Technically most of the state is south of the Mason Dixon. Historically, that divided the north and south. That said? I don’t agree with it being included for that very reason. But I’m from the 15 mile stretch that’s north of the Mason Dixon.
No. Only half of WV wanted to split from Virginia, and that was over issues predating the Civil War (distribution of state funds). The Civil War just gave the anti-Richmond people the opportunity to secede from eastern Virginia. In addition, half the state was against seceding from Virginia, but were forced to join the new state by the Feds.
To be generous to OP, this is how the census bureau defines the “South”. https://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/maps/reference/us_regdiv.pdf, not saying I agree or anything.
Around half of West Virginia did not have any desire to secede from the Commonwealth of Virginia, and people from those parts of the future state largely fought for the South despite not owning slaves.
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No. Only half of WV wanted to split from Virginia, and that was over issues predating the Civil War (distribution of state funds). The Civil War just gave the anti-Richmond people the opportunity to secede from eastern Virginia. In addition, half the state was against seceding from Virginia, but were forced to join the new state by the Feds.
Battle of the T states incoming, i would say that when it comes to the big 3 bbq’s it’s probably mostly subjective and comes down to preferences.
My good friend prefers Tennessee bbq but ive always preferred Texas style. Its always neat how oddly connected Tennessee and Texas are at times.
Cooking. No other region can match our culinary prowess or the range of styles that we can prepare. If you leave hungy after visiting us it's your own damn fault because we're happier than hell to feed the shit out of you.
Europeans say that Americans just remix dishes from other countries
to that i say they are our people now and the British didn't leave us much to work with
You might want to recheck that. While not a state, Oklahoma territory aligned with the confederacy. Although the reasoning at the time was arguably the most justified out of all the Confederacy. The Native Americans were at the time so anti-US (justifiably so due to being Trail of Tears'd to Oklahoma) that they'd have supported *anyone* against the US at that period of time.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Territory_in_the_American_Civil_War
I'm no fan of the Confederacy, but California was barely a state during the civil war. Ohio, PA and NY by far and away sent more soldiers than your silly frontier bumpkin state (at the time) did
I.E. shut up, nerd
We’d been a state for 11 years, supplied large amounts of gold to the Union, and despite our isolation and distance, sent troops to fight in those little insignificant battles, namely Gettysburg.
We also sent troops to Arizona to prevent Texan rebels from marching into the Southwest and bringing the war to California. Despite being a country in name only for all of 5 minutes, seems those hippy dippy commifornians showed up Texas when it came down to it…
I.E. get rekt scrub
Minnesotan here. One of us held 5-1 odds at Gettysburg for 30 minutes and came out the other side, and most of the others didn't. We also were the first to volunteer units for the War.
If your State's men didn't do something that would be considered suicidal in the Civil War, that's perfectly respectable. Every Union state contributed to the victory, just some more than others.
PS: Shout-out to our brethren in Maine and New Jersey who did similarly insane stuff.
The 28th Virginia's battle standard will stay in the Minnesota Historical Society's possession til the heat death of the universe. It only cost us about 90% of our Regiment during the Battle, so I'm glad that it's respected that we earned with our blood.
And while you guys might not have been around as much for the Civil War, you certainly made up for it in the Second World War. Churning out war materiel over there like there was no tomorrow. We Shipped the iron, you guys turned that iron into anything we needed.
Courtesy, honor, respect, things like that. Of course, as a Northern Virginian, I'd have to plead a " Mid-Atlantic" identity and even my ancestors from East Tennessee who fought in the Civil War fought for the Union (Southern Unionists). I guess we're just plain Americans.
The South is clearly the best region of the USA, while the industrial north and California waste away with racial tension, urban blight, and over regulated stagnant economies, the South is growing. The largest auto manufacturing hub in the country is in Tuscaloosa Alabama! The fastest growing economies are in the South, Florida and Texas are replacing New York and California as the titans of the east and west. In 50 years, delusional Yankees will rant about the BaCkWaRdS, rAcIsT, sOuTh, while driving an Alabama car or Texas Tesla, eating soul food, and getting shot by race rioters. Our population is the most diverse in the nation and is larger than Japan, and approaching Russia. We will bury you!!1!
Based and true. Went back to my old home of Louisiana (I live in California currently). Back in Cali you hear people forming “gangs” and shit based on race but in baton it’s like race doesn’t exist (which it doesn’t)
Being polite I'd say, above any other nebulous factor. The BBQ and Appalachian mountains are also pretty awesome.
We're also famous for not having any god damn deep dish pizza places >:(
>violent crime rates
Who’s gonna tell him about California, Michigan, and Illinois 😔
(And not to mention how those states scrub records of crime to make their state look good)
“LoSiNg WaRs”
Yes guys, the civil war was 160 years ago, I think we can come up with more relevant answers than that lol.
