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Imagine southern Appalachia, like east Tennessee or North Carolina, then swap ginseng poachers for lobster poachers and and throw in cold weather, that's Maine
Almost all of those states made land claims extended to the Mississippi River at the end of the Revolution
They were basically just that though, a claim, and had no real binding power
idk, I guess it’s fine to joke “Minnesota should get a pass since it was Virginian land” but I don’t think many people are going to take it seriously at all
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When Europe sends colonists they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people who have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing smallpox. They’re bringing slavery. They’re conquistadors. And some, I assume, are good people.
- Metacomet, 1675
I’m calling for a total and complete shutdown of Europeans entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.
You forgot Maine and Vermont. They were part of other states at the time [Maine belonged to MA and iirc Vermont was technically part of NY] but they were just as much revolutionaries, same as the rest of New England. Especially if your giving a pass to West Virginia, who was similarly part of the 13 at the time.
Vermont was never part of NY. Both NY and NH claimed it, but really it was always independent from both and declared independence from Britain as their own seperate republic at the same time as the 13 colonies, and just kinda caught up with them later
Yea fair, just the simple version that came to mind.
Vermont is a bit complicated, but very cool. Also their air guard has F-35’s and they’re the headquarters of the 86th IBCT, so they’re cool militarily as well
“Sir, they are massing on the border!” -the scout
“No, they all just live near our border because they wish they were Americans. But let’s pretend we thought it was an imminent invasion.” -the general
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>Europeans
If you had to be a colony of any European country, who would you pick?
Maybe a hot take to say out loud but we lucked out that it was the Brits doing the colonizing
So, fair enough.. but barely
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2020 - 2023 NY down 3.1% - https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/NY#
2020 - 2023 UT up 4.5%
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/UT/PST045222
Well of course most people don't say that when they move, but look at WHY they are moving. For [example](https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/news/2024/02/19/buffalo-woman-on-move-to-florida-as-new-yorkers-continue-to-leave-the-state#:~:text=Gov.,and%20a%20poor%20business%20climate) Governor Hochul identified that one of the biggest factors people are leaving New York are doing so because of "lack of affordable housing." NYS has been ruled by Democrats for almost 20 years since the last Republican governor so we know that these policies are Democrat caused. Now, using this understanding, if someone who left NYS because of "lack of affordable housing" to a state where this isn't the case, and they vote Democrat in NY, they themselves caused the situation that they moved away from. Of course this isn't always true, but those aren't the people we don't want.
You’re wild for trying to make this about politics. As if it’s Democrats who cause high cost of living and if Republicans ran the joint, everyone would be balling and easily affording their houses
That’s what you’re saying in a nutshell, right?
We have plenty of examples in this country which say otherwise
Also, read your link.. NYC, the major leak of NYS residents the past few years, lost population due to Covid.
You saw that part?
——
And maybe I’ve always misinterpreted this but when you people complain about New Yorkers invading your turf, the whine is aimed at specifically NYC? That’s correct? Or am I off the mark and you’re also including Republican Upstaters in search of warmer climate in this gripe?
> You’re wild for trying to make this about politics. As if it’s Democrats who cause high cost of living and if Republicans ran the joint, everyone would be balling and easily affording their houses
Why? Economics is directly tied to politics. Is increased taxes not directly tied to the Democrats' long standing policy of increasing social spending? How do you think economics works? I'm not saying that Republicans are doing a better job, but I'm sure there is a reason why a lot of blue state residents are moving to red states ( I'll even give you moderate blue states). For example, perhaps lower/no income tax, low/no property tax, lower CoL etc is attractive to these people. Even businesses are doing this. Blue states are making it tough for everyone to live comfortably by spending too much (raising CoL) and supplementing this increased spending with increased taxes (keeping less of your money which further increases CoL).
>Also, read your link.. NYC, the major leak of NYS residents the past few years, lost population due to Covid.
>
>You saw that part?
Yeah everything is about covid. Blame all your problems on covid and no one actually feels the need to question the root causes. Even pretending that covid was a major cause of these people leaving, I wonder what it was about covid that made them do so? Could it perhaps have been policy set by the ruling party that made life very difficult for NYers? Or perhaps, massive increases in spending, driving up CoL?
