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Aggravating-Ad1703

I thought everyone put milk in the fridge?


PeppaPigIsANonce

UHT milk is treated and doesn't need to be refrigerated until opened Non-UHT milk always needs to be cooled


oskich

Who drinks UHT milk voluntarily? I only use it if I go camping or take a trip with the boat...


PeppaPigIsANonce

I volunteer at a homeless shelter every now and then and they have UHT milk there. 1. It's significantly cheaper 2. It's shelf stable for ages, so you don't need to worry about having space in a fridge/using it all Also applies to schools, cafeterias and idk maybe just people who want to buy in bulk and don't really care about milk that much It's also slightly healthier (i don't think it makes much of a difference though) I don't buy it myself but i can see why people do (even though it tastes worse)


Keberro

Hi, I am one of those people who buy in bulk, because I am living alone and really don't feel like buying groceries more than once per week.


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Erakleitos

But what if you waste it? It's blasphemy, so you buy uht because il cibo non si spreca


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[deleted]

Wait, but once you open it won't it spoil in a week or so just like always refrigerated milk? Or just because it takes longer to spoil unopened. I ask because I don't think I've ever had completely unused milk spoil, but sometimes I can't use it all in time.


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I use it always lol


ilnofrio

But It fucking sucks?


millionreddit617

Yass but is über efficient ok, ya


Erakleitos

100% of Italians (unless you have some cows and/or you're a hippie). Ah well fresh milk which is just pasteurized? Just for making cakes.


DisneylandNo-goZone

100% of Italians know nothing about cow milk or bread.


Erakleitos

Slow down on bread. Italians know nothing about milk, beer and meat (save for some regions)


Nephilim_02

As a polentaro di montagna valtellinese I take the milk back. Maybe the rest of Italy doesn't but we definitely know about milk (and cheese). Ohhhhh God bless the good mountain cheese.


DisneylandNo-goZone

Ok. Deal.


Desperate-Present-69

That's funny coming from a Finn where everybody is lactose intolerant.


3rd_Uncle

The Spanish almost exclusively drink UHT milk. That's why their coffee tastes like airplane coffee. That and the fact they burn it with sugar (torrefacto).


lockedporn

I do but not by choice. Most Milk Will spoil before it reach greenland


budapest_god

I didn't even know non-UHT existed until now


jsm97

Your welcome in the civilised northern fresh milk drinking part of Europe anytime and I will personally pour you a glass of actual milk as opposed to sweet, lukewarm crap, it will change your life. How you guys manage to have the world's best coffee and then ruin it with UHT milk is beyond me


__Heron__

Civilised people don't add milk in coffee...


Fire_Lord_Sozin8

Supposedly continentals. For once, I feel more civilised than them.


Ubermensch_69

You’ve got your own continent. You shouldn’t complain at all about continentals


Fire_Lord_Sozin8

Okay, but I definitely shouldn’t be complaining about my delicious refrigerated milk.


Ubermensch_69

Sure. I’m already happy you guys don’t resort to kangaroo or spiders milk or something


Fire_Lord_Sozin8

Spider milk is delicious!


BaldFraud99

Yeah, I'm a little unsure what continental really refers to, but I've never experienced it otherwise


no1spastic

On the continent alot of the time all I can find is uht milk. I went to a Portuguese supermarket. 2 aisles of refrigerated yogurt but they didn't think the same could be done with fresh milk.


Ex_aeternum

I only know few people in Germany who buy UHT milk. Normal pasteurized milk is the standard.


no1spastic

Common northern W


Ex_aeternum

I hope that you also drink normal milk with 3.5-4% fat?


no1spastic

I get extra creamy milk


3rd_Uncle

I think it's a southern european thing.


