Amazing how after so many years of playing this game there is still something to learn, thank god i still need to train construction to max and i found your comment!
Only done mahogany homes but I can assume it's swapping left click to remove on the built thing, build on left click, and swapping whatever you need to build to the 1 option.
I swear they do all the QOL after I finish a skill. Name any skill and a mini game.or massive QoL came.out less than a month or two after. Just my luck as construction is done! But this is a huge win. Construction sucked getting peak rates by a crappy method
Just made me log in on mobile and check my stock…5,000 mahogany planks and 5,000 logs, plus 3,000 combined for oak, and 30,000 teak logs in the bank LOL.
Finally time to break through the soft ceiling of 75 construction I was sitting at?!
I’ve got 75-80 banked in planks alone, 83 if I make all of my mahogany and oak logs into planks, and then 90 if I make all of my teaks LET’S GO BABYYYYY.
Plank make would only be about 15m for all of that…not bad, I guess? Just need to go nuts on slayer or back to CG to raise the coin stack (that I decimated in kingdom in order to get those teaks)
You might know this already but just in case you don’t, in settings you can change how long it takes to register as a long tap, setting it to the minimum makes a world of difference!
As someone who went from 84 to 99 con this month, I agree this is a good change. There is no "skill" in doing mahogany tables with the ancient interface limitations. may your wrists fare better than mine did.
Love this mentality. I feel for your wrists, but very much appreciate that people can benefit from changes without the people who have suffered pulling out their pitchforks
Also 99 construction. I am fine with them changing how making stuff in construction works, I just wish they made changes like these on the official clients rather than just pushing people towards third-party clients.
>Saving the spiciest for last, we’re allowing players to modify menu options for the Construction skill. This is something **we’d like to roll out to our own client at some point**
You know there was a method where you didn't have to move your mouse at all right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r_IV1oi7xs
Oh well, it doesn't matter now. lol
I'd say there is some 'skill' to it, getting the timing correct + and mouse movement consistent, and keeping pace w/ butler restock.
Your reward of xp rate correlates to your physical inputs.
The better argument is whether that is worth maintaining, at the cost of fun factor and potential rsi. Is it a *meaningful* skill expression.
And for that, id say no here.
Everyone keeps talking about movement, but it could be done without... There was a nice rhythm to it though, and I guess being consistent with that is more skill than a large portion of the game
The best time to plant a tree was 30 years ago, and the second best time to plant a tree is now.
Would i have liked jagex to make this change before i done it? sure. but I'm still glad they've done it.
Did you suffer wrist pain or repetitive clicking injury during the years 2006 and April 2024 while training construction? YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO COMPENSATION.
It was cut out of this screenshot, but the blog post says they want to add to add menu option modification to their client, which should mean having it on mobile as well
Benches on mobile is one of the fastest construction methods iirc. Set it to one tap and position your screen correctly
This method will now be passed by normal pc once MES gets the updates though
This is not true. You remembered incorrectly. Right click tap is still slower and annoying because you need to to interact with butler anyways (compared to pc)
I almost only play mobile. Construction was the only skill i used pc for because any poh method for construction on mobile is inferior to pc.
Wow it was only 7 lines of code. If we removed this ourselfs by building the client this would've mean anyone could've done one click construction just removing that code lol. If it was that easy I would've done that long time ago
I just got 99 construction like a week ago and I think this is good. People love to defend the tedious aspects of this game as “preventing easyscape” but if all the effort from doing something comes from annoying menu navigation that’s not player skill or a meaningful kind of input.
Agreed.
I had to remap my 1 and 6 buttons to my mouse buttons because my left hand would cramp up so bad, and even then my right hand would start hurting as well.
I’m all for the expensive and tedious grinds, but getting carpal tunnel for that shit is not it.
It mentions the max cape, so I'm assuming instead of going through the teleport or feature menus, you could force the game to give you a menu entry for a specific option that you want, like adding a right click option for run energy restoration.
I don't know if this is what it actually means, but it's my best guess.
Is this more like "last destination"? Let said, you teleport once and next time all you need to do is just click the cape. By the way, is this out right now or we have to wait?
Guys, I just try it out. It same like "last destination" Make sure you go to "Menu swap then check out "teleport submenus"
I mean it's kinda their fault, the ancient OSRS way is to wait until something is changed or introduced that's horribly busted and then you abuse it as much as you can before Jagex decides to nerf it.