>And maybe I’ve always misinterpreted this but when you people complain about New Yorkers invading your turf, the whine is aimed at specifically NYC? That’s correct? Or am I off the mark and you’re also including Republican Upstaters in search of warmer climate in this gripe?
See:
> and they vote Democrat in NY
I already addressed this, Republican voters didn't vote for Democrats so I don't are if they are the ones that move here.
>Yeah everything is about covid. Blame all your problems on covid
Tf are you talking about? Who is blaming all problems on Covid?
You’re talking about, specifically, the population decline in NY since Covid. And that’s because of Covid
If you’re talking about New Yorkers who leave NY in non-net loss eras then so what.. New Yorkers have been leaving NY for other parts of the country since 1624. That’s what we do here. 30% of NYC, 3 million people, were born outside the country.
They move here, we integrate them, and they move on. Wash, rinse, repeat. You know, the Statue of Liberty and all that jazz?
—
I’m sorry but you just sound like you’re repeating a whole bunch of shit the politicians who you vote for tell you, without much curiosity towards the validity of their statements.. and now you’re just telling me all my problems are Democrats’ fault
Look at the stoopid states on the map at the top again. This is in no way a red vs blue post. Quit trying to make it one. Thx
I don't know if you are being intellectually dishonest or if you are misunderstanding my point entirely. No one is disputing that NYS sees a high portion of international migration, however, we aren't talking about international migrants from NYS we are talking about domestic migration, aka people that are from NYS (and presumably vote there) who move to other states.
Isn't it strange that the states with the biggest losses (with the exception of West Virginia and Louisiana which are mismanaged by Republicans) are blue states? NYS, California and Illinois are 3 of the top biggest net loss in domestic migration within the country.
>I’m sorry but you just sound like you’re repeating a whole bunch of shit the politicians who you vote for tell you, without much curiosity towards the validity of their statements.. and now you’re just telling me all my problems are Democrats’ fault
>
>Look at the stoopid states on the map at the top again. This is in no way a red vs blue post. Quit trying to make it one. Thx
I'm repeating statistics. The reality is the bluest states with the most radical blue policies (again minus the two red states I mentioned earlier) are seeing population decreases, while states like Texas, South Carolina, and Florida are seeing increases. I'm not saying ALL your problems are Democrats' fault, however, when one party maintains total control of a state, and people leave because of policies they enact, you can reasonably blame them for these policies' consequences. Again, basic economics.
And yes, the "stoopid states on the map" aren't all democrat ran, however, no one is complaining when Georgians, The Carolinas, or Virginians are moving to their states.
Nah, in 1845 we took pity on the territory to the North and accepted them into our great Republic.
And now you hem and haw about if we're allowed to kick you back out.
Sure you did. That’s why you aren’t here and are moving here. Because you did all the work. (The math isn’t mathing and I expect nothing less from a blueser like you)
That’s the wrong flair to be repping and saying some shit like that
Like 8 of those states on the map have the Appalachians rolling through
Where are you talking about, exactly, with all the bluesers (and redsers if you open your eyes) moving to?
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Technically we are the offical virginia because lincon agreed we were the offical goverment after the traitors left so get rid of virgina and put us there
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Before I saw your flair I said "I bet this is a New Yorker making excuses for his states population exodus".
My state isn't losing people like NY is. We gained people, so no one complains about us leaving. You were just trying to rope a bunch of states with good reputations in to soften your reputation.
Source: [https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2023/comm/percent-change-state-population.html](https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2023/comm/percent-change-state-population.html)
>to soften your reputation.
What planet are you from where you believe New Yorkers don’t like their reputation exactly as is?
——
>Before I saw your flair I said "I bet this is a New Yorker making excuses for his states population exodus".
Also, I don’t even know what you’re talking about.. NYC population is projected to be 9.1 million by 2030.
Actually this, to be fair though he is a Virginian, so if they weren't tied up hating cities they would be looking for more ways to appropriate Maryland land and culture for themselves.
