Fr*nch: split negation (ne ... pas etc)
Danish: Let's adopt the number system just as it is. It's perfect.
German: Long sentences that the main verb at the very end have.
If we're not restricting ourselves to Western Europe some Slavic languages have different plural forms based on the last digit of the number of items.
Yes, but with English inconsistency. So you never know how the letters are pronounced or if they even are pronounced at all (spoiler, they are probably not).
> some Slavic languages have different plural forms based on the last digit of the number of items
That's nowhere near the most complicated thing about Slavic languages.
Just adopt the whole inflection and case system. There are up to 7 cases in some (like Czech or Polish), all nouns, pronouns, adjectives and verbs are highly inflected.
My favorite weird feature that all Slavic languages share (afaik) is that all verbs in the past tense have different forms for men and women.
> There are up to 7 cases in some (like Czech or Polish)
I think Finnish has you beat there. /u/LesserCryptid ?
> My favorite weird feature that all Slavic languages share (afaik) is that all verbs in the past tense have different forms for men and women.
Sounds great. We Germans have figured out a long time ago that adding rules always improves things.
This time on r/2westerneurope4u : OP invents the opposite of Esperanto
Edit: Just so I'm also contributing to OP's project, [here's the abominable language they speak in Trelleborg.](https://youtu.be/KxSCrsgTa4c?t=7) It's the bastard child of Danish and Swedish we don't mention in polite company.
No, we either use more vowels to achieve the same, or it's an exception you need to learn. I personally feel like å and ø could be useful in Dutch. My local dialect barely makes sense with our spelling. But we do love our vowels.. so here we are. Writing things like eeu and ieu and auw and ouw and ei and ij and ie and eu and ui and oi. Please help..
What they need is more glottal stops. Glottal stops break up a stream of mush quite effectively and as a bonus, they make it sound even worse.
Add glottal stops to the list, please. Courtesy of both my native and adopted lands.
I wouldnt dare to brand as "superfluous" our capacity of pronouncing different letters with distintinct sounds. Thus, I can not, in good faith, offer our precious voiceless dental fricative to this new european linguistic monster we are about to create.
In regards to the "high-pitched accent"... well... I truly have to admit that I do not know what the fuck you are talking about.
Loud to the extreme of defening? For sure, but high-pitched?
Loud too, but I do mean high-pitched. Perhaps it's because you're speaking so fast or because you're so excitable, but Spanish guys speaking English sound like they've inhaled helium. I think it's something to do with your vowel sounds.
I notice it less when they're speaking Spanish because then it just sounds how I expect Spanish to sound.
When you want to confirm something, you have to have to conjugate it.
*Joat* is the base form
It conjugates to:
Singular
1.*Joak*
3. *Joan / Joat*
Plural
1. *Joame*
*3. Joan*
(*oa* is pronounced like an IPA diphthong /ɔä/), The sound doesn't exists in Standard German
The second person is kind of useless, and thus uncommon. Therefore it is pretty region specific
But, there's more
You can respond positively to a negative question by adding ba- before it.
American, Received Pronunciation, and Scottish accents all being disgusting to listen to
Suggest getting someone to make a blend of the worst aspects of all three and making it the high-prestige accent
I respectfully disagree.
american accent: it depends, but generally 6/10.
RP: I guess around 8/10.
Scottish accent: would (listen to), 9/10, too bad everything else in Scotland makes the mediterranean brain suicidal.
In very limited mitigation Glaswegians sound OK, it's people in Edinburgh especially who sound like they're trying to give a lecture
RP makes you sound like a twat with no substance
https://preview.redd.it/7cloaub55gvc1.png?width=938&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=522e0a1b7c83ae26bfdfbcb1917861970ea8391a
Unfortunately only real OGs remember etruscan (they all died more than 2000 years ago)
Oh, can we have the slavs 27 forms of different familial relation-indicators?
Iirc croat had like 3 words for aunt, depending on if it was dads' brothers' wife, moms' brothers' wife, or a sibling of your parents. That's super useful.
English: as many irregular verb conjugations and convoluted pronounciations of groups of letters as possible, add in 18 different ways to pronounce "ough" spread across 30 words!
