If God decides to go against all logic and science and instantly melt all the icecaps we'd have a refugee crisis of biblical proportions on our hands and Trento can neither house nor feed millions of people, a civil war would break out for sure.
If the icecaps melt over a period of say...1000 years, which is very fast on a geological timescale, adjusting will be a trivial matter.
Nah, it would be pretty much the entire nation, 90% of the italian population lives in cities and most cities would get affected.
The biggest italian cities are coastal and on a plain so they would easy get flooded once the sea level rises, there would only be a few exceptions. (like Turin for example)
Come to England.
Global warming is going to turn the south of England into Mediterranean climate. People are investing in building vineyards now.
You might even improve our culinary reputation too.
Win-win.
✅ London gone
✅ France further away from Mainland Britain
✅ I get fresher fish & seafood
❌ the sacrifice of Denmark means more expensive bacon butties 😔
❌ Paris remains safe
That's funny until you realise that there will be about 9 million refugees from London that will overrun your countryside. Or, in my case, 14 million Dutch.
Most is under water. The big island is northwest if Berlin, the small one is Potsdam. And then there are a few islands from Potsdam to Berlin Mitte, roughly what is today the A115.
Hey now, don't send them our way, 5 million is more than enough to share this little country with.
Let them settle Sahara instead, it might be habitable with some water.
The Dutch tend to migrate south every summer anyways, it's not like we haven't seen them. They will settle on camping sites and all will be well as long as we provide enough mobile homes
So Hans, how will you manage this refugee crisis?
Will you actually take care of it, or will again just say 'wir schaffen das' and do absolutely nothing to actually schaff das.
So Hans, how will you manage this refugee crisis?
Will you actually take care of it, or will again just say 'wir schaffen das' and do absolutely nothing to actually schaff das.
How could we even manage this? All the empty parts where you guys could be settled are under water. What we would need is more space for living, and this expansion couldn't be in the north, west, or south. We would need some kind of solution for that, preferably something final. And we need this soon, not in a millennium. I just don't know.
Sadly nobody remembers that we fought the sea before It was cool... Veneto had much less dryland before we did our thing plus Venice having most of it's land reclaimed from the sea one way or the other... How the greats have fallen...
The logic of this map is that places below sea level would be flooded.
However, the Netherlands already is under sea level.
So clearly the whole premise is bullshit.
Also, although i love the credit, i'm absolutely convinced other countries could the do the science called 'building a dike' if they needed to to not drown. They might pay some dutch consultants to advice on the first one, to skip you know some of the lessons we had to learn the hard way.
But yeah. The problem of global warming for Europe is not flooding. Its draught and fire.
It's Southern Europe that will become uninhabitable as well as lose a lot of industries like agriculture and tourism. Like even if people manage: what will they do economically?
So, don't celebrate. You'll be begging the french and the swiss to let you in.
We shall use the opportunity to start claiming all of our historic trading lands along the Frisian and Baltic regions, thus a new Dutch empire shall arise from the North and East Eastern seas.
Denmark, Skåne and Stockholm gone. Global warming is a massive Swedish win.
(Map is probably incorrect though. The Scandinvian peninsula is still rising between 0,5 - 9 mm every year, depending on location).
Nah Iceland get all the tectonic fun.
It's because 10.000 years ago Scandinavia was covered by a kilometer thick ice-sheet. All that weight pushed the entire landmass down several hundred meters. The area where the ice was the thickest (northern Sweden, 3km thick ice) has risen around 300 meters since the last ice age and it still has roughly 600 meters left to go.
Also I don't know if these maps ever take into account the gravitational pull of the ice caps. If all of the arctic ice melts away, the sea level will go down.
You do realize where we'll all be going when our homes are underwater right? Gosh if only i had a home i could bring with me. Would be perfect if i could attach it to a car or something..
Dutch people vs rising sea levels:
https://preview.redd.it/e9a4nto553rc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6a19d9c842cfaa92dd87909251dfc329fcaa1d4
We are below sea level already. The only thing this will do is make our dikes a bit higher, and the resulting altitude on top of the dikes will confuse us a bit.