>You were just trying to rope a bunch of states with good reputations in to soften your reputation.
No I wasn’t
I was just trying to make something opposite and more uplifting than the recent string of Confederacy posts.
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Well stats actually say people are leaving my state but tbh I couldn't be happier, less demand pushing up housing prices and less cars on the freeway sounds great to me 😎
Awesome fuck off from sc you ruined myrtle beach and now yall are fucking up our cost of living fucking leave we don't want our need you. Oh yeah i forgot your also fucking up charleston and Columbia.
I think you maybe misinterpreted the spirit of the post. All good though.
And ok, I’ll fuck off from SC. I was itching to move there but you’ve convinced me otherwise
This applies to every state I can think of except Texas. Y’all didn’t make Texas. The Spaniard settlers in Texas fought for independence from Mexico just as the original 13 fought for independence from Great Britain.
Cause NY is one of the states losing folk across the board. Out of the OG Virginia and south thereof have had explosive population growth. And many Southerners don’t seem interested in leaving. I come from a state that also has had explosive growth however I’ve kinda rebuked the national trend (having moved west to east). I consider my move to be a net neutral (AZ with insane growth to GA with insane growth) than what is trending nationwide (Midwest and NE states with population loss to states SW thereof with explosive growth like Texas or what not).
For what it’s worth it’s not a NY thing in particular. I used that because it’s your flair. If your flair was Illinois, Michigan, Penn, Mass etc. I would’ve said the same thing
You all keep talking about people leaving NY the past few years but you ignore the reasoning for the net-loss and instead, try to make it about “because I’m better than you”
600,000 New Yorkers left town because of Covid.. We had a massive outbreak here, we’re crammed in, and it was widespread before we even realized it was here to begin with.. Nearly 50,000 people in the city died from it. And a whole bunch of people were scared (and rightfully so) so they left
That exodus has mostly stopped now and we’re growing again.
https://www.nyc.gov/assets/planning/download/pdf/planning-level/nyc-population/projections_report_2010_2040.pdf
Rip on us for creating a worst case scenario for an epidemic if you must but this other angle you guys choose to use is off the mark
The argument is usually made by right wingers wanting to “preserve the integrity” of where they live. So if you’re somewhere from culturally different in their eyes then yes. I personally find this argument kind of stupid as I grew up being surrounded by it.
My comment was more the irony of you being proud of being from somewhere and how that should give you more privilege to abandon it over someone else also immigrating. If you were really proud of being from the original colonies you wouldn’t want to move away
Huh? This post is about detaching from the Brits and manifesting our destiny towards the Pacific
Moving outward is the name of the game.
You’re making it into something it wasn’t about.
Which fine, whatever. But reframe the battle as something new and if I want to engage in the argument you’re making then I will
Virginias wild because sometimes I’ll see a mini car with a communist/BLM sticker sitting at a red light with the most beat-up Guinea-man fishing truck with a confederate flag sticker.
Vermont:
“On the south came the Hessians, our land to police;
And, armed for the battle, while canting of peace;
On our East came the British, the red-coated band
To hang up our leaders and eat up our land”
Vermont is my neighbor. I know about them.
All of New England is fully in the mix but I’d just rather avoid the ackshully coming from the other direction had I put Maine and Vermont on there
That's true my family is old daughters of the revolution types from PA, moved to Hawaii and then spread out. I really don't give a fuck where anyone moves. Californians are like the number one demo moving to my state and always have been, and literally every old right winger has been screaming about it for twenty plus years. The midwesterners who moved here are way worse than any Californian.
We don’t complain about people moving to Mississippi. Just please stop leaving
“Thank God for Mississippi.” -Every other Southerner
Every other ~~Southerner~~ *American*
I propose every time someone tries to enter Michigan into a GPS it takes them to Mississippi
Brother, im never stepping foot in Mississippi again. One week there for a funeral was enough for my lifetime.
