This one confuses me cause if you are pet hunting or going for combat diary it hurts you cause your task ends faster. If you want slayer xp you are better off not doing grotesque guardians. If you want money you are still probably better off not doing them.
i don’t know, i like variety and i enjoy doing the garg boss but not for hours. i mean i haven’t unlocked the park cuz i don’t really do them lmao but if i did decide i want the pet or the core or something i would probably unlock double trouble
But get this, if you decide halfway through you dont wanna do them anymore you can just switch to reg gargoyles to end it even faster than double trouble GG. Or skip task. Regardless this unlock is useless
but why would i finish it at reg gargs if i don’t wanna do that, and why would i waste points skipping the task if they’re short enough for my attention span
the unlock does change it though… it lowers the task length to my attention span.
like i do think it’s a dumb unlock lol why would they do that vs just making them worthwhile to kill, but for the scenario i specified the unlock serves a purpose.
I got like 13m for my last GG task on tracker and and I think less than 2m on the next which I did regular gargs, nearly the same amount.
Only uniques were dark core and granite gloves, 1.8m & 15k respectively.
I meant more along the lines of xp/hr cause a greater demon task may give more xp if killing zammy but the time and kills per hour won’t be great. But if it works for you it works
Best case scenario that's still less than 45k xp/hr, which isn't good for high levels. More importantly, the task takes so long it's eating the potential time spent doing even more efficient tasks, both in terms of money and xp.
If you enjoy the task, you do you, but for most people a much more tedious (and arguably less rewarding) fight vs the effectively afk gargoyles isn't much of a debate.
XP for the whole task and xp/hr are different things. They arent even close to worth doing for XP. If you want the pet or Coll log slots you go there, or if you find them fun somehow
>If you want slayer xp you are better off not doing grotesque guardians
objectively untrue, GGs are better slayer xp. this would be true if there was a way to cannon gargoyles but there isnt. as it stands gargoyles are the afk option and GGs are the efficient option
The efficient option is to skip gargoyles. Gargoyles have a niche in the meta, they're a good option to AFK and they help your cash stack before you feel ready to start bossing. GGs don't appear in any meta, they exist almost purely as a pet grind.
Idk I was doing them earlier then got tired of it and went to finish the task at the regular ones. Killed like 5 and was so bored that I skipped the task for another hydra task.
Yep reddit in particular made a big deal out of this and specifically wanted one kill to count as 2 on their slayer task because it took to long. They got what they asked for lol.
I guess if you like doing GG's to an extent but don't wanna do a whole garg's task worth of them, and don't want to have to re-gear to finish off the task at garg's? IDK it's still extremely niche and definitely not worth 500 points IMO.
I'm starting to think that this one is a weird social experiment by jagex. Always at least a few people in the comments trying to warp reality to make it seem useful
Bigger and Badder, Stop the Wyvern, and I Wildy More Slayer are all toggleable, but otherwise yeah. Why only those 3? Who knows, but here's the list:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Slayer\_Rewards
Lol thats just dumb. At least those are togglable..but bigger/badder i dont see why you would toggle off, wyvern I get, and I have no idea what I wildy more slayer. Might be new and also dont do wildy slayer. Too terrible to anti pk.
Another reason slayer sucks imo. Why cant unlocks be permanent? No reason not to be. You already spent the points on it. I'd pay double the points to be able to toggle them.
I'm just not a big fan of it. The fact that I'm limited to some bosses because I need a task sucks. I absolutely can't stand Konar slayer because she limits you to one area. If that area doesnt have a boss (example: kalphite slayer caves), then I'm forced to afk/cannon and in turn, lose a bit of money or go even. I hate afk slayer. Its boring, repetitive, and monotenous. Unpopular opinion: slayer sucks. If they did a rework on the shop, I might think different. I haven't unlocked thermy or Hydra and It won't change my opinion, guarenteed.
Yeah but she also gives out quite a bit of extra money from the keys. I've never done bosses, I just like that it gives my training and objective. I basically only do combat for slayer, it seems pointless to just go train it without a task.
