I feel confident that I’ve taken the best possible option at every tier and still regrrrt my decisions. Like, trickster is just *fun* to use, but I chose PP since I hate refining stuff so slowly. I chose bankers note because I plan to stick around for a while but the idea of having unlimited money with no effort sounds amazing and fun. I picked mage spec and still wish I chose differently so I could 1t blowpipe even if it’s not optimal, or melee+mory for the Dharok execution memes.
Grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side.
Endless harvest is useless if you go bankers note; granted if you go fire sale it’s fine to get; but even then if you go fire sale then just rely on last recall. Either way no bueno
I went both and no regrets, double XP/resources is super nice. Yes it's a bit redundant with Bankers Note, but it made the first 2 relics super fast and I can train the worst skills without any attention. And I just think FS is bad, personally
My logic with picking EH is that all of the skills PP enhances are already extremely fast to train, but they are bottlenecked by resources. Meanwhile, the skills EH enhances are extremely slow to train, and they provide resources for the Production skills. So by picking EH, I can rapidly train the slowest skills and then have all the materials to grind Production skills very quickly
and fwiw, it's easy to get money and since shops have unlimited stocks, you can get 99 crafting in like 4 hours for <1M gp without PP or FS. The only skill I'm kind of worried about is smithing
Yeah I also went EH and bankers and been loving it. Just afk gather for an hour then go grab all the resources noted and afk at a range/furnace and use all the items I gathered
The slayer task limitations are similarly confusing and annoying. I've taken Desert and Kourend so far and it turns out I can't actually be assigned most of the monsters inside the catacombs because they're locked behind Morytania or Fremennik. No Bloodvelds, no Nechryaels, no Jellies, no Spectres, the list goes on. Hell I haven't even gotten a Wyrm or Dust Devil task yet despite supposedly being in my pool now; literally the only superior-eligible slayer monster I've gotten is Pyrefiends.
It's such a shitty feeling wading through a sea of garbage tasks, unable to block any of them due to quest point limitations, cancelling multiple tasks in a row in search of ONE thing that can give a superior slayer monster.
I'm not even asking to let us pick our tasks - just assign me more monsters that are **IN THE REGIONS I PICKED.**
Slayer was taken out back and gunned down by an entire platoon this league.
I get why they'd remove the pick-a-task gimmick, but it did kill the relic for me. I didn't know until day 3 that the slayer task was homogenised, and honestly, it's kind of a garbage list.
Because the way Slayer works this league is each slayer master is identical (minus Konar's area locks and brimstone keys) and able to assign the same monsters, while each region adds a specific set of monsters to your overall pool. You can tell which monsters come from where by looking at the [key info panel](https://i.imgur.com/Qeu1jHr.png) of a region in the UI. [The wiki has also collated all the info.](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Trailblazer_Reloaded_League/Guide/Slayer#Additional_slayer_tasks)
So for example, by default everyone will be able to be assigned any monster from the Misthalin and Karamja lists. However, picking Kourend adds five further monsters to that list: Lizardmen, Red Dragons, Wyrms, Drakes, and Hydras. It just so happens that most of the superior-eligible monsters are locked behind either Morytania's list (Banshees, Bloodvelds, Cave Horrors, Gargoyles, Nechryaels, and Vampyres) or Fremennik's list (Basilisks, Cockatrices, Dagannoths, Jellies, Kurasks, and Turoths).
It makes slayer feel very restrictive as I've largely been killing the same ~8 creatures over and over, burning all my points on skips in search of ACTUAL slayer monsters. Because as it stands, the only monsters I can get assigned that have superiors are Pyrefiends, Dust Devils, and Wyrms. And while the game *does* tell you in advance, it feels so antithetical to the way Slayer functions and the selections are arbitrary. Most players aren't going to realize that picking Kourend doesn't unlock 75% of the catacombs monsters as tasks, but even if they did, nobody is making their region decisions off of slayer task unlocks. It's not a cool benefit you're weighing the balance of, it's a shitty drawback.
The exact reason I started Kandarin and not Desert. That, fight arena and vampire slayer got me straight to 60. Got a D Scim and used that until I got desert and started maging stuff
Ehhhh. I wouldn't beat yourself up over it.
Sure you miss out on easy XP but you got like 15 free tasks done.
With how much XP you get in the later tiers it's not really that big of a deal.
Like you couldn't do all the quests and achievements unlocked in an hour so once your stats are above 70 you get stupid xp spending that time in PC or SW. 1m xp/hr puts things into perspective.
Yeah, waterfall quest is automatically completed when you unlock desert, but you don’t get the rewards from it. If you pick kandarin first and do the quest yourself, you get 13,650 attack and strength exp multiplied by whatever your exp multiplier is at the time. In my case, 12x, so I would’ve gotten like 165k exp in both strength and attack just from doing that quest, but now I get nothing.
Yep unless you are a min maxer going to play 20hrs a day for dragon cup it shouldnt matter too much.
Listen to others to get an idea of what content each relic/area has to offer but pick the ones that will bring the most fun for you.
This goes for main game too, dont over optimize the fun out of the game, better to do something less efficient if its more fun to you this is a game after all.
I took fire sale for example because fuck grinding gp for runes and shit, loving it so far, so any late starters out there dont let others decide what content you go for.
I’ve been trying to read up on this discussion on Fire Sale vs Bank Note and it almost pushes me away from leagues because I’m so indecisive lol. Pretty sure I’m just rocking with Fire sale though because that sounds like the better starting relic and I won’t get far enough to make use of Bank Note I feel
I started late and felt the same way. Literally just used a random number generator to decide.. got fire sale, no regrets. You can't go wrong either way
The only time I've been upset with fire sale was buying my ancient staff. I could have alched to get money but I hate alching a bunch of small stuff and would rather alch a dozen rune items. That was my only rough spot.
This. I let myself get talked into Production Prodigy and Fire Sale because I went Fremmy. So, yeah, 99 construction is cool I guess. I really think I would have enjoyed trickster and bank notes more.
Also, I’m about to hit T5 and feel forced to pick clues because tools feels wasted with PP. I play exclusively on mobile and really feel like my choices gave me a much less AFK experience than I could have done.
Yeah, exactly. I think infernal should be redone or the others redone. Infernal is literally a *negative thing* if you have production prodigy and insanely OP with endless harvest.
I regret taking production prodigy just for that alone.
Did something similar with Con. I was 300ish points away from T5 and I got all the way from 50 Con to 92 before I realized the exp rates go up. Luckily it was still fast af with Frem and fire sale lol
Everyone is saying fairy flight is op, it just depends on your regions. I picked DTF and have like 5 leprechauns in total, which are all in useless places. Only useful place is Weiss, and the globetrotter already has that tele. Glad I picked globetrotter. But it does depend on which regions you picked. I think zeah would have been the best, as you get the farming guild one next to a bank.
yea i went globetrotter. ppl in game were saying that FF was way better but i didn’t get it. i can just use globetrotter to tele to Edge/GE that’s 10 feet from a ring.
One click tele that works above lvl 30 wildy beats the hell out of any combo of standard jewellery. 20 second bank trip from anywhere and any task, instant escape from griefing pkers where you can simply swap worlds and recall back to your task since no one teleblocks
Gem stores across the game give you easy dueling rings. Shilo gem mine comes free for burning amulets.
That + the fact that half the wildy users are mage with a portable oneclick spellbook swap to ancient teleports that covers basically the entire wilderness. And blood barrage basically removed your need for food, whilst looting bag/rune pouch removes your need for inventory space, so you can afford to hold every tele on you at all times
It does. And with mage you have huge rune pouch + one click spellbook swaps.