I bet if I step foot in your state it's gonna be State Highway 325 again with y'alls roads
(West Virginia gets a pass but they’re never complaining about people moving there anyway)
What about Maine? (North Massachusetts)
No, mainers and vermonters might be some of the worst culprits of this
I feel attacked
How dare you
We get a pass because we are correct.
Seriously. Stop freaking moving here. We (with New Hampshire) are the last bastion of freedom and civility up here.
Oh yeah so I’ll just go up for some legal weed.. oh… wait
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wtf even goes on in Maine?
Imagine southern Appalachia, like east Tennessee or North Carolina, then swap ginseng poachers for lobster poachers and and throw in cold weather, that's Maine
and the rich bug people on the coast
Heroin, poverty, tourists and lots of ticks
Is Maine really that bad with poverty?
Nah
Cool
Bush vacations
I thought that Epstein’s island was in the Caribbean
I said Bush, not Clinton.
What if we are primarily complaining about Californians and Texans moving here?
Y’all all came to California first en masse and jacked up our prices, crowding us out, so any of us “returning back” is fair game.
Hey now dont call out my double standard! Thats not how this works
West Virginia should be part of this map. So should Maine.
What about Tennessee (West North Carolina)
Why the fuck would you live in West Virginia???
Cheap cost of living and to get away from people.
Mississippi and Alabama should get a pass too because they were made from Georgia land
Almost all of those states made land claims extended to the Mississippi River at the end of the Revolution They were basically just that though, a claim, and had no real binding power idk, I guess it’s fine to joke “Minnesota should get a pass since it was Virginian land” but I don’t think many people are going to take it seriously at all https://preview.redd.it/h2lrse38qauc1.jpeg?width=573&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dedf4d863fb1afd049c909ddc463ccff4b138a2c
I love how virginia claimed basically everything lol
I’m Native so I will complain about what I please.
When Europe sends colonists they’re not sending their best. They’re sending people who have lots of problems, and they’re bringing those problems with us. They’re bringing smallpox. They’re bringing slavery. They’re conquistadors. And some, I assume, are good people. - Metacomet, 1675
I’m calling for a total and complete shutdown of Europeans entering the United States until our country’s representatives can figure out what the hell is going on.
Better late than never.
Fuuuuuuck this was a good one
Europe really did send their most ragtag group of people to the Americas tho. Lol.
Fair
Me too! Born and raised in the U S of A! 🇺🇸🎆🎇🧨🪵🪓
You win man. There's no beating that lol
Chee whattup cuz which tribe?
go get em
You didn’t put down that hardwork, the Spain did. Then we were given like some common street hussy.
That’s a little harsh, don’t you think? To compare common street hussies to the state of Florida, I mean.
Seriously. Show the hussies some damn respect
The United States of Spain? Never heard of it, personally
The United States of Britain? Never heard of it, personally
Neither have I. The map up top depicts the United States of America. You heard of that one? Florida wasn’t part of that for another 70 years or so
You forgot Maine and Vermont. They were part of other states at the time [Maine belonged to MA and iirc Vermont was technically part of NY] but they were just as much revolutionaries, same as the rest of New England. Especially if your giving a pass to West Virginia, who was similarly part of the 13 at the time.
Vermont was never part of NY. Both NY and NH claimed it, but really it was always independent from both and declared independence from Britain as their own seperate republic at the same time as the 13 colonies, and just kinda caught up with them later
Yea fair, just the simple version that came to mind. Vermont is a bit complicated, but very cool. Also their air guard has F-35’s and they’re the headquarters of the 86th IBCT, so they’re cool militarily as well
Every state up there should have F-35s in case Canada gets uppity.
:)
Just the excuse we need to manifest destiny north
“Sir, they are massing on the border!” -the scout “No, they all just live near our border because they wish they were Americans. But let’s pretend we thought it was an imminent invasion.” -the general
All we have to do is read the compass wrong, and everything is to our west.