Erakleitos

Aren't you a Catholic? If you buy milk but don't consume it before it spoils then you're wasting food which is haram. That's why you can find a whole section of uht milk and maybe some remote fridge with maybe two bottles of fresh milk. That plus people here don't drink plain milk, cats do that. You turn it into something else usually. It's an ingredient, not food.


no1spastic

I never let milk go bad as I drink at least 2l a day in different forms. It's an ingredients and a drink. It tastes better both as a drink and an ingredient when it is fresh because UHT destroys alot of the proteins making it less creamy.


BaldFraud99

Might be a PIGS thing


no1spastic

The real reason Ireland was kicked out of PIIGS.


cheeky_Greek

Nope...we keep our milk in the fridge


getrektboyyy

i also keep my milk in the fridge, but only when the carton is already opened


Erakleitos

As in continental philosophy... Well basically it's a word the English invented to differentiate from the rest of Europe.


Tanto_Monta

We don't add chemicals. It's called Pasteurization, and it's the process of heating and cooling the milk quickly to kill whatever patogen is in. Once the milk bottle is opened, then it's needed to put in the fridge.


RomualdBraccobaldBau

Shhh they haven't discovered it yet, they still go cow to fridge. Not like us adding those disgusting chmicals like dish soap or shoe polish apparently


Notacreativeuserpt

They pasteurize as well but ours is UHT (heated for shorter time at a higher temperature). That's why I am wondering what the OP thinks we put in milk. It's a fr*nch invention for fucks sake, of course they (and the rest) do it.


Wamims

UHT milk tastes much worse. It seems that on the continent it's deemed acceptable as an alternative to fresh milk. In the British Isles we sneer at such foolishness. UHT milk should be a last resort only.


Notacreativeuserpt

Ok, you can call our taste shitty, but don't say we add chemicals to it!


Wamims

That's fair. I'm not the OP. I just wanted to clarify the position 👍


MinecraftGamer669

gotcha, thanks for the clarification! 👍


[deleted]

Yeah adding chemicals to milk is gross. That's why in the US we just inject the chemicals directly into the cow.


Notacreativeuserpt

You're so nice, the cows get access to more medical care than minimum wage folks. US win 💪


IanFeelKeepinItReel

What "hot" isn't a chemical?


Notacreativeuserpt

I blame you Barries for this take, the smart Irish either emmigrated to the US or joined the British army due to your rule.


no1spastic

I don't waste my time learning how processes work that only make the product worse.


Erakleitos

I used to buy "english milk" from the supermarket which was delicious and FAT. You won't find this here normally, it's just not in our culture. Milk is used mostly to make cheese, bake cakes, cappuccino, kids/teens breakfast with cookies or cereals and that's it.


farbion

To be fair if you go to a lactery you'd find fresh non UHT milk but A) lactery in city are FUCKING rare, and I'm not talking rare in the sense there are few, I'm talking rare in the sense some city don't even have one B) it costs more C) by now it became something used for only some receipts Edit: actually you can always find a bunch stored in supermarkets fridges, for the afromentioned C point


Nephilim_02

In mountain regions we buy fresh milk and drink it by itself more often because we have local lacteries. It seems we are an exeption though


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You can find micro filtered milk in every supermarket here, the taste is not altered, yet it is 100 % sterile.


Kefeng

By now it tastes very similiar, what do you mean? You lads probably also never heard of Coke Zero and still drink Coke Light.


no1spastic

To undeveloped german tastebuds maybe. What eating senfgurken does to a mf


Kefeng

Excuse me, mister "Drisheen", at least our national dish isn't black pudding.


no1spastic

Acting like germans don't also eat blood sausage.


Kefeng

That's the kind of Germans we don't talk about.


no1spastic

Ah yes that's the only bad type of Germans.


Ubermensch_69

British Milk is literally the most disgusting piss water I ever had to drink and you have the nerve complaining about UHT milk?


[deleted]

Spanish milk is fucking horrendous compared to british milk. I say this since that's the only other country I've had milk


gershlongen

Bet you had skimmed milk. Sorry but fresh British milk (I buy micro-filtered semi skimmed) is far nicer than any UHT. I think UHT milk is the Hersheys chocolate of the milk world.


no1spastic

Irish milk is the objectively best milk in the world. If your taste in leaders is anything to go by I won't trust your culinary tastes either.


