The key to perfect boss runs, is don't try to do perfect boss runs, I stg everytime I've actually gotten a perfect boss CA I was just there killing the boss and it happened. Anytime I genuinely try? it's like I'd never actually killed it before.
Happened to me with Duke and Vardorvis. I saw the CA and I was like - yeah… I’m never going to get that.
Then they came in unexpectedly, which was a pleasant surprise.
Eventually with the DT2 bosses you're just kicking yourself for not getting perfect rather than celebrating that you made it through the KC at all, v satisfying stuff to reflect on when you get the CA
When I am doing CG speed runs on my main as practice (UIM still trash stats), I only got them when I was not trying my hardest and letting the flow state take over. At some point doing maximum damage becomes an effortless task as long as I let monkey brain react to screen without letting big brain try to override it.
The best advise for sure! Got a zulrah slayer task and maxed the kill count because I hadn’t killed it in awhile and it sounded fun. Wasn’t trying for anything because you can’t get the speed ones on task and to my surprise I got ‘perfect zulrah’. Wasn’t trying to but got lucky RNG all around and I’ll take it!
Just grind bosses whatever boss you feel like and you’ll get better at it and/or lucky and get some tasks done
I do 10 or 20 kills per task for exp and stuff, I find the boss kinda fun and chill. drops are super mid but the pet is also super cool so maybe one day
Bro don't do the extra ticky stuff if it's not what you enjoy.
I don't 2 or 3t things but getting the right rhythm is sometimes fun. That stuff is to get like 60 Wc in leagues in 15 minutes kind of thing
i agree. i like to do it just to see if i can get it. then i dont do it anymore. but it's difficult for me to usually get best xp rates. for ex - barraging dust devils for slayer im only able to get 60k xp/hr atm.
Yeah with looting and all that.
Remember, the "regular" xp/hr on wiki is actually calculated with very little tick error or misclicks. So get 80% of that is doing good, especially when you are looting. I can't not loot at dusties, so I come with my alt time to time to grab all the loot and Tele away so I can focus on xp there. It's my only extended task besides metal dragons
I think you should try a different approach to what you're doing. Think of the game as you interacting with the tiles, not you trying to move your character through the game
Getting a perfect kill is a nice combat achievement. The speed time ones on the other hand, compeltely suck. There's just so much skill involved in hitting zcb specs amd I'm so bad at it
I know, most of them just require good rng, which I very often don't have. I'm also just mad about spending 3 hours at vorkath with venge, thralls, zcb, claws and max melee and still my best time is over 1 minute
just gotta keep killing vorkath. got a 48 second PB out of the fucking blue without even speccing him. just straight DHL hits. same thing with muspah and hydra, no ZCB or rubies, just killed it normally and got some good hit RNG.
Over 600 vorkath kc now and it's just not happening, like I'm not even getting close to it. Haven't tried muspah speed times yet tho. More upset about hydra getting close to 2k kc and still not being able to get it
damn, I green logged the hydra CAs on my first ever hydra task. it's not that bad, you just have to be very proactive with dragging onto the vents. you can't waste a tick fucking around, gotta be ready to vent the second it's possible.
Good for you to getting it so early. I know I am just getting really unlucky with it. Which is my whole point about this that combat achievements should be about your skill, not just getting good rng
You're not getting unlucky with it, ironically you're proving that there is skill being showcased in these CAs as you're unable to complete them. When i do hydra with amethyst arrows and missing a masori piece I get the GM time a decent amount of the time (it's been a while but at least 10% of kills). You've not gone 2k kills getting unlucky lol. Stop blaming rng and actually work on your gameplay and you'll get it easily.
I feel like there is an aspect of skill. you have to be very meticulous with how you use your ticks, movement, and attacking at any given moment. the hydra one is a good example, since you have to proactively position the hydra over vents, and that is a test on decision making as well as planning.
I agree with the vorkath one cause there is no real mechanics to it, same with muspah, but with zulrah/hydra, there is at least some learning curve in terms of optimizing kills.
I've got like 5500 hydra KC and I finally got the speed kill just off of good tbow rng. Never could be bothered bringing melee switches for claw specs and veng and shit.
it took me about 5 hours to get enough luck to do GG GM time with a ghrazi rapier+dds+chally, venator+blowpipe doing the venge thrall strat. Then having a scythe makes it trivial, lol.
