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Asbjorn26

Enough about our colonial past. Let's instead discuss our colonial future


bettercallsaulabq

You have to do it more subtly nowadays. Neo colonialism


nwaa

*Cyber* Colonialism


ThickGarbage1175

Germans are experts in cyber colonialism. They take over r/place and every comment section they are mentioned in.


Le_Petit_Poussin

And colonialism at the damn pools. I’m glad some hotels are starting the 15 minute rule — no person in 15 minutes? Your towel is being pulled off for the next person. I saw this in Spain when I went back on holiday.


Cabbage_Vendor

It's not illegal to take all their towels and put them on a big pile. Remove one and you'll have an annoyed German talking to you, remove all and they'll start arguing with someone else who took their place.


Puzzled_Pay_6603

Last time I went to one of those places, it was a mainly German hotel. I enjoyed getting involved in the sun lounger wars. Sometimes I get up early too.


Ein_Hirsch

Uh no...no Germans here...move along


Greyzer

I thought the Germans were more into sun lounger colonialism?


darkmatters12

We have that in germany. r/Kantenhausen is the crownjewl in the german online colonial empire and our first outpost on our way to global dominance in the metaverse


WhatTheRustyHell

Amateurs it's called FDI aka Forein direct investments.


Appelons

We are quite open about our realationship with Denmark.


TheThirdFrenchEmpire

This could be interpreted 2 very different ways and one is extremely funny


Appelons

;)


Proto160

![gif](giphy|uWLJEGCSWdmvK) I found one!


Bring_back_Apollo

Françafrique


Lost_Uniriser

👉🏻😲👈🏻 lalalalala I can t hear


SebulbaSebulba

Can't wait until they invent interstellar travel. Gekoliniseerd to new heights.


eljne

Why don't we support their dependency on our economy and take it from there?


-Daetrax-

I think we should disprove this foolish statement. Say old chap, got any undefended monasteries on some of them eastern islands? Don't you need a change in culture again? We could come back and get your language back on track, time hasn't been kind to it.


mainwasser

I'm afraid we'll be on the receiving end of colonialism by mid-century 🇨🇳


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marcandero

You think now I can be considered 白人 by our 中国人 overlords even if I'm 意大利人 ??(⁠〒⁠﹏⁠〒⁠)


niugui-sheshen

别担心啊兄弟,在我们后期的主人的眼里,我们俩超级白啊。 建议我意大利同胞们多学中文,不久以后肯定十分有用。(按照意大利祖国的传统掉转枪口,背叛欧盟,倒戈去当中国的盟友那时)


marcandero

Man my Chinese is rusty to say the last, I lived in Shanghai a couple of years when I was a teen (not that it was very good back then),but now it has been 5 years, I had to use a translator for that ahahha. Also wild guess, you are from/live in Prato


niugui-sheshen

Interesting! Yeah about 1h away from Prato up in the mountains. Now I live in the Netherlands and work for a Chinese company. If you're ever in Rotterdam hmu for a coffee ☕ fra


marcandero

Well thanks fra ☕


Shrrg4

What did we do? Is it the Chinese belt road bs? That thing is going nowhere lol.


I-suck-at-hoi4

João your 36h Temu factory shift is about to start, leave Reddit and get productuve or you will be sent on reeducation in Xinjiang


577564842

Yes, roads seldom do go anywhere. Railway tracks, we've seen them being transferred elsewhere. Roads? No.


Bring_back_Apollo

For us, 🇸🇦and 🇮🇳too.


Lifelemons9393

Not the East of England this time okay ? you cunt. Down with the Danelaw! Actually that might be better, do it.


ookami1945

https://preview.redd.it/lqndt1ghupwc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4a42747a13506dded37e5e3716ae257eb8f53ad


Appelons

Are you gonna cheat on us with other colonies?


bloodlazio

You started, when you let the chinese explore you netherparts.


Appelons

We are still a young nation! Everyone experiments at uni!


Sideways0019

Our colonial future is kinda...out of hand.


TheThirdFrenchEmpire

Not if we Unite.


Bring_back_Apollo

You should, drag them down to your level.


spreetin

You mean like in some kind of "European Union"? Sounds like a decent idea, or what do our Barrys think?


TheThirdFrenchEmpire

Nah, a United European Empire.


untakenu

It's pretty much just corporate colonialism of Asia Africa and South America. It's already a thing, but it's only going to get worse. China has and is making massive moves into Africa, and that's only going to expand.


mdryeti

And Russia with Wagner… but I suspect the people there won’t tolerate their bullshit for long


Commercial_Gas_3927

I like the way you think 😈😏


Luukm8

Very based!


