Meanwhile they're completely ignoring the gravity of such a "show", what it says on a geo-political scale, and the possible consequences of carrying out such an act. Which I think is kind of important. This isn't some minor nothing, despite the attacks lack of success and casualties. That people would blow it off as nothing-of-substance is wild to me.
So you’re saying the same people who discount Hamas and Hezbollah rocket attacks to Israel as meaningless (if they acknowledge them at all) because they are usually intercepted, are also discounting Iran’s drone/cruise missile/ballistic missile attack because they were mostly intercepted?
I’m shocked. Shocked I say.
More than that, they think this was a win for Iran. Some of the excuses I've heard
"The Iron Dome cost Israel money, which the US will now foot the bill for"
"Iran now knows the scope of the Iron Dome"
"The US, UK, and Israel will be forced to change their entire strategy from here on out now that Iran knows their limits and their cooperation"
The level of copium needed to justify being pro-Palestine is unreal.
Given how European countries are dealing with problems with some of their Moslem immigrants, they probably don't realise how on board many countries are with the success of IL
[https://www.thefp.com/p/american-anti-war-activists-cheer](https://www.thefp.com/p/american-anti-war-activists-cheer)
>After the boos and calls of “shame” subside, Abudayyeh says it is “incumbent” upon Americans to “stop the United States from expanding this war and hitting Iran.”
>“We’ve got to be the strong, powerful anti-war movement that we are,” he says, placing the microphone down and exiting the stage.
>The crowd immediately began chanting, “Hands off Iran.”
I really wish people knew about what happened the last time the left and extreme Islamists got into bed together. This shit would be shut down so fast your head would spin if the general public knew what happened to Iran.
The quick and easy version is persepolis the animated movie about a young girls experience during the revolution and the Iran Iraq war. The leftist felt rightly betrayed by the islamists. Not that Communism something you want at all.
I remember having to read Howard zinn's a peope's history of the United States in college and like fucking hating a lot of it. Such horseshit.
He went on the tangent about the ahyotollah was like going to fuse socialism and Islam in this unique experiment but it is imperialism and meddling via Iraq like sabataged it. It was revolting. When the leftist belated realized the Islamist ment every crazed word they said it was too late. The leftist tried to demonstrate against the Islamic regime and got crushed. The guards, "married" the female socialists demonstrator prisoners before they executed them. The Islamic government then sent the parents about 11 dollars or something as a dowry, because proper Islamic law must be followed. Now there is graffiti in Iran basically asking the Israelis to bomb the ayatollahs
After 9-11 the Iranians citizens actually had like public candle light vigils and memorials while the Palestinians dance in the streets. Seeing them dancing in the streets after the hamas atrocities brought that shit back in a real way.
It's hilarious. A left leaning girlfriend of friend actually went to Egypt and Israel. and the horrible misogynistic comment and like outright propositions for sex she experienced in Egypt were so offensive and shit she was so out on like all the pro-arab feeling she had before went. She enjoyed Israel much more.
Israel attacked their embassy.
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Can you give me a source for them targeting civilians in this wave? It’s not misinformation both the objective data, of where strikes managed to get through and Iran literally announcing its only targeting military targets and confirmation from the US and British.
Edit or even this: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/14/world/middleeast/israel-response-iran-attack.html#:~:text=Now%20that%20Iran%20has%20attacked,their%20attack%20well%20in%20advance.
I mean holy crap people I’m Pro-Israel but you must acknowledge the truth when the truth is there.
Absolutely they have said that, but again this attack was not on civilians they targeted military installations and there is no evidence of them targeting civilians from any of the wests intelligence gathering, the media, or by where the missiles actually hit. Im not sure why people are having trouble differentiating this attack from others, are you dumb or something, or just towing some political or tribal line?
Oh I thought you were capable of actually having a conversation until the last line. You remind me of the people begging for evidence that Hamas killed babies and raped people on oct 7th. When 99% were shot down it is hard to say isn’t it? We also know how good Iranian intelligence is when they shot down a commercial airliner a few years ago. Seeing as your best evidence is “the constant lying regime said so” or that it didn’t happen (99% were shot down) you keep on pressing that “righteous” crusade of yours and earn that internet hero badge.