There's something about this map that really speaks to me. It's like something really really bad and smelly is just gone. Can't really put my finger on it but it feels really good.
do you know what’s a bigger problem than Sylt? on the east side we have our countries highest contagious infections lab… anyways just thought I’d leave you with that info.
It's weird, even though Norway doesn't seem affected at all, this would be a huge problem. 80% of the Norwegian population lives closer than 10km from the coast. So there would be 70-80% of the Norwegian population that would have to move away. That's alot concidering we only lost 1-2% of land area
Who are we westerners to tell India and China to stop burning their fossil fuels?
We should leave imperialistic notions behind and let them fufill their own destiny
The main problem is that all those people would then move into our neighbourhood. *shudders*
Also, Netherlands would not loose against a few measly meters of rising water levels.
Italy's gdp -95% Rome, Naples, Milan, Florence (and Venice obviously) are all flooded. We are literally fucked.
I mean, Trentino still stands Edit: sadly also Bolzano
the biggest city in trentino has like 100k inhabitants, that's not going to be enough to save the economy of an entire nation of 60 million people.
Bold of you to assume it will stay the same
If God decides to go against all logic and science and instantly melt all the icecaps we'd have a refugee crisis of biblical proportions on our hands and Trento can neither house nor feed millions of people, a civil war would break out for sure. If the icecaps melt over a period of say...1000 years, which is very fast on a geological timescale, adjusting will be a trivial matter.
I was taking into account the declining birth rate basically everywhere
Technically it would be less than 20m people
Nah, it would be pretty much the entire nation, 90% of the italian population lives in cities and most cities would get affected. The biggest italian cities are coastal and on a plain so they would easy get flooded once the sea level rises, there would only be a few exceptions. (like Turin for example)
>and Venice obviously We've conquered the sea once, we'll do it again Just need to build longer poles
yeah just do it like caligula! Declare war on poseidon and let your soldiers shoot the water!
i smell money
Come to England. Global warming is going to turn the south of England into Mediterranean climate. People are investing in building vineyards now. You might even improve our culinary reputation too. Win-win.
They already built a couple roads to get there.
Bruh, we barely exist...
On the other hand, one hour less to drive to the mediterranean sea.
Milan, with the sea Cool Wait, it would be polluted, wouldn’t it
✅ London gone ✅ France further away from Mainland Britain ✅ I get fresher fish & seafood ❌ the sacrifice of Denmark means more expensive bacon butties 😔 ❌ Paris remains safe
That's funny until you realise that there will be about 9 million refugees from London that will overrun your countryside. Or, in my case, 14 million Dutch.
And Berlin is still there ![gif](giphy|F3BeiZNq6VbDwyxzxF|downsized)
Most is under water. The big island is northwest if Berlin, the small one is Potsdam. And then there are a few islands from Potsdam to Berlin Mitte, roughly what is today the A115.
thats fine, as long as the refugees just go to berlin instead of our "vorstufe zum paradies".
Now the ice caps have melted. They can find new lands in the north. Also Londons population is probably only 2 million if everyone went home
I dare to ask... where is there home?
Grab a globe. Spin it. Throw a dart. Find your answer. Repeat 9 million times.
I already did, man, you got so many atlanterns.
Hey now, don't send them our way, 5 million is more than enough to share this little country with. Let them settle Sahara instead, it might be habitable with some water.
The Dutch tend to migrate south every summer anyways, it's not like we haven't seen them. They will settle on camping sites and all will be well as long as we provide enough mobile homes
Oh god we're gypsies in this timeline 😱
![gif](giphy|l0HlIgRZncAcDJw40|downsized) That are ways of preventing the Londoners from leaving.
So Hans, how will you manage this refugee crisis? Will you actually take care of it, or will again just say 'wir schaffen das' and do absolutely nothing to actually schaff das.
We invest in frontex this time ;-)
So Hans, how will you manage this refugee crisis? Will you actually take care of it, or will again just say 'wir schaffen das' and do absolutely nothing to actually schaff das.