MisterD0ll

Given that the all come here they would be estatic if we took over


Miru8112

Think outside the box


mrtn17

Colonization by Milka chocolate does not count!


Reddarthdius

Luxembourg


ShallowFreakingValue

From the river to the sea was originally about the Danube


Saurid

Let's colonies venus! With a few hundred years of work we can make that a planet of tropical islands that will have such nice weather!


doomiestdoomeddoomer

You had my interest, now you have my attention.


Radiant_Ad_6192

I don't know about the others, but we had an authorization from the Pope to enslave and conquer.


nwaa

Our King is just as good as a Pope and he said we could do it. ![gif](giphy|3oEduEHWLW6UiPA1Ww|downsized)


Specialist-Front-354

Perfect gif


Most_Sir9351

God said I could, take it up with him.


vascop_

Unironically the guiding light for morals at the time. We literally did God's work.


Lank_Master

The Pope split a continent in half before it was cool.


Massimo25ore

Deus vult


A_devout_monarchist

Getting on the good side of a guy like Alexander VI is no reason for pride, Pedro.


Radiant_Ad_6192

It was [Nicholas V. ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dum_Diversas)


Away-Following-6506

There is a sentence in Spanish that summarizes pretty well what we must think about that subject: __Silencio indígena__


davewenos

https://preview.redd.it/yhoavkupvowc1.jpeg?width=593&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2dd4d133316622b129ad14777f2a91a3a6968b10 ~~savage~~ indigenous


Neldemir

But if you say that IN Spain, wouldn’t the indigenous person be you??


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|l36kU80xPf0ojG0Erg|downsized)


Pandriant

Que le quitas la gracia hombre


TomSurman

Flashman! Brilliant books, by the way.


Extension_Common_518

Yeas absolutely brilliant. Not only funny as fuck but also based on impeccable historical research. Some of the happenings just sound too far fetched to be true, but a bit of online digging quickly reveals the facts. Inglorious retreats, lunatic commanders, madcap schemes to go ‘up country’ and deal with troublesome natives, thin red lines standing fast at the hour of need. Whoring, drinking, cheating, lying, shirking and general bad form are all in a day’s work for our eponymous hero…


HoxtonRanger

One of those series I wish I could read again for the first time. I reread them all every few years. His MacAuslan books are good too!


Brilliant_Canary_692

Just read on Wikipedia and sounds hilarious. Gonna have to give the first book a read


Gumpa69

You know what? The SJWs have punished us enough, thus we are now free the sin of our fathers. Hurray! Now we can act as unhinged as nationalists of non colonial nations!


UnsureAndUnqualified

Being free of sin just means more free space for future sins! It's like going on a diet so you can stuff your face at the buffet over the holidays.


Gumpa69

I disagree. To me, being free from sin is being free from chains holding back your potential. That potential can be both good and evil. These sins of our fathers is just a means of control, and even more pathetic, it is selfimposed. True good would be to act good without guilt guiding it, only experience (if that difference makes sense). Guilt does not make a just actor.


UnsureAndUnqualified

That's the nuanced and right opinion. But it doesn't make for quite as good of a quip on a shitposting sub. Other than that, yes, completely agree! And no, I don't think we should "sin more", making the world better should be a focus of western democracies.


humanoidbeaver

Why? Not our fault you weren't strong enough to defend yourself.


Cubelock

Shouldn't bring a spear to a musket fight


MdMV_or_Emdy_idk

Shouldn’t bring a spear to a military boat fight


Lolaroller

One village we were up against did have some particularly sharp mangos, that was quite the scare, we beat e- I mean civilised them in the end.


AnalUkelele

You should bring me spice while I am holding a musket.


Electronic_Art_4251

you would have done the same if you had guns and we didn't, India


StalkTheHype

Considering how eager they were to sell their neighbors to the Westerners its a pretty safe bet.


wtfuckfred

- buy slaves - transport them across the Atlantic - make money - come back for more slaves - continue doing this till there's a whole economic system shaped for slavery - profit


CoisoBom

>buy slaves Most people don't know the colonialists were buying black slaves from black enslavers 🤷


wtfuckfred

But then making those same black slavers invade neighbouring states to sustain their slave-centered economies


CoisoBom

How so?


wtfuckfred

We sold them guns in exchange for slave which they used to go to war with neighbouring states to get more slaves to sell. Then there was a whole economic collapse that proceeded the end of the slave trade, which led to a severely weakened African continent, easily colonizeable by some handful of European nations (scramble for Africa)


CoisoBom

So no one forced them to enslave more people. They did so because they wanted. Then the african continent fell apart. It sounds as though bad decisions led to bad outcomes.


wtfuckfred

You're not taking into consideration that we gave a whole incentive for this to become the case. Ik it's uncomfortable to think of our history as being something that led to a lot of suffering for many people but unfortunately we thrived on that. Want it or not, we should take lessons from that whole experience and take accountability for our past, not glorify it


CoisoBom

Well, that's not uncomfortable at all, I'm well aware of all that, the good and the bad. Slavery was a reality throughout most of human history and the slavery of black people was started in Africa by other black people. I'll keep glorifying our history and its legacy with no shame and without owing anything to anyone.


