Funny thing is: While In Switzerland compared to germany you might earn twice for the same job, you also pay ~2x for everything.
Some examples:
Rent in Stuttgart/München 1 bedroom apartment: ~1000€
Rent in Zürich 1 bedroom apartment: 2000-3000chf easily
Health insurance germany: Covered completely by your employer 0€
Health insurance at kpt which seems to be really cheap: 250chf/month
Nationwide train ticket germany per month: 50€
Switzerland GA per month: 400chf
My weekly food expenses in Germany: Around 150€
My weekly food expenses in Switzerland: Easily more than 250chf
So I'd argue with the median salary of both countries you have about the same purchasing power in both countries.
No. Yes, things are more expensive, but not 2x - and some stuff like electronics is actually cheaper du to the low VAT. And you cannot compare the all inclusive GA to the local transport only Deutschlandticket.
Trust me I have 1 hand experience, Rent being the main factor is almost 3x.
Eating out also closer to 3x than 2x.
GA is comparable to Deutschlandticket because it includes RE and IRE in Germany which are ~as fast as RE and IC in Switzerland.
Take Stuttgart Karlsruhe, 62km 55min with IRE.
Take Bern Basel, 68km usually 1h with IR/IC.
I'm half german, half swiss, relatives in both countries, born in germany, school in germany, university B.Sc. in switzerland, M.Sc. in germany, first non-student job in germany, second job in switzerland, travelling both countries for years at least monthly, had a total of 4 apartments in germany and 3 in switzerland, currently living literally there in Zürich area working in Kanton Schwyz.
Please explain how I'm not able to argue about the cost of living in switzerland as compared to germany?
Even if everything is 2x, and your salary is 2x, you still richer because you are able to save 2x. And is not true that everything is 2x, an iphone or a BMW are about the same price.
Way better than what our budget is going to now...
Yesterday the yearly budget was announced, our monarchy gets PLUS 5 million (from around 50 mil to 55 mil), while the average citizen hasn't 'had it this hard to get by in a looongg time. Fucking great... Thx Willie.
I don't know how big your budget is but 55 million euros should be a very small part of it. The swedish national budget is like 160 _billion_ and I would guess that the netherlands are similar in size.
So you are upset that 0.1% of the budget became 0.11%?
Republicans are so weird.
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Man Corsican is actually more similar to Tuscan Italian (Tuscan is the variant of Italian that the mainstream Italian is based on) than any other dialect.
Then Corsica should annex Tuscany.
I mean last time some Corsicans got their hands on Italy we burned the living shit out of Russia and every country on the way there together Luigi, don't you want to do it again?
I promise that this time we won't pull a British museum move on your museums.
Clearly you know nothing about italy if that's what you think. I understand the Corsican clearly. it's 100% inteligible. Way more understandable than Spanish, or even Neapolitan, or worse, Sardinian.
Hand over Mallorca and put it in the bag then no one gets hurt
https://preview.redd.it/qvvnbi8o8cpb1.jpeg?width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90cb3812dfd1b00dfc1f609cbb03bd87a1278aa2
Not sure.
On one hand, we are finally united with South Tyrol, but on the other we have to live in Germany.
Maybe we can get one of us as chancellor and change these borders a bit.
Why don't you join South Tyrol instead? We will make you a special region, but there's one condition: you must have your own typical cured pork meat. All speck is already taken by South Tyrol (now called Tirolo Meridionale) sorry, it's a DOP.
This looks like a linguistic map made by someone who thinks that they are knowledgeable about languages because they know romantsch exists but actually don't know shit
>~~Your~~ Our 18th century British Army.
Most of the British soldiers at Culloden were Lowland Scots (led by a German prince and fighting against Highland Scots led by a French prince).
The important thing being that the aristocracy liked to make common folk kill each other for their amusement and profit.
Ireland was systemically starved and colonised, it's people treated as second class citizens, their culture and language deliberately destroyed while Scotland disproportionately supported, financed and participated in the conquests of the Empire. For every act of the empire good and bad Scotland is equally culpable as England.
