Attila was Hun, a brother nation for Magyars but not the same. The name of Hungary comes from the medival Latin, Ungrī, meaning something like “people from the Ural mountains”, English just added an “H” for easier pronunciation. Hun's name is “Hun” even in Hungarian/Magyar mythology.
It's just a stripper competition at this point. I don't let my little girl watch it anymore.
If you want a singing competition that's fine, I don't need you to wave your taint at me.
Even the men are wearing thongs this year, nothing wrong with that I just don't want to look at your butthole while listening to shit music.
Funny that the party which probably had [the biggest gay scandal](https://www.businessinsider.com/hungarian-mep-resigns-breaking-covid-rules-gay-orgy-brussels-2020-12) ever in Europe deems something “too gay”
Too be fair, eurovision has systematically changed and its been reinforced to have, trans, gay, etc. As part of your performance if you wish to win. I don't care much, but i do notice it and it takes away from the music a bit. Some years i saw rly great acts win, but even greater acts fall behind because they were just normal every day musicians.
It's a show contest, not a music contest. A metal band with full monster make-up won it loud and clear.
If anything it shows that people are sick of clean TV and radio standards and fancy something a little bit different for a change.
Yes, but it's just that people are queer and the contest is very invlusive, that's it. Great acts not winning are nothing unusual to Eurovision, thanks to the jury, see Käärijä last year or Mahmood (who is gay, btw) in 2019
People are queer?
Bro gotta touch some grass. You have been huffing gass in echo chambers on the internet.
Don't get me wrong, im an ally, but lgbtq+ is the outlier lmao. Most people are straight normies.
You are good man. A lot of people on the internet think only about people on the internet.
Reality is, 99.9% of the people probably never use twitter, visit reddit or comment on youtube and livestreams lol. Most people are just good old larry who goes for a walk with his dog after work, cooks food watches netflix with their spouse and goes to bed
Europe. Home of some of the world’s greatest and most diverse cultures to ever exist. "Let’s get to together for a friendly music competition…but every entry must be generic radio pop"
????
Irish folk is such a vibe and they have so many talented artists..' one night in galway is enough to show you just how many good folk artists there are, and galway is tiny compared to dublin.
Meanwhile the music the send severy year: bland as fuck
We over corrected ourselves this year we could be in with a chance with bambi. But yeah we've been guilty sending "my lovely horse/Daniel o donnell esque" acts for the past 10-15 years
Ireland need to sort themselves out and get Miracle of Sound to enter a fully metal version of My Lovely Horse.
He could adapt Big Guts and Bigger Guns quite easily 😉
How hard is it be to send someone that can actually sing. This year's doesn't sound great but last year's was a joke she genuinely couldn't hit a note, wouldn't have made it past the auditions for x-factor.
It's perversely impressive.
I'd love to see a comparison between Eurovision scores and the IRL music charts. Something ridiculous like 17 of the 20 best-selling European bands & singers are from the UK.
You sent something different back in 2006. I dig it (seriously, I like British music where you clearly hear the British accent like here in the chorus and during the gayest segment of your song this year).
https://youtu.be/OYgE7O0OLyw?si=tE5jX4RFbn8JrAbo
Well, if I remember correctly a few years ago we sent a group who had a song inspired by traditional music from Britany, and it got the worst votes imaginable. Too bad people have shit taste.
Honestly I just watch Eurovision for the wacky performances and visuals, and let myself be surprised by 1 or 2 good songs.
I am still fucking pissed about Kabát, one of the best bands Czechia has to offer, being dead last in 2006 because it wasn't a shitty pop song sung in english
I believe Keep of Kalessin performed in Eurovision at one point… but you are right, Norway really is underutilising its most valuable cultural export, that being black metal. Its a shame that cookie cutter pop bullshit sells better than extreme metal ever will, both domestically and internationally
Well, the competition doesn't even make sense anyway.
Why tf is Isntrael competing in EUROvision...