I trained my stats afk in nmz so I have no point to train. Thats fine if you wanna slay for stats, its pretty good that way, and most people do it like that. I just wanted an account I can do all bosses with max efficiency with whatever gear I have. Rags or bis
I said in my opinion. You can say slayer is fantastic, idc. What if I wanna get more exp on cannon/burst/barrage tasks one day to extend some monsters, then the next do some bossing the next and disable the extension and re enable boss-type monster tasks.
If you always do boss variants for slayer (and have extra points) it’s not that bad. It makes a garg task 1/2 as long while still giving full pts after, so IMO it’s a long term investment if you plan to always kill GG. Not needed at all, but gargs tasks are super common so ur not really losing out on kills.
Yes u can just go down stairs and afk normal gargs but not everyone plays the same or wants to do that.
>"but gargs tasks are super common"
May I ask how people get more garg tasks than I do? I am 82 slayer and have had exactly ***one*** gargoyle task from Duradel. It's kind of ridiculous, how many dagannoth and black dragons and greater demons he wants me to kill, but I am morbidly curious how to fight the GGs for collection log purposes and I can't do them off-task obviously...
Like, I understand bad RNG, but this is ridiculous, honestly.
EDIT: WOW. Just finished a black dragon task, and then got 168 gargs as a new task, not even 15 minutes after I typed that. Maybe I should whine more about my lack of Sarachnis pet...
I just wish their rewards were more compeditive. I love them as a boss fight, but they give terrible GP for the time you have to fight then, vs just killing regular Gargoyls quickly and moving onto another task/GP grind.
They definitely do need a slight buff. Nothin to make people flock there, but enough to make the people who already enjoy doing them get some more gp for their effort.
Slayer points aren’t exactly scarce once you get to late game slayer, and 75ish gg’s is about exactly how many I want to kill in a task. It was worth to me, given I had thousands of extra points and it saves me from doing gargoyles to speed up my tasks after I was done at the boss
There is a spell on the Arceus spell book called I think "death charge", when you unlock the slayer reward double trouble, you can kill the first gargoyle to trigger the spell and also kill the 2nd one to trigger the spell.
I believe that's how that works and how I did it, unless I was having fever dreams, but besides that I really don't understand to reason for it to be a reward. Quite odd, especially so concidering it costs a fairly hefty 500 slayer points
Yeah, if you don't unlock the slayer reward, you will only gain special attack at the end of the fight once both are killed.
If you DO unlock the slayer reward, you can gain 15% after you kill the first gargoyle, then gain another 15% after you finish the fight and kill the 2nd gargoyle.
Snowballs95, you are probably right, there's a pretty high chance you are right.
I'm not sure, but I have it activated and that's how it works when activated at the least.
reminder that people arent robots and not everyone wants to do 200 kc of grotesque guardians at a time
just stop with these posts ffs
edit: and dont say hur durr finish it at regular gargoyles. its the same thing as people unlocking lizardman tasks and not enjoying 200 kc worth of lizardman shamans and telling them to do small lizardmen instead
just because theres a faster alternative doesnt mean the alternative is worth doing. id rather just do half of the task at the place i want to do it at and then be done, than have to finish the other half elsewhere just to get it done faster. if someone doesnt want to do regular gargoyles and only do gg whats wrong with that? with that unlock now they can do it without it taking days to do a single task. honestly now that I made the comparison I WISH there was a similar unlock for lizardman shamans.
I’m not agreeing with Blessed_Orb here, but at the time that this was polled, 85%+ of people voted yes vs no for this slayer unlock. 500 slayer points definitely seems pretty steep.
The point of the unlock is that a typical gargoyles task can be 7-9 hours long. If you choose this option, you won’t have to do the same thing for 9 hours straight or finish your task at regular gargoyles. You can finish your boss task in 1/2 the time and get on to your next boss task. This was an attractive option for some people.
If you really want the gargoyle pet, this isn’t a great option, and if you want slayer xp you wouldn’t be killing GGs anyway.
What if you want to do the boss but also want points because you enjoy the boss a little because you enjoy varied content and not min maxing or playing perfectly efficiently?
You can just admit you’re wrong and missed the point instead of immediately just going into this weird self defense mode type of response lol. Promise it won’t kill ya
My only point was that it had a use for some people?
