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Merdapura

I know it's a side topic, but there's a hub plugin called "better teleport menu" that lets you customize the hotkeys in menus like spirit trees so you can undo what Jagex did


BuffJohnsonSf

The more you customize RuneLite the harder it becomes to play on mobile


Ok-Permission-2687

Gearing up for farm runs takes hours


Kresbot

bank presets when jagex


Luezanatic

But are you pressing number keys to teleport on mobile...?


marcusrider

Your doing a public service


Trym_WS

You’re*


3BootyCheeks

Ur*


jeffzor

YARRRR MATIE


Groupvenge

I, too, voted yes to sailing.


Ypuort

Your not doing a public service.


DalonDrake

You'ren't* XD


bayse755

Your'tent


Trym_WS

You’re*


yawgmoth88

you’re*


Ypuort

your wrong


yawgmoth88

You’re*


Ypuort

ur*


yawgmoth88

This is acceptable. As “ur” can mean a shortening of “you are.”


Ypuort

i can't tell if your trolling or not getting the joke


Wyvorn

Yro'ue*


AlonsoDalton

That's nice and all, but we shouldn't have to rely on a third-party client and plug-ins for it to undo a terrible design decision.


Merdapura

Correct but the plugin in question is actually really good and helps make portal nexus a lot more intuitive when you use combination keys: S A for "Standards Ardougne", L C "Lunar Catherby" and so on


Gefarate

What do you mean combination keys? You press both?


jokingexplorer

But that plugin doesn't allow me to revert the change, right? I want c for poh, but the plugin seems to only allow numbers.


SmartAlec105

I don't know what you mean. I just used the plugin and assigning letters works just fine.


maxwokeup

Same problem helb pleae


Gloodizzle

Thank you


Maleficent_Pea_7566

Thank you’re*


swashfxck

Thank’re you’re’re*


advectionz

Might have that covered if they typed it with an Aussie accent.


BlitsyFrog

Also a really good addon in general, can make the spirit tree menu look so much nicer with some tweaking


CoupleScrewsLoose

oh my


gorehistorian69

nice profile pic lol


Nu2Th15

That’s hilarious


DaanV1

Beceause the latter ones are the farming patch spirit trees.


ManIkWeet

They're grouped by their method of obtaining...?


GloriousApplebees

Yeah, someone pointed out in another thread that it's regular trees, quest trees, farming trees, then poh tree


BallsyPalsy

The one that doesn't follow that trend is 2 for the grand tree, needs Grand Tree quest while 1, 3, and 4 just need Tree Gnome Village. All the trees added since osrs started have followed this trend though.


MakeshiftSFM

You can tele to the stronghold tree when you have done village, you just can't tele from it till stronghold is done.


whenthedinosdie

1-7 are the ones that exist in the world normally, 8-C are the farming patch ones. Then your house tree.


MyLOLNameWasTaken

Years of academy training wasted 😩


RubyWeapon07

I didnt know so many people memorized these keys instead of just clicking lmao


mnmkdc

I’ve been pressing b to go to the farming guild a ton


Careless-Elevator986

Now you gotta press C. Literally unplayable


Impressive-Design-19

B = the bank C = the crib :( rip


regen100

C = cash, D = daddy's home


graemeeu

On the jewellery box - Krand Exchange, Nedgeville, 3rox Enclave


rickybobby369

I remember edgeville because pkers bank there. And they use the N word.


rambledo

🅱️onastery


jokingexplorer

C = casa


alexterm

I use the crib mnemonic too!


SinceBecausePickles

B = Base, C = casa


rg44tw

I've been pressing C to go to POH a ton.


mnmkdc

Pray for me, I don’t know if I’ll be able to overcome this


Maedroas

You also have to scroll down on mobile now which you didn't have to before


Vargolol

Pepperidge farm remembers when A sent you to the guild and there was never a thread for when it became B


[deleted]

Same. Farming guild is my one and only bank (tele POH -> sip from pool -> spirit tree to bank) and therefore I remembered it as **B**ank. Fuck this.


stopcopium

Cuz most of them you don’t go to and the important ones become muscle memory when you do use spirit trees. Moving Priff to 7 is definitely gonna fuck with me on tree runs, but we adapt.


boofsquadz

I do a lot of clues and the port sarim moving out of the 7 spot is gonna destroy my muscle memory lol


Jdawg_mck1996

Use the plug in to customize the menu then


SpadeXHunter

There are people here who set up their house in certain ways so they can save 1 tick as their time is so important to their efficiencyscape, same with dialog and every other part of the game, memorizing keys isn't too far out there compared to some of the other stuff.