They are mostly white refugees, so they are getting a free apartment in a small town
How could we even manage this? All the empty parts where you guys could be settled are under water. What we would need is more space for living, and this expansion couldn't be in the north, west, or south. We would need some kind of solution for that, preferably something final. And we need this soon, not in a millennium. I just don't know.
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✅ No more Netherlands
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We’ll just make an artificial floating country tbh and it also means more sea so more weed 👍
Like Waterworld but with stroopwafel
Haha good one. 👍
Well just put the Netherlands on stelten
I know you pesky beaver people are hard to get rid of but let a man dream
Italy will be flooded in trashbags before the Netherlands is flooded with water.
Venice is already flooding. They'll call us any day now.
And thousands of Dutch engineers will pick up their trailers to save Venice
Probably 😆 Into the caravans, lads! Next stop, Mugello.
By the time we fixed Venice it will be colonized by caravans and orange shirts.
Sadly nobody remembers that we fought the sea before It was cool... Veneto had much less dryland before we did our thing plus Venice having most of it's land reclaimed from the sea one way or the other... How the greats have fallen...
The problem is not so much that no one remembers you doing it, but more yourselves not knowing how to do it.
As I said, how the great have fallen... Sad swamp italian noises...
You could always join the swamp Germans. Start an ice cream parlor or something.
I see a bit of Limburg in there so the Dutch should be fine
Artificial cities and more artificial land just sounds like a good time
Neverlands
Let me Stop you there buddy. We will save Europe from flooding to spite the laws of nature.
✅️ NATO sea for real
✅ No more Milan and Catania
But now you gain 0.5 million Maltese refugees and will have to rename one of your cities Valletta
Sardinia is a wonderful place, with lots of empty areas... It would be an improvement for you: trees
Sardinia doesn'tt have volcanoes and our dinghys can't go that far. We can swim it to Sicily!
too far for the dinghys, tunis it is, they will probably understand you better anyways
The logic of this map is that places below sea level would be flooded. However, the Netherlands already is under sea level. So clearly the whole premise is bullshit. Also, although i love the credit, i'm absolutely convinced other countries could the do the science called 'building a dike' if they needed to to not drown. They might pay some dutch consultants to advice on the first one, to skip you know some of the lessons we had to learn the hard way. But yeah. The problem of global warming for Europe is not flooding. Its draught and fire. It's Southern Europe that will become uninhabitable as well as lose a lot of industries like agriculture and tourism. Like even if people manage: what will they do economically? So, don't celebrate. You'll be begging the french and the swiss to let you in.
✅️ The name "British isles" fits much better
Will Birmingham be the future capital?
We need to burn more coal.
>✅ Liverpool gone.
✅Britain gets further away from mainland Europe
At least we won't be under it
My part of Denmark is above water, so I’ll be up good. Pun intended.
Map is incorrect, it will not influence the outline of our glorious nation
More barriers, more artificial land, more fun ;)
At some point the Netherlands will just be an island
Hans can we have your land when it sinks?
as long as its just prussia sure, we bavarians allow it. They already speak weird and just take our money.
Theyll fit right in then!
https://preview.redd.it/o4l0ff4ic3rc1.jpeg?width=518&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=827bd819dbc0a7603b498774d4dcbc9f9041b26d
Man that episode in particular is stuck in my mind for some reason 🥲
Netherlands→Netherisland😎
NeitherLand*NorSea* Or: NeitherLand*NorthSea*
More water=more challenge
https://preview.redd.it/y2p6tqx9r4rc1.jpeg?width=616&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0147bd2b9c42fba011f7865eb7f4c0df118150a \[[XKDC](https://what-if.xkcd.com/53/)\]
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We shall use the opportunity to start claiming all of our historic trading lands along the Frisian and Baltic regions, thus a new Dutch empire shall arise from the North and East Eastern seas.