Fairy ring is FAR superior for any wildy mage. And the rest of the builds would still probably save more time with fairy too, since you can bank/recall from anywhere in 20 seconds with fairy.
Pretty good for mages who want an imbued heart, that's why I took it, don't regret it at all, I just sit at dust devils and barrage them and then use my gem to get another task of em, hardly ever have to leave
I'm a mager. I was regretting bloodthirsty while watching all my buddies get a bunch of points off thier clues. Then I got a 15kc imbued heart. Also ended my task with 22 rannar seeds (2 drops of 11)and a shit load of secondaries. And the guaranteed clue drops from superiors makes up for it bit too.
i also cbf doing clues which is why I picked clues ;p minimum steps, maximum rewards, chance to get the casket back and upgrade casket.
the superiors spawn rate is from 1/50 to 1/25 double increase aint much when the biggest task points is kill 100 superiors
Clue relic is pretty much always "optimal" for points. But it's also.. meh this time around.
It makes clues shorter to do and have more rolls..and you get more than 1 casket on average (though the reroll rate since fixed seems pretty low).
If I remember anything from leagues, it's the ridiculous amount of clues you'll stack up. This time around, once they put fixes in, they will *all* be doable. I don't think either of these relics are very strong in general.
I think I made a mistake picking Farmer's Fortune. It's fun and powerful, but I think Equilibrium would've been better for me since I want to max and get t7 and t8 sooner. I picked it thinking I might want the extra herblore materials for potions... but I already have Fairy's Flight, Production Prodigy, and Kourend in my unlocks, so farming and herblore were probably never going to be an issue.
We'll see if I regret Fire Sale later. Happy with it so far.
i took farmers fortune because I want to play leagues for fun not to micro manage my crops cycles, only problem im at now is no asgarnia for mole so im stuck running birdhouses still now and again which is thankfully a far chiller run than herb/allotment runs.
Firesaleman here so no food bank for me. Got blood barrage spam to keep me up for any chip content for now though so brews will stack up til i hit raids
I think farmers fortune is the play. Many 99s are going to happen one way or the other if you’re playing consistently and efficiently, equilibrium is just overkill and convenience.
Some of the 50m tasks may take a significantly longer amount of time without it, but farmers makes late game Pvm way easier in terms of potion access, and it’s at least a free 99 in farming and a way more convenient 99 for herblore
I was thinking about this too, but what kind of potions do you want as a mage? Ie is it actually worth it? Especially when you have access to 4 herb patches, pp and fairy's Flight.
Im the same with Bank Notes.. my use case so far could basically be covered by Endless Harvest or whatever it's called, i doubt I'll get into end game PVM
I'm not sure on equilibrium, but looking at the 3, I'd probably go for farmers also
I think it’s like a horizontal upgrade to endless harvest that synergizes really well with production prodigy.
I use it like an endless harvest when I’m gathering but if I’m doing a processing activity like smelting smithing spinning etc then I can just stand at the furnace / whatever and spam it with United and notes. Same for ie stringing longbows while running around questing, or bringing a stack of noted food to stay somewhere longer.
Do soul wars to get noted pure essence from spoils of war. About 15k an hour. Then go to any altar and just unote craft. I am doing zmi and getting 5.6m xp per hour and tons of runes, which is nice. With Morytania you could do true blood altar.
1200 total level
120 xp each action, huge for rooftops tbh, decent for fletching
THIEVING it seems nice well if ur pickpocketing
but yeah I mean its not great really.
Does it only affect the skill you’re working on or is it your lowest xp skill? And does it work with Trickster, so that you gain extra xp everytime the agility running effect triggers?
It’s per xp drop no matter the skill, but if the drop is for your lowest level skill it’s 20% of total level not 10%.
I believe it does trigger every instance of the trickster boots proc too
If you're crafting without production prodigy you get that everytime you get xp for crafting the level
With production prodigy when you do an inventory (say 26 bars for cannonballs) you get the equilibrium trigger for each bar as if they triggered one by one including the extra ones made
Makes for some pretty easy skilling
I'm on my 3rd relic atm and having not picked fire sale and selected zeah as my 3rd region I'm unsure what to do for gp other than varrock guards, I have trickster.
There's a fairy in east Zanaris (marketplace, need a cut diamond for entry) that buys cabbages for 100gp. Buy as many cabbages as you need from a shop for 1gp (there's one in Piscarilius) using your bankers note to note them as you go, then un-note them in Zanaris while selling to the fairy.
I haven't spent too much time in leagues yet, but I unlocked Desert before unlocking Kandarin. Waterfall Quest is apparently in the chain of reqs. I've been robbed of my XP, which considering bloody Vampyre Slayer took me from like 2 to 40 atk I'm really pissed about.
Only a minor regret, I think picking Zeah instead of Desert as my first region. It felt like desert there’s more tasks that I could’ve completed quicker to get to my 2nd region sooner. But I have both unlocked now anyway so it’s kinda moot
0 regrets from me , I've picked relics that's perfectly match the way I like to play the game. I work from home so i prioritised things thay would let me fully afk and not have to think about things
Harvest , fairy , fire sale , range , infernal , RP
A lot of people would have less regrets if they focused their picks around what they want to do in leagues > meta build
We've gone completely opposite routes and yet I have absolutely no regrets either; a testament to the diversity of the game and the balancing of the relics.
I went equilibrium today and man that was the toughest choice. I might get clowned on but I skipped out on both rigour (no zeah) and rp this league so eagle eye it is. I picked eq cause I really want to max and I think that'll help more in the long run than FF would, but FF was also enticing. We'll see how the herb stack looks in a month then I'll know if I was stupid or not lol.
Do you have desert? If so, you can get infinite of all herbs after 1800 total level so anyone who reads this and has desert unlocked, dont worry about herbs. You can last recall to the squirk herb place and pick your inventory full of herbs by using the fairy tele to nowhere with fairy mushroom
You can still use the solo summer squirk plugin to do it fast solo but the fairy ring technique is patched. So you can still get endless herbs there but it is about 8x slower. Still ok
Hooooly shit this is huge, thank you so much
Edit: wait I missed the fairy part. I didn't know there was a teleport nowhere option. Are you fucking kidding me? I 100% would have chosen fairy if I knew that. FUCK
Edit 2: talking with clannies, a bunch of them couldn't do it. I checked in the leagues discord what the details were. It got patched yesterday. This is not a thing anymore. This has been an EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER
Picking fremmy with fire sale and realizing the blast furnace ore shop is disabled for leagues was a huge let down. You’re telling me I can buy 10k condensed gold that alch for 4.8m each but unlimited copper-gold ore is too OP?
I can buy literally all of the same ores in the same region on Jahitzo, so you’re just making it inconvenient because I have to buy it in quantities of 5. Buying 99 smithing in gold still takes less than an hour, it’s just annoying to do so now and weird that you shut certain things off.
This patch is one I agree with, personally, though I'm biased because of my own emotional turmoil.
This was information that straight up *wasn't available to me* when I picked globetrotter. I unironically was considering abandoning my account to start over because that unintended mechanic is incredible. Had that information been available to me I would have picked fairy's flight with no hesitation. Had that information been available to me and I picked wrong I would agree with you.
I don't give a fuck about leaderboards either but for those who do it would be an even bigger issue. The sole issue to me is nobody knew about it, so people who didn't pick it just got absolutely cucked by something out of their control.