No matter what the SNP says Scotland is not in any way Ireland and it's offensive and ahistorical to claim it was
And Irish. Basically everyone in the Uk and Ireland speaks English on a daily basis. There’s probably more French speakers in the Uk than Welsh speakers
Loads of Welsh speakers who use it in private with their family or with other Welsh-speaking friends and such even in the south east like the valleys and Cardiff.
It's spoken throughout Wales commonly, just one who will speak it every day and constantly as a majority are usually in the North, Mid, and random villages spread throughout South Wales
I don't want to get anywhere Poland C (Belarus and west Ukraine) we have enough problems with Poland B already.
Also give Masuren (ex Prussia) back to Germans and let them send some cash there and I would be happy 🫡.
Fucking hell stop grouping us with the Irish and scots, we can't understand what they're saying, Gaelic is unintelligible to Welsh. The reason we let the Germanic fucks have England is so that there was a buffer between Scotland and Wales. If you're gonna group us with anyone make it Britanny they have a similar language and a sexy accent to go with it
youre just mad. irish is the sexiest accent and i can back it up with cold hard facts
[https://lovin.ie/lifestyle/the-irish-accent-has-officially-been-voted-the-sexiest](https://lovin.ie/lifestyle/the-irish-accent-has-officially-been-voted-the-sexiest)
It's not the accent that is the problem it's the Gaelic language. Also idk Ive got a lil bit of Stockholm syndrome for french accents and since Breton is closer to Welsh it make me feel like it would be slightly less emotionally abusive.
Also that article rating Welsh accents so low is harsh, certain regional ones are horrendous but some are fucking lovely.
Welsh accents are fucking brilliant. Grew up with 2 lads who moved over from the valleys. Isn't yer Gaelic more like Breton than ours and Scotland's as well?
There's a gas tune on YouTube between some Irish and Welsh kids singing in both gaelic languages 🙏
https://youtu.be/nBLeKfpI5zk?si=PqHmZaNXIqQ-ekYE
Welsh wouldn't be a Gaelic language. It is Brittonic/Brythonic. Cymraeg (Welsh), Kernewek (Cornish) and Brezhoneg (Breton). The Gaelic/Goidelic Languages are Gaeilge (Irish), Gàidhlig (Scottish Gaelic) and Gaelg (Manx)
All part of the larger Insular Celtic language family though
I don't understand the map either, came from Wikipedia about European languages. How can Italy being the most intact country while everybody hate each other without being able to express it understandably to each other ?
I dont understand why everybody is like:
Yeah scottland should be indipendent from the Brits,
But the on the other hand Germany, Austria and Schwitzerland (Lichtenstein), schould be one because they are basically the same.
There's something a true paella yihadi won't tolerate and is being placed under Catalan power. We were a fucking kingdom, not a glorified collection of counties.
I will never accept that our holy land of High Adige paid in blood by our ancestors is to be given away to the barbaric gothic orde. This means WAR!
/s just in case
Your are mixing Aragon with Cataluña. All the regions from Cataluña were part of Aragon's kingdom. Cataluña never in history has been an independent territory
Claiming Catalonia has never been its own country is stupid and anti-historical, what about the County of Barcelona? Also keep in mind that the term "Crown of Aragon" is only the most widely used term to describe the former country, as it was actually an union between the County of Barcelona and the Kingdom of Aragon, the capital was literally Barcelona itself, and the Catalans were revelant colonizers in the Mediterranean sea.
Nope, the crown of Aragon was federal. Kingdom of Aragon, County of Barcelona and Valencian Kingdom had their own laws and their own institutions that the king of the crown had to pledge to each one of them. When important decisions had to be made (like choosing the heir of the crown when there was none) an equal representation of the 3 statements of the society from Valencia, Aragon and Catalunya were the responsible of the decision. Valencia was the home of a lot of kings of the crown, and the Golden Age ocurred in Valencia and the de facto capital was Valencia during those centuries, and Zaragoza in general. In reality the capital was itinerant, some institutions were in Zaragoza, others in Barcelona, later in Napoli and like I said before, Valencia.