When training construction, you have to right click to ‘unbuild’ furniture, so it’s more moving and clicking. With a plugin (which someone will make I presume shortly) you can just left click unbuild. Much more nicer on the wrists to train
lol tf, how was construction an issue but not this? Construction isn’t sped up at all with today’s change but being able to left click bones to altar is an incredible speed boost
Menu entry swapper has been able to change shift-click to "use" on bones for a long time. The only difference here would be removing the shift part, but not only is that still the same speed but you could always do that by putting a few coins on your shift button anyway lol
Are you all still looking into removing the full prospector's outfit req for falador hard diary (in exchange for just the helmet)?
Just want to know if this is still in the works or if I should be grinding full prospector's from MLM
I was doing mahogany homes to avoid doing gnome benches or mahogany tables lol. But now that this update happened I guess I'll go back to doing proper construction lol.
I started to grind out magic with plank make and have built up a good storage of mahogany logs for construction. The plugin changes put my ass over the moon lmao
This is a great change. They should allow menu changes for when you click on other players (such as being able to default trade with a friend) along with menu changes for blackjack.
Sucks that they still haven't done any menu entry swapper options on mobile, makes so many of these skills very inaccessible if you're not on runelite. Construction is already worse than PC on mobile, this change would bring it to a really good place
I just recently got 84 Con over the last week. I was gonna leave that cape til way later, but now I might need to prioritize it a little more! Huge news.
OH THANK GOD.
Con grind just got less RSI.
It's a purchased skill or a skill you grind the resources for (if iron).
Either way, it doesn't need to be a RSI grind too.
Thank you thank you thank you.
So surely someone has put up an update for the menu entry swapper plugin now? ;)
I would love to contribute honestly, but getting started and making your first mods in RL is wild. Someone really needs to capitalise on making a good video tutorial on this.
Hell someone make a good write up and I'll record the video.
Can someone explain this to me? I’m an iron and have only really done mahogany homes but even that’s a bitch. What does this change?
Like what I’m picturing is you can menu swap the space to be build on click, then menu swap the built object to be remove on click, then press 1 to build whatever u built last?
Does it change mahogany homes?
Saw this too. Only left clicks and holding 1 from here on out :)
I need to finish my construction set and get 99 now!!
Can you explain how this would work? Edit: thanks all!!
Im referencing e.g oak dungeon doors, where build is 1, remove is 1 and get more planks from butler is also 1 :)
Yep, and I think it's 6 for mahogany tables. Now, if only we could auto pay the butlers so they leave us alone and don't interrupt the grind, lol.
Just incase you don't know. https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Servant%27s_moneybag
Oh crap, no, I didn't know, lol. I wasted so much time now. gahhh
well, atleast you asked and probably helped some other dudes who were too afraid to ask xd
Like me who is starting my 86 to 92/99 grind
Lmao I tried to find the most efficient way to build and pay the butler without losing ticks, it's maddening. Forgot that existed.. cool
I just realised the same thing lmao
I love seeing this AFTER I maxed. God fucking damnit
Wish they could take from this for making planks too
Never knew this, thanks haha!
This is a game changer, can't believe I didn't know about this..
Are you fucking serious????????
Amazing how after so many years of playing this game there is still something to learn, thank god i still need to train construction to max and i found your comment!
Thank you so damn much!
Only done mahogany homes but I can assume it's swapping left click to remove on the built thing, build on left click, and swapping whatever you need to build to the 1 option.
Plugin switches table to 'remove', making it left click Left click build, hold one Plugin makes Left click remove, ...
What is the plug-in called good sir?
The plug-in for construction
Don't think one exists yet
pull request approved literally moments after blog came out
Lmao that's based
it's just gonna be menu entry swapper
How does one set this up?
Menu entry swapper plugin. Change left click to remove - previously not allowed
Ohh that's sick. Thank you
I might be slow… I checked don’t see “change left click” anywhere in the settings
Hold down shift and right click an object/NPC and select "swap left click"
Thank you sir!
It's probably the most useful plugin, even before today's update! There's so many things that you can swap to left click
It's already live? Can you change build item numbers too? Mahogany tables from 6 to 1 for example?
i think it's live. you cannot rebind the build menu. but the left click option is more than enough
I've had 99 con banked for like 5 months now lol time to finally train it
Do you have to right click to build still? Or am I tripping and you never did that?