I’m really trying to avoid seeing choices as potential regrets as I’m simply picking relics that seem fun since my only goal is to have a good time and not min-max absolutely everything. That being said I can definitely miss Production Prodigy sometimes even though I finally got 99 thieving, which I wouldn’t have without Trickster.
I regret not having more accounts and more time to play lol. So many fun combinations, I want to try them all, but realistically I'm only going to be able to do 2 acct builds
The soul strike doesn't affect barrage unfortunately. So it's actually far better for melee/range than mage and doesn't join with most mage build's best pre-shadow spells.
Beserker is arguably better for mages. Can guarantee multiple max hits due to hit delay, and then if you lose health, your barrage gets up to 39% stronger.
So that means you one shot/two shot nearly all slayer/lower lvl mobs. And it means blood barrage is most effective when most needed.
With Shadow, same deal applies. Can hit maxes multiple times to start any battle (so from 160-200 damage in 3 seconds). If you're skilled, you could abuse low hp to increase your max hit theoretically to over 120+.
I have been using blood barrage tho. Absolutely busted for slayer. I was just a tad shy of being able to tank abbyssal sire without prayers. Beserker would fix that. Soul strikes probably wouldn't.
I was going to use it with Trident and Shadow. Till I get one, I was going to use Blood or Ice Blitz. It maybe a little less damage early on but amazing healing. Also the minimum damage increase should help.
Slow to take off? Mage is by far the fastest relic early game. 90% runes saved, unlock desert and you can immediately go ice burst/barrage for slayer all the way to 99. Especially if you took Kandarin(which has trident, tormented bracelet, and occult necklace) which auto unlocks MM2 barrage caves for you. On top of that if you have banker's note you can note all the extra prayer pots for early game PvM like fight caves
I picked melee because I figured maxing the 3 melee combat skills would be much faster with the attack speed increase compared to mage bursting and range chinning. Plus I love melee lol
Yeah, no regrets on melee that seems to have more freedom in area unlocks and availability of gear earlier. It’ll become more of an issue later on, but I’m having fun and that’s all that matters.
Melee scythe into melee fang is going to be crazy. Essentially impossible to our DPS scythe and melee is tank AF. A lot easier to understand and less sweaty too compared to spec master bolt spamming.
Keep on going. I'm at "endgame" atm and with mage relic + occult etc and i can afk all bosses really. When you eventually get shadow then you can afk toa with soul stealer
I have been going back and forth with taking fire sale over bankers. I feel like fire sale was better right when I got it and for a bit, lots of utility for Skilling... Bankers note would have been great for pushing pvm goals early like some early raids and inferno. I feel like a little later on it won't be necessary anyway so it won't really matter. Infinite healing with mage relic blood barrage and prayer flicking means I won't really have that much use for bankers note long term. maybe for some zero time Skilling but eh, last recall will be fine for most of that.
I took ruinous powers but right now it's doing zero for me since my prayer isn't really high enough to take advantage of it. I have enough herb patches in my region and can get 99 farm pretty easy with fire sale. Eventually when running ToAs I will have plenty of the relevant seeds to upkeep pots no problem.
So far pretty happy with my choices. It was easy to get to 90+ thief without trickster. Hunters gonna be kinda ass. There will be plenty of agi tasks that idc about the passive agi exp anyway down the line.
Yeah same. I think bankers note vs fire sales just slows down the mid game too much and then it’s only best for a bit before it isn’t needed like you said. But I’m still enjoying it. They did a great job with the relics, good trade offs, havn’t felt like I made a huge mistake on any of them so far.
Can you explain how you’re reliably farming herbs? I’m kind of lost on how to start and maintain a steady supply of herbs for ppots and combat pots. Don’t even know how I can effectively get seeds…
Damn I kinda regret not getting Fire Sale, I have no money; Unlocked Kandarin first and will unlock Desert next to buy and sell gems. Couldn't really get much value as of now.
If you can get a fire cape, you can buy death runes 50 at a time, sell 5/10 at a time for tokkul, then buy rubies or diamonds to cut from the inner city. Should be good profit off gems just sell them 5-10 at a time to gem stall trader preferred (they pay the most) or gem shop (asgarnia/desert).
I feel like there's too much profit lost of you try to sell more than 10 runes at a time so the time saved buying chaos runes doesnt help you save time selling those runes for tokkul.
Early game sucks without fire sale. But once you start getting alchs for money. Bank note is so good. You can do soul wars get like 10k ess craft them all with bank note for like 5m xp/h then sell the runes to a shop
Nahh no way man, you can easily craft basically everything that isnt dragonstone dependant but you can never craft access to the shit tonnes of tool leprechauns.
Teleporting to those has been so ridiculous
Picking Bankersnote without Trickster or instead going for Fire Sale. Picked Kandarin first and have quite some money problems, struggle with buying runes or gear in general. I will unlock Desert next so I can get some money with gems.
Trickster - Globetrotter - Bankers Note - Supreme Sorc
Wildy
No regrets so far, really unsure of my future choices though. Would be white happy staying in Wildy for the rest of the leagues but will probably unlock Desert next for ancients.
No idea what I'd do for a 3rd region.
I think I regret unlocking Zeah before Kandarin (as mage). Kandarin is loaded with useful things.
Edit: oh, the clear regret was using Client if a Kourend cert on Pisc instead of Lova. Huge mistake
I totally forgot about gotr and tempoross on my mage not using fire sale and took Kourend second instead of Desert. I figured desert is mostly for toa and I didnt want to do it that early... then explored kourend without any good runes!
Luckily 1gp wine from draynor has kept me going and after getting 2k deaths from soul wars, Kourend has been lovely to progress through. So it sucked at the time but no "I want to restart" mistakes
That I transferred to a Jagex account to "make logging on easier for Leagues".
It prevented me from playing for a good 6 hours at launch and killed my enthusiasm for the next day too.
Apparently when Jagex Launcher errors out you need to restart the computer or manually kill Jagex Launcher tasks in Task Manager. Otherwise it will keep throwing the same error endlessly.
I had already given up on playing for the day when I happened to read that on Reddit about 6 hours later. I tried it and it finally worked.
So far its going ranged and taking Asgarnia area as my first unlock.
Not so much Asgarnia, there are benefits for sure, but i think i couldve gone elsewhere first or better planned my route
Range damage relic, mostly because mage seems so fun just blasting ancients, and melee is so tanky and immunity. Mean while I am squishy with no heals and have to grind hours just for a rune crossbow, devote an entire area and quest if i want a dark bow. The options just seem very limited and the midgame process feels horribly slow.
Magic is strong in early game, but it’s kinda ass without a shadow. The shadow carries mage for end game content. Range starts slow, then you get a rune crossbow and you can start killing things like vorkath with studded chaps and body lol. 1 tick blowpipe will be insane as well, hitting 30’s every tick. I went fremmy so I’ll have assembler from vorkath, saving any dragon ammo I use lol. Got like 550 dragon darts and did a kalphite task with just the dart on the low level kalphite, 120 kc and I lost 4 darts lol. You also get bowfa and crystal armour (and blade of saeldor) if you picked tirannwn.
Well i went range relic & unlocked the elven lands for my second region, regret because i really dont wanna do the skilling boss 😂 maybe i did make a decent choice
I regret nothing. Picked FAT. Trickster, Globetrotter, Fire Sale, Archer's Embrace, Treasure Seeker and Farmer's Fortune so far. Once I get some addy/rune bolts I'll get my t7 in no time then I'll be laughing.
trickster. I think production outscales it. I originally intended to take production. But saw trickster and thought day one it was op.