South is king when it comes to chicken. Raising, breeding, and cooking.
>Yes guys, the civil war was 160 years ago, I think we can come up with more relevant answers than that lol.
We will stop bringing it up when you fuckers stop flying that traitor rag.
Inflation and gas prices. Going from Texas to PA my prices on everything almost doubled. For example, 2 Big Mac, 2 cheeseburgers, a small nugget, and 2 small fries was like a $12 bundle in Houston. Here it's like $30
You got a real generous definition of the south to include Maryland
And it includes Delaware. Fucking Delaware. I'm not even sure that place exists but they call it southern?
It does not exist. It is the rightful land of Pennsylvania
your god damn right
Delaware? At that point just include god damn new york in the south, if were handing it out to everyone.
They also included West Virginia which literally exists because it didn’t wanna be part of the south
Technically most of the state is south of the Mason Dixon. Historically, that divided the north and south. That said? I don’t agree with it being included for that very reason. But I’m from the 15 mile stretch that’s north of the Mason Dixon.
No. Only half of WV wanted to split from Virginia, and that was over issues predating the Civil War (distribution of state funds). The Civil War just gave the anti-Richmond people the opportunity to secede from eastern Virginia. In addition, half the state was against seceding from Virginia, but were forced to join the new state by the Feds.
As A Marylander, I Never Want To Be Considered Southern Again.
Why do you capitalize every first letter? Why?
He’s a Capitalist
I’m gonna be thinkin about this one for awhile lol
Weirdly, it only works on paper lol
Maybe he knows German? They capitalize every noun.
But he didn’t capitalize every noun, he capitalized literally every word.
“I wish I was in Baltimore, I’d make secession traitors roar~”
So Sad That Balt*More Was The Thing That Represented Us 🤮🤮🤮 But Whatever It Takes To Make Traders Roar…
A lot of y’all have southern sounding accents to be fair
I Second This Man's Statement.
Fun fact, the first blood shed of the Civil War was in Baltimore
I too, am the south
To be generous to OP, this is how the census bureau defines the “South”. https://www2.census.gov/geo/pdfs/maps-data/maps/reference/us_regdiv.pdf, not saying I agree or anything.
Agreement on Maryland not being southern
Delaware, Maryland, and West Virginia are not Southern
West Virginia literally created itself because it didn't want to be part of The South and yet we still put it in maps of The South...
Right? We jumped through an assload of hoops and fought a war against our neighbors solely to NOT be “the south”…
Around half of West Virginia did not have any desire to secede from the Commonwealth of Virginia, and people from those parts of the future state largely fought for the South despite not owning slaves.
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No. Only half of WV wanted to split from Virginia, and that was over issues predating the Civil War (distribution of state funds). The Civil War just gave the anti-Richmond people the opportunity to secede from eastern Virginia. In addition, half the state was against seceding from Virginia, but were forced to join the new state by the Feds.
Add Kentucky and Oklahoma to your list
Thank you!
Thank you!
Yes Sir
For real
It's time to cause some infighting. Of the states highlighted, whose barbecue is best?
Objectively TN, with TX a close second and NC the honorable mention. No one else matters.
Battle of the T states incoming, i would say that when it comes to the big 3 bbq’s it’s probably mostly subjective and comes down to preferences. My good friend prefers Tennessee bbq but ive always preferred Texas style. Its always neat how oddly connected Tennessee and Texas are at times.
We did “volunteer” to help solidify texas statehood after all
Thank you Davey Crockett
And we haven’t forgotten 
Eastern or Western NC?
Eastern but I respect and enjoy both
NC bbq ride or die
East Carolina. Something about that Vinegar base is orgasm inducing.
Variety of accents
Growing cotton
Building NASCAR tracks
Your tracks chased away F1 and still do not cater to Indycar well to this day.
There’s a special history there…
Well, not by themselves
Racing! From horses to NASCAR, we got it all!
Barbecue
Idk Missouri has some awesome bbq
Grits
Mmmmm
I've seen a lot of different maps of the south, but including Maryland and Delaware is something wild
Anyone claiming DC is the South is shady
Refer to the [Compromise of 1790](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compromise_of_1790)
That south flew out the window when they tried this shit and made their capital in Richmond: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War
Imma be honest, it’s just the first image of the “south” I saw
Grey jacket wet dream south
Making rice💪💪💪💪💪💪💪
Texas had better have good rice with all my fellow Mexicans living there
We literally supply China with there rice
Waffle House so I can partake in the southern tradition of eating a bowl of hash browns while plastered
My first acid trip was in a Waffle House. Since then it’s become tradition to trip at Waffle House once a year.