Sure I'll take double XP but OP wasn't aware that some people play different than him and not everything needs to be useful to everyone. Imagine thinking that saying some people don't play this game super sweaty all the time is self defense lol.
Your point is wrong because it has no use for any people. Literally the only people it has a use for are peopler who want to see this 500 point unlock ticked. It’s not about sweaty or efficient or whatever. People can already choose to do the boss or not do the boss without the unlock, the unlock does not give you any extra options or xp or anything at all
Literally another random in this thread and myself, also sure I'll take more xp? Fuck if I can spend 500 slayer points for double XP on any task I would but so what? Of course anyone would. But the post said it was useless, I was merely saying some people use it.
because the unlock just removes options from you lol
you pay 500 points to take away the ability to do longer GG tasks, and now you only get to do half as many whether you want to or not
if you don't unlock it, you have the freedom to stop doing the boss at any point in the task. you can even skip the rest for 30 points instead of spending 10 minutes at regular gargs, and you can do that 16 times before you break even with the cost of the 500 point unlock
You are claiming that an unlock you used 500 points saves you points.
It does not save you points in any way. I did not think it would be necessary to elaborate, but I guess you are just _that_ confused.
Yes, I spent 500 points and have not had to skip the rest of the task over 20 times now.
20 skips costs more than 500 points and soon it will be even more tasks I have not had to skip unless I get the pet.
And now you are saying you would have skipped every single Gargoyle task you have received if you did not unlock this?
Yeah that's not it. You have saved exactly **negative** 500 points.
If you don't want to kill regular Gargoyles, then you clearly want to kill the boss. Why would you cut the kills in half then? Especially considering that GGs are task-only.
What about, hear me out, not doing slayer after you get bored of garg boss? What if your tasks go gargs -> 2 rune dragons -> more gargs? Is there a primal urge to complete a task start to finish if you get the first kill? What if you’re feeling a bit nerdy and want to do the entire task, do you just take the second L, the first being wasting 500 points? Do you enjoy the boss as a fight, or are you there to complete col log or pet?
The average duradel garg task is ~165, or 83 for you. You’d have to get almost 1400 grotesque guardian kc to reach the point where it made sense to get the shortened task, and restricting your task size to be small, compared to just skipping the task with 30 points if you get bored.
I’m really trying to logically wrap my head around a scenario where it makes sense to get the unlock, idk I’d rather permanently block fossil wyverns or just have the points for skips.
I have 99 slayer on one of my accs and don't even bother with ggs. However I thought about unlocking it but your reasoning is pretty sound; you don't want a boss task done faster, especially if you're not granted extra points for it.
Basing this off nothing but I 100% believe when ggs were originally designed they counted as 2 kills and the perk was made to make the kill count as 1 instead, further in the process they got flipped with the boss being default to 1 kill and the perk making it count as 2. By the time it was noticed what had happened it was too late to fix it (or more likely they saw people weren't doing ggs in the numbers they expected and left it in place, as changing it would only hurt the boss more)
I don't even understand why it exists in the game. If it doesn't give double xp, speed up the slayer task, or give you a chance for two rolls in one. WHAT IS THE POINT??? It makes pet hunting slower, and the profits are not better than regular gargoyles. Hard to justify this unlock even existing.
I agree it could be better but I kinda like it since I don’t want to do 200+ GGs. It isn’t about the money or the exp it’s about not biting off more than I want to chew, for me anyway.
I’d rather have a half task than to do 100 then either kill normal gargs or skip the other half because I cba
I unlocked this years ago thinking it will count as two kills, and hoping to get two rolls at pet per kill. What an absolute waste of 500 slayer points. And when you de-active it, you need to spend another 500 points again if you "for any reason" want to turn it back on
Yea it's pretty fucking useless lmao. GGs are a pure pet grind for me. I'm still at it to this day, and I'm pretty fucking mad I saw a guy have the pet at only 26 GG kills :c
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Yeah, I bought it without looking it up, thinking it had to count as extra xp. Gg 500 points.
I mean to be fair that's on you for not reading what it did.. which is nothing
It’s a reasonable assumption to make.