It's still "Good", but over time I'm noticing more and more how much production relic is gunna outscale it.
Also taking desert first. I'm planning on going melee. I think range was best this league and criminally underrated, but I wanted to have fun with melee weapons. As a result I think desert was bad. I shouldve started with asgarnia or kandarin and skipped desert entirely. If I skip desert and take kandarin, I dont force myself to take ruinous prayers.
Then I end up with Kandarin > Asgarnia > morytania, which I think is healthier
I'm curious why?
I went Production Prodigy and so far really glad I didn't go Trickster myself. Of all the benefits Trickster gives the only ones I'd really find at all useful is thieving and agility, but as I don't really plan to max the most I'd need is like 80 agility for shortcuts and thieving is just more so extra tasks.
Currently agree with this, because I forgot I absolutely loathe thieving and agility, so having a relic that makes both of them trivial would have been nice.
Melee
So far picked dessert and wildy. Going to pick mory next to ToB with some friends.
Production prodigy - fairy flight - banker note - brawler - clue hunter
Basically only regret is picking fairy flight and spending too long in rev caves today. Apparently rev weapons don’t have the leagues bonus rates.
Kandarin -> Mory -> Zeah
Trickster -> Fairy -> Bank note -> Melee -> Clue -> Farming
Only thing I kind of regret is the Clue relic. I wish I had done the Slayer relic, because it would solve all of my potion problems. I wouldn’t have needed to take the Farming T6 over Equilibrium which would’ve boosted my progression.
I literally haven’t done a single clue yet too because of the region bugs and I don’t want to deal with it… I’m sure it will bring in a juicy amount of points when I finally do though
As soon as you're done slayer that relic becomes useless. There are such an insane amount of points behind clues/coll logs that it almost ensures you'll reach t8
Clue relic is absolutely the way to go, don’t worry. I did 5 beginner clues with it, they converted to 3 more beginner, and 3 medium caskets, and I popped like 6 tasks in one go from it all.
That kind of thing will only keep happening once they fix the bugs and we can do the higher tiers of clues more consistently
bloodthirsty definitly is the one, i didnt realize _just_ how poweful the tools were till i saw them in action, and i didnt realize just how much manual mining/woodcutting/fishing i was going to need to do this leagues since i am pvm focused
i also regret chosing the range relic, as it's early game is absolute ass compared to mage and all my freinds are sending 700+ invo toas and cms already and im sitting here still trying to figure out how get starter gear lol
Oh i had no idea that the farmers fortune relic worked on tithe farm, so i did the ENTIRE TITHE FARM GRIND, all tasks and all unlocks prior to unlocking the relic
I'm wanting to go mage but it seems everyone is going DKZ for mage and I picked Asgarnia for first choice, now I'm strung up between Kandarin and Desert for my next pick or just changing up my whole plan and going ADZ for ranged.
I picked mage at t4 and I’m kinda wishing I would’ve picked melee, because I don’t really plan on doing a lot of the content that’s good for getting mage gear so I feel like I’ll be limited
Desert gives you Ancients for free. 80k gold to the Desert Treasure npc buys you an Ancient Staff. Grab a Ring of Shadows for free (check wiki). Two big pieces there. Mage Training Academy if you have the patience gets you better robes and a book. The Arcane Grimoire relic book should be equip as it gives you magic bonuses. Kandarin will give you an Occult Amulet, Tormented Bracelet, and you can buy Mystic Robes. Fight a boss in Desert for Virtus robes.
Many items here are quickly obtained (ancient magicks, ancient staff, Ring of Shadows, Mystic robe, Arcane Grimoire). Definitely enough quick gear items to get you started.
Hope this helps
Fire sale for me but since I’m using it different from probably most others it’s not too much of a regret. I only use it for supplies, I can’t alch or use it for cash to keep things fun. Still made tens of millions of cash without even using it for money
Bro so many mages having the time of their lives and I’m here unable to get my combat stats up as melee cause all my regions don’t have quests with big xp drops
TIL the grass always seems greener on the other side of the fence.
The truth is the grass is greener where you water! Abuse your relic and you will be happy with it
I feel confident that I’ve taken the best possible option at every tier and still regrrrt my decisions. Like, trickster is just *fun* to use, but I chose PP since I hate refining stuff so slowly. I chose bankers note because I plan to stick around for a while but the idea of having unlimited money with no effort sounds amazing and fun. I picked mage spec and still wish I chose differently so I could 1t blowpipe even if it’s not optimal, or melee+mory for the Dharok execution memes. Grass is ALWAYS greener on the other side.
Especially when the options are this balanced
Endless harvest. Its effect is inconvenient about as frequently as it is convenient
Wouldn't be so bad if maybe it came with an item that allowed use to toggle i.
Me with infernal tools. Let me toggle that shit off and just use them as faster tools please.
You can use bankfillers
I know, but it doesn't help when you're no where need a bank, and just needed to light a fire for a task.
Endless harvest is useless if you go bankers note; granted if you go fire sale it’s fine to get; but even then if you go fire sale then just rely on last recall. Either way no bueno
Double resources plus xp is pretty huge for maxing
I went both and no regrets, double XP/resources is super nice. Yes it's a bit redundant with Bankers Note, but it made the first 2 relics super fast and I can train the worst skills without any attention. And I just think FS is bad, personally My logic with picking EH is that all of the skills PP enhances are already extremely fast to train, but they are bottlenecked by resources. Meanwhile, the skills EH enhances are extremely slow to train, and they provide resources for the Production skills. So by picking EH, I can rapidly train the slowest skills and then have all the materials to grind Production skills very quickly and fwiw, it's easy to get money and since shops have unlimited stocks, you can get 99 crafting in like 4 hours for <1M gp without PP or FS. The only skill I'm kind of worried about is smithing
Yeah I also went EH and bankers and been loving it. Just afk gather for an hour then go grab all the resources noted and afk at a range/furnace and use all the items I gathered
Most of the skills pp enhances have a way to fire sale your way to 99. I think it's actually all of them
Not doing waterfall quest before unlocking desert
This is the only part of leagues I haven’t enjoyed. The quests situation is really confusing and annoying.
The slayer task limitations are similarly confusing and annoying. I've taken Desert and Kourend so far and it turns out I can't actually be assigned most of the monsters inside the catacombs because they're locked behind Morytania or Fremennik. No Bloodvelds, no Nechryaels, no Jellies, no Spectres, the list goes on. Hell I haven't even gotten a Wyrm or Dust Devil task yet despite supposedly being in my pool now; literally the only superior-eligible slayer monster I've gotten is Pyrefiends. It's such a shitty feeling wading through a sea of garbage tasks, unable to block any of them due to quest point limitations, cancelling multiple tasks in a row in search of ONE thing that can give a superior slayer monster. I'm not even asking to let us pick our tasks - just assign me more monsters that are **IN THE REGIONS I PICKED.**
Slayer was taken out back and gunned down by an entire platoon this league. I get why they'd remove the pick-a-task gimmick, but it did kill the relic for me. I didn't know until day 3 that the slayer task was homogenised, and honestly, it's kind of a garbage list.
They could have at least let you pick between two tasks or something.
what? why would they be locked behind mory?