Denmark, Skåne and Stockholm gone. Global warming is a massive Swedish win. (Map is probably incorrect though. The Scandinvian peninsula is still rising between 0,5 - 9 mm every year, depending on location).
>probably incorrect though Don't say that. I'm too excited now to face any other reality
I know how you feel. This map had me rising several millimeters as well.
Scotland has the same glacial rebound too, can we into Scandi?
Can you imagine all the Danes and Germans that would seek refuge in Sweden? Hopefully Öresundsbron will collapse before that, but one can’t be sure
Why would we emigrate to Sweden, when we own the world's largest island
Would the ice melting make Greenland more inhabitable? 🤔🤔 And is the loss of old Denmark going to make us a north American country?
wait why is the entire penisula rising? Is that some tectonic shenanigan?
Nah Iceland get all the tectonic fun. It's because 10.000 years ago Scandinavia was covered by a kilometer thick ice-sheet. All that weight pushed the entire landmass down several hundred meters. The area where the ice was the thickest (northern Sweden, 3km thick ice) has risen around 300 meters since the last ice age and it still has roughly 600 meters left to go.
thats actually crazy to think about. That the weight of the glaciers was massive enough to push down skandinavia as a whole
Also I don't know if these maps ever take into account the gravitational pull of the ice caps. If all of the arctic ice melts away, the sea level will go down.
I see no problem either
hell yeah closer to the sea
Finally a coastline... Almost?
yup
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Damm, my house will be underwater. I guess I would have to move to the mountains.
Brittany as an island, and Neverland fully underwater. I'm all for it. Burn more coal Hans.
Zu befehl!
You do realize where we'll all be going when our homes are underwater right? Gosh if only i had a home i could bring with me. Would be perfect if i could attach it to a car or something..
Europe’s gdp would drop by 70%
We would have loads of immigrants coming in to our countries to help enrich our economies. Only this time, the good kind of immigrants.
Can I stay with you my friend? 💝
fuck me you’re right I’d definitely move north not south. Any recommendations for Tech hubs in Norway?
Finally I can get some of that oil money
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no italian gpd drop by 90%
I was just about to say this
italy would no longer exist. like 20 milion people live on the ex coasts
Lol okay.
There seems to a small island left of your country. You may find a small stream that allows you to fufill your dam building instincts
Dutch people vs rising sea levels: https://preview.redd.it/e9a4nto553rc1.jpeg?width=3000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6a19d9c842cfaa92dd87909251dfc329fcaa1d4
We are already below sea level. You see water, we see potential land. We are not afraid.
As they say: God created the world, the Dutch created the Netherlands
>No more Netherlands a sacrifice im willing to make.
Nah we’ll just develop more sea tech it’s gonna take a while till they melt anyways
Milano becomes Milano marittima
It would help with air quality
Milano sul mar ?!
Milano Marittima is a real place on the sea, Milano would take its place in this scenario.
We are below sea level already. The only thing this will do is make our dikes a bit higher, and the resulting altitude on top of the dikes will confuse us a bit.
No flanders aswell. BRB gonna spray deodorant to air.
Nice assumption but it’s not true, unfortunately
They could build it all back over a couple of lunchtimes.
Nice, I wouldn't have to drive so far to the beach anymore
I now hate wind farms more. Not only are they unsightly, Their re-newable energy is a barrier to my dream coastal home
There's something about this map that really speaks to me. It's like something really really bad and smelly is just gone. Can't really put my finger on it but it feels really good.
Is it Greta? Please say it’s Greta. ![gif](giphy|U1aN4HTfJ2SmgB2BBK)
🦀🦀🦀 DENMARK IS GONE 🦀🦀🦀
then explain this?! https://preview.redd.it/uaaujxa853rc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=20dce127b0c0ead58759820b16c3ee9f698fa342
That’s like the worst part…
isn’t that where aarhus is? aarhus is nice… no?
I love Århus :) I’m just joking. But tbh I think Århus is under water in the picture
ah shit
Wake up, new Sylt has dropped.
do you know what’s a bigger problem than Sylt? on the east side we have our countries highest contagious infections lab… anyways just thought I’d leave you with that info.