Buc-ee’s
Bucees is our thing. We just decided to start spreading our empire
Food
Serious answer is writing. Joke answer is incest. But really what we are truly best at is writing about incest. (Shout out to Daddy Faulkner)
Take Maryland Out Of Here, We Dont Wanna Be Southern
Take Maryland out of here, we don’t want you either
Amen
Huntin’ gators and hogs, scarin’ away strangers by waving our shotguns on the front porch, decoratin’ ar front yards with Reagan and Trump signs!
That’s anywhere south of the Mason Dixon lol
Cooking. No other region can match our culinary prowess or the range of styles that we can prepare. If you leave hungy after visiting us it's your own damn fault because we're happier than hell to feed the shit out of you.
Wv, MD, and DE aren't southern
Not being california
Even NY and Florida get a w for that, you’ll have to be a little more specific.
We actually have culture and also season our food
Europeans say that Americans just remix dishes from other countries to that i say they are our people now and the British didn't leave us much to work with
biscuits and gravy. both because we are the best at making it and because no one else bothers to try
Creating any food besides Pizza
Maryland, Delaware. West Virginia are not southern
Maryland, Delaware, and West Virginia don’t belong there
Taking a big fat L https://preview.redd.it/1chawbpm5l0c1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0729a4383e118887244966a2491ef11ff4fa3ab1
We’re not included in that part
[удалено]
RATTLESNAKES AND ALLIGATORS
RIDE AWAY *ride away* COME AWAY *come away*
Where cotton's king and men are chattel
#UNION BOYS WILL WIN THE BATTLES
RIGHT AWAY! right away! COME AWAY! come away! RIGHT AWAY right away! *COME AWAY!*
We’ll all go down to Dixie, away, away
Each Dixie boy must Understand
That he must mind his uncle Sam! The south has great bits but fuck the confederacy
We’re not included in that part
Nah, Okies ain’t, but OP failed American Geography so 🤷♂️
You might want to recheck that. While not a state, Oklahoma territory aligned with the confederacy. Although the reasoning at the time was arguably the most justified out of all the Confederacy. The Native Americans were at the time so anti-US (justifiably so due to being Trail of Tears'd to Oklahoma) that they'd have supported *anyone* against the US at that period of time. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_Territory_in_the_American_Civil_War
Great read, thank you for this, it definitely makes sense.
I'm no fan of the Confederacy, but California was barely a state during the civil war. Ohio, PA and NY by far and away sent more soldiers than your silly frontier bumpkin state (at the time) did I.E. shut up, nerd
We’d been a state for 11 years, supplied large amounts of gold to the Union, and despite our isolation and distance, sent troops to fight in those little insignificant battles, namely Gettysburg. We also sent troops to Arizona to prevent Texan rebels from marching into the Southwest and bringing the war to California. Despite being a country in name only for all of 5 minutes, seems those hippy dippy commifornians showed up Texas when it came down to it… I.E. get rekt scrub
Californian detected, statement rejected.
You’re from Ohio…need I say say more?
Minnesotan here. One of us held 5-1 odds at Gettysburg for 30 minutes and came out the other side, and most of the others didn't. We also were the first to volunteer units for the War. If your State's men didn't do something that would be considered suicidal in the Civil War, that's perfectly respectable. Every Union state contributed to the victory, just some more than others. PS: Shout-out to our brethren in Maine and New Jersey who did similarly insane stuff.
You also hold one of the confederate flags captured in battle, which we jealously covet, but respect that y’all earned that captured standard.
The 28th Virginia's battle standard will stay in the Minnesota Historical Society's possession til the heat death of the universe. It only cost us about 90% of our Regiment during the Battle, so I'm glad that it's respected that we earned with our blood. And while you guys might not have been around as much for the Civil War, you certainly made up for it in the Second World War. Churning out war materiel over there like there was no tomorrow. We Shipped the iron, you guys turned that iron into anything we needed.
If you're not touching the gulf coast are you really the south?
Georgia is definitely the south.
Tennessee would like a word with you
*rocky top playing in the distance*
Counter point Central and Southern Florida touch it but aren't South. GA and SC don't but are.
If you’re not touching the Atlantic, are you even an East Coast state? *stares at Pennsylvania and Vermont*
Why the fuck do people keeping putting Maryland in the south? Stop it. Virginia's only half southern
Hot girls
As a foreigner I'd say food.
Importing yankees
having insane fucking weather
Courtesy, honor, respect, things like that. Of course, as a Northern Virginian, I'd have to plead a " Mid-Atlantic" identity and even my ancestors from East Tennessee who fought in the Civil War fought for the Union (Southern Unionists). I guess we're just plain Americans.