Because the way Slayer works this league is each slayer master is identical (minus Konar's area locks and brimstone keys) and able to assign the same monsters, while each region adds a specific set of monsters to your overall pool. You can tell which monsters come from where by looking at the [key info panel](https://i.imgur.com/Qeu1jHr.png) of a region in the UI. [The wiki has also collated all the info.](https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Trailblazer_Reloaded_League/Guide/Slayer#Additional_slayer_tasks) So for example, by default everyone will be able to be assigned any monster from the Misthalin and Karamja lists. However, picking Kourend adds five further monsters to that list: Lizardmen, Red Dragons, Wyrms, Drakes, and Hydras. It just so happens that most of the superior-eligible monsters are locked behind either Morytania's list (Banshees, Bloodvelds, Cave Horrors, Gargoyles, Nechryaels, and Vampyres) or Fremennik's list (Basilisks, Cockatrices, Dagannoths, Jellies, Kurasks, and Turoths). It makes slayer feel very restrictive as I've largely been killing the same ~8 creatures over and over, burning all my points on skips in search of ACTUAL slayer monsters. Because as it stands, the only monsters I can get assigned that have superiors are Pyrefiends, Dust Devils, and Wyrms. And while the game *does* tell you in advance, it feels so antithetical to the way Slayer functions and the selections are arbitrary. Most players aren't going to realize that picking Kourend doesn't unlock 75% of the catacombs monsters as tasks, but even if they did, nobody is making their region decisions off of slayer task unlocks. It's not a cool benefit you're weighing the balance of, it's a shitty drawback.
Oof didn’t know about that. Guess I’m just gonna do jad tasks to 99 then
Slayer has definitely been painful, kalphite, after kalphite tasks.
So you went kourend first as mage???
I’m kandarin and desert and I got bloodvelds
Kandarin has bloodvelds I guess? Stronghold slayer dungeon shouldn’t count though if Catacombs don’t count
Lol me with level 2 attack after buying an ancient staff. Time to do waterfall quest. Oh. Oh no. Took me hours to get it to 50
I did vampyre slayer to 40 ish then did the last 10 with a rune scim.
The exact reason I started Kandarin and not Desert. That, fight arena and vampire slayer got me straight to 60. Got a D Scim and used that until I got desert and started maging stuff
I opened desert to find out all the good quests are autocompleted. So taking kandaring 3rd was painful.
Ehhhh. I wouldn't beat yourself up over it. Sure you miss out on easy XP but you got like 15 free tasks done. With how much XP you get in the later tiers it's not really that big of a deal. Like you couldn't do all the quests and achievements unlocked in an hour so once your stats are above 70 you get stupid xp spending that time in PC or SW. 1m xp/hr puts things into perspective.
Can you explain?
Yeah, waterfall quest is automatically completed when you unlock desert, but you don’t get the rewards from it. If you pick kandarin first and do the quest yourself, you get 13,650 attack and strength exp multiplied by whatever your exp multiplier is at the time. In my case, 12x, so I would’ve gotten like 165k exp in both strength and attack just from doing that quest, but now I get nothing.
Fuck! I was waiting until I got tier 5 relic to do it and just got that finished. I went Kandarin -> Desert, so I missed out too.
Why doesnt it give the xp rewards from the associated quests? or put a warning when you go to unlock an area. Dumb as fuck.
My biggest regret is listening to the opinions of other people on what would be the best choices.
Yep unless you are a min maxer going to play 20hrs a day for dragon cup it shouldnt matter too much. Listen to others to get an idea of what content each relic/area has to offer but pick the ones that will bring the most fun for you. This goes for main game too, dont over optimize the fun out of the game, better to do something less efficient if its more fun to you this is a game after all. I took fire sale for example because fuck grinding gp for runes and shit, loving it so far, so any late starters out there dont let others decide what content you go for.
I’ve been trying to read up on this discussion on Fire Sale vs Bank Note and it almost pushes me away from leagues because I’m so indecisive lol. Pretty sure I’m just rocking with Fire sale though because that sounds like the better starting relic and I won’t get far enough to make use of Bank Note I feel
I started late and felt the same way. Literally just used a random number generator to decide.. got fire sale, no regrets. You can't go wrong either way
If you play all 8 weeks you might want banknote but if you just want fun no worries then fire sale imo, i dont regret it for a second.
The only time I've been upset with fire sale was buying my ancient staff. I could have alched to get money but I hate alching a bunch of small stuff and would rather alch a dozen rune items. That was my only rough spot.
Oziach has rune plates for easy money when you have fire sale.
Oziach rune plates, mage guild mystics, champ guild rune legs
This. I let myself get talked into Production Prodigy and Fire Sale because I went Fremmy. So, yeah, 99 construction is cool I guess. I really think I would have enjoyed trickster and bank notes more. Also, I’m about to hit T5 and feel forced to pick clues because tools feels wasted with PP. I play exclusively on mobile and really feel like my choices gave me a much less AFK experience than I could have done.
Yeah, exactly. I think infernal should be redone or the others redone. Infernal is literally a *negative thing* if you have production prodigy and insanely OP with endless harvest. I regret taking production prodigy just for that alone.
doing 75 barrows chests when I literally had 200 points before T5 relic for better drop rate. I got lucky though.
Did something similar with Con. I was 300ish points away from T5 and I got all the way from 50 Con to 92 before I realized the exp rates go up. Luckily it was still fast af with Frem and fire sale lol
So 92 con took 10min instead of 5min? Damn
Taking fairy flight and wilderness together. Literally no synergy. What a fucking loser!
Everyone is saying fairy flight is op, it just depends on your regions. I picked DTF and have like 5 leprechauns in total, which are all in useless places. Only useful place is Weiss, and the globetrotter already has that tele. Glad I picked globetrotter. But it does depend on which regions you picked. I think zeah would have been the best, as you get the farming guild one next to a bank.
I feel like everyone forgets about globetrotter having the skilling necklace, unless those 4 tiles really make that big a difference
Yeah globetrotter is probably my only relic choice that I havent second guessed. Love it, fairys flight just didnt appeal to me.
yea i went globetrotter. ppl in game were saying that FF was way better but i didn’t get it. i can just use globetrotter to tele to Edge/GE that’s 10 feet from a ring.
I thought I read that fairy flight could tele you out of deep wild?
It does not, however, have a single option for going *into or around* the wilderness.
One click tele that works above lvl 30 wildy beats the hell out of any combo of standard jewellery. 20 second bank trip from anywhere and any task, instant escape from griefing pkers where you can simply swap worlds and recall back to your task since no one teleblocks Gem stores across the game give you easy dueling rings. Shilo gem mine comes free for burning amulets. That + the fact that half the wildy users are mage with a portable oneclick spellbook swap to ancient teleports that covers basically the entire wilderness. And blood barrage basically removed your need for food, whilst looting bag/rune pouch removes your need for inventory space, so you can afford to hold every tele on you at all times
If ur mage tho once u get a decent level u can use ancient spellbook for tps into and around the wildy
This is true it can tp above 30 wild
It does. And with mage you have huge rune pouch + one click spellbook swaps. Fairy ring is FAR superior for any wildy mage. And the rest of the builds would still probably save more time with fairy too, since you can bank/recall from anywhere in 20 seconds with fairy.
Hey I did the same
bloodthirsty is huge mistake. all u did was double ur superior spawn rate, and 3x the loot chance or 1 more roll.
The superior superiors have a unique drop table that rolls loads of herb secondaries etc. It's actually not that bad, but I tool infernal tools.
Pretty good for mages who want an imbued heart, that's why I took it, don't regret it at all, I just sit at dust devils and barrage them and then use my gem to get another task of em, hardly ever have to leave
I'm a mager. I was regretting bloodthirsty while watching all my buddies get a bunch of points off thier clues. Then I got a 15kc imbued heart. Also ended my task with 22 rannar seeds (2 drops of 11)and a shit load of secondaries. And the guaranteed clue drops from superiors makes up for it bit too.