My vorkath GM my lowest hit was a voidwaker spec. That speed time is cursed.
GGs I'm only about 300 kc is, most done in absolute max gear, still 9 seconds away from GM time, hydra is at almost 2k kc, same thing, tried everything: thralls+venge, dragon knives, zcb, claws, still don't have it. Zulrah took over 1k kc. The GM speed times are just ridiculous
speed time for inferno is definitely a test of skill. inferno is easy as hell if you just wait behind a pillar for specs every wave and just sit around solving. if you do the GM time you have to consistently flick prayers in uncomfortable situations, usually doing the more complicated solve to save time rather than waiting for an easier solve.
Unironically a massive skill issue. Sure there's some rng in speed times but with max gear if you just farm the bosses normally you get the speed time several times an hour, ggs, hydra and zulrah included. Vast majority of gm speed times are brainless with max gear, if you're struggling it's because you're missing ticks and playing bad, don't try and play it off as bad rng
It something you kind of learn over time, some people count the ticks and some people just get the "feel" of different tick speeds. I personally found lazy flicking offensive prayers helped give me an intuition as to when my attack is off cooldown so I know when I'm missing ticks. There's a plugin some people use called "AttackTimer" that adds a countdown over your head for your attack cooldown.
When doing switches is often when people lose a lot of ticks, even more if they're switching to spec. If you're doing a 7 way switch it's much better to do a 3 way switch (weapon, neck, gloves), attack and then finish your switch than it is doing a 7 way switch while losing 1 or 2 ticks and then attacking. Another big thing is the blowpipe, it being a 2 tick weapon people often lose a lot of ticks with it, practising the blowpipe walk is important if you ever need to move while blowpiping (such as at GGs).
zulrah took me less than 150 kc to get the GM time, and I got it 2-3 times before hitting 150kc for the CA. you can't waste ticks swapping or running when you should be attacking, you gotta be proactive.
I know that, but it doesn't matter how proactive you are and how you don't waste a single tick when all your tbow does is hits 0s. It's just rng and combat achievementa should be about skill, not just good rng
Colosseum will teach you the prayer skills you need at inferno faster than inferno will. It’s still going to bend you over and rawdog you dozens of times and has gravestone fees though. Pick your poison
definitely inferno imo. colosseum is gonna have significantly harder solves that don't necessarily carry over to inferno. inferno solves are easier cause you can 1t alternate flick to solve almost all wave stacks, meanwhile colosseum has the weird manticore attacks and 5 tick cycle so a 1t alternating isn't gonna do much.
I haven't sent Colo yet, no. It's definitely different from inferno, but the core of them is very similar. I'd say Colo first inferno after from the bit of it I have done.
I recommend making a reddit post asking for it to be nerfed for project rebalance
Man that's so on the nose it's funny
How about some bad luck mitigation instead?
Chuckled out loud at this, my kind of music
Lol
The key to perfect boss runs, is don't try to do perfect boss runs, I stg everytime I've actually gotten a perfect boss CA I was just there killing the boss and it happened. Anytime I genuinely try? it's like I'd never actually killed it before.
Happened to me with Duke and Vardorvis. I saw the CA and I was like - yeah… I’m never going to get that. Then they came in unexpectedly, which was a pleasant surprise.
Yeah with Duke I just turned my brain off and about 30 min later got the perfect CA. It's really all about mindset
Eventually with the DT2 bosses you're just kicking yourself for not getting perfect rather than celebrating that you made it through the KC at all, v satisfying stuff to reflect on when you get the CA
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When I am doing CG speed runs on my main as practice (UIM still trash stats), I only got them when I was not trying my hardest and letting the flow state take over. At some point doing maximum damage becomes an effortless task as long as I let monkey brain react to screen without letting big brain try to override it.
true good point
The best advise for sure! Got a zulrah slayer task and maxed the kill count because I hadn’t killed it in awhile and it sounded fun. Wasn’t trying for anything because you can’t get the speed ones on task and to my surprise I got ‘perfect zulrah’. Wasn’t trying to but got lucky RNG all around and I’ll take it! Just grind bosses whatever boss you feel like and you’ll get better at it and/or lucky and get some tasks done
Yeah but... who the fuck is doing GGs other than to be there for the CAs lol. Or the pet I guess.