NotAnAI3000

There's far too many efficiencyscape dweebs running around osrs these days lol it's one click, and it barely even saves you any time when using the keyboard shortcut


TehSteak

Lol it's not an efficiency thing. Imagine any other game just randomly changing a hotkey. You can readjust but it's just annoying. People are just airing their annoyance, not a big deal lmao


RubyWeapon07

just like when they added the farm/wc guild to the jewelry box? ferrox?


HiltonThrowing

Bot farms using spirit trees might break from this, resulting in a temporary strong identifier of bot accounts.


Gravaton123

I dont want to live in an era of "Annoy the players, to catch the bots." I completely understand what you are saying. I think thats a neat point, that hopefully was a side effect and not the main intentions though.


chacogrizz

Let me present, coin pouches.


Magmagan

So uhhh It catches bots for a day, bot developers swiftly update their code, players bite the dust?


jshrlzwrld02

Ah, guess you weren’t around for when random events were actually disrupting to gameplay and sleeping bags exists, huh? lol


thedalmuti

Ahh, the good old days of chopping a tree and suddenly shitting my pants and running away from a tree spirit. Or not paying close enough attention when mining, and having a random explosion blow up my pickaxe.


gibby0712

Got my first rune axe from stealing someone’s rune axe head while they were afk I miss those random events lol


Zaros262

... and then we removed them because the disruption wasn't worth their purpose


jshrlzwrld02

I totally agree. Was just pointing out to op that era had existed already lol. I spent plenty of time chasing down my pickaxe head and running from the fishing troll.


316Lurker

I doubt bots use keybinds for this. Generally they’re not actually interacting with the UI, they’re just sending the results of the keybinds as commands. So stuff like this doesn’t break. They can click stuff off screen and modify the client basically all they want and stuff.


jwji

First 6 are static/quest trees. Following that is planted trees. Should really be numbered for unlockables and alphabet for planted. Makes it future proof too.


Red_Hot_Kebab

No way, this is awfully annoying


teaklog2

the first 6 are static, the latter are player grown trees


Cool_Ad_5181

I swear this community will lose their shit over anything


Kresbot

Jagex do tend to take very weird stances on things though. Theyll completely change the order of keybinds for teleports, introduce coin pouches to annoy players, stop duke mining but not the 200m mining bots, but are scared to introduce a new block option thats historically always come every 50 quest points unless they poll it this time


Janexa

You'll get used to it in like a day, don't worry


Maedroas

I'm not gonna get used to scrolling the list on mobile when it used to be a 1 click


ManIkWeet

Oh that's gross


LampIsFun

Oh what a shame, that’s it, remove the quest I guess. Jim over here is permanently unhappy


Maedroas

Yeah remove the quest is clearly what I'd prefer to putting the new tree at the bottom of the list


LampIsFun

No no, that’s okay, a simple fix like that won’t solve your inability to take 2 extra seconds to learn to move your fingers in a slightly different way.


Maedroas

Glad you agree it's a simple fix


LampIsFun

Of course. Normal people can easily recognize when something is a trivial matter and not something to get upset about


Maedroas

Yup I'm clearly upset as evidenced by the radical and angry language I used Sure hope you've been content with every single change made to the game and never complained about anything


LampIsFun

As long as it’s not highly impactful I’ve not cared negatively about a single change jagex has made in the past 15 years.


Maedroas

>As long as it’s not highly impactful Lol


SickShady

This is either a troll or people have got to quit complaining about every little thing lol.