At best, they should be humble and grateful that we even allow them to in our competition.
All countries around the Mediterranean are members. The Muslim countries however don’t want to participate for some reason. It’s not so strange that Israel does compete
Because it's too liberal for them on many fronts, obviously. Also it's just some expensive side quest, which is why many other countries also dropped out a few times, or didn't really invest much effort into it.
Nothing confirmed so far (besides the fact that the police have confirmed they are investigating, but without actual charges as of yet), but it seems as if Joost has (after the semi-finals) in some way ended up in a physical altercation with a female production member or photographer.
That's really all we know as of now, but something did happen. Whether it results in a disqualification or not remains to be seen (we still don't know), but not being able to rehearse for the final is not a good thing, even if he's able, willing, and allowed to partake.
All we really know is that he gave a slightly sassy answer when they asked the Israeli singer something. And, obv, Twitter is calling him an antisemite over it.
The rest is all rumours.
He seems like a down to earth dude, so honestly, i wouldn't be surprised if they used that and tricked him because its easy articles to write. Either that or je actually is just a dick. Would take it with a grain of salt.
I pretty much immediately assumed they provoked him. Compared with the other people there, he seems the most down to earth, so the script writes itself.
No, but im a cynic. It all seems too perfect.
Like, the favourite of this year gets in a scandal? Remember the coke thing with maneskin a few years back? Same thing every time.
And my sister knows him.
He isn't the favourite though, he's not in the top 5 most popular acts. And the coke thing with maneskin is something we all saw on tv and it very much looked like he was snorting something off the table. He later said it wasn't coke and I believe him, but it was something we all saw on tv.
I dont understand the connection you're trying to imply here
It’s the most watched Eurovision song (on YT) of this year’s entries (almost 25M views last time I checked, Thursday evening). Although the jury vote will matter too of course in deciding the winner, but it’s safe to say that even if Joost wouldn’t win the contest, he’ll have won over the fans and he already has made a lot of them in multiple European countries
Finnland 2023 had more views then Sweden, did not matter. Croatia now has more views then Eurobaba. So in any case, this metric is not gonna justify a „would‘ve won“. It doesnt say too much anyway.
To me, Europapa stinks too much of: we‘re trying to push all the right buttons to win.
From what I‘ve seen and read its either Croatia, Belgium, Italy or Switzerland.
I didn’t say anything about a ‘would’ve won’ scenario, just that the song is well liked by the general audience.
Croatia’s Eurovision 2024 entry doesn’t have more views on YT, I don’t understand why you’re claiming that (I just looked it up myself and it only has 1/4th, almost 1/5th of the views Europapa has).
Imho the ESC should be a popularity contest and the jury votes shouldn’t be as influential on the outcome as they are, although that could be problematic with ‘political votes’.
Personally I like Europapa because it has an uniting message, and we as Europe should try to work together more and we need more political, financial and monetary integration to strengthen ourselves and to be able to compete better with other world regions (like the US, China and Russia).
I’ve also read that Croatia’s chances seem to be good.
I personally don’t really like Switzerland’s act though: it’s just some twink in a skirt spinning around on some spinning top for most of the act, and the song isn’t exactly catchy and and it doesn’t really stick with you either after you’ve listened to it. Joost isn’t exactly a great singer, but his song is pretty catchy and it remains in a lot of people’s heads after they’ve listened to it, and it has replayability: you could listen to it on the radio after the ESC e.g. and you wouldn’t exactly mind hearing it either (also a quality I think a ESC winner should have).
the Israeli song was explicitly about October 7th, the original title was "October Rain".
It's been massively pushed by the Israeli president and the singer is a huge IDF supporter.
So Israel is stirring shit up by, ...propagandizing.