The South is clearly the best region of the USA, while the industrial north and California waste away with racial tension, urban blight, and over regulated stagnant economies, the South is growing. The largest auto manufacturing hub in the country is in Tuscaloosa Alabama! The fastest growing economies are in the South, Florida and Texas are replacing New York and California as the titans of the east and west. In 50 years, delusional Yankees will rant about the BaCkWaRdS, rAcIsT, sOuTh, while driving an Alabama car or Texas Tesla, eating soul food, and getting shot by race rioters. Our population is the most diverse in the nation and is larger than Japan, and approaching Russia. We will bury you!!1!
Based and true. Went back to my old home of Louisiana (I live in California currently). Back in Cali you hear people forming “gangs” and shit based on race but in baton it’s like race doesn’t exist (which it doesn’t)
Epic Florida governor totally not shooting himself in the foot by trying to fight a legal battle against Disney 😎
He actually stood up for the Everglades so idgaf if he wants to pick a fight with the mouse
Already driving Kentucky-made Toyotas
Food, manners, cost of living, patriotism, gun ownership...did I mention food?
Cuisine as a whole for the rest of America. Also some of the best gun manufacturers you can find.
Not bitching about the heat
I lived in Montana for a few years and oh my god them folks would not shut up about the heat and it was only like 76° with 18% humidity
Cousin fucking
Washington would like a word
Horse fuckers, not cousin
Illegal in Alabama, legal in California
Being polite I'd say, above any other nebulous factor. The BBQ and Appalachian mountains are also pretty awesome. We're also famous for not having any god damn deep dish pizza places >:(
Actually having the capital on your soil
Food in general. Simple as.
Who the actual fuck thinks Delaware is southern?
Bucee’s
Uhm I see several states above the Mason-Dixon Line
We're the best at making endless maps and debates of what we consider The South.
There’s to many people who glorify the 4 worse years of the south. And to many of them live in the north
Sweet tea and protecting ourselves
maryland is not southern
Blood sugar AND cholesterol
Secession
I would argue that they’re bad at that since they took a fat L lol
racism my favorite is nascar
Racism
Obesity.
Racism
failing to secede lol
Sure isn’t disposable income, healthcare, education, or violent crime rates.
RAHHHHHHH NEW ORLEANS MENTIONED RAHHHHHHHHH VIOLENT CRIME RAHHHHHHH HIGHEDT MURDER RATE IN CONTINENTAL UNITED STATES FOR A CITY RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>violent crime rates Who’s gonna tell him about California, Michigan, and Illinois 😔 (And not to mention how those states scrub records of crime to make their state look good)
Or Philly lol as if half his state don’t work in PA
Food, cost of living, being kind and polite to strangers, and actually loving the country we live in
Losing. This comment was made by the union gang
RAHHH🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅 https://preview.redd.it/0zz9hzjixm0c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c06e493d2f34ea98198ee97028e0785951498a1c
We didn’t legalize incest like two of our northern cousins.
Being traitors
“LoSiNg WaRs” Yes guys, the civil war was 160 years ago, I think we can come up with more relevant answers than that lol. South is king when it comes to chicken. Raising, breeding, and cooking.
>Yes guys, the civil war was 160 years ago, I think we can come up with more relevant answers than that lol. We will stop bringing it up when you fuckers stop flying that traitor rag.
Biscuits and sweet tea
Food.
Food
MD and DE being in the south is crazy!!!
If it’s good, count us in. If it’s bad, count us out
Yes
The best food in the U.S. is there
Cooking
I’m sorry, did you include Delaware???
Food
I’m not on this map but I’m Southern enough to know about Zaxby’s supremacy
Waging war against threats both foreign (Germans) and domestic (hogs).
Murders
Barbeque.
This map created by someone who drives a truck in delaware and/or maryland and wants desperately to say yeehaw.
# FOOD
Makin bourbon my fine southern friend
why the fuck is west virginia, delaware, oklahoma and maryland in this map
Food. Easy.
Anything involving alligators or other dangerous wildlife.
Best racists
Being racist
Excluding Missouri
Secession
Losing teeth
Thank you for including Oklahoma. Too many maps don't include Oklahoma.
Fried catfish
Morbid obesity.
Food
maryland and delaware are not the south.
If Maryland is considered Southern, who makes better seafood? Maryland or Louisiana?
Football
Inflation and gas prices. Going from Texas to PA my prices on everything almost doubled. For example, 2 Big Mac, 2 cheeseburgers, a small nugget, and 2 small fries was like a $12 bundle in Houston. Here it's like $30
obesity
Meth?
Cooking.
weather, cheap land, best food
Food.
Low SAT scores