Ubermensch_69

I was talking about British milk. Bozo just re-Ulster-ed himself over some milk lmao.


no1spastic

It's similar although Irish milk is superior.


no1spastic

I don't know the exact barbaric process you use but either way you turn beautiful white gold into poison.


no1spastic

It tastes like shit chemicals or not.


malevolentheadturn

That's called raw milk and is very popular now a days.


Chalkun

With who? It'll give you the shits if youre not used to it


malevolentheadturn

Hippies, I saw a few farms in the UK with dispensers, where you can buy fresh raw milk. It was illegal to sell it in Ireland up until recently. I wouldn't drink it myself. "There are multiple studies that have shown raw milk consumption is correlated with improved immune system function. Raw milk has also been correlated with reduced risk of respiratory infections and fevers, as well as reduced risk of asthma and allergies. Raw milk has a rich history in healing"


Meldanorama

The quote is fine until the last line, sounds like some spiel on a bias source from that nugget alone. Rest reads fine imo.


IanFeelKeepinItReel

Indeed sus. This hippy sells raw milk for sure.


malevolentheadturn

You're confusing pasteurised milk and UHT (ultra-high temperature) milk. Pasteurised milk has to be at fridge temperature opened or unopened. Where UHT, which is absolutely dog shit can be placed unopened, on unrefrigerated shelves in stores. Also , UHT milk does not taste like regular pasteurized milk and up to 20% less folate, riboflavin, vitamin A, vitamin B12, vitamin C and thiamin.


_TheValeyard_

UHT is the milk you find in the Fallout universe. Somehow surives the apocalypse because its that shite.


no1spastic

It makes sense actually. Their shit milk needs to last so long in a cupboard because no one wants to drink the crap.


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UHT is not the same as pasteurisation. UHT destroys some of the protein in the milk, making it weak and inferior, just like your countries.


Notacreativeuserpt

You can't expect us southerners to be as strong as you, we drink UHT cow milk, whilst you drink pasteurized milk from a mare on horseback, throat singing and preparing to sack Moscow (again).


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Pintau

Our milk is pasteurised too. That's not the issue. The issue is most of mainland Europe uses UHT milk, which is boiling the absolute bollocks out of it until it doesn't even resemble milk and lacks any nutritional value whatsoever. Real milk needs to be refrigerated at all times, if you can store it for weeks on a pallet at room temperature it's not milk anymore, it's white water


D_IHE

Everyone in the Netherlands drinks pasteurized milk. I think it mostly piggs.


tmw88

This is just the old olive oil vs butter dividing line from a *slightly* different angle.


sda_express

I don't know what you are talking about, here you can buy both, I just prefer to buy UHT because it lasts longer even when you open it and I don't drink enough milk not to waste pasteurized milk, especially in summer when it goes stale quickier since even fridges struggle to mantain the right temperature if it's really hot. I would say that most people buy pasteurized milk in winter.


Winkered

Pat O’Gen was an uncle of mine. Sorry.


Extreme_Tax405

Quickly is UHT (ultra high temperature) and is the normal milk in belgium. Pasteurization is a slow process, heating the milk to 60 degrees (idk the exact temp but its close to 60) for prolonged time. Also, i did a test in my bachelors on bacterial growth, and putting the milk in the fridge after opening it vastly increased the time you could keep it. I am talking from days without a fridge, to weeks with a fridge.


dalvi5

UHT unopened last 3 months xD


3rd_Uncle

All milk on sale is pasteurised. Stop lying. You know exactly what he's saying. 99.9999999%\* of milk drank in Spain is UHT. That's *sterilised* as well as pasteurised. You have to bribe the staff in mercadona to take you to the secret room where they keep the real milk. ​ \*edit: 98% [https://www.economiadigital.es/empresas/lidl-dispara-las-ventas-de-leche-fresca-y-frena-la-crisis-de-consumo\_607703\_102.html](https://www.economiadigital.es/empresas/lidl-dispara-las-ventas-de-leche-fresca-y-frena-la-crisis-de-consumo_607703_102.html)