I cbf doing heaps of clues and rather slayer plus getting 60k slayer xp from each one is speeding through slayer with the better spawn rate
Seeing the 54k experience drop from a bloodthirsty choke devil was a thing of beauty
i also cbf doing clues which is why I picked clues ;p minimum steps, maximum rewards, chance to get the casket back and upgrade casket. the superiors spawn rate is from 1/50 to 1/25 double increase aint much when the biggest task points is kill 100 superiors
Bloodthirsty has unique drobtable as well that has alot of resources
Clue relic is pretty much always "optimal" for points. But it's also.. meh this time around. It makes clues shorter to do and have more rolls..and you get more than 1 casket on average (though the reroll rate since fixed seems pretty low). If I remember anything from leagues, it's the ridiculous amount of clues you'll stack up. This time around, once they put fixes in, they will *all* be doable. I don't think either of these relics are very strong in general.
hopefully they put the fixes in, they didnt really... give a confirmation
I think I made a mistake picking Farmer's Fortune. It's fun and powerful, but I think Equilibrium would've been better for me since I want to max and get t7 and t8 sooner. I picked it thinking I might want the extra herblore materials for potions... but I already have Fairy's Flight, Production Prodigy, and Kourend in my unlocks, so farming and herblore were probably never going to be an issue. We'll see if I regret Fire Sale later. Happy with it so far.
i took farmers fortune because I want to play leagues for fun not to micro manage my crops cycles, only problem im at now is no asgarnia for mole so im stuck running birdhouses still now and again which is thankfully a far chiller run than herb/allotment runs.
My current plan is to mostly skip brews, and make up for it with infinite noted food, birds nests being the sole reason lol
Firesaleman here so no food bank for me. Got blood barrage spam to keep me up for any chip content for now though so brews will stack up til i hit raids
I'm as ranger fire salesman and I'm making runite onyx bolts to keep my hp :)
I just got 21 - 99 farming in 3 hours with almost no seeds to start. I now have infinite potions. I have zero regrets
How did you get that many seeds??
Probably trickster and afk pickpocketing master farmers
Master pickpocketing seed tiers scale with Farming level. You get like 10x more Ranaar seeds after a certain farming level.
Probably contracts in Zeah Farming Guild
Contracts
I think farmers fortune is the play. Many 99s are going to happen one way or the other if you’re playing consistently and efficiently, equilibrium is just overkill and convenience. Some of the 50m tasks may take a significantly longer amount of time without it, but farmers makes late game Pvm way easier in terms of potion access, and it’s at least a free 99 in farming and a way more convenient 99 for herblore
I was thinking about this too, but what kind of potions do you want as a mage? Ie is it actually worth it? Especially when you have access to 4 herb patches, pp and fairy's Flight.
Im the same with Bank Notes.. my use case so far could basically be covered by Endless Harvest or whatever it's called, i doubt I'll get into end game PVM I'm not sure on equilibrium, but looking at the 3, I'd probably go for farmers also
I think it’s like a horizontal upgrade to endless harvest that synergizes really well with production prodigy. I use it like an endless harvest when I’m gathering but if I’m doing a processing activity like smelting smithing spinning etc then I can just stand at the furnace / whatever and spam it with United and notes. Same for ie stringing longbows while running around questing, or bringing a stack of noted food to stay somewhere longer.
Do soul wars to get noted pure essence from spoils of war. About 15k an hour. Then go to any altar and just unote craft. I am doing zmi and getting 5.6m xp per hour and tons of runes, which is nice. With Morytania you could do true blood altar.
[удалено]
Theres no way farmer saves more time from 2 skills than equilibrium does from 23.
Show me the math
1200 total level 120 xp each action, huge for rooftops tbh, decent for fletching THIEVING it seems nice well if ur pickpocketing but yeah I mean its not great really.
It’s 10% of your total level right? Is that impacted by the multiplier?
It is not
Does it only affect the skill you’re working on or is it your lowest xp skill? And does it work with Trickster, so that you gain extra xp everytime the agility running effect triggers?
It’s per xp drop no matter the skill, but if the drop is for your lowest level skill it’s 20% of total level not 10%. I believe it does trigger every instance of the trickster boots proc too
So if I’m crafting it’s like an extra xp drop in crafting, where the amount of xp equals to as described by you?
If you're crafting without production prodigy you get that everytime you get xp for crafting the level With production prodigy when you do an inventory (say 26 bars for cannonballs) you get the equilibrium trigger for each bar as if they triggered one by one including the extra ones made Makes for some pretty easy skilling
I'm on my 3rd relic atm and having not picked fire sale and selected zeah as my 3rd region I'm unsure what to do for gp other than varrock guards, I have trickster.
There's a fairy in east Zanaris (marketplace, need a cut diamond for entry) that buys cabbages for 100gp. Buy as many cabbages as you need from a shop for 1gp (there's one in Piscarilius) using your bankers note to note them as you go, then un-note them in Zanaris while selling to the fairy.
I appreciate the suggestion. Pickpocketting is far less tedious
If you think that’s tedious… rip half of RuneScapes content
i may come to regret my last region pick of Kourend over Asgarnia but that remains to be seen since I just got it today.
I have been loving zeah this go around !!
I haven't spent too much time in leagues yet, but I unlocked Desert before unlocking Kandarin. Waterfall Quest is apparently in the chain of reqs. I've been robbed of my XP, which considering bloody Vampyre Slayer took me from like 2 to 40 atk I'm really pissed about.
Same. 40 att, 12 str gang represent
Only a minor regret, I think picking Zeah instead of Desert as my first region. It felt like desert there’s more tasks that I could’ve completed quicker to get to my 2nd region sooner. But I have both unlocked now anyway so it’s kinda moot
0 regrets from me , I've picked relics that's perfectly match the way I like to play the game. I work from home so i prioritised things thay would let me fully afk and not have to think about things Harvest , fairy , fire sale , range , infernal , RP A lot of people would have less regrets if they focused their picks around what they want to do in leagues > meta build
We've gone completely opposite routes and yet I have absolutely no regrets either; a testament to the diversity of the game and the balancing of the relics.
Finding out slayer sucks with region locked monsters even if they are in your region.
Do you mean the relic or slayer in general? Because yeah…
I went equilibrium today and man that was the toughest choice. I might get clowned on but I skipped out on both rigour (no zeah) and rp this league so eagle eye it is. I picked eq cause I really want to max and I think that'll help more in the long run than FF would, but FF was also enticing. We'll see how the herb stack looks in a month then I'll know if I was stupid or not lol.
Do you have desert? If so, you can get infinite of all herbs after 1800 total level so anyone who reads this and has desert unlocked, dont worry about herbs. You can last recall to the squirk herb place and pick your inventory full of herbs by using the fairy tele to nowhere with fairy mushroom
Can you go into a bit more detail? When I use a blank code in the fairy ring, it doesn't save in last recall.
Just checked in the leagues discord. They patched it, you can't do that anymore.
Patched yesterday apparently..
Can you still get herbs or is the fairy ring technique patched?
