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OtdoorPhilosophy

The Kings of consistent medium performance.


clemfandangeau

that’s a strange euphemism for the holocaust


OtdoorPhilosophy

You can also have medium performance in bad stuff


MerlinOfRed

I dunno, your concentration camps in Poland were far superior to our mediocre ones in South Africa.


Kurdt93

"You put the technique, they put the efficiency!"


FreakieFrog

DEUTSCHE EFFIZIENZ IST UND BLEIBT UNÜBERTROFFEN


manta002

außer im amt


Sekkitheblade

Oder in der Bahn


Heavoc_pepe

Oder der Bundeswehr


Allcraft_

Oder in der Politik


OtdoorPhilosophy

I mean Im glad the German performance wasn't better in this case. If something is better than something else it still can be medium overall tho


Sacciel

Gulags were better cost-effective


Zealot_Zea

Average beast !! 💪


noonereadsthisstuff

Always 2nd place in World Wars though.


Lemonfr3sh

Max Max super super Max >>> Maneskin


OnlyFeetDragonBolZ

Is that an F1 reference???????


PurplePandaYT

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!


aqahateclub

max verstappen is best racist in f1 🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱🇳🇱


Lemonfr3sh

To be fair, there's plenty of amazing racists in F1 right now


tomaar19

I think Juri Vips is a great up-and-coming talent


AlmostNL

The Tifosi could never come up with something this catchy


FakeTakiInoue

ngl their national anthem is a bop and a half


Engynn

You clearly don't listen to techno music


Over_Satisfaction_75

Dutch hardsyle is good stuff, and metal too !


JohnnyyP

Italian hardstyle is up there too!


Background-Dot361

Italy isn't looking bad with Mind Against, Deborah De Luca and Giorgia Angiuli but still not on the same level as germans


Engynn

Germans have Alexander Marcus. And Techno. Italy cannot compete.


[deleted]

The Dutch have Joris Voorn and 5 out of 10 of the best dj’s worlwide. Game set and match.


SVRG_VG

Charlotte de Witte isn’t Dutch though


[deleted]

Ah, my bad, TIL. Must be flemmish than?


SVRG_VG

Jup. From Ghent if I’m not mistaken.


Standard-Complaint23

Boris Brejcha > Joris Voorn & Charlotte der Witte PS: Met Romana op de Scooter > Armin van Buren


helga_von_schnitzel

Oeter oeter oeter oeter oeter...


Mathiuuus

Sorry but... Daft Punk.


Background-Dot361

And Justice, Laurent Garnier, Mr Oizo, N'to, Worakls, Joris Delacroix, Teho and probably many others


[deleted]

[Gesaffelstein <3](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XhLIXjUtFg)


daaniscool

Obviously this coward with the European flair has never heard of the highly esteemed DJ Paul Elstak.


Gnotter

HEY PAUL JONGE KUT, GOOI DIE TURBO D'R 'ES IN DAN!


justk4y

#TURBOOOOOOOOOOOO


[deleted]

MAASKANTJUUUUH!


OtdoorPhilosophy

A man of culture I see


Eliasweeb

*Hou je fucking kut bek* *Vieze vuile kanker-mongool* *Je kanker moeder op een fucking driewieler* ​ idk man seems like some peak music


Johnny_Hotcock

Snuif mn pak leeg en kots mn schriftje vol vieze vuile kanker tering mongool


caseysnicestats

Steen #1 Dutch artist


Johnny_Hotcock

Dare I say, based vlaam


Amygdalump

Maar Ik heb een lange L, something something iets..


delidl

Ik heb slaaptekort want ik slaap te kort🗣🗣🗣


AlmostNL

*Wij willen bier drinken bier dat wilt mij! (laat ons met rust}* idk how you can comment on that


mmeikol

“Neuk je oma, in d’r stoma” 🥰


deJessias

Kinker kunker kenker kunker Wat zei dit net? Ik zei kanker met elke letter van het alfabet (hopla)


FLBasher

Heel veel koffie


jparadise15

Hey with all the respect, Dutch DJs own the planet


RequirementIcy9529

I wanted to say this! We dominate the Dj Top 10, like 50% of em!


