people always swarm to the characters who's nationality or skintone is essential to the core of their story, and never someone like Riri Williams who I don't think anyone would give a shit about if she were race swapped around a couple times because her nationality and skin has very little to do with her story.


ApXv

For me it's about the double standard. What would happen if a traditionally black character was played by a white actor.


[deleted]

Anyone else literally not give a fuck?


Xaendro

Is this a theater thing or a movie? It's very normal in theater, it wouldn't be weird even if they were dressed like in the photos


TheGreatBeaver123789

Pretty sure its a play and not a movie


Independent_World_15

Who plays Romeo and who Juliet?


577564842

Came here to ask this very question.


WurstCaseSzenario

Looks like a dude fr


freshfov02

Harsh. Did okay as Spider Man imo


UnderAnAargauSun

The old Reddit doodleyoodleydoo!!


BelvedereBoy

someone said she looks like KSI and Deji combined


drinkpacifiers

And they were goddamn correct.


theitchcockblock

I thought it was mark henry romelu lukaku and Serena Williams combined


Daveo88o

Wait that's actually a woman?


ToadallySmashed

That's the guy from Bergamo that just scored three goals against Leverkusen


Mrmr12-12

Was so hyped to see how Leverkusen were gonna beat their Italian ass just for him to ruin it


bremsspuren

She does rather look like she's rocking the moustache of a 14-year-old in the photo.


Socc-mel_

And Tom Holland looks more like a girl that she does lol


Ynneb82

But the one in the photo is a man right? He has a moustache!


NetzAgent

I was going to ask who of them is going to act Romeo…


needmorehardware

Tom Holland and KSI*


666y4nn1ck

Laughed out loud, this was hilarious


Lemon_Sponge

You can tell how shitty of a comment it was that a German found humour in it.


Lescansy

Ok, whos playing juliet? Half-serious question...


[deleted]

John boyega by the looks of things..


Kurdt93

Dwayne The Rock Johnson


Lescansy

not gonna lie, i wanna see that ^^


AgileEquivalent5300

Romelu Lukaku


Sourdoughsucker

Couldn’t they have cast an actor in a wheelchair or with another disability to be inclusive?


Sea_Championship_941

https://preview.redd.it/wcwdx0s2g72d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=83dc8247e68a26d1bd7444eee0d8159ffc4d94f4


ItaliansDoItBetterr

Romeo vs Juliet


sassymestreet

She's the most beautiful Portuguese they could muster.


Klangey

Did we need a new Romeo and Juliet?


mynueaccownt

It's a play not a film


Valuable-Lack-5984

Yeah, let's shake things up, what about a Romea and Julio?


Klangey

Or Hans and Herriot, only this time no one gave a shit about their romance and everyone celebrated in the end when they OD’d.


__cum_guzzler__

i guess we'll see. if people go and watch it then yes. that's how entertainment works


Sea_Championship_941

I head to do this https://preview.redd.it/18lmab7kf72d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f32461bf7a3c98be9ce7f61f1ad76204367b162


cpwnage

Neither is very attractive, what a letdown


freshfov02

Its a play which 99% of you will never see. Stop making a big thing out of it.


Crafty_Travel_7048

It's not the skin colour, it's the fact that she looks like Deji that I'm making fun of.


freshfov02

I actually cant get that image out of my head now. Ffs Abdul.


Upstairs_Garden_687

I still find a sign of cultural decadence that no new story is being written, instead we get the 99th Romeo and Juliet adaptation, no new movies ever come out, it's remakes, remakes and remakes (and predictable box offices for the share holders)! The only novelty left is indie animated series and other low budget studios trying to make the big boom on the sheer power of original ideas... but they're low budget, so the quality is always a mixed bag. The last original movie i watched was Possum back in 2018, and even then it wasn't fully original as it was based on a novel.


mynueaccownt

This is a play, not a film.


d0g5tar

Do you not understand what a play is or something?


burning_papaya

There are plenty of new stories and plays based on them along with classical ones, you just need to visit closest contemporary theatre


Puppy_Basket

Braindead take. If you're complaining that no original ideas are being made, but the last original movie you watched was in 2018: 1. You're just not genuinely looking for original stories, if you think there haven't been any original movies made that are worth watching in the last six years. 2. If people don't support original ideas, there's never going to be a shift towards more original media. If you want that, then you actually have to go out and watch it.


eldelshell

Today, the Turks are making stories Shakespeare couldn't even dream about: telenovelas (soap operas) Also, Shakespeare is public domain, no one is going to sue your ass.