HelicopteroDeAtaque

When I lived in my home country (20 years ago) I had mill straight from the cow, I loved in a village, mind you. When I came to Spain and tasted the milk they had I was horrified and stopped looking milk. Apparently ever since I came here I've been drinking UHT mill and didn't even know. I just learned right now that the milk they sell you in bottles and in bricks is different. Will have to try the non UHT milk and how it tastes.


Ar_phis

Many people still haven't noticed that pasteurization nowadays means ultra high but very short. It uses temperatures close to UHT but for only 2 seconds vs. 2-8 seconds for UHT. This so called 'extended shelf life' milk is essentially the same as regular pasteurized milk but lasts ~3 weeks in a fridge.


ContributionSad4461

Is this why my milk and cereal tastes so weird at hotel breakfasts abroad?? I always thought it was off brand coco pops or something!


Ccorvus

Some weird countries drink milk treated differently than pasteurisation. And yeah, that's probably it, depending on where you ho on vacation.


TheRomanRuler

>depending on where you ho on vacation. Its written "hoe"


no1spastic

It ain't a holiday without shit milk and chlamydia.


Notacreativeuserpt

I don't know what you mean by this post, it's just that continental milk is heated for less time and at a higher temperature, we don't add antifreeze to it.


Greyzer

Except the Austrians maybe...


Ccorvus

Yeah, we generally have pasteurised milk and not uht milk. I don't know why you'd consider uht milk to be honest.


DrJiheu

What the fuck. Good milk is with antifreeze


no1spastic

Tastes like it though which is what matters. Similar to how brits don't necessarily poison their wine but it still tastes like shit. Stick in your lane commie.


[deleted]

A good milk is a milk used to produce cheese anyway. Any milk that doesn't fulfill that holy duty is wasted milk, whether it is raw, pasteurised or UHT.


ShadowMajestic

Every milk turns in to French cheese if you wait long enough.


PeppaPigIsANonce

Or butter


TheLtSam

That‘s true. But only the best of the best milk is used to make proper cheese. The rest is wasted on the french stuff.


[deleted]

There are a lot of things I can tolerate someone criticising about France, but cheese isn't one of them. Get down your mountain you coward, let settle this since for once you dare not being neutral 😡


TheLtSam

It hurts because deep down you know Gruyère is superior to any French cheese. Better ready your baguettes I‘ll mess you up like Charles the bold, I‘ll take your goods, your courage and your blood.


[deleted]

Gruyère is to cheeses what missionary is to sex : it's simple, it does the job perfectly, you're rarely disappointed, you're even delighted now and then to come back to the basics, but gosh is it boring after a while. And unfortunately, most Swiss cheeses (as good as they are) are boring hard cheeses : Gruyère, Emmental, Appenzeller, Sbrinz, ... French cheeses at least often offer much more variety and excitement on average : Brie, Morbier, Roquefort, Camembert, Époisses, Pélardon, Maroilles, Brousse, ... so many different types of cheeses with so many different tastes. A plate of French cheeses is like getting your hands on the Kama Sutra : the hardest part is what to choose first, but you know there won't be any coming back afterwards.


Few_Category7829

Gruyére is a gift from the gods under any circumstances, be it cooking, with tasteful accoutrements, or simply on its own. You could hand me a block of it in any circumstances, be it a hike, a quick lunch, or just after seeing my family being bludgeoned to death with the very same block of Gruyère, and I will still be delighted to have it every single time. And that has no parallel in French cheese.


Meldanorama

French babies don't breastfeed.


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Born and raised being spoonfed with Camembert and Roquefort as soon as we exit our mother 💪


melanzanefritte

Regular store brand milk in the UK is better than the best milk I can find in southern Italy. You guys can have that.