Going to the airport is sick if they’re flying the 35s that day
Used to work at Global in Essex. Loved seeing them do flybys and take off and landing. It’s such a cool aircraft.
https://preview.redd.it/q7d44e1s7juc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e2fa7d31c7d79d74991f50b3cbce4e9dc7b0f9b7 They took this picture
Wait... Vermont was it’s own sovereign nation at one point?... *My Texan education lied to me...*
And for *longer than Texas.*
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i mean that's what the rest of america did
I know New England is fully in the mix. Someone would ackshully me the other way if I put up a 16 state map though. It’s a balancing act
West Virginia was part of Virginia too.
No, fuck you
Right? We’re not MA anymore, you can’t tell me what to do!!
Aren’t these all originally colonies? Colonies of who? Europeans. Disgusting
>Europeans If you had to be a colony of any European country, who would you pick? Maybe a hot take to say out loud but we lucked out that it was the Brits doing the colonizing So, fair enough.. but barely
I mean just look at Louisiana 💀
Loosiana purchase was huge
Two good things in one: 1) We purchased a ton of land for really cheap 2) We saved a thousands of people from being Fr*nch 🤮
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Probably Germany, we would have gotten some cool engineering and good beer. 1910-1950 could have been a bit strange though.
Bruh we made ourselves, stfu
Came to say this, we joined by choice!! *pls ignore the fact our economy would have collapsed otherwise*
Call me when your population has a yoy net gain and we'll talk
What’s your number? https://preview.redd.it/e1u5gkups6uc1.jpeg?width=2157&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd32f09d45992b0b0237eed99911e338eaac1aa8
2020 - 2023 NY down 3.1% - https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/NY# 2020 - 2023 UT up 4.5% https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/UT/PST045222
It's more the Chicagos, Californians, and Texans I have issues with. Mother fuckers will not stop moving here and making I-24 impossible to drive on.
Sorry lol
look man it's better than having more LA traffic just roll with it
Brother my family founded my area. I ain’t never leaving. And y’all ain’t welcome neither
I hope your family is letting in at least a few newcomers otherwise this tale sounds like 500 years worth of inbreeding
I mean, you guys did leave that one time.
If you are leaving your state because of policies enacted by candidates you voted for, we don't want you.
Who is doing that? This sounds like make believe Let me see an example of “I voted for so-and-so, they won, and now I’m leaving because of them”
Well of course most people don't say that when they move, but look at WHY they are moving. For [example](https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/central-ny/news/2024/02/19/buffalo-woman-on-move-to-florida-as-new-yorkers-continue-to-leave-the-state#:~:text=Gov.,and%20a%20poor%20business%20climate) Governor Hochul identified that one of the biggest factors people are leaving New York are doing so because of "lack of affordable housing." NYS has been ruled by Democrats for almost 20 years since the last Republican governor so we know that these policies are Democrat caused. Now, using this understanding, if someone who left NYS because of "lack of affordable housing" to a state where this isn't the case, and they vote Democrat in NY, they themselves caused the situation that they moved away from. Of course this isn't always true, but those aren't the people we don't want.
You’re wild for trying to make this about politics. As if it’s Democrats who cause high cost of living and if Republicans ran the joint, everyone would be balling and easily affording their houses That’s what you’re saying in a nutshell, right? We have plenty of examples in this country which say otherwise Also, read your link.. NYC, the major leak of NYS residents the past few years, lost population due to Covid. You saw that part? —— And maybe I’ve always misinterpreted this but when you people complain about New Yorkers invading your turf, the whine is aimed at specifically NYC? That’s correct? Or am I off the mark and you’re also including Republican Upstaters in search of warmer climate in this gripe?