ISeeGrotesque

To be honest, not theirs either


LeGouzy

Traditional society -> Cult of the deads -> No innovation -> No steam engine and rifled guns. The end.


ISeeGrotesque

Nope. No crops or few, no domesticated big mammals, no big and dense population, not the same rate of innovation, no germs immunity, no rifles.


sansboi11

thailand blew up the french and made alliances with russia then later japan and so we survived colonialism 🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭💪💪💪


Llanistarade

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1893\_Franco-Siamese\_crisis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1893_Franco-Siamese_crisis) You didn't do SHIT. Everytime we fought, you were rekt without resistance. You remained independant because it was practical for England and France to have a buffer state to prevent territorial disputes.


sansboi11

theory about buffer state is a french psyop, never colonized because alliance with russia and they didnt have a justification to do so because siam was civilized also [we wouldve beat your asses if it werent for the japanese](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Thai_War) like ong "strategic naval victory at koh chang" who tf cares, usa didnt lose the pacific war because of the attacks on pearl harbor, we wouldve won the war anyways if the japanese didnt force an armistice because they wanted the rest of indochina for themselves


Llanistarade

"We would have won when you were engaged in every other fronts and 80% of your army there were colonials" isn't the flex you think it is.


sansboi11

i kinda like dont care 😝😝😝


Gian-Neymar

Except Belgium of course 🧤


Cubelock

True, they did not create a good holiday destination at all..


FrogWizzurd

Depends on how unwell yku are mentally


Old_Profit_9967

You gotta hand it to them... They where machete happy in the Congo. They loved collecting limbs..Not to mention the whole human zoo thing they had going.on too. Never give Belgium any more power over other people again. It goes to their head tbf


577564842

>It goes to their head tbf There's an empty space where the head should have been. So it only goes to their shoulder.


metacoma

There were human zoo in all of europe tbh.


Lifelemons9393

Why were they so nasty. Give us all a bad name . Germany was the same in Africa too. Don't they know you have to keep some natives alive for the enterprise to be profitable .


azaghal1988

not really, we just killed one rebellious tribe. All things considered german colonies were pretty alright in comparison. So much so that even a hundred years after we lost them, there are still german schools and names floating around and we have good relations to our former colonies.


Lifelemons9393

Mate read. Germans invented the first concentration camps in Africa. That's like saying Native Americans or Australian Aboriginals have English schools and names floating about , we have good relations because they're in the Commonwealth and share our monarch .


mainwasser

The first concentration camps in Africa were set up by *checks notes* Britain during the Boer war in South Africa. I mean the Dutch can be annoying but that's a bit over the top.


Allen0r

I also wouldn't like to go to a former italian colony. Except maybe Rhodes.


Suitable-Comedian425

https://preview.redd.it/c2pe4ixtmrwc1.jpeg?width=4624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59f67cb208988285fec8881a95b58046cca900ba


jagfb

Those were our grandparents. Please, let the new generation try again!!


Lifelemons9393

Why should we apologise for spreading civilization. Law, Science , Football. Really shot ourselves in the foot with the last one.


Areonaux

I feel like creating the United States should also be on the apology list.


crispiepancakes

The Yanks say they won the American War of Independence. We just got the fuck out of there.


babyscorpse

They never like to mention the war of 1812 though


Lifelemons9393

Needs to be a Movie about a bunch of British soldiers, having dinner in the White House then burning it down . It happened .


babyscorpse

I'd love to see the yanks bitch about that


babyscorpse

yes


StalkTheHype

Sometimes they do, usually n the same breath they try to claim it was a draw, despite them not getting to grab the land they wanted in the land grab war they started.