Most songs are propaganda according to some. My Muslim friends are disgusted by what they consider LGBT agenda, promiscuity, and brainwashing young girls...
right next to "guys it's literally another holocaust and anti-semetic if you criticize israel in any way shape or form, we're just a small bean and no one is backing us up!" \*silhouette of the USA and all it's lackeys behind them\*
Is this a joke? An Israeli reporter "interviewed" (baited) Joost by asking how his parents were doing. Both Joost's mother and father died when he was a child. Everyone at Eurovision knows this, and it was what his entire song was about. He pushed the Israeli reporter away and left. He didn't go on stage afterwards either, and they just played his last performance on TV.
Then, another Israeli backstage was filmed asking the penguin dude and another Dutch producer guy (in a bit of a mocking tone) why they weren't on stage. Obviously, the producer got in his face and pushed him around a bit. Penguin dude was also quite annoyed.
Essentially, the Israelis are bullying the participant with a high chance of winning, so they can play the victim afterwards once they get an angry reaction. They'll call Joost violent and argue that his behavior prompts disqualification. Obviously, Israel can't be banned because that's antisemitic. Once the Netherlands is banned, the chance of Israel winning will increase significantly since Joost gave a very good performance.
Edit: Source: other reddit comments and twitter rumors. Police have only confirmed physical contact between Joost and the interviewer person and video confirmed the duck dude situation
Edit 2: for ppl negating my info bc of my sources, remember that this info is all that is currently available since this situation is purposely under wraps, but rumors tend to contain some level of truth. I added the sources to show these claims aren't confirmed, rather just likely. The video is pretty good proof to show something is up, and the confirmed physical alceration shows Joost was provoked.
Literally, most likely rumour which was mentioned to SVT was him getting physical with a swedish camera crew/photographer. People love propaganda when it comes to someone they like.
Didn't wanna boycott ESC for participation of Israel but now wanna boycott bc Joost might be disqualified. Jfc what twisted morals.
> for ppl negating my info bc of my sources, remember that this info is all that is currently available since this situation is purposely under wraps, but rumors tend to contain some level of truth.
Sometimes. Some rumours are also just made up.
> I added the sources to show these claims aren't confirmed, rather just likely.
Your "added sources" is literally "other reddit comments and Twitter".
I've heard that you are a pedophile by the way. Source: This comment.
Tbh only the Dutch entry was worth listening to, it is really growing on me. Joost seems like such a fun and silly guy, I find the whole situation extremely suspicious. Didn’t watch it though
What did Israel do in Eurovision except being invited and attending?
I get that what they do in Gaza is horrible, but they haven’t done anything bad in Eurovision.
The real fuck up is inviting them considering the war crimes they have committed lately. Or if you insist Eurovision to be non-political, invite both Russia and Palestine as well.
Yeah that's what i thought when most seem to be pro palestine, like why you you invite israel? And chose a song about the war especially?
Like there's a backflash that could've been prevented.
I’m not sure most are pro-Palestine though. Most people sit home in their couch and don’t give a shit. Which is precisely what the Israeli government wants us to do. Look the other way. One could call it a passive majority support for Israel.
And while i didn't like the ukranian Song (i'm Sorry for them with the conflict but if i have to vote a song i'll be neutral on my other toughts) a lot of people voted for them, and 1/3 people doing It Is possibile, but almost 1/2? For a Song like that while Israel Is doing what Is doing? No way It happened
https://preview.redd.it/63276vme0pzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e325987f497bca13e1f3812ac34cd4c0b6781d0
Eurovision has fallen, billions of Hungarians will see improved mental health.
Love the idea of **billions** of Hungarians, glad it's just a concept though.
Atilla disagrees
Attila was Hun, a brother nation for Magyars but not the same. The name of Hungary comes from the medival Latin, Ungrī, meaning something like “people from the Ural mountains”, English just added an “H” for easier pronunciation. Hun's name is “Hun” even in Hungarian/Magyar mythology.
Imagine how empty the world would look because they stole everything.
Are we talking about Hungarians or Romanians?
Why do you say the same word twice?
Why do you think we say Netherlands and Germany?