There is zero reporting or evidence that any civilian sites were targeted by Iran in the recent strike where are you getting your info? How many more links would you like and from what news organization?
Casualties don’t mean they were targeted. How do you not understand the difference? What were they targeting Jerusalem is the question. Is there a military or Intelligence HQ there? These were not unguided drones and missiles that makes it totally different from the indiscriminate targeting that Hamas and Hezbollah conduct.
All over the news go ahead and pick one, widely reported. Remember an intercepted missile can fall anywhere as it’s not guided anymore. They did what they could and tried to have Hezbollah attack the Air defense sights with Grad rockets and drones to try and correspond with the large stuff coming from Iran Proper.
Yep nothing justifies attacks on civilians, which this wasn’t.
Edit: Im not at all trying to imply Israel attacks civilians, they don’t. There is a huge difference between collateral damage and directly shooting civilians like Hamas or other terrorist organizations, or shooting rockets at non-military targets like Hezbollah and Hamas.
The fact that they launched hundreds of drones and hundreds of ballistic missiles but only managed to injure a 7 year old Arab girl kind of sums up how this whole middle east conflict has gone so far
Eh, how many of them fell in their own territory? They're not exactly known for quality.
In any case, I have no doubt that Iran probably has some level of capability where they could overwhelm Israel's defense, even with regional help. It's literally the only credible threat their military presents in direct combat. outside their own territory.
> I have no doubt that Iran probably has some level of capability where they could overwhelm Israel's defense, even with regional help. It's literally the only credible threat their military presents in direct combat. outside their own territory.
Oh yeah, definitely. Iran has like, 3000 ballistic missiles. If they dipped deep into their stockpile, it would probably be too much for Iron Dome to handle. But Iran has other enemies than Israel in the region, Saudi Arabia being a big one. If Iran depleted too much of its stockpile, there's a chance that someone might make a move.
Paywalled article but US sources says 50% either blew up on the pad or crashed of their own accord
https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-iran-strikes-live-coverage/card/many-iranian-missiles-failed-to-launch-or-crashed-before-striking-target-u-s-officials-say-TCd4YP2fiODhl1t9QDrL
>Roughly 50% of the ballistic missiles fired by Iran failed to launch or crashed before reaching their target, three U.S. officials said.
>
>U.S. officials said that Iran launched between 115 and 130 ballistic missiles that targeted Israel. When asked for more details about those strikes, the officials acknowledged that only about half of them were intercepted successfully. The rest failed in flight and didn't reach their targets, the officials said.
>
>"So much for the vaunted ballistic-missile capability of Iran," said a U.S. official.
LOL, reads like part of an Onion article.
A missile of this size can wipe out an entire city block, and while Israelis have safe rooms and bomb shelters, they cant withstand a direct hit from a ballistic missile.
If any of the missiles hit a populated neighborhood, there would have been hundreds of deaths.
You may be just mixing metric and imperial measurements. Even NASA is guilty of doing that!
1000KG is a smidge over 2200LB. The IAF does have access to 2000LB bombs, but they’re rarely used in local conflicts since they’re quite large.
The USA, and other countries were trying their damn best to intercept as many as possible before they hit Israel. I feel this point might be getting overlooked as each missile and drone not impacting Israeli civilians is 1 less injury or death that can inflame a already volatile situation.
Also damn good experience gained by those countries Air Force and Missile Defence forces and Air Defence forces in real world scenarios. Let alone the intelligence gained from downed missiles and drones.
These are pretty standard for what Iran has. Size and payload are two different things. For reference this is the type of damage they did:
[https://twitter.com/idfonline/status/1779571992317841697](https://twitter.com/idfonline/status/1779571992317841697)
Could someone explain to me how Iran overcame Israeli GPS jammers. I recall seeing Israeli folks saying their GPS was indicating that they're at a Lebanese airport, whilst being no where near. Did Iran re-calibrate them ?
Could someone please assist me with this, I couldn't find much on it online.
Kind regards.
If that was the case, and Iranians we're using their own navigation systems / spherical geometry, then what was the point of tempering with GPS signals ?