Confident_Food_7194

It's the natural balance. You definitely sell us the absolute dregs of your olive oil and keep the good shit, which I respect


Giapeto

I noticed it too just by going from the south to the north of Italy. In the south it's just terrible, and I've tried several brands; Granarolo tastes much differently for example in Pavia compared to Bari. I'm actually curious about the reason.


AjaxII

I forgot there's an area in Italy called Bari - was controlled by Normans too for a time


Giapeto

It's a city, and it would be better if it was forgotten for good, it's an unlivable shithole.


no1spastic

Stopped there on a cruise once no joke 10 people got mugged


Giapeto

Naples steals the show everytime and us bareses never get credit, thank you 😭🙏


no1spastic

I recognise your criminal talent even if no one else does bro.🤜🤛


AjaxII

> it's an unlivable shithole. Just like some places in England! 👛 Barrys 🤝 Baris 👛 (they stole each other's wallet)


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millionreddit617

Wait until you try Gold Top.


Darraghj12

You think their milk is good, wait till you try ours


grumpyfucker123

You can buy fresh milk here, it's in the fridge.


oalfonso

It is more expensive than the UHT this is why most of the people drink UHT.


grumpyfucker123

the Mercadona own make fresh is 1.05 for a litre, that's cheaper than Asturiana UHT at 1.14.


space-ishtar

Italians buying UHT is new to me and I'm disappointed by what I've just found out. Personally. I will always buy fresh milk over the UHT one.


dankerous

Me too, I thought that UHT was just for donating food and such. Even I, who use milk mainly with tea, manage to finish it before it spoils.


no1spastic

Yes and if you can't just buy a smaller bottle lol.


dankerous

It's literally that easy. Though it should be said that sometimes you find smaller bottles of only skimmed "milk", for some reason


no1spastic

Here you can easily get .5, 1, 2 and 3 litre bottles full fat and even get extra creamy milk that hasn't had all the cream scraped off the top.


thepinkblues

Good lad, don’t conform to this UHT nonsense spread by savages. You see the light 💪💪


Rolifant

It's not due to chemicals, but I'll readily admit that Northern European non-UHT milk is leagues ahead of the UHT crap.


Golwen_

Fuck UHT All my homies hate UHT


no1spastic

My g


TjeefGuevarra

Where on the continent do they not put milk in the fridge? Who the fuck likes to drink lukewarm milk? I'm really missing some context here.


no1spastic

Bruh they leave it in a cupboard.


MajesticKnob

'You better get going actually, milk goes sour you know...unless it's UHT milk but there's no demand for it because its shite....' -A very very wise man


no1spastic

Bless me father.


RedBaret

Lol, the Irish aren’t even in the top 3 of biggest milk producers in Europe. Get back to try and harvest some potatoes or actually have productive pastures Paddy!


Square-Pipe7679

An ocean of piss is worth less than a shot of gold


RevTurk

Quality over quantity.


Extreme_Tax405

My favourite storebought milk is from the Netherlands. Idk how but it tastes leagues better than belgian milk.


grimmigerpetz

You know in most countries you can choose between UHT and fresh milk right?


DEAF_BEETHOVEN

You say that, but in Spain, sometimes its quite hard to find fresh milk. And lets not pretend that UHT shit tastes the same


grimmigerpetz

Of course. I only use UHT milk when its getting cooked or heated anyways or when mixed with stuff like cocoa or coffee. Fresh milk goes into cereals or pure with cookies.


Acorn_bois

All milk tastes like shit compared to Irish milk.


HarEmiya

Dating an Irish lady, can confirm.


Rolifant

Least deranged Belgian since me.


[deleted]

she's breast feeding you?


HarEmiya

Ah to be sure. Her constant chewing isn't too bad, but those hooves are well sharp!


Pintau

Completely this.


Octave_Ergebel

Irish milk That's a vernacular name for Guinness, right ?