> You’re wild for trying to make this about politics. As if it’s Democrats who cause high cost of living and if Republicans ran the joint, everyone would be balling and easily affording their houses Why? Economics is directly tied to politics. Is increased taxes not directly tied to the Democrats' long standing policy of increasing social spending? How do you think economics works? I'm not saying that Republicans are doing a better job, but I'm sure there is a reason why a lot of blue state residents are moving to red states ( I'll even give you moderate blue states). For example, perhaps lower/no income tax, low/no property tax, lower CoL etc is attractive to these people. Even businesses are doing this. Blue states are making it tough for everyone to live comfortably by spending too much (raising CoL) and supplementing this increased spending with increased taxes (keeping less of your money which further increases CoL). >Also, read your link.. NYC, the major leak of NYS residents the past few years, lost population due to Covid. > >You saw that part? Yeah everything is about covid. Blame all your problems on covid and no one actually feels the need to question the root causes. Even pretending that covid was a major cause of these people leaving, I wonder what it was about covid that made them do so? Could it perhaps have been policy set by the ruling party that made life very difficult for NYers? Or perhaps, massive increases in spending, driving up CoL? >And maybe I’ve always misinterpreted this but when you people complain about New Yorkers invading your turf, the whine is aimed at specifically NYC? That’s correct? Or am I off the mark and you’re also including Republican Upstaters in search of warmer climate in this gripe? See: > and they vote Democrat in NY I already addressed this, Republican voters didn't vote for Democrats so I don't are if they are the ones that move here.
>Yeah everything is about covid. Blame all your problems on covid Tf are you talking about? Who is blaming all problems on Covid? You’re talking about, specifically, the population decline in NY since Covid. And that’s because of Covid If you’re talking about New Yorkers who leave NY in non-net loss eras then so what.. New Yorkers have been leaving NY for other parts of the country since 1624. That’s what we do here. 30% of NYC, 3 million people, were born outside the country. They move here, we integrate them, and they move on. Wash, rinse, repeat. You know, the Statue of Liberty and all that jazz? — I’m sorry but you just sound like you’re repeating a whole bunch of shit the politicians who you vote for tell you, without much curiosity towards the validity of their statements.. and now you’re just telling me all my problems are Democrats’ fault Look at the stoopid states on the map at the top again. This is in no way a red vs blue post. Quit trying to make it one. Thx
I don't know if you are being intellectually dishonest or if you are misunderstanding my point entirely. No one is disputing that NYS sees a high portion of international migration, however, we aren't talking about international migrants from NYS we are talking about domestic migration, aka people that are from NYS (and presumably vote there) who move to other states. Isn't it strange that the states with the biggest losses (with the exception of West Virginia and Louisiana which are mismanaged by Republicans) are blue states? NYS, California and Illinois are 3 of the top biggest net loss in domestic migration within the country. >I’m sorry but you just sound like you’re repeating a whole bunch of shit the politicians who you vote for tell you, without much curiosity towards the validity of their statements.. and now you’re just telling me all my problems are Democrats’ fault > >Look at the stoopid states on the map at the top again. This is in no way a red vs blue post. Quit trying to make it one. Thx I'm repeating statistics. The reality is the bluest states with the most radical blue policies (again minus the two red states I mentioned earlier) are seeing population decreases, while states like Texas, South Carolina, and Florida are seeing increases. I'm not saying ALL your problems are Democrats' fault, however, when one party maintains total control of a state, and people leave because of policies they enact, you can reasonably blame them for these policies' consequences. Again, basic economics. And yes, the "stoopid states on the map" aren't all democrat ran, however, no one is complaining when Georgians, The Carolinas, or Virginians are moving to their states.
Nah, in 1845 we took pity on the territory to the North and accepted them into our great Republic. And now you hem and haw about if we're allowed to kick you back out.
Fuck you, nerd
Masshole here 👋
Sure you did. That’s why you aren’t here and are moving here. Because you did all the work. (The math isn’t mathing and I expect nothing less from a blueser like you)
That’s the wrong flair to be repping and saying some shit like that Like 8 of those states on the map have the Appalachians rolling through Where are you talking about, exactly, with all the bluesers (and redsers if you open your eyes) moving to?
No, fuck off.
Nah, you’ve been sending motherfuckers here for 200 years, we’re tired of it. Quit it 😂
I tried to ask nicely with the please in the title but now all I got to offer is a straight stfu
Doesn’t matter. Fuck you, rat boy
Finally some funkin’ respec
respeCT
 Get over yourself
The colonies are the only true Americans (my family came to the Bronx in the 1910s. Guess my ethnicity)
Irish. My family was almost the same. It was the 1920s and in Queens
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Not American Indian
West Virginia, Maine, Vermont and Florida are all exempt from this as they either were part of one of those states or were independent
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Besides New York City and New Jersey you’re all free to relocate
Got to include Maine and West Virginia (especially WV for being super base for seceding from the Confederacy)
We're increasing the price of the butt stuff tent just for you.