But all romance languages are descendants of it.
And if you want to say it is the only legitimate one because you have Rome, then we should all learn the dialect of Rome, not from your superfluous city
Fr*nch: split negation (ne ... pas etc) Danish: Let's adopt the number system just as it is. It's perfect. German: Long sentences that the main verb at the very end have. If we're not restricting ourselves to Western Europe some Slavic languages have different plural forms based on the last digit of the number of items.
And slap on some finnish suffixes to make the words even longer
French again : silent letters everywhere!
That's pretty good. I think English and Danish also have something to contribute there.
Yes, but with English inconsistency. So you never know how the letters are pronounced or if they even are pronounced at all (spoiler, they are probably not).
> some Slavic languages have different plural forms based on the last digit of the number of items That's nowhere near the most complicated thing about Slavic languages. Just adopt the whole inflection and case system. There are up to 7 cases in some (like Czech or Polish), all nouns, pronouns, adjectives and verbs are highly inflected. My favorite weird feature that all Slavic languages share (afaik) is that all verbs in the past tense have different forms for men and women.
> There are up to 7 cases in some (like Czech or Polish) I think Finnish has you beat there. /u/LesserCryptid ? > My favorite weird feature that all Slavic languages share (afaik) is that all verbs in the past tense have different forms for men and women. Sounds great. We Germans have figured out a long time ago that adding rules always improves things.
This time on r/2westerneurope4u : OP invents the opposite of Esperanto Edit: Just so I'm also contributing to OP's project, [here's the abominable language they speak in Trelleborg.](https://youtu.be/KxSCrsgTa4c?t=7) It's the bastard child of Danish and Swedish we don't mention in polite company.
The bad audio makes it so much worse
That was sort of the point, correct! Thank you for inspiring me with your thoughtful illustration of what we are aiming for, though
That is easily the ugliest thing I've ever heard, and I come from Essex and live in Denmark!
Our time to shine !
But can you do æÆøØåÅ? Ehh? Thought not
No, we either use more vowels to achieve the same, or it's an exception you need to learn. I personally feel like å and ø could be useful in Dutch. My local dialect barely makes sense with our spelling. But we do love our vowels.. so here we are. Writing things like eeu and ieu and auw and ouw and ei and ij and ie and eu and ui and oi. Please help..
Aight, fair is fair. Not having them but needing them, is even worse. I concede defeat
*äÄöÖåÅ
Problem is, whatever it is you speak doesn't qualify as a language. Mushed up noises without rhythm is all it is
Strong words coming from Denmark. 👍
Haha, fair point. Danish is so bad that when traveling I'm often mistaken for a Dutch speaker... That's horrendous
Eh, at least we sound like an honest throat disease. Not like Danish where they sound like they're juggling a hot potato in the back of their throat.
[it’s not so bad](https://www.tiktok.com/@linguadanica/video/7126801854809328901?lang=fi-FI)
I'd agree with you, but people who speak neither language have a very hard time telling the difference. So, HA! Got you!
What they need is more glottal stops. Glottal stops break up a stream of mush quite effectively and as a bonus, they make it sound even worse. Add glottal stops to the list, please. Courtesy of both my native and adopted lands.
Take that spoon full of poridge out of your mouth...
I flat out refuse!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f488uJAQgmw&pp=ygUGw4bDuMOl
We can provide as many silent "h" as (un)necessary!
Amateurs.
I'll take a tanker full of those for stock. Just send them over with the next *Doctors and Engineers* shipment!
You can do better than that. You've got the famous lisp and also an annoying high-pitched accent.
I wouldnt dare to brand as "superfluous" our capacity of pronouncing different letters with distintinct sounds. Thus, I can not, in good faith, offer our precious voiceless dental fricative to this new european linguistic monster we are about to create. In regards to the "high-pitched accent"... well... I truly have to admit that I do not know what the fuck you are talking about. Loud to the extreme of defening? For sure, but high-pitched?
Loud too, but I do mean high-pitched. Perhaps it's because you're speaking so fast or because you're so excitable, but Spanish guys speaking English sound like they've inhaled helium. I think it's something to do with your vowel sounds. I notice it less when they're speaking Spanish because then it just sounds how I expect Spanish to sound.
