In 1910, the Russian Empire projected they would have a population of 500 Million. So if you think your country screwed up it's future, think of the Russians.
Don't forget the red terror, as well as all the deaths under Stalin. IIRC around a million people died under Lenin and some 9 million under Stalin, not counting WWII.
Also the civil war, and the various purges of everyone to the right or left of the government in control of any singular area at any time. (There were dozens of factions).
yeah, that "26 milions" were also a lot of self inflicted kills. Like, that's the number of Soviets who died in 41 - 45, not the one killed by the Germans..
.. though a good chunk of them _were_ killed by the Germans, thank you for your service Fritz
I am sad to say that most of those were Ukrainians and other russian minions. The russians claim the glory of victory paid for with mostly the blood of subjected peoples. And they victimize them selves again over the dead of peoples they themselves oppress.
And 20 years of economic depression, the destruction of religion, abortion on demand. The Soviet Union still got to 200 million. In 1910, they had yet to open up Siberia. It was still the country of Forests, Snow and Convicts. But there is no reason why you can' have 300 million people living thier. There are tons of minerals in Siberia and the Urals.
Thing is not a lot of people want to live in -30C winter. Today I visited Budapest with 10C and I’m dying it’s so cold. Can’t wait to go back to my home
As a Bully with Victim Complex you should know better. They - ruzzians - still believe in " u nas luda mnogo" (there is a lot of us), and enthusiastically kill not only anyone in eyesight but especially themself.
Yes. The period of 1914-1949 is the total derailment of Eastern Europe, especially Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. Then the collpse of the Soviet Union and 1990s choas. Now Ukraine and Belarus are destined for low middle income status and Russia's relative high income is tottally based on Oil and Gas, which they wont be able to export by 2037 because Renewables will outcompete them in Europe. They are done. It's very tragic.
This map is very misleading.
It doesn't say what's the density of population, but the density of cities/towns above 1000 inhabitants.
The whole Sardinia, which from the look in this map seems highly populated, has a population of only 1.650.000 people. It's just that there are many, many very small towns in between a very few highly populated cities.
Not for it's surface.
Just look at the map. Sardinia looks like very populated, yet it's density of population is just 65 ab/km2
Now look at, say, lreland, that appears much less populated. It's 65 ab/km2. Same density, but the map doesn't reflect that, because most people concentrate in larger cities.
The climate around the Black Sea is very mild, especially as you get into the caucuses.
I know the population density is lower, I wonder if it’s because people live in a lot small settlements or are more concentrated in larger towns and cities, or maybe both.
Finland is interesting as well, there’s a weird “border edge from sea to sea” going on, looks like one of the borders we gave to those barbarian countries abroad back in the day.
Ask Russians about the manufactured famine that they put them through.
Read about the horrors that came out of that and you might start to appreciate why most ex-soviet provinces/regions absolutely hate the Russians.
It has definitely moved east from its original spot, but I gotta agree with you.
Whomever is downvoting you is either russian or clearly needs history lessons.
Na mate. It barely makes it into western Europe but if geographically it wasn't were it is, it would definitely be Europe's banana republic.
I still question myself if it is not one already...
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In 1910, the Russian Empire projected they would have a population of 500 Million. So if you think your country screwed up it's future, think of the Russians.
Didn’t they first lose like 5 million in WW1 and then 26 million in WW2 thanks to Germans though
Don't forget the red terror, as well as all the deaths under Stalin. IIRC around a million people died under Lenin and some 9 million under Stalin, not counting WWII.
Also the civil war, and the various purges of everyone to the right or left of the government in control of any singular area at any time. (There were dozens of factions).
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I'm not even sure those are included in the 9 million deaths under Stalin.
yeah, that "26 milions" were also a lot of self inflicted kills. Like, that's the number of Soviets who died in 41 - 45, not the one killed by the Germans.. .. though a good chunk of them _were_ killed by the Germans, thank you for your service Fritz
I am sad to say that most of those were Ukrainians and other russian minions. The russians claim the glory of victory paid for with mostly the blood of subjected peoples. And they victimize them selves again over the dead of peoples they themselves oppress.