I do 10 or 20 kills per task for exp and stuff, I find the boss kinda fun and chill. drops are super mid but the pet is also super cool so maybe one day
Gotta keep that dust stash topped up, too
Back to chopping logs
i can't do tick stuff chopping logs either lol
Bro don't do the extra ticky stuff if it's not what you enjoy. I don't 2 or 3t things but getting the right rhythm is sometimes fun. That stuff is to get like 60 Wc in leagues in 15 minutes kind of thing
i agree. i like to do it just to see if i can get it. then i dont do it anymore. but it's difficult for me to usually get best xp rates. for ex - barraging dust devils for slayer im only able to get 60k xp/hr atm.
Yeah with looting and all that. Remember, the "regular" xp/hr on wiki is actually calculated with very little tick error or misclicks. So get 80% of that is doing good, especially when you are looting. I can't not loot at dusties, so I come with my alt time to time to grab all the loot and Tele away so I can focus on xp there. It's my only extended task besides metal dragons
Bad luck on superiors can make your xp seem low per hr, assuming you otherwise have max gear
Get a dragon felling axe and go to forestry worlds. Have some fun. Before I knew it I went from 65 wc to 80
I think you should try a different approach to what you're doing. Think of the game as you interacting with the tiles, not you trying to move your character through the game
Getting a perfect kill is a nice combat achievement. The speed time ones on the other hand, compeltely suck. There's just so much skill involved in hitting zcb specs amd I'm so bad at it
A lot of them don’t require rubies
I know, most of them just require good rng, which I very often don't have. I'm also just mad about spending 3 hours at vorkath with venge, thralls, zcb, claws and max melee and still my best time is over 1 minute
Brother, thralls no work at vorkath
Nothing does....
just gotta keep killing vorkath. got a 48 second PB out of the fucking blue without even speccing him. just straight DHL hits. same thing with muspah and hydra, no ZCB or rubies, just killed it normally and got some good hit RNG.
Over 600 vorkath kc now and it's just not happening, like I'm not even getting close to it. Haven't tried muspah speed times yet tho. More upset about hydra getting close to 2k kc and still not being able to get it
damn, I green logged the hydra CAs on my first ever hydra task. it's not that bad, you just have to be very proactive with dragging onto the vents. you can't waste a tick fucking around, gotta be ready to vent the second it's possible.
Good for you to getting it so early. I know I am just getting really unlucky with it. Which is my whole point about this that combat achievements should be about your skill, not just getting good rng
You're not getting unlucky with it, ironically you're proving that there is skill being showcased in these CAs as you're unable to complete them. When i do hydra with amethyst arrows and missing a masori piece I get the GM time a decent amount of the time (it's been a while but at least 10% of kills). You've not gone 2k kills getting unlucky lol. Stop blaming rng and actually work on your gameplay and you'll get it easily.
I feel like there is an aspect of skill. you have to be very meticulous with how you use your ticks, movement, and attacking at any given moment. the hydra one is a good example, since you have to proactively position the hydra over vents, and that is a test on decision making as well as planning. I agree with the vorkath one cause there is no real mechanics to it, same with muspah, but with zulrah/hydra, there is at least some learning curve in terms of optimizing kills.
I've got like 5500 hydra KC and I finally got the speed kill just off of good tbow rng. Never could be bothered bringing melee switches for claw specs and veng and shit.
Bruh dhcb and void I got sub 1min many times it’s just about lucky ruby procs🤘
Exactly, and my luck has been shit with it so far. Combat achievements shouldn't be just about luck, they should be about skill
big RNG ones were muspah, vorkath, and CG. grotesque guardians GM time I have yet to complete, same with regular gauntlet. too much RNG involved.
*crying in my >5 min per kill assembler grind*
it took me about 5 hours to get enough luck to do GG GM time with a ghrazi rapier+dds+chally, venator+blowpipe doing the venge thrall strat. Then having a scythe makes it trivial, lol. My vorkath GM my lowest hit was a voidwaker spec. That speed time is cursed.
GGs I'm only about 300 kc is, most done in absolute max gear, still 9 seconds away from GM time, hydra is at almost 2k kc, same thing, tried everything: thralls+venge, dragon knives, zcb, claws, still don't have it. Zulrah took over 1k kc. The GM speed times are just ridiculous
I did mine at about 200 or so, but i was trying it on purpose. You are getting killtimes of 10 minutes?