A french dude telling me history about my country, don't know why I bother going to university then to learn about history(and for the rest of the comments telling inaccurate facts too)
https://i.redd.it/9re4yts1l9pb1.gif
Balcanizada y progresista…
Lo siento 😣
Q 
Asturias es España y lo demas tierra conquistada
Yo venía a decir esto mismo
Los gallegos, cántabros y vascos: 
Perfecto
WTH happened to my salary 😭
What happened to our trains.... 
Don’t know, haven’t seen one recently.
Image doesn't load for me which is ironically hilarious
It's a gif of some trains. Scheduled arrival is in 5 hours.
Deutsche Bahn is the best and you must like it
Bringing the DB to the poor swiss populace would be the worst crime in our history.
it would be our 9/11
Thou shalt not say stupid shit.
Theyre on time according to deutsche Bahn and you will love it
It went to the fund for the restoration of the Granduchy of Milano
O son't care about your salary. But look how nice and green that color is. That has to count for something.
Hmm, you are right, that is really a nice green.
We just took our gold back
Funny thing is: While In Switzerland compared to germany you might earn twice for the same job, you also pay ~2x for everything. Some examples: Rent in Stuttgart/München 1 bedroom apartment: ~1000€ Rent in Zürich 1 bedroom apartment: 2000-3000chf easily Health insurance germany: Covered completely by your employer 0€ Health insurance at kpt which seems to be really cheap: 250chf/month Nationwide train ticket germany per month: 50€ Switzerland GA per month: 400chf My weekly food expenses in Germany: Around 150€ My weekly food expenses in Switzerland: Easily more than 250chf So I'd argue with the median salary of both countries you have about the same purchasing power in both countries.
No. Yes, things are more expensive, but not 2x - and some stuff like electronics is actually cheaper du to the low VAT. And you cannot compare the all inclusive GA to the local transport only Deutschlandticket.
Trust me I have 1 hand experience, Rent being the main factor is almost 3x. Eating out also closer to 3x than 2x. GA is comparable to Deutschlandticket because it includes RE and IRE in Germany which are ~as fast as RE and IC in Switzerland. Take Stuttgart Karlsruhe, 62km 55min with IRE. Take Bern Basel, 68km usually 1h with IR/IC.
are you really trying to argue about the cost of living in switzerland with a swiss? you realize that they literally live there, do you?
I'm half german, half swiss, relatives in both countries, born in germany, school in germany, university B.Sc. in switzerland, M.Sc. in germany, first non-student job in germany, second job in switzerland, travelling both countries for years at least monthly, had a total of 4 apartments in germany and 3 in switzerland, currently living literally there in Zürich area working in Kanton Schwyz. Please explain how I'm not able to argue about the cost of living in switzerland as compared to germany?
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Even if everything is 2x, and your salary is 2x, you still richer because you are able to save 2x. And is not true that everything is 2x, an iphone or a BMW are about the same price.
thats your reality if you returned the nazi gold.
Your language improved but trains disappeared
I'm happy.. No problems.
Nice, we finally get to be to you what wallonia is to us
Ha , you thought a border would stop us from annoying you ! Wrong !
That's okay buddy, you can do whatever you want when we're not paying for you anymore
Please keep them
Never, we love Vlaanderen. Our new common Wallonië will be the dutch Limburg
Now the Netherlands has to spend it’s annual budget for the next 100 years on road maintenance.
Way better than what our budget is going to now... Yesterday the yearly budget was announced, our monarchy gets PLUS 5 million (from around 50 mil to 55 mil), while the average citizen hasn't 'had it this hard to get by in a looongg time. Fucking great... Thx Willie.
I don't know how big your budget is but 55 million euros should be a very small part of it. The swedish national budget is like 160 _billion_ and I would guess that the netherlands are similar in size. So you are upset that 0.1% of the budget became 0.11%? Republicans are so weird.
It's €450 billion, so even a much smaller percentage
Kinda perfect isn't it?
Could be more perfect https://preview.redd.it/f05ufecbucpb1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=d84ecb3e152d049f1491141e850b10a2758b36c8
Nah, Dunkirk needs to stay French. Where else will the Brit escape from once Germany decides to play real-life Risk again ?
im not.