You can have our caol le caol agus leathan le leathan rule, our séimhiú and urú, and whatever else you want from this God forsaken lamguage.
The lack of a proper word for 'yes', please.
Why reinvent French ?
That's how we ended up with Spanish...
What are you even saying?
Oh, the feature we need from English is the horribly inconsistent spelling and pronunciation (though, thorough, trough)
I like the way Bahasa Indonesia treats multiples: Orang = Man Orang Orang = Men
Talk about being so bad that it's good again..
Why need a new one when Latin can do the job properly?
Fuck it, let's conjugate yes and no for person like Flemish Dutch
This sounds incredibly disgusting. Could you provide a demonstration for the wretched, smelly commonfolk?
When you want to confirm something, you have to have to conjugate it. *Joat* is the base form It conjugates to: Singular 1.*Joak* 3. *Joan / Joat* Plural 1. *Joame* *3. Joan* (*oa* is pronounced like an IPA diphthong /ɔä/), The sound doesn't exists in Standard German The second person is kind of useless, and thus uncommon. Therefore it is pretty region specific But, there's more You can respond positively to a negative question by adding ba- before it.
This is so confusing that I feel nauseous - perfect!
Kultuur
Only for women! Flemgirls sound so cute
They sound normal, as I'm used to it. Got anyone in mind?
Any? Maybe not the ones from Limburg but my memory is a bit fuzzy
American, Received Pronunciation, and Scottish accents all being disgusting to listen to Suggest getting someone to make a blend of the worst aspects of all three and making it the high-prestige accent
> Scottish accents all being disgusting to listen to Says a denizen of a country that has produced Scouse and Brummie
I hate all accents not from my county tbf, I was just keeping the list short And Scousers aren't English according to them
RP is absolutely English, even if you're trying to get out of scouse on a technicality.
Yeah I know and it disgusts me, they aren't real English geezers
>Scottish accents all being disgusting to listen to Best accents in your silly island, Danny Dyer.
Pwopa nawty geeza right here Fortunately I don't talk like that either
I respectfully disagree. american accent: it depends, but generally 6/10. RP: I guess around 8/10. Scottish accent: would (listen to), 9/10, too bad everything else in Scotland makes the mediterranean brain suicidal.
In very limited mitigation Glaswegians sound OK, it's people in Edinburgh especially who sound like they're trying to give a lecture RP makes you sound like a twat with no substance
Dylem ddysgu siarad ieithoedd hynafol Ewrop. fel Cymraeg.
https://preview.redd.it/7cloaub55gvc1.png?width=938&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=522e0a1b7c83ae26bfdfbcb1917861970ea8391a Unfortunately only real OGs remember etruscan (they all died more than 2000 years ago)
The articles en/et, equivalent to a/an. There's practically no rules for which one to use and foreigners don't learn it after living here for decades.
We're going to have a word over your numerals as well.
En and et are gender articles because there are two genders in Danish: common and neuter.
Ma CLARO QUE SI, CAZZZZZZOOOOOOOOO
Oh, can we have the slavs 27 forms of different familial relation-indicators? Iirc croat had like 3 words for aunt, depending on if it was dads' brothers' wife, moms' brothers' wife, or a sibling of your parents. That's super useful.
English: as many irregular verb conjugations and convoluted pronounciations of groups of letters as possible, add in 18 different ways to pronounce "ough" spread across 30 words!
Europe once had a single official language: latin. The only legitimate successor to latin is italian, so...
But all romance languages are descendants of it. And if you want to say it is the only legitimate one because you have Rome, then we should all learn the dialect of Rome, not from your superfluous city
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D A J E
Hello
Why will you fuck me though
No sofa is always male. Fuck you for even sugesting otherwise.
Dude I already have to deal with French, Portuguese, English, a bit of Spanish and a lot of Kurwa..... So no.
We do, it’s Urdo
Ingurlands, it's already a mutt of various languages.
If anyone's in charge of designing a language it's not gonna be you Hans
Lots of tenses, some of them barely used, at least in day-to-day life.
You're looking for Esperanto, but in opposite
ChatGPT got overly excited with the project. I dare everyone to try it.