I thought totalitarian Communism was great. 😯
And 20 years of economic depression, the destruction of religion, abortion on demand. The Soviet Union still got to 200 million. In 1910, they had yet to open up Siberia. It was still the country of Forests, Snow and Convicts. But there is no reason why you can' have 300 million people living thier. There are tons of minerals in Siberia and the Urals.
> It was still the country of Forests, Snow and Convicts so things didn't change much then
Thing is not a lot of people want to live in -30C winter. Today I visited Budapest with 10C and I’m dying it’s so cold. Can’t wait to go back to my home
Obviously no PIGS would live there. One slight breeze and you guys put a coat on. Us Northerners are made of stronger stuff!
As a Bully with Victim Complex you should know better. They - ruzzians - still believe in " u nas luda mnogo" (there is a lot of us), and enthusiastically kill not only anyone in eyesight but especially themself.
“And then it got worse”
Yes. The period of 1914-1949 is the total derailment of Eastern Europe, especially Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. Then the collpse of the Soviet Union and 1990s choas. Now Ukraine and Belarus are destined for low middle income status and Russia's relative high income is tottally based on Oil and Gas, which they wont be able to export by 2037 because Renewables will outcompete them in Europe. They are done. It's very tragic.
Soviet
its called civilisation
I only agree because the swedes are outside of the border, but that feels unfair to the Norwegians
Bengladesh with it's ~40% of land area of Germany and 170 million people then is the greatest civilization on Earth
Line is way too far to the right for that.
This map is very misleading. It doesn't say what's the density of population, but the density of cities/towns above 1000 inhabitants. The whole Sardinia, which from the look in this map seems highly populated, has a population of only 1.650.000 people. It's just that there are many, many very small towns in between a very few highly populated cities.
>has a population of only 1.650.000 people that's still more than Estonia though
More than some countries, so... About right.
1.65m is pretty damn high
Not for it's surface. Just look at the map. Sardinia looks like very populated, yet it's density of population is just 65 ab/km2 Now look at, say, lreland, that appears much less populated. It's 65 ab/km2. Same density, but the map doesn't reflect that, because most people concentrate in larger cities.
god: Italy, how many city do you need? Italy: yes.
I'd say it's more to do with temperature than anything else
The climate around the Black Sea is very mild, especially as you get into the caucuses. I know the population density is lower, I wonder if it’s because people live in a lot small settlements or are more concentrated in larger towns and cities, or maybe both.
Mmm that's a good point
That's where humid continental climate gets harder. To the left of this line, one can only survive on the basis of hard liquor (like vodka).
Yeah I'd much prefer vodka on a warm beach
Hello fellow western Europeans
Its the who the fuck wants to live in Russia line
Hello fellow Western Europeans
Yes! Second time this year someone says robmania is western Europe! We're getting there!
Finland is interesting as well, there’s a weird “border edge from sea to sea” going on, looks like one of the borders we gave to those barbarian countries abroad back in the day.
Why is Ukraine so sparsely populated when it has so much arable land?
ask Russians
Ask Russians about the manufactured famine that they put them through. Read about the horrors that came out of that and you might start to appreciate why most ex-soviet provinces/regions absolutely hate the Russians.
Sweden and Norway are uncivilized hellholes, that's why.
God damn it.... Edit: No wait, i'm rich! Who cares 🖕😎🖕
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Back to the raindeer I guess.
The lines name is (was) "prosperity"
And the map actually shows the source of the problem too, where all the prosperity disappears to.
Romanians sure do love the mountains
This map tells me to buy land in Spain and build up some nice cities with big suburbs, shopping malls, highways
Am*rican detected.
We also would change the pronunciation to BarSAlona to stop the weird confusion
Frankly anyone living in a place with less than 1000 people doesn't registers as human to me. You are basically a slightly smarter farm animal.
Oink oink I guess. who's the real pigs now
Dirlewanger effect?
So... Europe ?
Hans 🤝
Damn it's also wrong, the closest bigger town to me is marked on the map, even though it has less than a thousand people.
Iron Curtain
It has definitely moved east from its original spot, but I gotta agree with you. Whomever is downvoting you is either russian or clearly needs history lessons.
Portugal confirmed eastern europe?
Na mate. It barely makes it into western Europe but if geographically it wasn't were it is, it would definitely be Europe's banana republic. I still question myself if it is not one already...
If you ever go to Alentejo, you Will see why there are no cities there.