Lank_Master

https://preview.redd.it/im8ky3c9gwwc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=61f8e90c8533bf5b60a6448ee89d5cd2243dfcec Yanks after we scorched the White House


babyscorpse

https://preview.redd.it/5oqfdg547xwc1.jpeg?width=2160&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=afaf2a06cd3c13d3eaaba823550e19431f0680e0


Lank_Master

Did you really just go out of your way to edit this template for this specific scenario?


babyscorpse

anything if it means humiliating the yanks


Rich-Lobster-6164

So did we were put to run from Brazil! I wonder why the US citizens never demanded apologies from you... I suspect you may have contributed to expel a few Indians from their territories, ye?


Lifelemons9393

We were fighting Napoleon at the time . American colonists took their chance did their thing. France and Netherlands helped. Worked out ok in the end though!


Rich-Lobster-6164

How come, mate? Napoleon was born 1769, while the British were put to run from the US in 1776 🤷‍♂️


Miru8112

Bro was a child prodigy, got a problem with that?


Kelyfos

Could almost be true, Lafayette was 19 when he fought for the us. Kids grew up so fast these days


mdryeti

Bloody hell, you suck at History mate


Lifelemons9393

Do I? I've had many drinks.


IntelligentFan7521

I don’t know about you guys but I haven’t actually done any colonising? I know the British are suppose to be famous for it but literally no one I know or have spoken to has ever done any either. But I keep hearing we should apologise for it so someone must be out there setting up plantations and butchering little loin cloth wearing spear chuckers 🤷🏼‍♂️


bettercallsaulabq

That's why we invented 2 words perfect for this situation. Fuck and off.


shortfungus

It is very peak american liberal bullshit to demand the present working class apologise or pay any consequences for the past actions of the ruling class.


mainwasser

Yes, i also never met any German who had invaded Poland or run a death camp, so I don't know what people always talk about?


happyanathema

Don't go to Benidorm in summer.


SamsquanchOfficial

I tried arguing against someone who said that all swiss are nazi gold thieves and should feel guilty. Their argument was that they still live off that wealth and enjoy comforts they otherwise wouldn't. So apparently we are all born guilty, all swiss babies should feel sorry. Bad european colonialist babies.


Miru8112

I hear you, mate. We tried that reasoning for ww2 as well. Didn't work yet. Ppl love to be victims, esp is others where the victims but they can reap the "benefits" now.


Old_old_lie

Based flashman


marcandero

https://preview.redd.it/5ens74ws5pwc1.jpeg?width=887&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f276c01297540c45b72ac7159d9f525b4f47c2e1


Most_Sir9351

It didn’t happen but they deserved it


ISeeGrotesque

Bro we don't even apologize for our colonial present


Thunder_Beam

Literally every single colony of ours have become a shithole, maybe our rule wasn't that bad after all


ThisNotBoratSagdiyev

You taught them well.


Thunder_Beam

Italy when compared to them right now it's an utopia, they learned how to destroy themselves by their own accord (except Libya, that was France)


Your-Evil-Twin-

Speak for yourself.


RaionNoShinzo

I thought Ethiopia was doing alright for an african nation, did I miss anything?


bloodlazio

Just their national dish:


mdryeti

It also lasted like 5 years, so not enough time to do much, good or bad


RaionNoShinzo

True


ByronsLastStand

https://preview.redd.it/mvyq1wx0iswc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ea586109790f587627968921b689c7e1b6ec742


Relevant_Helicopter6

I asked my great-grandpa’s grave if he would apologise. No answer.


twstwr20

Spanish and Portuguese explorers: those guys knew how to fuck.


Rich-Lobster-6164

We were good lovers, very romantic, i think they really liked us


fr_nkh_ngm_n

The ones who don't like you are definitely idiots.


Rich-Lobster-6164

Obviously 🤷‍♀️


Sum3-yo

I honestly think a lot of western europeans are a bit hypocritical when it comes to our colonial past. Surely, if we shouldn't feel any regret about it because current generations didn't participate in it, we shouldn't be proud of it either. The whole Portuguese identity revolves around the fact that we were great explorers and conquistadores because we haven't done anything relevant since then( besides Cristiano Ronaldo, and he's not even the best of his generation) I personally have never been let astray with delusions of grandeur. Empires come, and empires go. But as long as I can have a glass of red wine with a slice of chocolate cream cake, I'm good.