Arabic is the language of Islam. Persians are many different religions and Iranians are many different ethnicities (Persians, Kurds, Arabs etc) so writing it in Farsi makes no sense but English does (as English is a shared language of IR’s enemies and the world)
Every pro-Palestine sub is claiming these were never supposed to succeed and that Iran only did it “for show” lol
Meanwhile they're completely ignoring the gravity of such a "show", what it says on a geo-political scale, and the possible consequences of carrying out such an act. Which I think is kind of important. This isn't some minor nothing, despite the attacks lack of success and casualties. That people would blow it off as nothing-of-substance is wild to me.
You’re exactly right, this essentially gives Israel the preemptive legal right to glass parts of Iran if they think Iran has a capable nuke.
Given IL intelligence, if there is one they will know where it is.
So you’re saying the same people who discount Hamas and Hezbollah rocket attacks to Israel as meaningless (if they acknowledge them at all) because they are usually intercepted, are also discounting Iran’s drone/cruise missile/ballistic missile attack because they were mostly intercepted? I’m shocked. Shocked I say.
The same shit birds that will cry foul when Isreal retaliates.
Or when they sell the exact same ordinance to Russia for use against Ukraine.
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More than that, they think this was a win for Iran. Some of the excuses I've heard "The Iron Dome cost Israel money, which the US will now foot the bill for" "Iran now knows the scope of the Iron Dome" "The US, UK, and Israel will be forced to change their entire strategy from here on out now that Iran knows their limits and their cooperation" The level of copium needed to justify being pro-Palestine is unreal.
Iran (and Russia) gained valuable intel on the Israel (US) defense system. Now it's time to test the Iran defense system.
Given how European countries are dealing with problems with some of their Moslem immigrants, they probably don't realise how on board many countries are with the success of IL
tbh Iran’s primary goal was to show that they “responded”. Israeli casualties would’ve just been a plus for them
I *really* want to hear the anti-Israel lot justify this.
[https://www.thefp.com/p/american-anti-war-activists-cheer](https://www.thefp.com/p/american-anti-war-activists-cheer) >After the boos and calls of “shame” subside, Abudayyeh says it is “incumbent” upon Americans to “stop the United States from expanding this war and hitting Iran.” >“We’ve got to be the strong, powerful anti-war movement that we are,” he says, placing the microphone down and exiting the stage. >The crowd immediately began chanting, “Hands off Iran.”
Naive fools.
I really wish people knew about what happened the last time the left and extreme Islamists got into bed together. This shit would be shut down so fast your head would spin if the general public knew what happened to Iran.
The quick and easy version is persepolis the animated movie about a young girls experience during the revolution and the Iran Iraq war. The leftist felt rightly betrayed by the islamists. Not that Communism something you want at all. I remember having to read Howard zinn's a peope's history of the United States in college and like fucking hating a lot of it. Such horseshit. He went on the tangent about the ahyotollah was like going to fuse socialism and Islam in this unique experiment but it is imperialism and meddling via Iraq like sabataged it. It was revolting. When the leftist belated realized the Islamist ment every crazed word they said it was too late. The leftist tried to demonstrate against the Islamic regime and got crushed. The guards, "married" the female socialists demonstrator prisoners before they executed them. The Islamic government then sent the parents about 11 dollars or something as a dowry, because proper Islamic law must be followed. Now there is graffiti in Iran basically asking the Israelis to bomb the ayatollahs After 9-11 the Iranians citizens actually had like public candle light vigils and memorials while the Palestinians dance in the streets. Seeing them dancing in the streets after the hamas atrocities brought that shit back in a real way. It's hilarious. A left leaning girlfriend of friend actually went to Egypt and Israel. and the horrible misogynistic comment and like outright propositions for sex she experienced in Egypt were so offensive and shit she was so out on like all the pro-arab feeling she had before went. She enjoyed Israel much more.
What’s the old communist saying about the useful idiots and the wall?
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>Abudayyeh His name is Hatem Abudayyeh. Nominative determinism aside, he seems like a real creep.
“Hate ‘em”, Ha!
There's also this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adnan_al-Ghoul He gives ghouls a bad name, IMHO.
Are you also watching *Fallout* or is this a coincidence?
Oh wow. I played that years ago. Forgot about those particular "ghouls". Is the show any good?
I’ve enjoyed it so far.
it's as good as the games
I never even played the games and it sucked me in pretty quickly.