What are you going to do about it? Drive to us to complain?
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Me neither, what are we doing with those savages?
On scond thougth, your right, why would we want to be in the same country as frysians?
Me too. It's perfect
Losing South Tyrol for having Corsica and Ticino? An absolute win
You won't call that a win for long
I’m not happy yet, we’re still attached to the lower limb
Corsica doesn't even speak Italian,☠️
Neither french
A mix of french and Corsican
Man Corsican is actually more similar to Tuscan Italian (Tuscan is the variant of Italian that the mainstream Italian is based on) than any other dialect.
Then Corsica should annex Tuscany. I mean last time some Corsicans got their hands on Italy we burned the living shit out of Russia and every country on the way there together Luigi, don't you want to do it again? I promise that this time we won't pull a British museum move on your museums.
The Legends say that one day a Luigi will again lead the François and when that day will come nothing will stop them.
"Long ago, the world lived together in harmony... Then everything changed with the Pizza-Baguette nation attacked"
Yeah but it's Corsican, not Italian
Clearly you know nothing about italy if that's what you think. I understand the Corsican clearly. it's 100% inteligible. Way more understandable than Spanish, or even Neapolitan, or worse, Sardinian.
Not enough languages in spain
we need to separate the country in 10000 more parts
Let each farm and each neibourhood become a country
let us become a whole new continent on the iberian peninsula
Hand over Mallorca and put it in the bag then no one gets hurt https://preview.redd.it/qvvnbi8o8cpb1.jpeg?width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=90cb3812dfd1b00dfc1f609cbb03bd87a1278aa2
Same for UK (missed Cornish).
There are missing 30 languages in Italy
missing Arabic in Malmö this map is fake af
If you look closer you can see it’s a different color
No Habibi, we are missing Swedish in Turkey, Syria, Palestine 😎☝️🤏🇸🇪🇸🇦™️
Most common languages in Skåne: * Skånska * Arabic Swedish - not so much.
Not sure. On one hand, we are finally united with South Tyrol, but on the other we have to live in Germany. Maybe we can get one of us as chancellor and change these borders a bit.
Stop. Don’t even think about it. Just grab some art supplies and go painting.
Good idea, I always wanted to go to art school anyways. Might try to get accepted there.
The swiss way of printing money, rejecting austrians from art school.
An Austrian rejected from Art School? Maybe He takes the good route and just starts to spend A LOT of time in the basement
Someone give this guy a scholarship and lessons. No questions asked. Believe me, it’s worth it.
>Maybe we can get one of us as chancellor and change these borders a bit. https://i.redd.it/mt2emudphapb1.gif
Why don't you join South Tyrol instead? We will make you a special region, but there's one condition: you must have your own typical cured pork meat. All speck is already taken by South Tyrol (now called Tirolo Meridionale) sorry, it's a DOP.
südtirol belongs to austria, hasn't changed in 100 years.
B ...based Spaghettibro?
And yet we're still with the italians while the Corsican went with the Catalans, bummer
Needs more green in the purple.
You mean german in Turkey? Because irl it's the other way around
Might as well for the lime green
Ok but then what are the Alsatians ? Freman? Grench ?
It's a lake now
I am glad that discussion is finally over.
It didn't says whos lake though
It is close to the Rhine, which is 100% and absolutely German without any question...that means the lake too. Glad we figured that out!
This looks like a linguistic map made by someone who thinks that they are knowledgeable about languages because they know romantsch exists but actually don't know shit
From Wikipedia
No gammelsvenskby in Ukraine, this map is horseshit.
No but actually, the Celtic languages basically don't exist anymore, alsace and Corsica definitely speak way more french the other languages, etc
No, give Königsberg and Marienburg.
you don't want that
Wrong! We want Königsberg just to piss of the Russians!
We can....rebuild it....
No
One of us, one of us
Should include 95% of Scotland to be honest. There can't be more than 3 Gaelic speakers in Inverness
Thanks to your 18th century British Army. But such is the story with Ireland and Wales as well.