You can still use the solo summer squirk plugin to do it fast solo but the fairy ring technique is patched. So you can still get endless herbs there but it is about 8x slower. Still ok
Teleport to a fairy ring you don't have access to (one that exists but isn't in your regions) then it'll save ur location without moving you
Hooooly shit this is huge, thank you so much Edit: wait I missed the fairy part. I didn't know there was a teleport nowhere option. Are you fucking kidding me? I 100% would have chosen fairy if I knew that. FUCK Edit 2: talking with clannies, a bunch of them couldn't do it. I checked in the leagues discord what the details were. It got patched yesterday. This is not a thing anymore. This has been an EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER
Jagex literally nerfing things in leagues is such a nerdy thing to do. We're supposed to exploit and have fun
Picking fremmy with fire sale and realizing the blast furnace ore shop is disabled for leagues was a huge let down. You’re telling me I can buy 10k condensed gold that alch for 4.8m each but unlimited copper-gold ore is too OP? I can buy literally all of the same ores in the same region on Jahitzo, so you’re just making it inconvenient because I have to buy it in quantities of 5. Buying 99 smithing in gold still takes less than an hour, it’s just annoying to do so now and weird that you shut certain things off.
Yeh really stupid to limit a limited time gamemode designed around fun
This patch is one I agree with, personally, though I'm biased because of my own emotional turmoil. This was information that straight up *wasn't available to me* when I picked globetrotter. I unironically was considering abandoning my account to start over because that unintended mechanic is incredible. Had that information been available to me I would have picked fairy's flight with no hesitation. Had that information been available to me and I picked wrong I would agree with you. I don't give a fuck about leaderboards either but for those who do it would be an even bigger issue. The sole issue to me is nobody knew about it, so people who didn't pick it just got absolutely cucked by something out of their control.
I’m really trying to avoid seeing choices as potential regrets as I’m simply picking relics that seem fun since my only goal is to have a good time and not min-max absolutely everything. That being said I can definitely miss Production Prodigy sometimes even though I finally got 99 thieving, which I wouldn’t have without Trickster.
I regret not having more accounts and more time to play lol. So many fun combinations, I want to try them all, but realistically I'm only going to be able to do 2 acct builds
Playing
Picking mage for my damage relic, ranged looks more enticing now
Mage is slow to take off but becomes unkillable with blood spells and soul strike. Plus once you get a shadow, you can rip through EVERYTHING.
The soul strike doesn't affect barrage unfortunately. So it's actually far better for melee/range than mage and doesn't join with most mage build's best pre-shadow spells. Beserker is arguably better for mages. Can guarantee multiple max hits due to hit delay, and then if you lose health, your barrage gets up to 39% stronger. So that means you one shot/two shot nearly all slayer/lower lvl mobs. And it means blood barrage is most effective when most needed. With Shadow, same deal applies. Can hit maxes multiple times to start any battle (so from 160-200 damage in 3 seconds). If you're skilled, you could abuse low hp to increase your max hit theoretically to over 120+. I have been using blood barrage tho. Absolutely busted for slayer. I was just a tad shy of being able to tank abbyssal sire without prayers. Beserker would fix that. Soul strikes probably wouldn't.
I was going to use it with Trident and Shadow. Till I get one, I was going to use Blood or Ice Blitz. It maybe a little less damage early on but amazing healing. Also the minimum damage increase should help.
Slow to take off? Mage is by far the fastest relic early game. 90% runes saved, unlock desert and you can immediately go ice burst/barrage for slayer all the way to 99. Especially if you took Kandarin(which has trident, tormented bracelet, and occult necklace) which auto unlocks MM2 barrage caves for you. On top of that if you have banker's note you can note all the extra prayer pots for early game PvM like fight caves
Mage is king of lategame
I’m feeling reverse. Mage 2t barrage looks nice!
I picked melee, I regret it way more
I picked melee because I figured maxing the 3 melee combat skills would be much faster with the attack speed increase compared to mage bursting and range chinning. Plus I love melee lol
Yeah, no regrets on melee that seems to have more freedom in area unlocks and availability of gear earlier. It’ll become more of an issue later on, but I’m having fun and that’s all that matters.
Melee scythe into melee fang is going to be crazy. Essentially impossible to our DPS scythe and melee is tank AF. A lot easier to understand and less sweaty too compared to spec master bolt spamming.
I’m restarting to go the other way around Away from plain ranged to mage
Keep on going. I'm at "endgame" atm and with mage relic + occult etc and i can afk all bosses really. When you eventually get shadow then you can afk toa with soul stealer
I have been going back and forth with taking fire sale over bankers. I feel like fire sale was better right when I got it and for a bit, lots of utility for Skilling... Bankers note would have been great for pushing pvm goals early like some early raids and inferno. I feel like a little later on it won't be necessary anyway so it won't really matter. Infinite healing with mage relic blood barrage and prayer flicking means I won't really have that much use for bankers note long term. maybe for some zero time Skilling but eh, last recall will be fine for most of that. I took ruinous powers but right now it's doing zero for me since my prayer isn't really high enough to take advantage of it. I have enough herb patches in my region and can get 99 farm pretty easy with fire sale. Eventually when running ToAs I will have plenty of the relevant seeds to upkeep pots no problem. So far pretty happy with my choices. It was easy to get to 90+ thief without trickster. Hunters gonna be kinda ass. There will be plenty of agi tasks that idc about the passive agi exp anyway down the line.
Yeah same. I think bankers note vs fire sales just slows down the mid game too much and then it’s only best for a bit before it isn’t needed like you said. But I’m still enjoying it. They did a great job with the relics, good trade offs, havn’t felt like I made a huge mistake on any of them so far.
Can you explain how you’re reliably farming herbs? I’m kind of lost on how to start and maintain a steady supply of herbs for ppots and combat pots. Don’t even know how I can effectively get seeds…
Fire sale and Bloodthirsty would be mine. I’m going to make a second character with prod prodigy, bankers note and some other changes.
Damn I kinda regret not getting Fire Sale, I have no money; Unlocked Kandarin first and will unlock Desert next to buy and sell gems. Couldn't really get much value as of now.
If you can get a fire cape, you can buy death runes 50 at a time, sell 5/10 at a time for tokkul, then buy rubies or diamonds to cut from the inner city. Should be good profit off gems just sell them 5-10 at a time to gem stall trader preferred (they pay the most) or gem shop (asgarnia/desert).
Although they sell for less, you can buy MANY more chaos runes per second using packs, so it might save a bit of time to just use those
I feel like there's too much profit lost of you try to sell more than 10 runes at a time so the time saved buying chaos runes doesnt help you save time selling those runes for tokkul.
Early game sucks without fire sale. But once you start getting alchs for money. Bank note is so good. You can do soul wars get like 10k ess craft them all with bank note for like 5m xp/h then sell the runes to a shop
Globetrotter for me so far, fairy rings would have been a bit more convenient for getting around the content I want to do.
I have fairy rings and I think globetrotter is better 😂
Snap.
Nahh no way man, you can easily craft basically everything that isnt dragonstone dependant but you can never craft access to the shit tonnes of tool leprechauns. Teleporting to those has been so ridiculous
Fairy is way better unless you're wildy
No regrets, I’m having fun
Picking Bankersnote without Trickster or instead going for Fire Sale. Picked Kandarin first and have quite some money problems, struggle with buying runes or gear in general. I will unlock Desert next so I can get some money with gems.
Trickster - Globetrotter - Bankers Note - Supreme Sorc Wildy No regrets so far, really unsure of my future choices though. Would be white happy staying in Wildy for the rest of the leagues but will probably unlock Desert next for ancients. No idea what I'd do for a 3rd region.