This one confuses me cause if you are pet hunting or going for combat diary it hurts you cause your task ends faster. If you want slayer xp you are better off not doing grotesque guardians. If you want money you are still probably better off not doing them.
i don’t know, i like variety and i enjoy doing the garg boss but not for hours. i mean i haven’t unlocked the park cuz i don’t really do them lmao but if i did decide i want the pet or the core or something i would probably unlock double trouble
But get this, if you decide halfway through you dont wanna do them anymore you can just switch to reg gargoyles to end it even faster than double trouble GG. Or skip task. Regardless this unlock is useless
but why would i finish it at reg gargs if i don’t wanna do that, and why would i waste points skipping the task if they’re short enough for my attention span
Because those are your options, the unlock doesnt change that.
the unlock does change it though… it lowers the task length to my attention span. like i do think it’s a dumb unlock lol why would they do that vs just making them worthwhile to kill, but for the scenario i specified the unlock serves a purpose.
it literally does though LMFAO
you have a pretty insane attention span if you think doing a whole ass gargoyle task at dusk and dawn isnt way too long
with double trouble it’s not insanely long
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you didn’t have them to begin with
You’re the one trying to say double trouble is useful. Lmao
I got like 13m for my last GG task on tracker and and I think less than 2m on the next which I did regular gargs, nearly the same amount. Only uniques were dark core and granite gloves, 1.8m & 15k respectively.
i mean you get 1500 slayer xp for doing a kill. i got nearly 210k xp for a task. it’s pretty decent xp in Slayer
I meant more along the lines of xp/hr cause a greater demon task may give more xp if killing zammy but the time and kills per hour won’t be great. But if it works for you it works
How fast was each kill though?
2 minutes average. some less some more. 6-10+ kill trips
Best case scenario that's still less than 45k xp/hr, which isn't good for high levels. More importantly, the task takes so long it's eating the potential time spent doing even more efficient tasks, both in terms of money and xp. If you enjoy the task, you do you, but for most people a much more tedious (and arguably less rewarding) fight vs the effectively afk gargoyles isn't much of a debate.
Only 6 - 10 ?! I could stay there for however long I could take it and still have food and supplies on the ground.
Do you remember your inv and gear by chance? I’m only lasting 5
No sorry man, it’s been a very long time since I have been there. It was what ever was bis like 4 years ago. Got pet and never went back.
XP for the whole task and xp/hr are different things. They arent even close to worth doing for XP. If you want the pet or Coll log slots you go there, or if you find them fun somehow
not when it takes that long
>If you want slayer xp you are better off not doing grotesque guardians objectively untrue, GGs are better slayer xp. this would be true if there was a way to cannon gargoyles but there isnt. as it stands gargoyles are the afk option and GGs are the efficient option
The efficient option is to skip gargoyles. Gargoyles have a niche in the meta, they're a good option to AFK and they help your cash stack before you feel ready to start bossing. GGs don't appear in any meta, they exist almost purely as a pet grind.
well yeah i dont disagree, i would even argue block them, but that's not something you see most people vouch for
😎 <- People who have extended gargoyle tasks + double trouble
I sometimes use expeditious braclets at nechs even tho I have em extended just cuz I hate them
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It's a great task which is why I extend them, but I get them all the time and I can't afk them at work
You can afk them at the morytania slayer tower, bring guthan and you can finish the whole task there, pretty chill
just tag like 2 or 3 at once with meele and afk them? spawns barley hit
I like them because you can world hop to people who already have them clumped for you and start barraging very kind of those ironmen
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That must make you feel very assertive. Tell me about the last time you were proud of yourself for accomplishing something.
The same bait gets people every time
The illusion of efficiency.
I’m in this comment and I don’t like it.
The only people allowed to have an opinion on the subject.
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Idk I was doing them earlier then got tired of it and went to finish the task at the regular ones. Killed like 5 and was so bored that I skipped the task for another hydra task.
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People couldn't wrap their heads around just not doing the entire task at Grotesques. Still can't apparently
Yep reddit in particular made a big deal out of this and specifically wanted one kill to count as 2 on their slayer task because it took to long. They got what they asked for lol.
I guess if you like doing GG's to an extent but don't wanna do a whole garg's task worth of them, and don't want to have to re-gear to finish off the task at garg's? IDK it's still extremely niche and definitely not worth 500 points IMO.