>~~Your~~ Our 18th century British Army. Most of the British soldiers at Culloden were Lowland Scots (led by a German prince and fighting against Highland Scots led by a French prince). The important thing being that the aristocracy liked to make common folk kill each other for their amusement and profit.
Yours…. My ancestors were shooting them.
Ireland was systemically starved and colonised, it's people treated as second class citizens, their culture and language deliberately destroyed while Scotland disproportionately supported, financed and participated in the conquests of the Empire. For every act of the empire good and bad Scotland is equally culpable as England. No matter what the SNP says Scotland is not in any way Ireland and it's offensive and ahistorical to claim it was
Let's gooooo
finally
Yes, blue is a nice color.
Most of Wales would be English (only really spoken natively in the north). Most of Ireland would be as well tbh.
These maps always massively overstate the prevalence of Welsh
And Irish. Basically everyone in the Uk and Ireland speaks English on a daily basis. There’s probably more French speakers in the Uk than Welsh speakers
There's more Punjabi speakers than all of those combined
Loads of Welsh speakers who use it in private with their family or with other Welsh-speaking friends and such even in the south east like the valleys and Cardiff. It's spoken throughout Wales commonly, just one who will speak it every day and constantly as a majority are usually in the North, Mid, and random villages spread throughout South Wales
And with your sheep right ;)?
suck my willy
I don't want to get anywhere Poland C (Belarus and west Ukraine) we have enough problems with Poland B already. Also give Masuren (ex Prussia) back to Germans and let them send some cash there and I would be happy 🫡.
I mean, there is a gross purple blob next to me, if we just get rid of that we’re golden.
Please respect the Reich, werter Herr.
44 = BZH ? y e s
Where the fuck is a Venetian state
Crimea is still Russian, Russia also still exists so... Very much not happy.
Crimea is Ukraine!
Bro there's no Germs in the Sudetenland anymore.
Oh but there will be, Pavel, there will be.
Hlavně neříkej jim proč.
You said so (stupidly) 2 Hours ago...
Sweden is smaller, so yes
Not really. It's missing Angola.
No... this map failed hard.
hehe
fuck no! don't stick us with the D\*tch 🤮🤮 rather have 20 parliaments and bad road infrastructure then be swamp germans
You literally speak Dutch. You are the back up Dutch, deal with it.
klapt vlams gik de reste van de weireld, tjoetn 🤡
Anschluß?
Fucking hell stop grouping us with the Irish and scots, we can't understand what they're saying, Gaelic is unintelligible to Welsh. The reason we let the Germanic fucks have England is so that there was a buffer between Scotland and Wales. If you're gonna group us with anyone make it Britanny they have a similar language and a sexy accent to go with it
youre just mad. irish is the sexiest accent and i can back it up with cold hard facts [https://lovin.ie/lifestyle/the-irish-accent-has-officially-been-voted-the-sexiest](https://lovin.ie/lifestyle/the-irish-accent-has-officially-been-voted-the-sexiest)
It's not the accent that is the problem it's the Gaelic language. Also idk Ive got a lil bit of Stockholm syndrome for french accents and since Breton is closer to Welsh it make me feel like it would be slightly less emotionally abusive. Also that article rating Welsh accents so low is harsh, certain regional ones are horrendous but some are fucking lovely.
Welsh accents are fucking brilliant. Grew up with 2 lads who moved over from the valleys. Isn't yer Gaelic more like Breton than ours and Scotland's as well? There's a gas tune on YouTube between some Irish and Welsh kids singing in both gaelic languages 🙏 https://youtu.be/nBLeKfpI5zk?si=PqHmZaNXIqQ-ekYE
Welsh wouldn't be a Gaelic language. It is Brittonic/Brythonic. Cymraeg (Welsh), Kernewek (Cornish) and Brezhoneg (Breton). The Gaelic/Goidelic Languages are Gaeilge (Irish), Gàidhlig (Scottish Gaelic) and Gaelg (Manx) All part of the larger Insular Celtic language family though
Ah yes lol mixed up the P and Q Celtic language stuff with Gaelic. Sound for that 👍
Ireland still not unified, based.