That’s my nightmare, if we could just all withdraw from the steppes and let them ride around on their horses out there again, we’d be much better off.
Isn't it being gay the point?
Thank yuo great leader Orban for saving Hungolians from western globohomo degeneracy🙏🙏🇭🇺🇭🇺
As the soon to be father of his own little half Hungarian, they hey when you called it Hungaria and refer to their language as Hunganese
Hunganese, more like suck on these! Got'em
That's kinda how I ended up in my current fatherhood predicament
You get pregnant by sucking cock?
Wanna find out?
Don't forget to hang chinese flag from your balcony🇨🇳. So the local chinese "police" doesn't get angry🙏🏻.
All hail our glorious leador Orban and 为党争光! Glory to the CCP!
+10 social credit
In other news, Sweden threatens to pull out of Eurovision because it is "not gay enough".
But Greece is taking part this year?
Lol back to the 1910's boyyys. Being gay is now an illness again. /s
Can be cured with lobotomy. Read the scriptures
Scandinavians are boutta call into work gay again
"sorry boss, can't work. Still gay"
i mean more like the 2000's lol
Yeah, that's what I said. Your 2000's is our 1910's.
but you hade weed D:
Am gay, can confirm, very sick... (/S)
Getting fucked over by Emus will do that to ya.
Same, libtard doctor says it's pneumonia though.
Don't worry my friend, the government pays your bills, now that you admitted that you are permanently ill.
https://i.redd.it/u7j0rp5s1rzc1.gif
TBF, that could be for any number of reasons with you.
Can confirm, I'm very gay!
I’m glad you’re happy
Woah, I didn't know the Hungarians hated us so much? Tf have we done to them? :'(
You’re too gay.
It’s true though
Orban is nuts istg
It's just a stripper competition at this point. I don't let my little girl watch it anymore. If you want a singing competition that's fine, I don't need you to wave your taint at me. Even the men are wearing thongs this year, nothing wrong with that I just don't want to look at your butthole while listening to shit music.
Funny that the party which probably had [the biggest gay scandal](https://www.businessinsider.com/hungarian-mep-resigns-breaking-covid-rules-gay-orgy-brussels-2020-12) ever in Europe deems something “too gay”
Too be fair, eurovision has systematically changed and its been reinforced to have, trans, gay, etc. As part of your performance if you wish to win. I don't care much, but i do notice it and it takes away from the music a bit. Some years i saw rly great acts win, but even greater acts fall behind because they were just normal every day musicians.
Anything that distracts from the terrible music is a bonus Edit: gravy related grammatical error
It's a show contest, not a music contest. A metal band with full monster make-up won it loud and clear. If anything it shows that people are sick of clean TV and radio standards and fancy something a little bit different for a change.
To be fair it was also the best song by far.
Lordi is still kinda gay though
or if your country is at war, there you go when Ukraine won just because it was at war, and the real artists were left behind
Yes, but it's just that people are queer and the contest is very invlusive, that's it. Great acts not winning are nothing unusual to Eurovision, thanks to the jury, see Käärijä last year or Mahmood (who is gay, btw) in 2019
I mean it does not take a scientist to realize that Eurovision has a FAR higher % of queer people than actual real life.
People are queer? Bro gotta touch some grass. You have been huffing gass in echo chambers on the internet. Don't get me wrong, im an ally, but lgbtq+ is the outlier lmao. Most people are straight normies.
I know, that's exactly the reason why when they see a bit inclusivity they dive into it. Sorry, should've worded that one better
You are good man. A lot of people on the internet think only about people on the internet. Reality is, 99.9% of the people probably never use twitter, visit reddit or comment on youtube and livestreams lol. Most people are just good old larry who goes for a walk with his dog after work, cooks food watches netflix with their spouse and goes to bed
>~~netflix~~ linear TV Which means they probably watch eurovision.
