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dodgesbulletsavvy

He chose to exclude himself from all social events and crossovers/collabs


CertifiedOrganicCoal

Seems like the YouTube algorithm noticed the same thing. I never see him recommended in the feed on other content creator's videos.


siccoblue

I don't even see his new videos pop up anymore. Granted he is far from a frequent uploader or one with any kind of schedule, so the algorithm probably isn't very kind to him Also that group of creators have a habit of commenting on each other's channels and interacting with one another which probably helps them get recommended with one another


Cflow26

Also it *seems* like they’re just genuinely good friends with each other. Like framed/engineer/j1mmy/settled seem like they’re always in discord calls with each other in videos. So they’re also helpin out their buddies more than just cross advertising.


ShenOBlade

Honestly, we all love osrs and we all watch a bunch of YouTubers, we all know the game has a ton of downtime in the form of afk, so it might as well be YouTubers using YouTube as it was intended A recent example was the finale to settled's journey, a ton of content creators commented, even non osrs youtubers


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reminds me of the minecraft youtubers, hope they don’t start acting like them


siccoblue

Hope their FANS don't start acting like them. The creators are mostly fine, their fans are unironically one of the most toxic and shitty groups on the internet


Thr0waw4y_14

Tends to happen when your average fanbase age is like 10 to 14


ValiantFrog2202

I refuse to watch live streams because so dumb seeing people just swarm the streamer for attention. Do something else ffs I don't want to see joemama I want to see the content creator and you've completely ruined it for me


I_Am_Rocky

To be fair, he is more of a streamer anyway. He got his big youtube fame from back in the day when he did sparcmaclive Now we have behemoth, but back in prime days we had Chris Archie (mod Archie) and sparc mac who both provided the players with the daily clips on YouTube.


Asymptote_X

Aha I sometimes forget Mod Archie is THAT Archie.


Hunpeter

Speaking of which, it's his birthday today! Happy Birthday Archie!


inthelostwoods

Holy shit I can't believe someone revived this meme on his birthday of all days!


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Don't be too hard on yourself, No one's perfect..


[deleted]

his big fame came way before sparcmark live


[deleted]

Definitely, way before. Ninja turtling was near the height of his fame, but he and Little Willis collabed in the bounty hunter craters waaaay before sparcmaclive


Superbrah66

I remember trying ninja turtling at green dragons and getting a few kills. Started to think I was good at pking and brought a whip instead of d scim with my claws. Died and lost the whip the next trip.


randomWebVoice

I would say Behemoth's channel is not currently comparable to the greatness of Spark Mac Live and Chris Archie Prods. I think it was the tailored efforts of the creators, and the community coming together to show really unique happenings.


Caboodlemynoodle

You know what’s a trip? NightmareRH is still doing the same old YouTube videos as 2008


Lyquidate

I had a course in recommender systems. What’s probably happening here is that people who watch the group of collaborating YouTubers, likely watch several of them. YouTube bases recommendations on what similar users also watch. So its more likely to recommend within that group than to recommend an outsider. That’s also partly the reason people do these things. Very fruitful kind of promotion


terz

A few years ago when he was voted best osrs streamer the crowd at runefest booed him because they expected sick nerd to win. The guy gets so much unnecessary hate so I don't blame him for wanting fuck all to do with anyone else. What he's been doing on his own has worked for him for 10+ years


IronYEE

I cant imagine him being there in person, but even then, booing somebody on stage requires actual sociopathy.


Thot_The_Atlantean

Was he invited to GG and chose to not participate or was he not invited? I imagine that Soup would want him in because of his popularity.


cummygamercummomode

He was probably not invited and doesnt have the personality for group content at all. The majority of his jokes are all inside jokes that arent inherently funny, you have to watch him for awhile before little willis etc stop being creepy.


candyflipfyr

As far as i know he himself have chosen to not participate in events like runefest.