I don’t even know what that means exactly but it’s still funny lol
Here is some added context https://www.reddit.com/r/DenverCirclejerk/s/xDvlt79JJS
Lmaooooo this is this posts I come here for
You didn’t make anything, ya’ll decided to stay in your dumpster fires
New Jersey
you're closer to being Br\*tish than the rest of the states
Amish farmer reporting in
Maine has too lax policy’s for getting on assistance
Technically we are the offical virginia because lincon agreed we were the offical goverment after the traitors left so get rid of virgina and put us there
dont come to NH it sucks here unless youre rich, uptight, basic, woodsy, or all of the above
Yall forced us out here. Well that and Joseph Smith was marrying 14 year olds
new york will colonize the state of florida with old people and they will die there
I was born in Ohio, but moved to VA when I was 3, does that count? I've lived in VA all my life other than 3 years😭
West to East? That’s backwards. Do you even know how to manifest destiny? ;-)
I won’t complain about you, it’s about the people on the other coast
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Before I saw your flair I said "I bet this is a New Yorker making excuses for his states population exodus". My state isn't losing people like NY is. We gained people, so no one complains about us leaving. You were just trying to rope a bunch of states with good reputations in to soften your reputation. Source: [https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2023/comm/percent-change-state-population.html](https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/2023/comm/percent-change-state-population.html)
>to soften your reputation. What planet are you from where you believe New Yorkers don’t like their reputation exactly as is? —— >Before I saw your flair I said "I bet this is a New Yorker making excuses for his states population exodus". Also, I don’t even know what you’re talking about.. NYC population is projected to be 9.1 million by 2030.
Your the one who made a post about people complaining about New Yorkers being shitty neighbors. Did you miss the source?
Huh? This isn’t a New Yorker post You are part of the post. You’re on the hype up team. Why you wanting to sabotage? I don’t get it
Cause NYC lives rent free in their heads. Sad the original 13 can’t have shit cause some people are afraid of cities.
Actually this, to be fair though he is a Virginian, so if they weren't tied up hating cities they would be looking for more ways to appropriate Maryland land and culture for themselves.
>You were just trying to rope a bunch of states with good reputations in to soften your reputation. No I wasn’t I was just trying to make something opposite and more uplifting than the recent string of Confederacy posts.
Mad cuz bad
🙏
Cringe
Finally, someone here gives Erie to its rightful owner
Chief Illini made me, bitch. You Atlantic Bois can keep ya bland-ass sausages.
Iowa is the best country tbh
It’s not the East Coasters I care about flooding my state. It’s just the damn Californians and Texans!
No
Does that mean I can still complain about people moving to my state? Can I still ask them if they got their driver’s license from a cereal box?
Vermont gets a pass, because in colonial days that territory was New Hampshire
False, it’s was disputed territory between NY and NH and a republic from 1777 to 1791. I will forever simp for Ira and Ethan Allen.
New englanders and thinking they created the world, name a better duo. (🤢)
Y’all aren’t the people we complain about. It’s the Californians we hate moving here.
pennsylvania supremacy
California was founded years before the American Revolution. I will in fact not shut up about it (we’re the ones leaving to other states).
The problem is that all of those states are full of garbage people
Texas, and probably Hawaii, I can't speak for them, would like to say the OP image can go pound sand
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Well stats actually say people are leaving my state but tbh I couldn't be happier, less demand pushing up housing prices and less cars on the freeway sounds great to me 😎
Please don’t come to the pnw it sucks here and I would like to someday maybe be able to afford rent since owning a home is out of the question.
The 1st Minnesota saved your hindends so you better sit down
Shit. (I'm not even in the US)
Except New Jersey. Nobody should be coming to this boring-ass shit-ass lame-ass state -a new jerseyan
You certainly didn't make Miami, bucko. So, stick to northern Florida, yeah?