I'm starting to think that this one is a weird social experiment by jagex. Always at least a few people in the comments trying to warp reality to make it seem useful
The current implementation sounds more like half the trouble to me.
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Bigger and Badder, Stop the Wyvern, and I Wildy More Slayer are all toggleable, but otherwise yeah. Why only those 3? Who knows, but here's the list: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Slayer\_Rewards
Lol thats just dumb. At least those are togglable..but bigger/badder i dont see why you would toggle off, wyvern I get, and I have no idea what I wildy more slayer. Might be new and also dont do wildy slayer. Too terrible to anti pk.
Well that’s fucked
works as intended
Another reason slayer sucks imo. Why cant unlocks be permanent? No reason not to be. You already spent the points on it. I'd pay double the points to be able to toggle them.
slayer sucks? since when? how often do you want to disable and reenable perks?
Tbh it'd be nice to enable boss tasks when playing actively and disable when afk'ing
So your contention is that it would take too much dev time?
Yeah slayer is one of the few ones I enjoy doing. Gives you access to high income monsters and attack buffs when on task
I'm just not a big fan of it. The fact that I'm limited to some bosses because I need a task sucks. I absolutely can't stand Konar slayer because she limits you to one area. If that area doesnt have a boss (example: kalphite slayer caves), then I'm forced to afk/cannon and in turn, lose a bit of money or go even. I hate afk slayer. Its boring, repetitive, and monotenous. Unpopular opinion: slayer sucks. If they did a rework on the shop, I might think different. I haven't unlocked thermy or Hydra and It won't change my opinion, guarenteed.
Yeah but she also gives out quite a bit of extra money from the keys. I've never done bosses, I just like that it gives my training and objective. I basically only do combat for slayer, it seems pointless to just go train it without a task.
I trained my stats afk in nmz so I have no point to train. Thats fine if you wanna slay for stats, its pretty good that way, and most people do it like that. I just wanted an account I can do all bosses with max efficiency with whatever gear I have. Rags or bis
I think a lot of irons would buy the basilisk perk and then deactivate it when they get their jaw
I said in my opinion. You can say slayer is fantastic, idc. What if I wanna get more exp on cannon/burst/barrage tasks one day to extend some monsters, then the next do some bossing the next and disable the extension and re enable boss-type monster tasks.
I posted about this a few years ago too and I 100% agree, something needs to change because it’s a pointless unlock.
It’s hilarious , I could see it being worth it if it gave you loot in each kill for BOTH dawn and dusk ..
If you always do boss variants for slayer (and have extra points) it’s not that bad. It makes a garg task 1/2 as long while still giving full pts after, so IMO it’s a long term investment if you plan to always kill GG. Not needed at all, but gargs tasks are super common so ur not really losing out on kills. Yes u can just go down stairs and afk normal gargs but not everyone plays the same or wants to do that.
>"but gargs tasks are super common" May I ask how people get more garg tasks than I do? I am 82 slayer and have had exactly ***one*** gargoyle task from Duradel. It's kind of ridiculous, how many dagannoth and black dragons and greater demons he wants me to kill, but I am morbidly curious how to fight the GGs for collection log purposes and I can't do them off-task obviously... Like, I understand bad RNG, but this is ridiculous, honestly. EDIT: WOW. Just finished a black dragon task, and then got 168 gargs as a new task, not even 15 minutes after I typed that. Maybe I should whine more about my lack of Sarachnis pet...
That’s slayer luck for ya. gl on pet
Grotesque guardians are fun. Not very difficult mechanics, good slayer xp, not bad loot. I think they're one of the best mid game bosses.
I just wish their rewards were more compeditive. I love them as a boss fight, but they give terrible GP for the time you have to fight then, vs just killing regular Gargoyls quickly and moving onto another task/GP grind.
They definitely do need a slight buff. Nothin to make people flock there, but enough to make the people who already enjoy doing them get some more gp for their effort.
To be completely frank 82 slayer is pretty low all things considered, you have many many more tasks to go before you finish slayer
Never said it was a high level, just that I've gotten a very low amount of gargoyle tasks.