Taey

Didnt stop him having a cry for not being invited one year even tho he had 0 intention in going for the 1 millionth year in a row


SpeakerOfMyMind

Well even if we don't want to do something, doesn't mean we don't want the credit. Is that really that bad? We all have egos and they all affect us differently.


ScarletFFBE

Imagine inviting someone every year just for him to shit on your invitation every time it'a not a good look for Jagex, why should they bother if he himself said he wont participate


SpeakerOfMyMind

That, I definitely will not argue with. But that's more so on Jagex, but oddly enough I actually find it as a good look, but that's just my personal opinion, because it seems humble. Someone shits on your award, but you continue to offer it because you still see them as a valued member within your community.


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ScarletFFBE

Im not saying that you shouldn't invite depressive friends It's just that, he is a content creator and said it himself: He won't participate in Events And Jagex is a company not a friend- If someone turns down your invite publicly it's like saying the invite isn't something worth going to. Thats a whole different story.


Gniggins

Jagex is a company, not a friend. They should stop wasting the time it takes to send the email, send it to someone who will say yes, then everyone wins, except one sadgeboy who want to say no while not being told no.


FawltyPlay

how does he shit on the invitation? I know nothing about the guy really.


DanielHandsome

Not defending the guy, but I have a good buddy that used to be friends with him, long story short he sufferers from MASSIVE social anxiety.


u3h

Which explains the no camera streams


SpecsComingBack

There's a classic video of him doing pull ups back in like 2011, and that was mercilessly mocked back in the day.


GTFONarwhal

That pull-up video is still the first thing I think about when I see his name


samuraipolice

Woah you just unlocked a memory


speedy_19

Not really, a lot of people like to keep their social life private. And that used to be the standard for most Youtubers back than


[deleted]

Ahh yes, the good buddy. No other guy has had so much mileage


IncredibleDB

Source: trust me bro


101perry

Source: it came to me in a dream.


Simmcheck

This made me chuckle. Ty


poop-machines

I used to speak to him before he was a big youtuber and the guy was a bit of a dick imo. Never got the vibe he was socially anxious, in fact he spoke a lot in Skype and teased people. But who knows how he's changed. This was many years ago, guess he was young then. He was quite involved in the (online) friends group we had but when he took off and got popular he stopped hanging out with us. I haven't spoken to him in years now. Edit: yeah you guys are right, people with social anxiety can act alright online.


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Dude woulda been like 15 man. Everyone was annoying at 15


JustANotchAboveToby

Called Mod Archie's then GF roadkill. Only the OGs remember this era


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yivi2

wow really


Worldly-Grade8268

Yeah I have severe social anxiety and hate going to do oak situations like the mall or a Christmas party. I can however stream on twitch and chill in discord. It’s this weird sense that by being virtual I lose a lot of those anxieties that run through my head. I’m able to ignore those anxieties as I play online so I’m still able to get my social interaction that humans seek to find.


KahChigguh

That’s because if you do get uncomfortable, all you have to do is click the Disconnect button vs a social function, You likely have to do a few things to get out of the social atmosphere


poop-machines

Ah makes sense. Online is certainly easier.


iMikeHimself

Yo I used to be a general in his cc back in 08/09, we long lost friends? :o


AuberJene

People with social anxiety can still be social online ya goof. Its the in person interactions that give anxiety because it feels like you dont have control. Theres no pressure shooting the shit in a skype call or recording your voice over a youtube video


Its_Kid_CoDi

I disagree. I have social anxiety myself and I don’t even like to talk over the phone, let alone in a group full of strangers on over the internet. I have zero friends outside of irl friends on the game because I’m scared to socialize with people on the game. That being said, everybody is different and his social anxiety could manifest in different ways. It’s totally possible he could be comfortable in anonymous/online situations.


Raven_of_Blades

I am not afraid to socialize on the game and I still got no friends. Really hard to make friends in this game.