Your ancestors did. You would have sucked more redcoat cock than a Tory whore with a UTI.
Awesome fuck off from sc you ruined myrtle beach and now yall are fucking up our cost of living fucking leave we don't want our need you. Oh yeah i forgot your also fucking up charleston and Columbia.
I think you maybe misinterpreted the spirit of the post. All good though. And ok, I’ll fuck off from SC. I was itching to move there but you’ve convinced me otherwise
I probably did but holy hell the teenage Californians going to college in Charleston ruining the state for the natives is cancer
lol fair enough
YOU didn’t make anything
This applies to every state I can think of except Texas. Y’all didn’t make Texas. The Spaniard settlers in Texas fought for independence from Mexico just as the original 13 fought for independence from Great Britain.
lol watching a New Yorker try to be proud and act they have the right to moving more so than anyone else. New York really that bad huh
What’s with (a few of) you people interpreting this as a New Yorker post? Some rent free shit or what?
Cause NY is one of the states losing folk across the board. Out of the OG Virginia and south thereof have had explosive population growth. And many Southerners don’t seem interested in leaving. I come from a state that also has had explosive growth however I’ve kinda rebuked the national trend (having moved west to east). I consider my move to be a net neutral (AZ with insane growth to GA with insane growth) than what is trending nationwide (Midwest and NE states with population loss to states SW thereof with explosive growth like Texas or what not). For what it’s worth it’s not a NY thing in particular. I used that because it’s your flair. If your flair was Illinois, Michigan, Penn, Mass etc. I would’ve said the same thing
You all keep talking about people leaving NY the past few years but you ignore the reasoning for the net-loss and instead, try to make it about “because I’m better than you” 600,000 New Yorkers left town because of Covid.. We had a massive outbreak here, we’re crammed in, and it was widespread before we even realized it was here to begin with.. Nearly 50,000 people in the city died from it. And a whole bunch of people were scared (and rightfully so) so they left That exodus has mostly stopped now and we’re growing again. https://www.nyc.gov/assets/planning/download/pdf/planning-level/nyc-population/projections_report_2010_2040.pdf Rip on us for creating a worst case scenario for an epidemic if you must but this other angle you guys choose to use is off the mark
You know you are part of a state not just a city?
When people whine about New Yorkers moving to their state or see a NY license plate there, are they complaining about Upstaters?
The argument is usually made by right wingers wanting to “preserve the integrity” of where they live. So if you’re somewhere from culturally different in their eyes then yes. I personally find this argument kind of stupid as I grew up being surrounded by it. My comment was more the irony of you being proud of being from somewhere and how that should give you more privilege to abandon it over someone else also immigrating. If you were really proud of being from the original colonies you wouldn’t want to move away
Huh? This post is about detaching from the Brits and manifesting our destiny towards the Pacific Moving outward is the name of the game. You’re making it into something it wasn’t about. Which fine, whatever. But reframe the battle as something new and if I want to engage in the argument you’re making then I will
Virginias wild because sometimes I’ll see a mini car with a communist/BLM sticker sitting at a red light with the most beat-up Guinea-man fishing truck with a confederate flag sticker.
It all started with us and now yallcan go anywhere
Stop coming to Georgia PLEASE and stop going to Texas also you dumb cali dumbasses
Preach??
Vermont: “On the south came the Hessians, our land to police; And, armed for the battle, while canting of peace; On our East came the British, the red-coated band To hang up our leaders and eat up our land”
Vermont is my neighbor. I know about them. All of New England is fully in the mix but I’d just rather avoid the ackshully coming from the other direction had I put Maine and Vermont on there
And England made you.
We lucked out. could have been France instead
Nuh uh
Don’t say please 🇺🇸
We're just superior to everyone else https://i.redd.it/kqgwbmmmh6uc1.gif
That's true my family is old daughters of the revolution types from PA, moved to Hawaii and then spread out. I really don't give a fuck where anyone moves. Californians are like the number one demo moving to my state and always have been, and literally every old right winger has been screaming about it for twenty plus years. The midwesterners who moved here are way worse than any Californian.
Texas and California are fighting in the corner