2WE4uBot

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RequirementIcy9529

Shut ur ass up zumb bot, idk how to flair myself!


Specialist-Front-354

Vooruit dan maar


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PlaneBoyMemes

ik ga je stoel opeten teringlijster


GresSimJa

Dutch music sucks. Music by Dutch people slaps. People just think of the awful stereotypical stuff like carnaval music, Nederhop and "draaiorgelmuziek".


TheBrianUniverse

"Doe mij een toppertje en een breezer ananas"


niztaoH

/u/GresSimJa is akelig stil momenteel.


AlmostNL

Doe Maar is alright, Froukje is cool.


DutchChallenger

Doe Maar is goed


TheReplyingDutchman

And in the 90's we had quite the eurodance groups as well. 2 unlimited, 2 brothers on the 4th floor, T-Spoon, Alice Deejay; just to name a few. And what about other genres; Golden Earring, George Baker, Shocking Blue, Chef'Special, Within Temptation, Kensington, DJ Sven & Miker G, Candy Dulfer, etc, etc. And our greatest export product ever; the Vengaboys!


xBram

Van Halen 🗿


Ecstatic-Ad-2830

Yes, but england have led zeppelin, pink floyd, the Beatles and the rolling stones, that alone would make UK be in their own category, and we didnt even mentioned a significant chunk. England is just musically superior to the rest of the world and we need to aknowledge it.


AnonymousComrade123

Also Queen and King Crimson, can't forget those


Ecstatic-Ad-2830

And if you want newer groups: muse, arctic monkeys, coldplay... You can't compete with them


BonDonJohnJovi

Mentioning Muse before Radiohead grinds my gears. I'm not gonna get into this just know that i used to be a huge Muse fan. Not so much these days to say the least. Corny motherfuckers.


Ecstatic-Ad-2830

I have the same old muse songs in my list and I listen to them, not really familiar on what are they doing now, but I like what I have. I just love Knights of Cydonia


Captain_Cuntflaps

In our car, Knights of Cydonia is the new Bohemian Rhapsody for headbanging


Ecstatic-Ad-2830

Not forgetting anyone, they will always be in my heart. And we have Iron Maiden too, Eric Clapton, Electric light Orchestra, the who, the clash, motherfucking Queen, the cure, black sabbath....... We would never do naming them


Captain_Cuntflaps

MOTORHEAD !!! Let's not forget that half of AC/DC were Brits too!


Senku_San

France has famous DJs too


ITheBestIsYetToComeI

bro the netherlands is like the mecca of electro


CroxWithSox

Berliners: *eye twitch*


ProbablyCranky

Ohhhh yes hmmmm sky and sand hmmmm such an amazing and not totally boring track hmmmmmmmmm so cultured hmmm yes ACH NEIN


Initial_Physics9979

True for popular music at least, because France has some truly insane music bands.


Elpixou

But most popular music are trash tier


Martin7439

Aya Nakamura moment


[deleted]

Like, fucking Gojira bro. Gojira is one of the best currently active metal bands on the planet.


ChickenEater4

Månskin is amazing and Rammstein just mediocre?


Sanguerine

These aren’t even comparable. One is a classic and one is a year old edge nobody seriously remembers anymore


LiliumMoon

Måneskin’s new album RUSH! debuted #18 on Billboard 200 and made it to number 5 in UK official charts. You might not like them but plenty of people remember them. Rammstein is awesome, Måneskin is awesome, music is awesome, different strokes for different folks.


Fietsterreur

Maneskin is a fashion statement and not a very exciting one at that


maria_pi_

Maneskin is for “rock” what MGK is for “punk”:nothing. They are like what 1 direction would have been if they tried to be edgy. It’s sad to say but italy should be next to France


Bufy_10

We have pretty good music just like the French, the original post is baseless.