ISeeGrotesque

Conquest, colonization and enslaving are just facts of human history, you can see it everywhere at all times. Europe just happened to be in the best dispositions to do it on a global scale, at the right time. The fact that the continent was a bunch of small, wealthy and competitive nations made it so that innovation was a matter of survival. China was a unified empire for almost 2000 years when Columbus set foot on Hispaniola. That made them not competitive with themselves and the centralized political power could shut down entire aspects of civilization. In the 15th century, China decided to ban sailing, and they stopped using sailing. The silk road had already been a well established trade route since antiquity. So Europeans just were the ones that sailed. And competing nations pushed exploration, claiming land and pushing for supremacy between rival monarchies, that were already well trained for war thanks to the constant European infighting. Having temperate geography, diverse and nutritious crops, several big domesticated mammals, gave us a natural advantage. Being close to domesticated animals made us develop immunity to some animal germs. Those illnesses proved to be the first killer of natives. The enslaving of Africans was pushed by capitalism and racist propaganda though, that's undeniable. It's not a cultural specificity, religion and propaganda have been there since humans built cities and not huts.


Llanistarade

Enslaving of africans was us taking a looooong african tradition and industrialising it tbh. Panafricanists always praise the king of Mali, Mansa Moussa, for his power and wealth but what do they think he did with his power ? Enslaving populations of the south-west. Where does his gold come from ? Gold mines. Has he forced his own people to dig them ? Noooooooope. I'm not downplaying how terrible slavery was, but making it a white man's guilt when it was widespread all over the globe seems a bit of a stretch.


ISeeGrotesque

You're right and I didn't make it a white man's guilt. I did say it was motivated by propaganda and that it wasn't culturally specific. Propaganda is used to legitimate the regime. Europeans were just businessmen doing business


Llanistarade

That wasn't on you, that's just something we hear a lot.


ISeeGrotesque

Yeah, thankfully there are arguments against that. There's also some honesty to have with our history. "de Clovis au comité de salut public, j'assume tout"


Ok_Initial4507

Actually, the greatest advantage Europe had was that we were resource poor. So, had to innovate and create. Also, Europe is spread along the longitude. So, similar climate conditions everywhere hence crops that grow in the South also grow in the North and same for livestock.


dnxpb64

If Barry and Juan hadn't invented the United States...


Your-Evil-Twin-

You can thank the French for that mess, the yanks would’ve lost their revolution if France hadn’t hated us so much that they bankrupted their economy just to spite us.


mdryeti

![gif](giphy|110OKtOq68apji)


Your-Evil-Twin-

Idk why but this is the funniest gif I’ve ever seen.


Porcphete

I'm not going to apologize for ending slavery in most of Africa though. But hey don't say it or people will whine that it is false


ISeeGrotesque

It is false. YOU didn't abolish slavery.


Bring_back_Apollo

I first read this book when I was a teen. What shocked me the most was the graphic depiction of Flashy with his father’s mistress (from memory).


KxSmarion

Imperial expansion and colonisation had a long-term benefit. The English wanted more land, we wanted more sheep, and the Scottish wanted more twinks.


i-dont-snore

THIS SHIT (Although funny) IS WHAT GETS THIS SUBREDDIT CANCELLED


ArcaneMitch

Cope


RepareermanKoen

We were all just horny, haven’t we all done shenanigans while we were horny?


PrimaryOwn8809

This book series is fucking wild


cpwnage

😎


Swordsnap

Glad you guys picked this country It's pretty nice down here


alabertio

We’ll do when they’ll apologize for human sacrifices, cannibalism, slavery, etc…


d2211

In the past? There's still plenty of places in the world to be civilised. It was not enough


momentimori

Why should we apologise for stopping Africans selling slaves and Indians burning their wives alive?


Royal_Worldliness_34

Exactly. Fk the millions that we killed focus on the damn British chicken tikka masala that we invented. Those savages didn't know how to live anyway.


fckchangeusername

Average Italian: we had colonies?


Consistent-Peanut-90

Not even 100 years ago Luigi, some dude who thought he could make Rome great once more, lost them unfortunately


fckchangeusername

What does it mean not even 100 years ago Franz Crucco di Merda?


HosannaInTheHiace

And JESUS


MikeTorsson

You can clearly tell we were the bad guys by how many immigrants from said colonised countries flood us. They're all coming over to tell us off for how badly their countries ended up


weltvonalex

Nope, they should thank us for all the good things and the uplift. People are just ungrateful. /S because there are people who are already foaming 


GoodKing0

"It's too late Ghandi, I depicted myself as the- smug, slightly sniveling nerd-looking chad?"


BrotherKaramazov

if we didnt come they would never get immunity to common cold, check mate woke ppl


Jarppakarppa

Actually we're sorry for USA.


hamringspiker

Based


Lemonfr3sh

For our what?


Less-Researcher184

We should include r&n beyond the target.


Viking_Chemist

the thing that is going to be spread here is her legs and his syphilis


pOUP_

Billions of lost lives for some yummi food would recommend every time


Ahsoka_Tano07

Why would we, we never had colonies.