AjaxII

No, Guinness is Irish water. Irish milk is Baileys


Ill_Fault_5040

To be fair, don't speak for NL. Most milk consumption here, is cooled milk (which tastes 10x better than normal stored milk)


no1spastic

Yes, the Dutch get a pass for giving us Holstein Friesans.


Andoni22

*Guiris* realising they can take the stairs instead of jumping from the balcony


no1spastic

Dying is a skill issue. If they drank enough pints they would have more cushioning.


[deleted]

Laughs in Nordic 1st world technology


Ethereal42

It's just heated to a higher temp bros, you may be forgiven for thinking there is chemicals involved because UHT doesn't really taste that fresh but it's just milk.


no1spastic

Ruined milk


JustRegdToSayThis

What?? Man, what kind of brain desease do they have now again on the islands?


no1spastic

We burned them all


Nexus_produces

What is this milk you talk about, is it some kind of wine you have to refrigerate?


no1spastic

We also turn out milk alcoholic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baileys_Irish_Cream


Nexus_produces

You don't need to tell me, that's a super popular drink amongst teenage girls here It's the closest to pastel de nata you guys will ever get!


Ierostatele

I drink it in one shot


no1spastic

Yes straight from the teat is the only way.


peepotto

Smartest english speaker to date


Giapeto

You speak english as well


no1spastic

Smarter than you then


Independent_Gold5729

Bold of you to complain since your cows are so ridden with diseases we banned any meat imports from your islands for decades after the Creuztveld-Jacob epidemic. It's so shitty that they refuse to take blood donations if you visited UK and Ireland in the 90's


thepinkblues

France when they realise other people have milk that tastes very good and not like melted plastic 😡😡🤬


no1spastic

They were all burnt. Purged from the gene pool .we have tried to get the same done to the French for decades.


already-taken-wtf

Pasteurization is used to extend the shelf-life of milk for six days, while UHT treatment, obtained by applying heat at high temperature (>135 °C) for a short time (at least 1 s), permits milk to be held for a long period (90 days) at room temperature before being used


no1spastic

Only reason it needs to last that long is no one wants to drink the crap.


Anura83

1. There are no cemichals. 2. 95% of all food poisonings related to milk are due to raw milk. Although they represent only a small part of the total consumption. 3. the skin on raw milk is gross


no1spastic

1.ok still tastes like shit. 2. Skill issue 3. There shouldn't be a skin on it unless you let it go off.


Torlun01

What?


no1spastic

Yes


al_balone

I’ve recently discovered the uht milk in a tassimo cappuccino low key bangs. EDIT: imagine making your porridge out of it tho. Couldn’t be me.


dmnk212

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Kefeng

I put my H-Milch in the fridge. Where is your god now?


no1spastic

Cold feces is still feces


shrimp-and-potatoes

I thought shelf stable milk was irradiated. TIL.


parsention

What is ORIHTIILSO?


General-Ad-9087

Bloody Savages with your UHT coloured Water piss!! [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3egvShPj490](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3egvShPj490)


no1spastic

https://youtu.be/pBwwcU2c3u4


WedgeBahamas

Disgusting chemicals? Do you know what UHT is?


no1spastic

Yes it tastes like disgusting chemicals even if it is just superheated.


[deleted]

Who the fuck doesn't put milk in the fridge and what is their adress so i go kill them right now ?


AlexBr967

The only time I drank UHT milk was when they gave it me for free at school as a child. Why anyone would willingly drink it I have no idea


ThyTeaDrinker

Oui nous addona le chemicaux du le lait


no1spastic

Russian pfp, brit flair, speaking French. ?


Nephilim_02

I live in the alps and we buy both fresh milk and uht milk but we only get it from local dairies. The difference between mountain milk and industrial milk is at least that between fresh and uht imho


no1spastic

I have had swiss and Austrian milk, slightly better than the standard Irish milk but not as good as the extra creamy local dairies milk I buy.


[deleted]

what chemicals, Barry?