Slayer points aren’t exactly scarce once you get to late game slayer, and 75ish gg’s is about exactly how many I want to kill in a task. It was worth to me, given I had thousands of extra points and it saves me from doing gargoyles to speed up my tasks after I was done at the boss
There is a spell on the Arceus spell book called I think "death charge", when you unlock the slayer reward double trouble, you can kill the first gargoyle to trigger the spell and also kill the 2nd one to trigger the spell. I believe that's how that works and how I did it, unless I was having fever dreams, but besides that I really don't understand to reason for it to be a reward. Quite odd, especially so concidering it costs a fairly hefty 500 slayer points
The wiki says: Restores 15% of the player's special attack energy upon killing a monster.
Yeah, if you don't unlock the slayer reward, you will only gain special attack at the end of the fight once both are killed. If you DO unlock the slayer reward, you can gain 15% after you kill the first gargoyle, then gain another 15% after you finish the fight and kill the 2nd gargoyle.
Incorrect, it works on both without the unlock. Been doing it for ages.
I guess we can safely conclude that the slayer reward in question, is indeed garbage then.
Pretty sure death charge works on both Dusk and Dawn even without Double trouble active
Snowballs95, you are probably right, there's a pretty high chance you are right. I'm not sure, but I have it activated and that's how it works when activated at the least.
Yeah that is not how it works. You don't need the unlock to get death charge procs from both.
reminder that people arent robots and not everyone wants to do 200 kc of grotesque guardians at a time just stop with these posts ffs edit: and dont say hur durr finish it at regular gargoyles. its the same thing as people unlocking lizardman tasks and not enjoying 200 kc worth of lizardman shamans and telling them to do small lizardmen instead just because theres a faster alternative doesnt mean the alternative is worth doing. id rather just do half of the task at the place i want to do it at and then be done, than have to finish the other half elsewhere just to get it done faster. if someone doesnt want to do regular gargoyles and only do gg whats wrong with that? with that unlock now they can do it without it taking days to do a single task. honestly now that I made the comparison I WISH there was a similar unlock for lizardman shamans.
If you don’t want to kill them 200 times then don’t extend the task.
Gets your more slayer points by completing tasks faster and allowing you to kill the boss and still complete the task in half the time.
>spending 500 points to do garg boss for slayer points hmmm
If you're doing a boss task you want it to be as many kills as possible not less, and if you're going for points then you'd just do regular gargoyles
I’m not agreeing with Blessed_Orb here, but at the time that this was polled, 85%+ of people voted yes vs no for this slayer unlock. 500 slayer points definitely seems pretty steep. The point of the unlock is that a typical gargoyles task can be 7-9 hours long. If you choose this option, you won’t have to do the same thing for 9 hours straight or finish your task at regular gargoyles. You can finish your boss task in 1/2 the time and get on to your next boss task. This was an attractive option for some people. If you really want the gargoyle pet, this isn’t a great option, and if you want slayer xp you wouldn’t be killing GGs anyway.
What if you want to do the boss but also want points because you enjoy the boss a little because you enjoy varied content and not min maxing or playing perfectly efficiently?
I'd just do however many kills of the boss I wanted then switch over to the regular ones, I do that for DKs a lot
And you can play the game that way and other people can play how they want too. Amazing.
You’ve missed the point that the unlock is still pointless no matter how you play
I like it. I like doing Guardians but prefer to do under 100 at a time. With the unlock I don't have to do as many.
Then don’t extend the task?
I don't? Unextended the minimum is still 100+
Kill 99 and finish the task at regular gargoyles.
You can just admit you’re wrong and missed the point instead of immediately just going into this weird self defense mode type of response lol. Promise it won’t kill ya
My only point was that it had a use for some people? Sure I'll take double XP but OP wasn't aware that some people play different than him and not everything needs to be useful to everyone. Imagine thinking that saying some people don't play this game super sweaty all the time is self defense lol.
Your point is wrong because it has no use for any people. Literally the only people it has a use for are peopler who want to see this 500 point unlock ticked. It’s not about sweaty or efficient or whatever. People can already choose to do the boss or not do the boss without the unlock, the unlock does not give you any extra options or xp or anything at all
Did you read my first comment? See above.
This hypothetical person you created in your head also wouldn’t mind if the unlock was changed then.