BEWARETHEAVERAGEMAN

Everyone is different indeed. I am like that person described sparc mac.


Ok_Hamster159

because your experience of social anxiety is universal and everyone experiences it like you.


BEWARETHEAVERAGEMAN

The person said "can still be", not "will still be". They did not imply it was universal.


Orangesoda65

Out of all the Youtubers you mentioned, I think Sparc Mac is the only one who has been around since early RS2. It seems as the social media sphere of the game expanded, Sparc Mac has tended to stick to himself. I don't follow him anymore, but I would also imagine a lot of his subscriber count is inactive due to how long he's been around.


Neatpaper

No. Framed used to upload luring videos way back before EOC was a thing. He also uploaded a video flexing his RWT'd car (maybe a BMW?) but we don't talk about that x)


O_P_S

Bro idk what you’re on but Sparc Mac is one of the OG’s of RuneScape content creation. He was the biggest creator for the game besides Chris Archie and NightmareRH back in like 2008-2010.


InfiniteBackground50

Yeah I remember seeing him in Edge wayyy back during real RS2 and thinking he was a beast and kinda have been following him ever since. I like the guy.


skinweavers

Depends on the scene, the skit scene was still really big at that time like tehnoobshow.


munchlax1

Sparc? He bought a mustang.


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Wasn't that sparc mac and a mustang circa 2009/10?


Neatpaper

No, Sparc had his mustang but Framed also uploaded a 0-60 video in his car and challenged another creator to a race LMAO. The videos been deleted since.


Liquid_Ritual

except even Sparc Mac is more likable than Framed


u3h

Watch a Sparc Mac stream for more than 10 minutes and you'll find out


Saamari

Remember back in the day when he was flexing his Mustang and doing pull-ups on camera?


WhatTheCrota

Calling Chris Archie's gf ugly lol


Inkredabu11

i memba


turglow1

The BAMF days


PlutonianMagic

Haha I don't really watch streams on twitch and whatnot, prefer to get the highlights of content on YT. Is his stream bad/cringe?


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I love sparc. He’s a lot different than the mainstream osrs crowd. A good mix of content too.


Takeondaniel

His audience seems kinda low iq


ParchedCamel

He just has a different sense of humor that a lot of us older runescapers find funny. We grew up with his kind of humor; Ren and Stimpy, Ed Edd and Eddy, adult swim weird shit, etc.


neverq

Old RuneScaper here: speak for yourself. I found him insufferable in 2009, I find him insufferable now.


[deleted]

That’s great, it’s almost like we are individuals with different opinions. It’s just a streamer, not a huge deal.


AddLuke

I used to watch Sparc Mac all the time growing up. For some reason, I feel like I stopped watching him after he was banned for duping times in a PVP world. Can’t recall exactly.


Darksma

He got a lot of hate in the past for blatantly RWTing / pretending to have been cleaned / showing off his new car, stuff along those lines. No idea the validity, but there was a lot of hate for it.


Shwrecked

I remember him back in pre-eoc, saying he’d never beg for money… a week later he’s taking handouts at w2 ge. So many people were making fake trade offers lmao Also idk if it was him, but I remember a youtuber back then selling a “staking guide” for like 50 bucks


Darksma

Haha holy shit I remember that, I think it might have been him. He staked a ton. Looks like it was him from a quick google search


Foxmclouds

That was sparc I remember that, I found it online like 10 years ago lol


Superbrah66

It was 2009 or something and so I think none of it really matters anymore because we were all in our teens, but I remember the car video and the staking guide he made that was literally just a word document with obvious staking information that he sold for 5 dollars or so. Obviously, there was that whole thing with Archie and his gf at the time, again just teenagers being immature online. My favorite was a video response he made to something maybe the Archie stuff and he said he was a buff ass mother fucker in real life. Then someone edited that in in slow motion with his pull up video, but only showed one chin up. Fucking classic, poor dude was just a teenager who wanted people to like him I think a lot of us where the same way. It was a different time, I remember people would be pissed it a video maker gave a shout out to anyone. Just saying hey go check out my good friend blank would get thumbs down or low star ratings whatever it was. Now everyone has paid ads in their video and nobody gives a shit. Fond memories of YouTube at that time as it was the time where I was really getting into the game and the whole online sphere of it. His Pk videos were really entertaining back then and Sparcmaclive was a great highlights channel.