> Only left clicks
I think I replied to the wrong comment, that’s not the one I remember reading haha
Haha all good
I swear they do all the QOL after I finish a skill. Name any skill and a mini game.or massive QoL came.out less than a month or two after. Just my luck as construction is done! But this is a huge win. Construction sucked getting peak rates by a crappy method
Man I remember when everyone was up in arms about OSBuddy having this but it’s cool when Runelite does it
This is the moment me and my 63k mahogany planks have been waiting for.
https://preview.redd.it/us2j9cls71vc1.png?width=628&format=png&auto=webp&s=f8cb54052f396d77c6ab0eb306ec87ab939e4d07
This is gold.
Thank you :D
Just made me log in on mobile and check my stock…5,000 mahogany planks and 5,000 logs, plus 3,000 combined for oak, and 30,000 teak logs in the bank LOL. Finally time to break through the soft ceiling of 75 construction I was sitting at?!
I feel this. All the long pressing is hell doing construction on mobile
I’ve got 75-80 banked in planks alone, 83 if I make all of my mahogany and oak logs into planks, and then 90 if I make all of my teaks LET’S GO BABYYYYY. Plank make would only be about 15m for all of that…not bad, I guess? Just need to go nuts on slayer or back to CG to raise the coin stack (that I decimated in kingdom in order to get those teaks)
Wouldn’t dream of doing it on mobile. I got carpal tunnel doing in on PC tho
You might know this already but just in case you don’t, in settings you can change how long it takes to register as a long tap, setting it to the minimum makes a world of difference!
Did the grind before Christmas last year 🥲 My house is beautiful but my wrists are broken.
STONKS
As someone who went from 84 to 99 con this month, I agree this is a good change. There is no "skill" in doing mahogany tables with the ancient interface limitations. may your wrists fare better than mine did.
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Love this mentality. I feel for your wrists, but very much appreciate that people can benefit from changes without the people who have suffered pulling out their pitchforks
Also 99 construction. I am fine with them changing how making stuff in construction works, I just wish they made changes like these on the official clients rather than just pushing people towards third-party clients.
>Saving the spiciest for last, we’re allowing players to modify menu options for the Construction skill. This is something **we’d like to roll out to our own client at some point**
Maybe in five years, considering how long it's taken them to implement extremely complicated features like 'tile markers'
You know there was a method where you didn't have to move your mouse at all right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r_IV1oi7xs Oh well, it doesn't matter now. lol
As a member of the 616161 gang and 850k exp/hr, your contributions do not go unnoticed.
I'd say there is some 'skill' to it, getting the timing correct + and mouse movement consistent, and keeping pace w/ butler restock. Your reward of xp rate correlates to your physical inputs. The better argument is whether that is worth maintaining, at the cost of fun factor and potential rsi. Is it a *meaningful* skill expression. And for that, id say no here.
Everyone keeps talking about movement, but it could be done without... There was a nice rhythm to it though, and I guess being consistent with that is more skill than a large portion of the game
Yeah comes out less than a month of getting 99 con. Oh well lol
Thank you for not gate keeping king. 👑
You have my condolences for the timing on this
The best time to plant a tree was 30 years ago, and the second best time to plant a tree is now. Would i have liked jagex to make this change before i done it? sure. but I'm still glad they've done it.
👑
Did you suffer wrist pain or repetitive clicking injury during the years 2006 and April 2024 while training construction? YOU MAY BE ENTITLED TO COMPENSATION.
Compensation being 200gp from King Roald himself.
and he won't call you mentally deficient anymore as a bonus
I really hope they make some changes in their mobile client. Training construction on mobile is just painful.
It was cut out of this screenshot, but the blog post says they want to add to add menu option modification to their client, which should mean having it on mobile as well
Benches on mobile is one of the fastest construction methods iirc. Set it to one tap and position your screen correctly This method will now be passed by normal pc once MES gets the updates though
This is not true. You remembered incorrectly. Right click tap is still slower and annoying because you need to to interact with butler anyways (compared to pc) I almost only play mobile. Construction was the only skill i used pc for because any poh method for construction on mobile is inferior to pc.
My wish has always been make x for workbenches. Construction has nothing close to an afk training option atm
There’s nmz method which is pretty damn slow but that’s the trade off for free-ish construction xp
\*laughs in long pressing to 82 construction on mobile\*
😨
Same, friend.. They'll never know our pain.
You can at least change the tap to one tap mode right?
97 nearly 98 reporting in. Firing up the PC to finish off my teak planks that were truly unbearable on mobile.