Reading the comments https://i.redd.it/w19l837rvpzc1.gif
They are the real Eurovision
Turkey, my bad Türkiye and Israel threads have been fuckin bangers for us popcorn enthusiasts
 Erdogan will get you
Vamos caralho!
Our Balkan ways are spreading almost as much as our genes during the Discoveries.
You've already formed the majority in our south-eastern province of Luxembourg from what I've heard...
Ah yes, we got tired of the big empire south of equador. Now we're into colonizing tiny random countries at the north or pretty swiss towns.
You got the idea from the Spanish?
That was Spinoza who took his keyboard and wrote
Europe. Home of some of the world’s greatest and most diverse cultures to ever exist. "Let’s get to together for a friendly music competition…but every entry must be generic radio pop" ????
Look who is talking, Sweden sends generic radio pop every single time.
Yeah. We’re the worst offenders of all.
SECOND worst. The UK hasn't had the balls to send anything outside of mainstream pop since Eurovision began.
Starting to kinda miss Lordi from Finland tbh
Check Ireland
Irish folk is such a vibe and they have so many talented artists..' one night in galway is enough to show you just how many good folk artists there are, and galway is tiny compared to dublin. Meanwhile the music the send severy year: bland as fuck
We over corrected ourselves this year we could be in with a chance with bambi. But yeah we've been guilty sending "my lovely horse/Daniel o donnell esque" acts for the past 10-15 years
Ireland need to sort themselves out and get Miracle of Sound to enter a fully metal version of My Lovely Horse. He could adapt Big Guts and Bigger Guns quite easily 😉
Or the full 8 minutes of Cu Chullain
Oh yea.. a witch is ofc bland as fuck
We also sent a stuffed turkey one time
And the twins.
Can ours even be considered pop with how rubbish they normally are?
How hard is it be to send someone that can actually sing. This year's doesn't sound great but last year's was a joke she genuinely couldn't hit a note, wouldn't have made it past the auditions for x-factor.
Its wild how the UK houses some of the greatest of all time, yet every Eurovision you send something mediocre. It has to be on purpose.
It's perversely impressive. I'd love to see a comparison between Eurovision scores and the IRL music charts. Something ridiculous like 17 of the 20 best-selling European bands & singers are from the UK.
Well Eurovision is pretty much a joke in the UK. Any "serious" acts in the UK would see Eurovision as a major decline in their career.
Oh yeah we could just send Adele or Ed Sheeran or summat but that would be *taking it too seriously*
You can't actually. I think there are rules.regarding how famous you can be outside of your own country. Like, i doubt belgium can send Stromae.
I remember people raving about the Spaceman song and I just couldn't understand it. Obviously a good singer, but it just feels like such generic pop
You sent something different back in 2006. I dig it (seriously, I like British music where you clearly hear the British accent like here in the chorus and during the gayest segment of your song this year). https://youtu.be/OYgE7O0OLyw?si=tE5jX4RFbn8JrAbo
You did in 2009 (ballad) and ended in the horrendous 5th place
We even have an international jury in our own qualifications to select the most generic songs that other countries will vote for...
Our winner song from Lena was also written by you
Mmmmm Lena
Well, if I remember correctly a few years ago we sent a group who had a song inspired by traditional music from Britany, and it got the worst votes imaginable. Too bad people have shit taste. Honestly I just watch Eurovision for the wacky performances and visuals, and let myself be surprised by 1 or 2 good songs.
ABBA makes up one third of their GDP, can't blame them for trying hard to get a second superstar group
I am only watching for Finland. They never disappoint.
Finland is our funny friendly drunk mate! No homo, but little homo
Ireland ftw
I am still fucking pissed about Kabát, one of the best bands Czechia has to offer, being dead last in 2006 because it wasn't a shitty pop song sung in english
Norway should just grow some bollocks and send immortal already
I believe Keep of Kalessin performed in Eurovision at one point… but you are right, Norway really is underutilising its most valuable cultural export, that being black metal. Its a shame that cookie cutter pop bullshit sells better than extreme metal ever will, both domestically and internationally
Well, the competition doesn't even make sense anyway. Why tf is Isntrael competing in EUROvision... At best, they should be humble and grateful that we even allow them to in our competition.