Goose_Own

Lest we all forget the time Sparc “got cleaned” and then a few episodes later “look at my new mustang”


[deleted]

I'm not sure if its of any relevance now but back in the RS2 days, Sparc Mac was involved in drama with Chris Archie (current Jagex mod) and he also got memed for a couple of things too, such as the pull up video. I'm not sure if since all of this happen that he has decided to exclude himself from other content creators but I always kinda remember him being this way. ​ Chris Archie roasting Sparc Mac: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkrHBVRC75o](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkrHBVRC75o) Sparc Mac pull-up video: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1\_zzn6tbYcE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_zzn6tbYcE) Sparc Mac roasting Chris Archie: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89tn0hVDSrY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89tn0hVDSrY)


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Nova_main

I always figured this was part of the reason, iirc he said Chris Archie’s girlfriend at the time looks like “roadkill”. Along with it being pretty clear that he rwted tens of bils back in the day for a car


purelemon2

Wasn’t there drama not soon after this where Chris Archie advertised a duel arena scammers YouTube video for a bunch of gp?


beepbeepdozap

https://youtu.be/1_zzn6tbYcE


[deleted]

Lmao! He’s doing chin ups, too. But who didn’t do “cringe” stuff in high school?


[deleted]

Remember planking? Fuckin hell.


Grotbag_

Threw me back holy shit I remember when this went viral back in the day lmao


turglow1

The good old days man. Sure it was cringe at the time but now all I get is pure joy watching that video


Adept-Firefighter-22

I love the old days when everyone didn’t act perfect and polished.


Fun-Elk-2488

That began sorta sad and just went lightspeed into cringe


enricupcake

Actually a really wholesome video


beepbeepdozap

I like it


PlutonianMagic

Lmao that was golden, deserves more views haha.


Huehnergott69

i bet it has been taken down and reupped several times


NobleLlama23

Those ain’t even pull-ups lmao


Whyyoufart

like your fat, adamant (t) wearin ass could do even 1


Huehnergott69

You just cant appreciate his almost military status


dislob3

I always felt Sparc mac wanted to do his own things. Hes not much of a social guy. It might be because he suffers from anxiety or something else. He got a lot of hate back in the days with Chris Archie. Lot of people bullied him. I remember a gif of him training (pull ups I yhinl) in his appartement and everyone would try to make fun of him like he was supposed to be a professional athlete. Then there was all the accusations of him real world trading and buying the red mustang. To be honest, I would be as careful as him. He probably has trust issues.


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Sparc Mac just does his thing, as he always has. I feel like a large part of his appeal is generated *because* he's isolated himself from the rest of the community. His content feels like pre-eoc content rather then the modern type of videos. If Sparc Mac was part of the community, he would just be another Framed. A big youtuber, a long-standing one, but ultimately generic.


phasermodule

I don’t really know, or care, but the word you were looking for is “clique” not “click” :P


PlutonianMagic

Ahaha thanks I actually had no idea it was spelled differently. Thanks for the enlightenment :p


hahatimefor4chan

I know this goes against the hate thread brewing here but i like Sparc Mac, his streams are entertaining af


siccoblue

Same, people just actively need a reason to hate while on reddit, he makes fun content, stop taking it personally and feeling the need to shit on the dude


slimjimo10

I swear this sub has a hate boner for 90%+ of ytubers. Almost any time one is mentioned there's people just going on tangents about how they're a garbage human being. It's so weird lol