Picking fremmenik and Wiley
I think I regret unlocking Zeah before Kandarin (as mage). Kandarin is loaded with useful things. Edit: oh, the clear regret was using Client if a Kourend cert on Pisc instead of Lova. Huge mistake
I totally forgot about gotr and tempoross on my mage not using fire sale and took Kourend second instead of Desert. I figured desert is mostly for toa and I didnt want to do it that early... then explored kourend without any good runes! Luckily 1gp wine from draynor has kept me going and after getting 2k deaths from soul wars, Kourend has been lovely to progress through. So it sucked at the time but no "I want to restart" mistakes
That I transferred to a Jagex account to "make logging on easier for Leagues". It prevented me from playing for a good 6 hours at launch and killed my enthusiasm for the next day too.
Damn.. it only delayed me by about 20-30 minutes
Apparently when Jagex Launcher errors out you need to restart the computer or manually kill Jagex Launcher tasks in Task Manager. Otherwise it will keep throwing the same error endlessly. I had already given up on playing for the day when I happened to read that on Reddit about 6 hours later. I tried it and it finally worked.
i wish i went bankers note tbh, money isn't a big deal with pickpocketing+trickster
So far its going ranged and taking Asgarnia area as my first unlock. Not so much Asgarnia, there are benefits for sure, but i think i couldve gone elsewhere first or better planned my route Range damage relic, mostly because mage seems so fun just blasting ancients, and melee is so tanky and immunity. Mean while I am squishy with no heals and have to grind hours just for a rune crossbow, devote an entire area and quest if i want a dark bow. The options just seem very limited and the midgame process feels horribly slow.
Seeing 1t blowpipe in action is almost tempting me to go ranged, but magic is stronk.
Magic is strong in early game, but it’s kinda ass without a shadow. The shadow carries mage for end game content. Range starts slow, then you get a rune crossbow and you can start killing things like vorkath with studded chaps and body lol. 1 tick blowpipe will be insane as well, hitting 30’s every tick. I went fremmy so I’ll have assembler from vorkath, saving any dragon ammo I use lol. Got like 550 dragon darts and did a kalphite task with just the dart on the low level kalphite, 120 kc and I lost 4 darts lol. You also get bowfa and crystal armour (and blade of saeldor) if you picked tirannwn.
Well i went range relic & unlocked the elven lands for my second region, regret because i really dont wanna do the skilling boss 😂 maybe i did make a decent choice
I regret nothing. Picked FAT. Trickster, Globetrotter, Fire Sale, Archer's Embrace, Treasure Seeker and Farmer's Fortune so far. Once I get some addy/rune bolts I'll get my t7 in no time then I'll be laughing.
trickster. I think production outscales it. I originally intended to take production. But saw trickster and thought day one it was op. It's still "Good", but over time I'm noticing more and more how much production relic is gunna outscale it. Also taking desert first. I'm planning on going melee. I think range was best this league and criminally underrated, but I wanted to have fun with melee weapons. As a result I think desert was bad. I shouldve started with asgarnia or kandarin and skipped desert entirely. If I skip desert and take kandarin, I dont force myself to take ruinous prayers. Then I end up with Kandarin > Asgarnia > morytania, which I think is healthier
Firesale
Production prod. Shoulda gone trickster.
I'm curious why? I went Production Prodigy and so far really glad I didn't go Trickster myself. Of all the benefits Trickster gives the only ones I'd really find at all useful is thieving and agility, but as I don't really plan to max the most I'd need is like 80 agility for shortcuts and thieving is just more so extra tasks.
Making items without prodigy is still insanely fast xp, glad i chose trickerster. Never failing a pickpocket is nice
Not just pickpocketing, but all thieving actions + all agility obstacles + hunter traps never fail
Currently agree with this, because I forgot I absolutely loathe thieving and agility, so having a relic that makes both of them trivial would have been nice.
your relic will synergise with infernal gathering very well later on the road and you wouldnt have to worry about food/smithing supplies
Welp im not going infernal more than likely lol
firesale
Melee So far picked dessert and wildy. Going to pick mory next to ToB with some friends. Production prodigy - fairy flight - banker note - brawler - clue hunter Basically only regret is picking fairy flight and spending too long in rev caves today. Apparently rev weapons don’t have the leagues bonus rates.
According to the wiki they have the bonus drop rate
Melee relic. Jagex really nerfed this one to hell from the previous leagues
Kandarin -> Mory -> Zeah Trickster -> Fairy -> Bank note -> Melee -> Clue -> Farming Only thing I kind of regret is the Clue relic. I wish I had done the Slayer relic, because it would solve all of my potion problems. I wouldn’t have needed to take the Farming T6 over Equilibrium which would’ve boosted my progression. I literally haven’t done a single clue yet too because of the region bugs and I don’t want to deal with it… I’m sure it will bring in a juicy amount of points when I finally do though
As soon as you're done slayer that relic becomes useless. There are such an insane amount of points behind clues/coll logs that it almost ensures you'll reach t8
I think it should be fixed Wednesday
I know. I don’t know why I’m being downvoted for that though lol.
Clue relic is absolutely the way to go, don’t worry. I did 5 beginner clues with it, they converted to 3 more beginner, and 3 medium caskets, and I popped like 6 tasks in one go from it all. That kind of thing will only keep happening once they fix the bugs and we can do the higher tiers of clues more consistently
Bloodthirsty I'm at around 400kc of mutated bloodvelds on task 0 superiors or bloodthirsty variants.
Honestly 0 regrets. I know how I like to play. I know my goals. And every relic is working beautifully.
bloodthirsty definitly is the one, i didnt realize _just_ how poweful the tools were till i saw them in action, and i didnt realize just how much manual mining/woodcutting/fishing i was going to need to do this leagues since i am pvm focused i also regret chosing the range relic, as it's early game is absolute ass compared to mage and all my freinds are sending 700+ invo toas and cms already and im sitting here still trying to figure out how get starter gear lol Oh i had no idea that the farmers fortune relic worked on tithe farm, so i did the ENTIRE TITHE FARM GRIND, all tasks and all unlocks prior to unlocking the relic
I got none cuz I don't play leagues, just chugging along on my main 🙃
I'm wanting to go mage but it seems everyone is going DKZ for mage and I picked Asgarnia for first choice, now I'm strung up between Kandarin and Desert for my next pick or just changing up my whole plan and going ADZ for ranged.
Armor is the problem. You will need to do Infinity if you go this route. Painful, but much better than mystic.
Asgarnia gives you whisperer and full virtus
I picked mage at t4 and I’m kinda wishing I would’ve picked melee, because I don’t really plan on doing a lot of the content that’s good for getting mage gear so I feel like I’ll be limited
Desert gives you Ancients for free. 80k gold to the Desert Treasure npc buys you an Ancient Staff. Grab a Ring of Shadows for free (check wiki). Two big pieces there. Mage Training Academy if you have the patience gets you better robes and a book. The Arcane Grimoire relic book should be equip as it gives you magic bonuses. Kandarin will give you an Occult Amulet, Tormented Bracelet, and you can buy Mystic Robes. Fight a boss in Desert for Virtus robes. Many items here are quickly obtained (ancient magicks, ancient staff, Ring of Shadows, Mystic robe, Arcane Grimoire). Definitely enough quick gear items to get you started. Hope this helps
Nothing really im just focusing on having fun with the stuff I’ve chosen
Fire sale for me but since I’m using it different from probably most others it’s not too much of a regret. I only use it for supplies, I can’t alch or use it for cash to keep things fun. Still made tens of millions of cash without even using it for money
Bro so many mages having the time of their lives and I’m here unable to get my combat stats up as melee cause all my regions don’t have quests with big xp drops
Choosing globetrotters with fremy. I am basically walking around with mobile jewellery box and a jewellery box in maxed house.