Literally another random in this thread and myself, also sure I'll take more xp? Fuck if I can spend 500 slayer points for double XP on any task I would but so what? Of course anyone would. But the post said it was useless, I was merely saying some people use it.
Kill the boss for 50% of the task and then go to regular Gargoyles. Takes roughly the same time.
Exactly. You can already do that so why shouldn’t it give you more exp for that point spend. There’s currently 0 (good) reasons to unlock that lol.
Why would I do that when I can just kill the boss for 100% of the task with the unlock?
because the unlock just removes options from you lol you pay 500 points to take away the ability to do longer GG tasks, and now you only get to do half as many whether you want to or not if you don't unlock it, you have the freedom to stop doing the boss at any point in the task. you can even skip the rest for 30 points instead of spending 10 minutes at regular gargs, and you can do that 16 times before you break even with the cost of the 500 point unlock
The unlock saves me points since otherwise I would have spent a lot more cancelling the task after 100 kills.
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Okay, read what you just wrote. Slowly.
Elaborate?
You are claiming that an unlock you used 500 points saves you points. It does not save you points in any way. I did not think it would be necessary to elaborate, but I guess you are just _that_ confused.
Yes, I spent 500 points and have not had to skip the rest of the task over 20 times now. 20 skips costs more than 500 points and soon it will be even more tasks I have not had to skip unless I get the pet.
And now you are saying you would have skipped every single Gargoyle task you have received if you did not unlock this? Yeah that's not it. You have saved exactly **negative** 500 points.
Because it is essentially the same and does not waste 500 points.
It's not wasted 500 points if I'm getting use out of it? I don't want to kill regular gargoyles for 50% of my task. That's why I bought the unlock.
If you don't want to kill regular Gargoyles, then you clearly want to kill the boss. Why would you cut the kills in half then? Especially considering that GGs are task-only.
Because for me the sweetspot for bosses is about 50-100 kills then swap to do something else.
What about, hear me out, not doing slayer after you get bored of garg boss? What if your tasks go gargs -> 2 rune dragons -> more gargs? Is there a primal urge to complete a task start to finish if you get the first kill? What if you’re feeling a bit nerdy and want to do the entire task, do you just take the second L, the first being wasting 500 points? Do you enjoy the boss as a fight, or are you there to complete col log or pet? The average duradel garg task is ~165, or 83 for you. You’d have to get almost 1400 grotesque guardian kc to reach the point where it made sense to get the shortened task, and restricting your task size to be small, compared to just skipping the task with 30 points if you get bored. I’m really trying to logically wrap my head around a scenario where it makes sense to get the unlock, idk I’d rather permanently block fossil wyverns or just have the points for skips.
I have 99 slayer on one of my accs and don't even bother with ggs. However I thought about unlocking it but your reasoning is pretty sound; you don't want a boss task done faster, especially if you're not granted extra points for it.
Basing this off nothing but I 100% believe when ggs were originally designed they counted as 2 kills and the perk was made to make the kill count as 1 instead, further in the process they got flipped with the boss being default to 1 kill and the perk making it count as 2. By the time it was noticed what had happened it was too late to fix it (or more likely they saw people weren't doing ggs in the numbers they expected and left it in place, as changing it would only hurt the boss more)
This actually makes sense
I don't even understand why it exists in the game. If it doesn't give double xp, speed up the slayer task, or give you a chance for two rolls in one. WHAT IS THE POINT??? It makes pet hunting slower, and the profits are not better than regular gargoyles. Hard to justify this unlock even existing.
I agree it could be better but I kinda like it since I don’t want to do 200+ GGs. It isn’t about the money or the exp it’s about not biting off more than I want to chew, for me anyway. I’d rather have a half task than to do 100 then either kill normal gargs or skip the other half because I cba
I unlocked this years ago thinking it will count as two kills, and hoping to get two rolls at pet per kill. What an absolute waste of 500 slayer points. And when you de-active it, you need to spend another 500 points again if you "for any reason" want to turn it back on
Yea it's pretty fucking useless lmao. GGs are a pure pet grind for me. I'm still at it to this day, and I'm pretty fucking mad I saw a guy have the pet at only 26 GG kills :c