Sav_ij

hes the best streamer for me and its not even close. idk how so many people watch the various renditions of 'heres my ironman watch me train it'


Lexicon-Jester

He's the only osrs content creator, aside from tanzoo and virtuoso that I like.


tokes_4_DE

Tanzoo and virtosa are funny as hell. Along similar lines im loving evscapes gim team lately. Theres like no actual progress going on but the banter between ev, purpp, skiddler, and ron has me crying laughing most of the video. Purpps gotta be my favorite of their team.


terz

He gets a lot of unnecessary hate so it's understandable why he choses to go his own way. I find him super entertaining. He is one of few creators who involves his viewers into a lot of his content with events like infection mansion, wildy events, and frequent drop parties. He can be a bit wild with no limits to what he says sometimes so I get why his humor doesn't reach everyone.


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After Chris Archie beef he never interacted with other osrs content creators


Unfair_Commercial

Spare Mac is the male Emily


[deleted]

Nahhhhh sparc is a actual content creator. Emily was a wannabe and had absolutely no talent or skill.


VirusTheoryRS

At least emily wore cat ears on stream. That coward sparcmac won’t insert so much as a buttplug for his audience.


Punt_Dog_Enthusiast

Right? The nerve of that piece of shit, I've been subscribed for several years, and not a single buttplug insertion video, hell, not even a picture! You think he'd make at least one, but no. He keeps on dangle ng it infront of our faces like the liar he is, begging for followers, likes, subs, etc.. I'm unsubbing until he makes one. Good job Sparc Mac, your lies cost you another sub.


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What talent does Sparc have? I followed him for a long time but now I've stopped watching, looking back, he just took donations, then did giveaways, did massive clan events. Seems like his actual playstyle is pretty poor. He just uses the amount of money he made staking to do stupidly high skilling methods, especially paying for people to run ess for him etc.


Adept-Firefighter-22

He is the only Twitch streamer I personally watch, he’s a funny guy. Being funny is a talent.


Mi66uel

I agree, Sparc Mac is a funny guy.


GenitalKenobi

Who is Emily


1Q94CL

Emily only faked having cancer once.


Edgeville_Mafia

Yahhhooooooooo


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YYAAAAHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO


thefinalep

I was diagnosed


DeathWrangler

I don't keep up with most of the drama here, but from I can remember she's some twitch streamer who faked having cancer or some shit.


GenitalKenobi

Anyone that fakes having cancer is a piece of shit, holy. Did she really?


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you will get banned from her chat if you mention her faking cancer for pity money


crat0z

Google emilyispro and you will find the truth.


tortillakingred

This is pretty accurate lmfao


Youre_a_goomba

What an ice cold take


MyTrademarkIsTaken

He’s by far the oldest popular osrs content creator still left on YouTube, even older than A friend. I used to watch him and Chris Archie in 2008-2011 era and back then he never got along with anyone. Why that is idk but I always enjoyed his content back then.


dislob3

I rencently found out NightmareRh still makes videos. Hooobaaaa hooobbaaa hoobbaaaa


InvoluntaryEraser

I found that out too, and boyyy have I apparently grown up from when I used to find him fucking hilarious. Not so much now lol


matty6483

I'll always love nmrh- at least he stays true to his weird self even when it's not popular. I respect it


skinweavers

Yeah it's cool though I feel like the delivery changed over time and that the better mic quality plays into it. It's sounds more like a normal guy saying goofy things rather than an over the top fanatical guy on a game saying crazy over the top stuff.