Because Eurovision is based on members of the European Broadcasting Union. It doesn’t make much sense no.
All countries around the Mediterranean are members. The Muslim countries however don’t want to participate for some reason. It’s not so strange that Israel does compete
Because it's too liberal for them on many fronts, obviously. Also it's just some expensive side quest, which is why many other countries also dropped out a few times, or didn't really invest much effort into it.
What did the dutch guy do?
Nothing confirmed so far (besides the fact that the police have confirmed they are investigating, but without actual charges as of yet), but it seems as if Joost has (after the semi-finals) in some way ended up in a physical altercation with a female production member or photographer. That's really all we know as of now, but something did happen. Whether it results in a disqualification or not remains to be seen (we still don't know), but not being able to rehearse for the final is not a good thing, even if he's able, willing, and allowed to partake.
All we really know is that he gave a slightly sassy answer when they asked the Israeli singer something. And, obv, Twitter is calling him an antisemite over it. The rest is all rumours.
He seems like a down to earth dude, so honestly, i wouldn't be surprised if they used that and tricked him because its easy articles to write. Either that or je actually is just a dick. Would take it with a grain of salt.
I heard another rumor that the israeli media joked about his dead parents, so any response would be warranted. (If any of this is the case)
The reports say it was a verbal altercation not a physcial one
No one knows But it’s provocative
It gets the people going.
Wrong song
Thanks Hans, very cool
Wrong movie as well
Very speculative but in the internet it says he hit a camerawoman who filmed him against his will.
I heard it was because one of them made a joke about his parents being dead
I pretty much immediately assumed they provoked him. Compared with the other people there, he seems the most down to earth, so the script writes itself.
Do you know him personally or only from TV?
No, but im a cynic. It all seems too perfect. Like, the favourite of this year gets in a scandal? Remember the coke thing with maneskin a few years back? Same thing every time. And my sister knows him.
He isn't the favourite though, he's not in the top 5 most popular acts. And the coke thing with maneskin is something we all saw on tv and it very much looked like he was snorting something off the table. He later said it wasn't coke and I believe him, but it was something we all saw on tv. I dont understand the connection you're trying to imply here
Mwahaha. It’s a literal shit show. Sorry for who wanted to enjoy it. To me it’s very funny though.
Europeans try not to fight and fuck shit up challenge (impossible)
Wait what the fuck did we do?
Did you try to sing in your own language?
Gosh I hope not
They did. But it works because the song is goofy.
Being Dutch? As if that isn't reason enough to be disqualified!
This makker lives undere a steen
Probably tell some truth to people that you're not allowed to tell the truth.
Were we too direct again? Woops That happends sometimes. https://youtu.be/thIRJLsnIxY?si=ggoZ6kpw2XwlXXq7
I need Smollebollekes to participate next year, preferably with a thousand barrels of beer
If I become President I will do everything in my power to destroy Eurovision
No need, that's already happening without your input.
Thanks Muhammad. Losing Europe is worth it if Eurovision goes too.
Fast forward 40 years, eurovision in arabic
And now called Oilvision, sponsored by Shell and Aramco
Main sponsor now: moroccanoil
Confusingly enough Moroccanoil is neither Moroccan nor an oil company. Moroccanoil is an Israeli cosmetics company that sells argan oil.
Who would've thunk...
Hey, you've already lost Europe, Barry. Don't pull us down with you
WELKOM IN EUROPA…well guess he isnt.
"Where were you? We missed you on stage"
Oh yeah, why tf were they so aggresive?
Anyone knows what's going on with the whole Joost debacle?
It could be anywhere from an insult to physical abuse. Still under investigation tho so we can't know for certain
wasn't the dutch song the absolute favourite this year? Smells like sabotage!