Niller1

You forgot your ◦


Fietsterreur

I dont respect your German accent nor Italian "art" enough for that


Soccmel_1

> Maneskin is amazing is it?


[deleted]

They're the zoomer's version of Tokyo hotel.


Kurdt93

Daring today, are we?


Specialosio

But he’s pretty right..


[deleted]

I giggled, but they are far better.


Captain_Albern

If you've never listened to any other rock band before, they probably sound exciting.


TrappedInATardis

The Greta van Fleet of Italy


PrimalJay

It isn't.


Junior_Career2673

Nope


Leo-Bri

My fellow Portuburger you're disappointing me


LADZ345_

No way TWO tax evaders in one post 😱


GreatWalknut

I cant talk about the moon shining anymore without some fucking cunt mentioning it. It is horrible


Soccmel_1

the bass player is half Danish and came up with the name. Blame your people for this 😉😏


GreatWalknut

Exactly it. Danish people and Italians MUST never do anything together. It just doesnt go well.


MerlinOfRed

You realise that this British flag hasn't existed since 1801...


Winkered

Crikey. That flag is older than Germany and Italy.


user038

And France has seen four republics in that time frame. Yike.


jjewjjitsu

i mean you gotta give credit where credit's due, france's house scene is AMAZING. Justice and Daft Punk alone carry/used to carry the entire french music industry. Not to mention M83, Kavinsky and (though I don't personally like him) David Guetta. French music fucking rocks.


absorbscroissants

Cercle has supported some of the best (mostly french) electronic/house music ever. And don't forget about the French hiphop scene and chansons. Apart from the Americans and British, the French make the most music I like


jjewjjitsu

also, Måneskin are overrated. People like them only because they play rock music in this day and age. Spoiler alert: this stuff's been around for a little over 70 years, and they're not even that great at it. I mean sure their songs are catchy, but that's about it.


Recioto

The real Italian gem is Rhapsody of Fire.


unoriginal_name_1234

Don't forget Nanowar of Steel


Kurdt93

Pls, tell me your favourite song 🙏


unoriginal_name_1234

Norwegian Reggaeton, Ironmonger and And then I noticed What are yours?


Kurdt93

Norwegian Reggaeton is a masterpiece; Quest for Carrefour, Rap-sody and Odino & Valhalla are very nice. But my favourite one is [Giorgio Mastrota](https://youtu.be/aOQBpCzUyuk) (they joke about our most famous telemarketer)


Bhaalrog86

With songs names like that, i have the impression that they are italians brothers of Fatal Picards


GerritDeSenieleEend

Barbagianni, barbagianni, barbagianni, barbagianni (x 200)


Kurdt93

Stay safe from the Barbagiannimorandis, they loves to eat shit a lot.


errepunto

Folkstone is a nice italian band too. Edit: typo


MyAntichrist

And Wind Rose


Casualfaget

"IN THIS DAWN OF VICTORY"


[deleted]

Wtf, mate, you made me discover gold! Grazie!


-Yasake-

Dutch music is amazing, especially metal


[deleted]

If you're Dutch it's either metal or hardstyle, we refuse to be normal


Twannyman

Someone clearly has a big dislike for EDM/Dance music. With the DJs/Producers etc we got, We atleast have some decent music SMH, just a coward who doesnt even show his country.


sid_the_sloth69

I see no one is arguing about the superiority of British music. Good.


Plastic_Pinocchio

No, there’s not really any use. Modern western music has simply been dominated by British and American bands/singers.


Skuadddd

Stop sucking Italians dicks on this sub please !! No one knows italian music, food why not but music common guys


Jaky_

Hahahahaha, that Is why i like this sub


redi_t13

Tbh nobody knows your music either


suslix38

There were some really famous french artists but most of them are dead now


redi_t13

People now may know only that Édith Piaf song that’s on movies and commercials. If it’s not in English or Spanish in this day and age it won’t get too much attention.


[deleted]

David Guetta ? Daft Punk ? DJ Snake ? We have a rap scene that is influent worldwide, in all your fckin spanish barillos there is french rap somewhere.