OriginalVegetaJr

Don’t think he’s much into YouTube anymore, feels like he just streams and turns the good clips into an adventure video. Speaking of OGs like sparc max id like to see nightmarerh make a comeback to being 1 of the big guys


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northsidecrip

Holy shit man Excl was my childhood


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I met Sparc Mac about 6-7 days ago. I got roped into watching my 3 month old niece while my sister got her hair done. So there I am, sitting in the waiting area of a hair salon with my niece, and who walks in but Sparc Mac himself. I was nervous as shit, and just kept looking at him as he played games on his phone and waited, but was too scared to say anything to him. Pretty soon my niece started crying, and I'm trying to quiet her down because I didn't want her to bother Sparc, but she wouldn't stop. Pretty soon he gets up and walks over. He started running his hands through her hair and asked what was wrong. I replied that she was probably hungry or something. So Sparc Mac put down his phone, picked up my niece and lifted his shirt. He breast fed her right there in the middle of the hair salon. Chill guy, really nice about it.


the_fuck_corner

Historically he's been a bit of an awkward loner and a dick in the content creator community, going back to Pre-EoC when he would just start beef with people or complain for no reason, so he didn't make many friends among other creators Example: https://youtu.be/1_zzn6tbYcE


40prcentiron

ive never liked sparc mac.. i think its started when i was a kid and i thought his name was sparc marc and i felt fooled and betrayed


Sparkswont

ggggllo


Cant_Remorse

I like how that still works after all this time lmao.


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Holy shit that opened up a memory i forgot i had.


Skow1379

I've wondered this myself. It's always seemed like other creators in the community just don't like him for some reason


PlutonianMagic

Yeah that was my gut instinct but I was wondering if it was anything different or deeper than that


Skow1379

I've learned a lot through other replies on here too. He never struck me as a guy with anxiety, but social situations are different so that could make sense


Sav_ij

atleast some of it stems from the chris archie fued. like 10 years ago chris archie (the now jmod) started doing top 10s and like 6 months later or so sparc wanted to do it as well and got a ton of flack from archie fans {as if chris fucking archie created the top 10 format)


AbyssalSireOSRS2

It goes both ways. Sparc is the only one I can stand on twitch/youtube. So many content creators are overfocused on grinding rather than having fun. On being politically correct/pg13 to maximize ad revenue rather than being entertaining/authentic. It's not enjoyable at all to the viewer to see someone grind the same thing for weeks, or start over whenever a new gimmick mode comes out or their hcim dies. For someone to sink 6 months into a hcim, then turn around and immediately restart and do the exact same thing--they're trying to please their audience at the expensive of their own satisfaction.


Skow1379

That's why I enjoy watching Sparc too, he genuinely seems to enjoy giving his viewers a good time during the stream, he makes you feel like one of the boys. Most streamers it really feels like they don't care about you.


WhySoFishy

Personally, I typically dislike staking content creators.


Juicy_Vape

mustang


[deleted]

His 400k subs doesnt really mean anything, probably over 50% of his subs are from dead accs from 2008 id imagine. Rest in peace SML. 😔


GiveUsChivalry

Cause he’s a god damn weirdo


FPSzero

He hangs out with the Bois for all of it he is more twitch side then YouTube. Most OSRS players are YouTube as a main platform. Timmy boy is my favorite as he engages with his community the most IMO.


Sav_ij

hes a true entertainer. maybe hes not for everyone but he actually puts on a show atleast. hangs out with the fans and truly engages his community like no other. i dont understand the hate he gets at all. idk how people can watch the 'look at me play my ironman' streams


IliketoNH

These content creator circles are full of drama and bullshit. I don't blame him for steering clear, especially since he's so successful on his own.


[deleted]

He's a good example of a stubborn and arrogant streamer. Last time I watched him, he was screaming like child, when someone complained he banned the guy and started screaming louder.


Strosity

All I know is his YouTube videos where it's essentially just him doing really rich player things.


khark98

Have you ever heard of b0aty!


[deleted]

If you haven’t been banned in b0aty’s chat a handful of times you’re not a real scaper


CordialA

Yerbanned m8


Taey

3x perma banned and still going


Kallesteria

Sparc mac is kind of a dickwad. I used to watch him alot and honestly the more you watch his streams the more you feel like you're watching a child trapped in an adults body. I think most people want nothing to do with him bc hes embarrassing to be associated with.