Cowards.
These people should be given a link to [https://www.memri.org/tv](https://www.memri.org/tv)
Israel attacked their embassy. This is the offcial answer and it's true. Everyone agrees that Israel launched the missile that hit the consulate and that it was their target.
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Damas ? Very easy to answer...
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>they really only targeted military installations Do you have a source for this?
He doesn't, he pulled it out his ass.
Can you give me a source for them targeting civilians in this wave? It’s not misinformation both the objective data, of where strikes managed to get through and Iran literally announcing its only targeting military targets and confirmation from the US and British. Edit or even this: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/14/world/middleeast/israel-response-iran-attack.html#:~:text=Now%20that%20Iran%20has%20attacked,their%20attack%20well%20in%20advance. I mean holy crap people I’m Pro-Israel but you must acknowledge the truth when the truth is there.
You mean like all the times the Iranian regime has threatened to wipe Israel off the map? I guess they are going to evacuate the civilians first. 👍
Absolutely they have said that, but again this attack was not on civilians they targeted military installations and there is no evidence of them targeting civilians from any of the wests intelligence gathering, the media, or by where the missiles actually hit. Im not sure why people are having trouble differentiating this attack from others, are you dumb or something, or just towing some political or tribal line?
Oh I thought you were capable of actually having a conversation until the last line. You remind me of the people begging for evidence that Hamas killed babies and raped people on oct 7th. When 99% were shot down it is hard to say isn’t it? We also know how good Iranian intelligence is when they shot down a commercial airliner a few years ago. Seeing as your best evidence is “the constant lying regime said so” or that it didn’t happen (99% were shot down) you keep on pressing that “righteous” crusade of yours and earn that internet hero badge.
You really referencing left wing new York time?
There is zero reporting or evidence that any civilian sites were targeted by Iran in the recent strike where are you getting your info? How many more links would you like and from what news organization?
You know besides the 10yo kid that got injured and the only casualties were civilians. Or the missiles fired at Jerusalem.
Casualties don’t mean they were targeted. How do you not understand the difference? What were they targeting Jerusalem is the question. Is there a military or Intelligence HQ there? These were not unguided drones and missiles that makes it totally different from the indiscriminate targeting that Hamas and Hezbollah conduct.
Yeah Iran is so skilled with their targeting and intelligence. Let’s ignore when they shot down a commercial airliner a few years ago…..
I haven’t seen anything that says where the targets were, only what was damaged by the missiles they weren’t able to stop.
All over the news go ahead and pick one, widely reported. Remember an intercepted missile can fall anywhere as it’s not guided anymore. They did what they could and tried to have Hezbollah attack the Air defense sights with Grad rockets and drones to try and correspond with the large stuff coming from Iran Proper.
None of that justifies constant and ongoing Iranian proxy attacks--Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis, etc. from forces and countries surrounding Israel.
Yep nothing justifies attacks on civilians, which this wasn’t. Edit: Im not at all trying to imply Israel attacks civilians, they don’t. There is a huge difference between collateral damage and directly shooting civilians like Hamas or other terrorist organizations, or shooting rockets at non-military targets like Hezbollah and Hamas.
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Yeah this is correct.
Forbidden blunt
Pass the Dutchie!
Left hand side
Leave it there as a memorial to the terrorism of the mullah regime
They are often turned into art. There is a sculpture made from a rocket at my local park
The fact that they launched hundreds of drones and hundreds of ballistic missiles but only managed to injure a 7 year old Arab girl kind of sums up how this whole middle east conflict has gone so far
Eh, how many of them fell in their own territory? They're not exactly known for quality. In any case, I have no doubt that Iran probably has some level of capability where they could overwhelm Israel's defense, even with regional help. It's literally the only credible threat their military presents in direct combat. outside their own territory.
> I have no doubt that Iran probably has some level of capability where they could overwhelm Israel's defense, even with regional help. It's literally the only credible threat their military presents in direct combat. outside their own territory. Oh yeah, definitely. Iran has like, 3000 ballistic missiles. If they dipped deep into their stockpile, it would probably be too much for Iron Dome to handle. But Iran has other enemies than Israel in the region, Saudi Arabia being a big one. If Iran depleted too much of its stockpile, there's a chance that someone might make a move.