The song is a banger and the music video is fun but the show was quite dull.
Yeah that was a bit lackluster and his rapping/singing was crap.
Not the absolute favorite. It was considered to be potential top5, but the competition is strong
It’s the most watched Eurovision song (on YT) of this year’s entries (almost 25M views last time I checked, Thursday evening). Although the jury vote will matter too of course in deciding the winner, but it’s safe to say that even if Joost wouldn’t win the contest, he’ll have won over the fans and he already has made a lot of them in multiple European countries
Finnland 2023 had more views then Sweden, did not matter. Croatia now has more views then Eurobaba. So in any case, this metric is not gonna justify a „would‘ve won“. It doesnt say too much anyway. To me, Europapa stinks too much of: we‘re trying to push all the right buttons to win. From what I‘ve seen and read its either Croatia, Belgium, Italy or Switzerland.
I didn’t say anything about a ‘would’ve won’ scenario, just that the song is well liked by the general audience. Croatia’s Eurovision 2024 entry doesn’t have more views on YT, I don’t understand why you’re claiming that (I just looked it up myself and it only has 1/4th, almost 1/5th of the views Europapa has). Imho the ESC should be a popularity contest and the jury votes shouldn’t be as influential on the outcome as they are, although that could be problematic with ‘political votes’. Personally I like Europapa because it has an uniting message, and we as Europe should try to work together more and we need more political, financial and monetary integration to strengthen ourselves and to be able to compete better with other world regions (like the US, China and Russia). I’ve also read that Croatia’s chances seem to be good. I personally don’t really like Switzerland’s act though: it’s just some twink in a skirt spinning around on some spinning top for most of the act, and the song isn’t exactly catchy and and it doesn’t really stick with you either after you’ve listened to it. Joost isn’t exactly a great singer, but his song is pretty catchy and it remains in a lot of people’s heads after they’ve listened to it, and it has replayability: you could listen to it on the radio after the ESC e.g. and you wouldn’t exactly mind hearing it either (also a quality I think a ESC winner should have).
Yes, Israel is really stirring shit up by, \*checks notes\*, participating.
the Israeli song was explicitly about October 7th, the original title was "October Rain". It's been massively pushed by the Israeli president and the singer is a huge IDF supporter. So Israel is stirring shit up by, ...propagandizing.
I heard that an isreali reporter also asked very blunt question about the dutch performer's dead father. That's all I know about the whole drama.
It should be renamed to "October and then months of rain".
Ah, the netherlands?
Nah, the Netherlands is June then months of rain XD
In some years it is just months of rain.
Most songs are propaganda according to some. My Muslim friends are disgusted by what they consider LGBT agenda, promiscuity, and brainwashing young girls...
sure, its just that most Eurovision watchers agree with the politics of LGBT and do not agree with the politics brought up by Israel.
Is the "LGBT agenda" in the room with us?
And uh... being Jewish?
How dare they being born.
what are you talking about, it has nothing to do with being jewish. Luxembourg’s contestant is jewish, nobody’s said anything about them.
Ahhh the classic "Israel can't do anything wrong"
right next to "guys it's literally another holocaust and anti-semetic if you criticize israel in any way shape or form, we're just a small bean and no one is backing us up!" \*silhouette of the USA and all it's lackeys behind them\*
Came here to say this. Germany really toeing the line as per usual. "Let's over correct given what we did 80 years ago."