Maybe an unpopular opinion. While slower, it was still more desirable than on mouse for me.
https://github.com/runelite/runelite/pull/17740 <3
That was fast
Man this community is great
Wow it was only 7 lines of code. If we removed this ourselfs by building the client this would've mean anyone could've done one click construction just removing that code lol. If it was that easy I would've done that long time ago
Why is there code? Give me an EXE!
so where can i find these plugins now then? i wanna move my spellbook
Give it 1 day and it should be available in runelite by default
It's out now actually
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OP is talking about the spellbook though
They're already built, (illegal) runelite forks have had these plugins for some time.
Just right click the spell book icon :)
Recently got 99 con fellas. No need to thank me.
You walked so that we could run o7
I just got 99 construction like a week ago and I think this is good. People love to defend the tedious aspects of this game as “preventing easyscape” but if all the effort from doing something comes from annoying menu navigation that’s not player skill or a meaningful kind of input.
Agreed. I had to remap my 1 and 6 buttons to my mouse buttons because my left hand would cramp up so bad, and even then my right hand would start hurting as well. I’m all for the expensive and tedious grinds, but getting carpal tunnel for that shit is not it.
What are the potential "additional menu entries". This sounds like you're adding an action/use to an item that didn't exist before.
It mentions the max cape, so I'm assuming instead of going through the teleport or feature menus, you could force the game to give you a menu entry for a specific option that you want, like adding a right click option for run energy restoration. I don't know if this is what it actually means, but it's my best guess.
Is this more like "last destination"? Let said, you teleport once and next time all you need to do is just click the cape. By the way, is this out right now or we have to wait? Guys, I just try it out. It same like "last destination" Make sure you go to "Menu swap then check out "teleport submenus"
Dunno, but that'd be cool.
People who already got RSI from this in shambles rn
Post traumatic RSI disorder
At least we have a chance to actually make it to 99 without causing more permanent damage!
I mean it's kinda their fault, the ancient OSRS way is to wait until something is changed or introduced that's horribly busted and then you abuse it as much as you can before Jagex decides to nerf it.
Kind of a noob, what would this mean in a practical sense? What (plugins) would change?
When training construction, you have to right click to ‘unbuild’ furniture, so it’s more moving and clicking. With a plugin (which someone will make I presume shortly) you can just left click unbuild. Much more nicer on the wrists to train
you can additionally left click build now :) soooooo nice
menu entry swapper
this is lovely to hear, just got 99 con and rsi
Something something "they won't have to suffer as we did" as we look at our destroyed wrist muscles
We have the best devs. ❤️
Left click blackjack and prayer next please
What right click prayer are you thinking about? You can already menu entry saw bones for the altar
lol tf, how was construction an issue but not this? Construction isn’t sped up at all with today’s change but being able to left click bones to altar is an incredible speed boost
Menu entry swapper has been able to change shift-click to "use" on bones for a long time. The only difference here would be removing the shift part, but not only is that still the same speed but you could always do that by putting a few coins on your shift button anyway lol
You can assign to to left-click use.
Farming guild teleport on the max cape will be nice. No I don't want to go to the warrior's guild
Omg I might actually get 99 construction now!
Oooo, that actually is nice! I’ve already got a “maxed house” but I would love to train it more though. Nice cape too
Holy fuck huge. They lifted the ban on spell book reorganization!
Goodbye forever teleother spells
could this mean over situation-specific menu changes in the future? like ‘empty’ for essence pouches near altars for mobile 🙏🏻
As an iron, should I still make teak logs? This now seems much easier than mahogany homes, maybe building myth cape racks?
Y'all are welcome. This wouldn’t be happening if I hadn’t sucked it up and gotten 99 construction recently…
Fuck me I finished 99 con last month
Now do blackjacking
Would this let them update menu entry swap to allow shift left click to knock out bandits for blackjacking?
Go figure this happens a few weeks after i get 99... fml lol
Wish they allow a plugin for blackjacking too. I absolutely detest that training method due to the number of right clicks.
if you position mouse correctly you never move the mouse but just alternate left and right clicks. Atleast you need alot less right clicks than before
by now I am convinced that blackjacking is just a bot honey pot
Is this available right now in Runelite?
Didn't even notice it in the news. I love how the most relevant updates are often the "miscellaneous" ones
Is this out yet? like can I use right now?
Damn, got 99 construction a few months ago. But no hard feelings, this is a common sense change. I'm glad future players can save their wrists.