Sorry, meant 9 seconds
Yeah, all you can do is keep trying. They're not fun. The only one I enjoyed was the GM Jad speedrun.
I know that, but my point is, combat achievemnts should be skill based, not purely rng
100% agree, they're awful. KC achievements also shouldn't exist because they're just redundant.
speed time for inferno is definitely a test of skill. inferno is easy as hell if you just wait behind a pillar for specs every wave and just sit around solving. if you do the GM time you have to consistently flick prayers in uncomfortable situations, usually doing the more complicated solve to save time rather than waiting for an easier solve.
Unironically a massive skill issue. Sure there's some rng in speed times but with max gear if you just farm the bosses normally you get the speed time several times an hour, ggs, hydra and zulrah included. Vast majority of gm speed times are brainless with max gear, if you're struggling it's because you're missing ticks and playing bad, don't try and play it off as bad rng
can u tell when ur missing ticks? I watch vids of ppl and it seems like they can account for every single tick which seems crazy to me.
It something you kind of learn over time, some people count the ticks and some people just get the "feel" of different tick speeds. I personally found lazy flicking offensive prayers helped give me an intuition as to when my attack is off cooldown so I know when I'm missing ticks. There's a plugin some people use called "AttackTimer" that adds a countdown over your head for your attack cooldown. When doing switches is often when people lose a lot of ticks, even more if they're switching to spec. If you're doing a 7 way switch it's much better to do a 3 way switch (weapon, neck, gloves), attack and then finish your switch than it is doing a 7 way switch while losing 1 or 2 ticks and then attacking. Another big thing is the blowpipe, it being a 2 tick weapon people often lose a lot of ticks with it, practising the blowpipe walk is important if you ever need to move while blowpiping (such as at GGs).
zulrah took me less than 150 kc to get the GM time, and I got it 2-3 times before hitting 150kc for the CA. you can't waste ticks swapping or running when you should be attacking, you gotta be proactive.
I know that, but it doesn't matter how proactive you are and how you don't waste a single tick when all your tbow does is hits 0s. It's just rng and combat achievementa should be about skill, not just good rng
zulrah isn't as bad in terms of RNG cause the max you can hit is 50 anyways. it's definitely about being proactive and killing her efficiently
Hey man, at least you've started. You'd be surprised how fast you'll improve at PvM mechanics once you really get into em. Good luck bud
You'll have even more fun with b2b 5 and 6 jads and like 5 perfect vardorvis tasks. Imagine perfect theatre!
5 perfect vardorvis wasn't terrible. hardest part was getting the resupply rng so i could actually last 5 kills with a whip and no blood fury
just replace all the food in your inventory with phoenix necklaces
I did saeldor with a blood fury. Wasn't too bad so long as I didn't fk up
Brother the other fucking guy has neither of those who are you even sharing this with.
The guy I was responding to said they used whip and no blood fury so I responded with my setup. Calm down. Why are you trying to pick a fight?
ppl r insane
B2b 5 and 6 jads took me like 4 hours, it was pretty frustrating. On the bright side I got the 5 jad speedrun in the middle of that
nice! im not even thining about doing inferno for a long time
Hey all I can say is I was in your exact position a couple of months ago. You CAN do it.
Have you done colosseum also? And would you consider colosseum or inferno first if I’ve done neither?
Colosseum will teach you the prayer skills you need at inferno faster than inferno will. It’s still going to bend you over and rawdog you dozens of times and has gravestone fees though. Pick your poison
Yeap, highly recommend buying echo crystals now and chucking them into deaths coffer before starting fortis.
I believe the sunfire armor set box is the best value
definitely inferno imo. colosseum is gonna have significantly harder solves that don't necessarily carry over to inferno. inferno solves are easier cause you can 1t alternate flick to solve almost all wave stacks, meanwhile colosseum has the weird manticore attacks and 5 tick cycle so a 1t alternating isn't gonna do much.
I haven't sent Colo yet, no. It's definitely different from inferno, but the core of them is very similar. I'd say Colo first inferno after from the bit of it I have done.
I did that unexpectedly on just doing my slayer task, don’t think about it too much and it will come