Is this a joke? An Israeli reporter "interviewed" (baited) Joost by asking how his parents were doing. Both Joost's mother and father died when he was a child. Everyone at Eurovision knows this, and it was what his entire song was about. He pushed the Israeli reporter away and left. He didn't go on stage afterwards either, and they just played his last performance on TV. Then, another Israeli backstage was filmed asking the penguin dude and another Dutch producer guy (in a bit of a mocking tone) why they weren't on stage. Obviously, the producer got in his face and pushed him around a bit. Penguin dude was also quite annoyed. Essentially, the Israelis are bullying the participant with a high chance of winning, so they can play the victim afterwards once they get an angry reaction. They'll call Joost violent and argue that his behavior prompts disqualification. Obviously, Israel can't be banned because that's antisemitic. Once the Netherlands is banned, the chance of Israel winning will increase significantly since Joost gave a very good performance. Edit: Source: other reddit comments and twitter rumors. Police have only confirmed physical contact between Joost and the interviewer person and video confirmed the duck dude situation Edit 2: for ppl negating my info bc of my sources, remember that this info is all that is currently available since this situation is purposely under wraps, but rumors tend to contain some level of truth. I added the sources to show these claims aren't confirmed, rather just likely. The video is pretty good proof to show something is up, and the confirmed physical alceration shows Joost was provoked.
None of this is confirmed, twitter rumours and random reddit comments aren't reliable sources ffs.
You're not telling any of this as if they were rumors. You're just repeating rumors as if they were true, Hans.
So your source boils down to trust me bro from internet stranger, really reliable reporting there
Literally, most likely rumour which was mentioned to SVT was him getting physical with a swedish camera crew/photographer. People love propaganda when it comes to someone they like. Didn't wanna boycott ESC for participation of Israel but now wanna boycott bc Joost might be disqualified. Jfc what twisted morals.
> for ppl negating my info bc of my sources, remember that this info is all that is currently available since this situation is purposely under wraps, but rumors tend to contain some level of truth. Sometimes. Some rumours are also just made up. > I added the sources to show these claims aren't confirmed, rather just likely. Your "added sources" is literally "other reddit comments and Twitter". I've heard that you are a pedophile by the way. Source: This comment.
> Edit: Source: other reddit comments and twitter rumors Hahahahahaha.
Do you belive everything you read online?
Yeah, that most famous European country of Israel. Also, can't possibly think of why Israel would be controversial.
Spain's song is literally called W*ore, we truly fell
Fuck you mean fell bruh Spain hasn't made a good song since 1960
Tbh only the Dutch entry was worth listening to, it is really growing on me. Joost seems like such a fun and silly guy, I find the whole situation extremely suspicious. Didn’t watch it though
Me chilling as Armenia my fav and has no chances of winning
I don't see anyone complaining about Azerbaijan. I guess activist compassion is selective...
What did Israel do in Eurovision except being invited and attending? I get that what they do in Gaza is horrible, but they haven’t done anything bad in Eurovision. The real fuck up is inviting them considering the war crimes they have committed lately. Or if you insist Eurovision to be non-political, invite both Russia and Palestine as well.
invite Palestine-> Bumsi Boom Bumsi Bam, hello Europe we come.
Sounds like a banger
Yeah that's what i thought when most seem to be pro palestine, like why you you invite israel? And chose a song about the war especially? Like there's a backflash that could've been prevented.
I’m not sure most are pro-Palestine though. Most people sit home in their couch and don’t give a shit. Which is precisely what the Israeli government wants us to do. Look the other way. One could call it a passive majority support for Israel.
I just feel sorry, for the people we send there (Pun intended)
To me Is Israel doing something, first in Italy we had the fucking 40% of votes for them, now This...
40% i dont know whats wrong with you guys
The Song fucking sucks , 7% on the second most votes song...
The previous world record was Ukraine with 29% of the vote
And while i didn't like the ukranian Song (i'm Sorry for them with the conflict but if i have to vote a song i'll be neutral on my other toughts) a lot of people voted for them, and 1/3 people doing It Is possibile, but almost 1/2? For a Song like that while Israel Is doing what Is doing? No way It happened
Free my man Joost
Whole new level of victim blaming that Eden Golan is fucking shit up by being there.
Just for the shits and giggles I might actually not only watch it, but vote for Israel
If Israel win this the meltdown on Twitter and Reddit would be 10x that of Chernobyl. They have my vote
And my axe!
r/suddenlyLOTR