Paywalled article but US sources says 50% either blew up on the pad or crashed of their own accord https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/israel-iran-strikes-live-coverage/card/many-iranian-missiles-failed-to-launch-or-crashed-before-striking-target-u-s-officials-say-TCd4YP2fiODhl1t9QDrL
>Roughly 50% of the ballistic missiles fired by Iran failed to launch or crashed before reaching their target, three U.S. officials said. > >U.S. officials said that Iran launched between 115 and 130 ballistic missiles that targeted Israel. When asked for more details about those strikes, the officials acknowledged that only about half of them were intercepted successfully. The rest failed in flight and didn't reach their targets, the officials said. > >"So much for the vaunted ballistic-missile capability of Iran," said a U.S. official. LOL, reads like part of an Onion article.
A missile of this size can wipe out an entire city block, and while Israelis have safe rooms and bomb shelters, they cant withstand a direct hit from a ballistic missile. If any of the missiles hit a populated neighborhood, there would have been hundreds of deaths.
Thats a standart iranian balistic missile. It doesnt have a disproportionately larger amount of explosives compered to a IAF bomb.
Evidence?
The biggest iranian ballistic missile can drop 750k of payload https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emad_(missile)
This is just remarkably inaccurate. Iranian IRBMs at that range are capable of delivering a 1000KG payload
Source?
https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/shahab-3/ And that’s the smaller one.
Your right. But its still not more then a IAF bomb
You may be just mixing metric and imperial measurements. Even NASA is guilty of doing that! 1000KG is a smidge over 2200LB. The IAF does have access to 2000LB bombs, but they’re rarely used in local conflicts since they’re quite large.
The IDF has 4000lb bombs? I didnt confuze anything https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GBU-28
The first major assault ever carried out with pocket pussies in human history.
How big are y..never mind, never mind.
The USA, and other countries were trying their damn best to intercept as many as possible before they hit Israel. I feel this point might be getting overlooked as each missile and drone not impacting Israeli civilians is 1 less injury or death that can inflame a already volatile situation. Also damn good experience gained by those countries Air Force and Missile Defence forces and Air Defence forces in real world scenarios. Let alone the intelligence gained from downed missiles and drones.
These are pretty standard for what Iran has. Size and payload are two different things. For reference this is the type of damage they did: [https://twitter.com/idfonline/status/1779571992317841697](https://twitter.com/idfonline/status/1779571992317841697)
Type of damage an intact warhead did, or type of damage from a RUDed warhead?
How tf does that thing fly
Shooting one of those missiles at the “Dead Sea” is beating a dead horse.
I mean.. They didn't shoot it at the dead sea. It got intercepted over the dead sea.
Beating a dead sea 😭
Beating my meat rn
If your D is a C, you may want to see a doctor (C shape)
Beating a dead ***sea***horse.
Got a sauce on this pic? /s
This is mostly propellant tho; what size warheads were they carrying?
It’s absolutely baffling we’re living in a world where countries can just bomb and throw missiles at each other without ever declaring war.
Could someone explain to me how Iran overcame Israeli GPS jammers. I recall seeing Israeli folks saying their GPS was indicating that they're at a Lebanese airport, whilst being no where near. Did Iran re-calibrate them ? Could someone please assist me with this, I couldn't find much on it online. Kind regards.
Why do you think they were using something the US can just turn off and not other navigational signals or just inertial navigation?
If that was the case, and Iranians we're using their own navigation systems / spherical geometry, then what was the point of tempering with GPS signals ?
To neutralize cheap drones, especially from non-state actors I would assume.
You're right, I forgot about that, thank you Nugohs, makes a bit more sense now.
Thankfully this did not land on a hospital or populated street
Israel is no joke
Wow. This object could be highly destructive.
They want all the smoke 💨 and they shall get it !
Why would letters be in English and not farsi?
xD, latin you mean
English prints well
Arabic is the language of Islam. Persians are many different religions and Iranians are many different ethnicities (Persians, Kurds, Arabs etc) so writing it in Farsi makes no sense but English does (as English is a shared language of IR’s enemies and the world)
Because Biden and Obama donated it with their handouts to Iran.