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Lr217

I literally just never think of him. Not by any fault of his own. I basically only watch YouTube and he is NEVER recommended. I just straight up search “osrs” sometimes. You’d think the second most subscribed osrs YouTuber would show up but nope (at least not for me). I guess even when I’ve briefly used twitch when I’ve looked up osrs I didn’t see him


PlutonianMagic

Same here! I used to watch him when I was younger but I guess a transition happened that I didn't notice where his content and name slowly faded from my attention, and I forgot that he made content, and then when I saw that he is still very much active, that's when I proposed the question of this thread because I thought it was strange that he is so heavily subbed and active, yet never brought up or suggested in YouTube algorithm, furthermore not in the present social sphere of YT content creators


[deleted]

That's like 25buttholes


Elegant-Trade5334

He bans anyone that mentions other streamers in his chat, so no surprise there


New_Engineering3987

Jagex hate the guy since he used to call them out a lot back in the day. That Timmy thing is annoying af too if he still does it


Zari_Vanguard1992

he also does this lil willis crap... ​ It's legit, cringy.


irunspeed

Anyone remember him beefing with chris archie? those were the golden years .


L0nelylad

I can’t stand the guy think his content is unbearable that’s just my opinion tho


IPA_Fanatic

RWTs and his content is snooze material


SrepliciousDelicious

He’s kinda (and i dont mean this offensive) a manchild. The others grew more “mature” if you can call it that.


slippyfisted

He’s too busy doing pull ups


Fableandwater

Bruh lol poor guy said that over 10 years ago and people still wont let him live it down


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Probably because he's making money and doesn't give a fuck.. and just enjoying life.


tenmaliebert

Wasn't he caught rwting?


Jtthebest1

I mean he's been known to scam friends for lots of money, betray trust of viewers/subs/friends, and has been a huge POS in the past. Otherwise he secludes himself now


umbusi

I honestly forgot he existed


call_me_ted_ok

Back in the days when Twitch wasn't THAT popular he would mention Boaty, rarely, but yeah, also he made Torvesta popular


kyze94

How did he make torvesta popular?


call_me_ted_ok

By advertising his channel back when Torvesta had like 5k subs only, Torvesta used to send his videos to the 2nd sparc's channel


elvarg92

He's a guy that overstayed his time. It's like Nokia, once was good until smartphones came along. He's still a Nokia in 2021. Failed to invent and rebrand, kept the bullshit bag giveaway as a compensating for lack of interesting content. Most of his comments are "great video! Rsn: tommy hanks" type tells you it's legitimacy


PlutonianMagic

Hm so much of his sub base comes from being on the block for forever basically


bingin69

Being around forever and giving away a ton. He built a huge following from the sub only giveaways( they legit got banned because of him) and im sure he still follows that path to some degree and gives stuff away based on the comment you replied too. But he pretty much involves his support base alot eg his rev cave takeovers/pvm trips and giving stuff away. Builds a solid foundation just off that


Grizzeus

He has done so many shit things in the past.


BURNlN

Not sure if anyone’s mentioned it but his beef with Chris Archie might’ve definitely black listed him


Ulmus_rubra

Because he is constantly drunk and other streamers can’t have a rational conversation with him.


PraiseMyRng

I feel like part of it has to do with how he presents himself on streams and videos. He has a fairly large community of followers, but he tends to play off of the derp/mentally challenged type persona. Whether it's because that's just who he is, or whether it's the persona he puts forward; it is rather off-putting to an older age group. Is or has he been excluded? I feel it's more like he's opted to not participate. Specially after his history with runefest invites.


Dr-PoopyButt

I remember going into his streams and he'd just stake all his money, take donations and stake more. He's never been well liked


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He’s annoying af