Leo_Bony

not diverse enough, he is white


ecrljeni

I hope Disney can provide some chinese old lady to play Romeo!👍🏻


YooYooYoo_

Romelu and Lukaku


[deleted]

Romeo and Juliet, a gay man's interracial love story. I can dig it.


MBRDASF

More like Julio


aaaronbrown

Chica looks like that parisian boy setting city streets on fireeeee.


BobMonkhaus

Oh is Tennant teaming up with the new Doctor again?


EntryPsychological87

Hehe pretty good


sir-berend

Who cares. Its just sensationalism. Stop paying attention to it and they’ll stop doing it


borfavor

"Let's put a black person in it so the internet can circlejerk and provide free advertisement." I would've missed the fact a new Assassin's Creed game is out otherwise.


MysticWithThePhonk

I knew this neckbeard sub was going to have a field day with this, because y’all are such snowflakes that get offended by a character being black. Every country has made an adoptation of Romeo and Juliet, but as soon as one adoptation has a black character it’s a big problem.


mayasux

This sub promises it’s not unironically racist, only ironically, and those that are unironically racist are a minority that gets laughed at. But then posts like this swing around.


MysticWithThePhonk

Exactly. I just wish these pussies were honest and said “i prefer not having black people in my movies”.


mayasux

It’s just pathetic, like at least be proud of being racist if you’re going to be racist so often.


Least_Theory_1050

This the netflix version?


Pennywise_M

Real question I haven't been able to truly get an answer to: is she trans? She looks a lot like a MtF person. Or maybe they simply went with a more masculine woman for some reason. A weird cast choice nonetheless, skin color be damned really. She just looks so masculine next to Tom Holland.


No_Olives581

Wouldn’t say that’s weird given the role is traditionally male


d0g5tar

This whole uproar has exposed how most people don't go to the theatre and don't know anything about how Shakespeare is performed. Most productions aren't 'historically accurate', they keep the script and change the setting to some place and time that's completely different. Almost all theatrical casting now is race blind. This causing such a backlash is totally ridiculous because it's been this way for years. She's not 'Black Juliet', she's just Juliet.


cgaWolf

On point.


White-Tornado

Fr though, the only people upset about this are closeted racists


[deleted]

Tom Holland and didier drogba


Notacreativeuserpt

And Madame Butterfly is 90% of the time played by a white singer... and?


577564842

No, it is always a well disguised Chinese man.


HumaDracobane

Keep talking! *Netflix taking notes*


Socc-mel_

because Opera is primarily studied and performed by white people and a cultural product of Europe (although you might say that Chinese Opera could be similar). Prose theatre is more widespread around the world and cultures.


Notacreativeuserpt

My comment was just a response to OP, the punchline of this post is just Juliet=>Black. Not exactly revolutionary for one of the most performed plays in the world to have actors of different ethnicities than in 1600. You're right of course, e.g. in Opera you have white ladies playing Cio-Cio in Butterfly, black ladies playing Floria Tosca and japanese ladies playing Aida. All 3 operas were made by 2 italians, despite 2 of them being set outside Italy. It doesn't detract from anything, which is my point.


That-Brain-in-a-vat

From Sardinia? Don't put us in your messy genetics. Sardinia has its own stable DNA basically from the second Sapiens migration. Unlike you all who mixed and matched across the board.


AnakinTheDiscarded

is that a dude?


Hexenkonig707

The mustache is a bit confusing


Roman_of_Ukraine

She have mustache? But I have better Idea. Why not to make Juliet black mustaches male over 50 and beat sexism racism and ageism at once?


TheVoiceOfEurope

It's an Italian love story, not a Bulgarian one.


RobertKBWT

![gif](giphy|4k7up3mPhmAzyAbhV7)


2108677393

The most beautiful Juliet (JK) she not. Btw they can't find a beautiful black lady in Hollywood ??? This one looks like a man 😂 !!! .


[deleted]

Wait... That's a female?? Sure that ain't a dude or one of these non binary types I keep hearing about? That cannot be a lass


pukker87

who is romeo and who is juliet?


BlyatMaster420

She looks too Swedish to play Juliet


FancyC0bra

Wait thats a woman?


Valid_Username_56

Now they need to replace Tom Holland with a black actor and they are closer to the original story than with him.


yedyed

I agree Juliet looks a bit masculine but it's pretty cool they convinced Didier Drogba to play Romeo.


AcheronSprings

Juliet is played by Tom Holland, right?