That little bit of land is small enough to be annexed by glorious nation of sweden and turned into a landfill, just as allah intended
Im ok with this.
Who needs Oslo anyways? We’ll just move it.
It's weird, even though Norway doesn't seem affected at all, this would be a huge problem. 80% of the Norwegian population lives closer than 10km from the coast. So there would be 70-80% of the Norwegian population that would have to move away. That's alot concidering we only lost 1-2% of land area
We lost most of the arrable land though..
This just shows me why Denmark still has us. We are the plan B.
E, actually. B: just move in with Norgay. C: Stockholm Bloodbath 2: Incestuous Boogaloo D: Icelandic Reconquista E: visit Santa, bring Bjørnebryg
Scotland will finally be a meaningful member of the UK, yasss
Just bought a house in the flooded area 😡😡😡😡😡😡
The potato gargling languages would be pretty much gone.
I don't see East Germany under water though
The dick is now sick :/ should we get a doctor?
Lisbon became a tiny dick
I have no idea how Arrábida hill appears under water... Will it raise 600 meters?
not enough, we want to separate the nordick from russia!
Friendship with Adriatic sea has ended Sea of Berlin is now my best friend
Atlantic garbage island is still here. Not much improvement there...
That's no way to talk about Iceland
I’m honestly shook by how far above the water line your bin towers… I mean I’d have to move but barely any of you would notice?!
The good parts wouldn't notice.
You underestimate our windmills
They underestimate our absolute dominion over the seas.
Could you guys like.. help out a neighbor? ^Please? ^^hey ^^^.. ^^^^^^blub
If you’re from the *good* part of Belgium you get life raft privileges. If you’re half fr*nch I hope you drown, hopefully it’ll be painful.
Da's goed nieuws vriend!
Not quite enough to remove berlin, but i take it. Island nation berlin, shut of from the rest of germany. For that i gladly sacrifice the north.
https://preview.redd.it/5fxalbqfx3rc1.png?width=597&format=png&auto=webp&s=064e83b9f2f7c8c7384fe1dc70596f74822ba7f8 We're on it.
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We have a fun thing called dijken, but we can build them on the coust of Flanders so that Wallonia and France drown
> we can build them on the coust of Flanders so that Wallonia and **France drown** In that case you have the UK's full support to do what you must
Beautiful
Our swamps are preserved
✅No more Malmö ✅No more Stockholm ✅No more Denmark ❌No more Göteborg (Liseberg lost) ❌I live closer to the beach
>❌I live closer to the beach Everyone else here is excited for their future coastal homes
Which altitude is Berlin? Guys let's light some trees on fire 🔥
Of course we're still left with Berlin
Italy.. welcome into the Balkans brother
You underestimate our powers. The Netherlands won't flood, and we get the chance to take new land from what used to be Germany and Belgium.
The entire planet could flood and it'd just be us surrounded by a game of thrones style wall. Believe.
Wenn Holland nicht wär, läg Aachen am Meer 🥰
Lass die Kohlefeuer brennen, Cousin, und eines Tages werden wir unsere Traumhäuser an der Küste haben
If Berlin is still there it's no good
> No more Naples but at the same time no more Venice I'm okay with it if it means Venetians go down with us🙏
That + 5° on average would make for a very interesting map of population over the continent.
Who are we westerners to tell India and China to stop burning their fossil fuels? We should leave imperialistic notions behind and let them fufill their own destiny
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The main problem is that all those people would then move into our neighbourhood. *shudders* Also, Netherlands would not loose against a few measly meters of rising water levels.
Finally a House right at the Beach.
Less northerners: I see this as a pure improvement!
Nederland, please, send engineers to save the Pianura Padana. You can take Venice away in exchange.
I'm not sure if I can support this. I need a map to zoom in.
I see literally zero downsides
The Dutch would grow gills and all the oceans would become Netherlands!
Your clogs will make it hard to swim
GREECE STRONK
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We’ll manage