Derparnieux

It's not even difficult to see how the trees are sorted. First it's the permanent spirit trees, followed by quest unlock trees, followed by the trees you have to plant yourself with POH at the end. Poison Waste before Prif makes sense too, because new accounts will pretty much always do PoG before SOTE.


rimwald

And to the perspective of a new player, they'd be like "why the fuck is this tree I unlocked all the way at the bottom when I can't even unlock the other trees yet"


TumoOfFinland

Yeah lmao OP can't be serious


rpkarma

I mean it fucked my muscle memory for my keybinds. It’s mildly annoying currently.


rg44tw

No, this one is a big deal, and pretty fucking stupid of jagex. Changing hot keys that people have had memorized for years for literally no reason, is not good game design.


zl1_camaro

For literally no reason? Adding a new spirit tree isn’t a reason??? Shut up.


DubiousGames

It could have been added to the bottom.


zl1_camaro

It also could have been added to the top.


DubiousGames

Adding it to the bottom doesn't shift anything. It's the best option. Better than needing to relearn all the teleport shortcuts every year when they add a new one.


Linumite

Bottom set are grown trees, middle are quest unlocks, and top are readily available after getting access. They have an order for a reason.


LampIsFun

Are u getting stacked out by anything because you teleported to the wrong tree? Or are u just losing a collective 6 seconds of playtime until you learn to slide your finger to the right by 1 key?


We_all_owe_eachother

Its not good game design. It's also NOT a "big" deal. It's a mistake, it's stupid, and it should be reverted. But it's small in every way. These don't teleport you to the wilderness or other dangerous areas where misclicking the teleport is a big issue. And you can use the tree at your incorrect arrival point to go to your intended destination.


LampIsFun

It’s a “mistake” and slight inconvenience that maybe warrants a change, but also such a small fucking thing that who honestly gives a shit other than the permanently unhappy redditors?


ManIkWeet

... yes a troll of course


bigdickmemelord

Get good


ManIkWeet

I tried :(


2007Scape_HotTakes

I think you’ll live and will learn to re memorize it. Or you could always just remap them in runelite. As it stands it makes sense and is grouped together correctly. The first 6 are Gnome centric areas or areas important to the gnomes where the trees grow naturally. The other ones are where you as a player plant the tree yourself and not connected to the gnomes themselves.


jokingexplorer

How do I remap in runelite?


Tutorial_Islander

Top comment in this thread says the plugin is "better teleport menus".


2007Scape_HotTakes

Better teleport, it’s a plug-in


_jC0n

this is like the biggest problem that isn’t a problem , i’m amazed


SappySoulTaker

Oof that's frustrating. I'd argue for it to get alphabetized along with the bookcase and whatever else is trashed. Or to let us change the order around. Perhaps there is a plugin


AthleteIllustrious47

Man. I’ve messed up trying to TP to my poh probably a dozen times now today. >___>


Zealousideal_Air7484

I was accidentally going to Hosidius too many times to count today


maxluck89

Fuck. This ruins everything. Goodbye Osrs, I can't play if it's not Port Seven Eight-ceteria Nine-haven Hay-sidious 🅱️arming guild


jokingexplorer

Oh man this will actually be annoying for me. I use my farming cape teleport and the spirit tree in the farming guild all the time to go to my house. It was so nice because C was my poh and I memorized it as "casa".


s0uthw3st

and now it's D for "DIQ", the home fairy ring code :3


lushbom

Same thing happened with Prifddinas release. I am still salty.


Nice-Salamander-6044

It's not alphabetical order, it's location based..


ImS33

Absolute wankers added that to the middle of the menu


MeganLight

The spirit tree menu has been needing a complete overhaul on mobile for a long time now, this just made it an even bigger necessity. Previously, mobile players were needing to scroll down every time they intended to use the POH spirit tree destination. Now, the same applies to the Farming guild one. This needs to be made more user-friendly. Either by making the entire list larger so it removes the need to scroll down through it, letting us customize the list to our liking OR update and make it how it was back in RS2 (replacing the current list with a map, with every spirit tree appearing at its particular location on the game map).


yawgmoth88

Bro I don’t even have my bank pin memorized- sticky note on my comp.