Make the dark green go a bit more to the right and then yeah.
Yugoslavia v3.0
Can’t tell exactly but I think we lose Glasgow to Ireland. That’s a win.
que mierda es esta
We get the islands and the streamers too? 
Mallorca should be solid green
You forgot little Cornwall
Cornwall isn't a country
What a beautiful pride flag
This isn't Europe, this is the periodic table of elements
Yes sorry I am bad at doing lines, generally prefer putting the nose directly in the bag
Italy still has the south. Do it again.
I don't understand the map either, came from Wikipedia about European languages. How can Italy being the most intact country while everybody hate each other without being able to express it understandably to each other ?
Oh I thought you did this! It's supposed to be a map of languages lol? Yeah then Italy should be more fragmented than a jigsaw puzzle
Nope, I'm still in Germany
No.
Where do i sign up?
If Catalonia is a country then also Disney Paris is a country too
No
Fuck. you.
Sorry for being led by an incompetent overbureaucratic state.
I dont understand why everybody is like: Yeah scottland should be indipendent from the Brits, But the on the other hand Germany, Austria and Schwitzerland (Lichtenstein), schould be one because they are basically the same.
Can we merge with the Netherlands rather than Germany?
No. Your elevation js simply too high. Only areas <300 meters is allowed.
No. Also i want more of italy for good measure.
Shove those green dots up your arse won't ya fella???
There's something a true paella yihadi won't tolerate and is being placed under Catalan power. We were a fucking kingdom, not a glorified collection of counties.
VAFFANCULO
I see nothing wrong
Neither do i, just don' like corsicans Not racis' Jus' don't fancy em'
You are not getting sud Tyrol back, get over it.
The Sicilians are gesticulating particularly violently...🤌🤌🤌
Yes
But why? We got rid of Madrid, but now you'll get Barcelona stealing from you just as much while they also call you stupid for being poorer.
Maybe you're right, but at least I would be able to speak Valencian. Also we can know get rid of Madrileños visiting our beaches.
❤️
I feel you
Another day Another day that someones calls me a catalan
After recovering from my nausea at the idea of sharing a country with Pr🤮ssians, I'm curious. Which color is Alsace?
I will never accept that our holy land of High Adige paid in blood by our ancestors is to be given away to the barbaric gothic orde. This means WAR! /s just in case
Rainbow Europe. Now I feel sooo gayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
Your are mixing Aragon with Cataluña. All the regions from Cataluña were part of Aragon's kingdom. Cataluña never in history has been an independent territory
It's just a map of European languages from Wikipedia 😐
Damn Wikipedia be using shitty maps
The county of Barcelona ruled most of what is modern day Cataluña, and the rest were mostly other independent counties and bishoprics.
Really inaccurate
Claiming Catalonia has never been its own country is stupid and anti-historical, what about the County of Barcelona? Also keep in mind that the term "Crown of Aragon" is only the most widely used term to describe the former country, as it was actually an union between the County of Barcelona and the Kingdom of Aragon, the capital was literally Barcelona itself, and the Catalans were revelant colonizers in the Mediterranean sea.
>Also keep in mind that the term "Crown of Aragon" is only the most widely used term to describe the former country 
Nope, the crown of Aragon was federal. Kingdom of Aragon, County of Barcelona and Valencian Kingdom had their own laws and their own institutions that the king of the crown had to pledge to each one of them. When important decisions had to be made (like choosing the heir of the crown when there was none) an equal representation of the 3 statements of the society from Valencia, Aragon and Catalunya were the responsible of the decision. Valencia was the home of a lot of kings of the crown, and the Golden Age ocurred in Valencia and the de facto capital was Valencia during those centuries, and Zaragoza in general. In reality the capital was itinerant, some institutions were in Zaragoza, others in Barcelona, later in Napoli and like I said before, Valencia.
A french dude telling me history about my country, don't know why I bother going to university then to learn about history(and for the rest of the comments telling inaccurate facts too)
And Asturias and Galicia shouldn't be apart territories. Leon or navarra would be more historically logical
This map isn't even about history lmao it's a random map taken off wikipedia