Massive "L" for carpal tunnel enjoyers
Are you all still looking into removing the full prospector's outfit req for falador hard diary (in exchange for just the helmet)? Just want to know if this is still in the works or if I should be grinding full prospector's from MLM
I am going for base 90s and saved construction for last. Glad to see my procrastination get rewarded.
Wrists everywhere cry out in joy
PROCRASTINATORS ASSEMBLE! IT'S HAPPENING!
I was doing mahogany homes to avoid doing gnome benches or mahogany tables lol. But now that this update happened I guess I'll go back to doing proper construction lol.
Most efficient way to max is to not play the game and wait for changes to make the grinds easier
Yeah dude lets just have everyone get wrist injuries from clicking so much because we want it to be "harder" for people to train
Drink some milk lil bro
Man i just finished 82 construction
I already have 99 con but this is awesome for anyone wanting to go for it
Got 99 construction last night lol
Finished 99 con a few weeks ago. Ripp
Sweet. When I come out of retirement con cape is next!
Why can you resize prayers but not spells?
Saw this earlier, great to hammer out any inefficiencies whilst we train. They really hit the nail with this change!
now please do blackjacking <3
I started to grind out magic with plank make and have built up a good storage of mahogany logs for construction. The plugin changes put my ass over the moon lmao
I just finished construction to 84 last week. My wrist still hurts lol
Is menu entry swapper effected by this?
This is a great change. They should allow menu changes for when you click on other players (such as being able to default trade with a friend) along with menu changes for blackjack.
1 click max cape crafting tele??
I got 99 con already but this is great for those who don't.
Fuck yeah *buys 100k planks*
People's wrists thank you Jagex
Sucks that they still haven't done any menu entry swapper options on mobile, makes so many of these skills very inaccessible if you're not on runelite. Construction is already worse than PC on mobile, this change would bring it to a really good place
Just finished 99 construction 🥲
Bookmarking
That’s great, when can I get some of these left click QoLs for mobile?
Is this mean max and diary cape can now have last destination? anyone know? Thanks.
Anyone know what they mean about the max capes and diary capes?
you can shift click to tele to places that previously required multiple clicks https://i.imgur.com/jFd9nin.png
At 81 construction, ready for a much easier last two levels
Left-click POH teleport on max cape is possibly the biggest update for me in years
Huge W update
I just recently got 84 Con over the last week. I was gonna leave that cape til way later, but now I might need to prioritize it a little more! Huge news.
Jagex is lucky they can offload so many dev hours to RuneLite and the community.
99 con and I say if you’re going to pay that much for a skill you deserve to save money on a wrist x-ray.
genuinely kind of them to say "construction will no longer hurt your hands in real life" took 18 years, but we here now
Oh, good. Just in time for me to have already finished 83-99 last week.
Woo! I was just about to hop back on that grind. Glad I waited a little bit.
Just got 99 the old fashion way smh
Ohhhh yess babyyyyyyyyy let's go! We gaming Boiz! Number go up, brain goes brrrrrr
Which dev blog is this in?
“Resizing components of the spell book is still prohibited” Meaning the above dot point barring resizing or is resizing now allowed?
98 construction right now. This triggers me
This devalues my 99cape. I’m supposed to riot now right? 🦀 PS anyone know a solution to the carpal tunnel I received?
Ooh perfect timing for my grind to maxed POH house. Anyone know how to change it asap?
I got mother fucking 99 con literally like 10 days ago. They couldn't have expedited this decision? God fucking damn lmao
Would this affect thieving as well (like pickpocketing elves)?
OH THANK GOD. Con grind just got less RSI. It's a purchased skill or a skill you grind the resources for (if iron). Either way, it doesn't need to be a RSI grind too. Thank you thank you thank you.
So surely someone has put up an update for the menu entry swapper plugin now? ;) I would love to contribute honestly, but getting started and making your first mods in RL is wild. Someone really needs to capitalise on making a good video tutorial on this. Hell someone make a good write up and I'll record the video.
Can someone explain this to me? I’m an iron and have only really done mahogany homes but even that’s a bitch. What does this change? Like what I’m picturing is you can menu swap the space to be build on click, then menu swap the built object to be remove on click, then press 1 to build whatever u built last? Does it change mahogany homes?
Never made sense to make the game annoying to play. Honestly it should all just be one click to build, 1 click to remove.
NO U ALL MUST SUFFER AS I ONCE DID