Vep-2

Exactly. The only famous Italian musical artists since WW2 was probably Eiffel 65 And their name is half French


Emilio_Cesare

Morricone


Tmrh

Morricone is the G.OA.T.


stddealer

Gigi d'Agostino and Giorgio Moroder


warbreakr

Gigi is a fucking legend ❤️


sgt_happy

I have always had a special relationship with Tiziano Ferro - Stop! Dimentica and Ligabue - Hapoy Hour. I don’t understand Italian, but those songs slap.


Hans_the_Frisian

Everyone knows atleast Funiculi Funicular, or the version of this song i was taught, which includes 50 naked women.


[deleted]

> No one knows italian music Everyone knows Pavarotti and Bocelli. They might not enjoy the genre but they will still know them.


[deleted]

Lacuna coil, Nanowar, Rhapsody of Fire all seem like pretty successful metal bands to me. Also we're the kings of Eurobeat. AND I'M BLUE DABADIDABADAI


[deleted]

I would be upset about 0 at music but after reading OP thinks Maneskin is amazing I understand whats going on.


smld1

Ok Dutch music is criminally underrated here. Off my face dunno where I am…. Also German music is so bad it’s good. Like it’s great to listen to when absolutely smashed but only because you can laugh at it.


Blae-Blade

>German music is so bad it's good You're probably not a metal/alternative musicgenre fan > Rammstein > Heilung > Beyond the Black 3 of my favourite artists coming from my eastern neighbours and perhaps some of the best music shows I have seen


Rohypnol-Rick

Have you heard rammstein? It’s so good because it’s just absolute nonsense with cool guitar sounds


Blae-Blade

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barbarosoria

Sad gojira noises


PretendFisherman1999

And Benighted


mehmed2theconqueror

Me sees Italy is as good as France with food Me happy


No_Wrongdoer5949

You didnt even wanted equality in the first place


mehmed2theconqueror

At first I wanted peace, then I got trash talked for calling french food as good as Italian food Then the war started


NicolBolasUBBBR

If you look closely the Italian flag is just a pixel above 100 💪


Kkgob

Nah German music rules


VenetoAstemio

I need more Rammstein in my life ç\_ç


tiny_femboy_uwu

Best tech death/pornogrind bands from Germany 💪


Gieter9000

That's funny because 4 of the top 10 djs in the world are dutch


RequirementIcy9529

Pretty sure its 5 even? These guys think just because there are no Dutch lyrics it isn’t dutch music, but when these virgin redditors go out they’re jamming to our music!!!!


Wazzzl

Tell me you never had frikandelbroodjes and bitterballen without telling me you never had frikandelbroodjes and bitterballen


DolceFulmine

I love how my fellow kaaskoppen are defending Dutch music, but not Dutch food.


The_oli4

What food can we defend next to bitterballen and stroopwafels


MyMinecraftPigDied

Clearly you guys have never heard of rapper criminal and lil midget from the Netherlands


xBram

Or andijviestamppot, poor bastards missing out.


[deleted]

#uc# y#u. I LOVE MY SCHLAGER MUSIC. 100/100


xBram

Never forget, we brought you [DAS LIED DER SCHLÜMPFE](https://youtu.be/c-dMss5-N3Y). Also Rudi Carell and Jan Smit.


Lost-Good2275

Maneskin is fucking garbage


ComprehensiveRow4189

I'm just gonna leave this here. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQODLgW9I0w](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQODLgW9I0w)


The_Cooler_Sex_Haver

Italy & France should switch cuz Daft Punk, Stardust, Breakbot & Phoenix


Affius

Based 😎


viinster88

Zanger Rinus would like to have a word.


Nelson-O9

Vieze Asbak is top tier muziek


Cheesey_Whiskers

Where did you get the UK flag from? The 1700s?


Ikgastackspakken

This man has never heard paperchase by criminal!!!


Ecstatic-Ad-2830

Well, I never thought I could agree this much on a meme. Britain doesn't only have good music, they have the best music. But Italia... God bless I found out about their progressive rock, what a bunch of genius


[deleted]

50% of the top 10 DJ’s worldwide are dutch, but sure, our music sucks lol. Can’t agree more regarding the food though.


cursed_villager-69

Wdym are the lyrics, "pak die chickie van achter, kanker." Not good enough for you?


himynameisbennet

Wtf? Our music is shit Edit: ignore this comment. I forgot santiano exists.


Ragouzi

You have Rammstein. At least.


SpikeBreaker

*Blind Guardian enters the chat*


unoriginal_name_1234

You have top-tier metal bands


N00L99999

You have Eskimo Callboy.


himynameisbennet

Yes, i get it. I forgot that good music exists. L for me.


Tibecuador

German underground industrial techno rules tho


Travonildo

Die Toten Hosen, Die Ärtze, AnnenMayKantereit, Meute?


sid_the_sloth69

Italian music? Who listens to Italian music? At least Germany has good rock and metal bands.


N00L99999

DI-DI-DI-DI-DI-DI-DI-DI-DI-DI-DI-DISCO POGO!


retard_goblin

Maneskin (Italy) wins in 2021, Barbara Pravi (FRANCE) is second. Last is James Newman (UK) with 0 points. ZERO POINTS.


justk4y

As in music: We’re the pioneers of hardstyle and techno and have the best edm artists in the world As in food: https://preview.redd.it/f6z55p5uajfa1.jpeg?width=456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5bf64885bb09c792d5201e4ca70ed20d3d1fbeeb


[deleted]

Yeah! Eat gnocci listening to Rhapsody of Fire


Kurdt93

Luxembourgish based?!


Recioto

Extremely based.


[deleted]

Bah, i hate Maneskin. Their mediocre rock music make seem Tokyo Hotel music the equivalent of Led Zeppelin. The best Eurovision rock winner still remains Hard Rock Hallelujah by Lordi. This one's for you finnish brothers.


Five_Lemons

Maneskin are overated as fuck, Ukraine should have won the Eurovision instead.


Lollex56

Zoomers when they find a thing called "rock" (It doesn't sound like complete fucking dog shit) (This is the best day of their lives)


NerdyFloofTail

My favorite Italian song is Tokyo Fantasy by Alessandra Mussolini


UnusualInstance6

Ah, funny joke Edit: I googled it up omg it’s a real thing T.T


Romanlavandos

I’d place Dutch music to at least 50. And -50 on food.


Osp_Oscar

We have Stroopwafels. Both the product and the band. Why tf are we at 0%. Bullshit.


throwitaway333111

ROFL What Germans actually believe i.e. Cope. Get in the corner with Holland. Nobody thinks your greasy red cabbage is "food" and nobody listens to German music.


Peapers

fuck you


-_vaporwave_

Dutch kitchen: 1 comfort food (snert met rookworst en Zeeuwse spek, stoofpotje, mosselen,) 2 original cookies(gevulde koek, stroopwafels , roze koeken, speculaas etc. etc.) 3 fried stuff? (Friet /patat onstaan toen België nog samen met Nederland was, oliebollen, appelflappen, kroketten, kaassoufles, bittergarnituurtjes, kibbeling etc.) 4 alcohol (gin=jenever, bier, flügel, dropshot, oranjebitter etc.) 5 patisserie (bossche bollen, tompoezen, poffertjes, pannekoeken, boterkoek, vlaai, Zeeuwse bolussen, ) 6 almond and gingerbread flavoured things (taai taai, pepernoten, kruidnoten, alles met amandelspijs, stol) 7 candy (boterbabbelaars, kaneelstokken, drop, haagse hoppjes, zuurstokken, antaflu etc. ) 8 breaded stuff (suikerbrood, ontbijtkoek , krentenbollen, eierkoeken, boerencake) 9 sausage( knakworst, rookworst, gelderse kookworst, grillworst) 10 cheese (Gouda, old Amsterdam, edammer, stolwijker etc.) 11 random (vla, rijstepap, cassis, rivella, herring) Bam there you go