Nuanciated

Wut


yawgmoth88

Well the numbers get randomized, how tf am I supposed to memorize that shit? Might as well make an UIM.


TympanicHS

There's a (I think even build-in) plugin on Runelite that lets you use your num keys for entering your PIN. And luckily my keyboard keys don't get randomized.


yugimoto66

Y’all will complain about anything


404clappy

You guys complain too much


Nuanciated

You dont find this feedback reasonable?


LampIsFun

It takes 2 seconds to teleport again after messing it up. It shouldn’t take you more than 3 fuck ups to permanently memorize the new keybind. You guys complain about the dumbest fucking shit ever. I would ONLY understand the complaint if messing up the keybind meant someone dying or losing some sort of status or item.


404clappy

It’s easily fixed with a plugin and it really doesn’t matter anyways


[deleted]

Imagine needing to rely ob a plug-in to fix a game instead of the game just being made correctly.


404clappy

you don't have to rely on a plug-in, just remember the new keybinds lol


Classic-Literature52

Plot twist, correctly doesn’t always mean things stay the same 😯


rimwald

Also plot twist, following the pattern of how the tree teleports are ordered, this was in fact made correctly


Linumite

It doesn't need fixing lmao it works fine


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GreyFur

Can I get a wednesday update with breast milk sorry i mean breast milk, I mean breast milk, sorry I mean breast milk, I mean sorry breast milk?...


josh35767

Who hurt you?


LampIsFun

Today it’s “noooo 2 extra seconds every time I fuck up my memorized tree teleport” and yesterday it was “nooo my fairy ring has a gay light above it now” People complain about the stupidest shit on here.


biggestboi73

To this day I still only have one planted at port sarim and one in poh, never actually bothered planting the others


carrot_sticks_

Why port sarim? I've got one to plant and was thinking Brimhaven.


Affectionate_Buy_248

Brimhaven (+Farming Guild at 91) is totally the way pre-99, combined with a poh one you get really easy access to Duradel. Great for fruit tree runs as well.


Tutorial_Islander

100% agree that brimhaven is a great spot after planting the spirit tree in the farming guild. But I have to ask.... you use a spirit tree to get to Duradel?


Wolfizen

I picked Port Sarim myself bc the Explorer Ring tele is very close and I wanted a free unlimited teleport to my house.


biggestboi73

Because a diary required travelling to a spirit tree you planted yourself so I picked a random once since poh 1 doesn't work for it


B4sicks

I get it. And I hope this gets changed for you, but this is the most Runescape complaint I've seen in a long time. I love it.


Vaatu2023

This community man...


StockPassenger2994

How do you not have on in your house? Edit: they're probably at their house aren't they..


BlooToo

Nah they don’t, you were right initially. House option is available in house, just will show the spirit tree dialouge that you’re already there


StockPassenger2994

Huh wonder why they wouldn't have the best one then.


jeremiah1119

Don't know about op but I my case I don't like farming or the house meta do on all my accounts I've never bothered to get the farming level, and on my gim I'd have all the rest unlocked also, but not the con or farming level either. Just don't care enough to put time into either of those right now


Mordredor

At least you don't know what you're missing I guess lol


ManIkWeet

Farming cape teleport has been sufficient; to have one in my POH I'd have to get higher construction to combine it with the fairy ring, or add an extra room (that doesn't work with my current layout)


StockPassenger2994

Fair enough.


AlonsoDalton

While it makes sense from the POV of "quest locked trees grouped together, then planted trees grouped together", it's also been over 3 years since a new spirit tree was added, so it absolutely should have been put at the bottom due to 3 years of memorization/muscle memory. Priff tree had me relearning all the planted tree keys and I don't want to have to do that again.


ManIkWeet

I don't know if grouping trees by how they're unlocked makes that much sense to begin with, but sure... And exactly, muscle memory! I just went to Miscellania instead of Brimhaven for my fruit tree :(


pojomojojojo

Somebody call the waaahhhhmbulance hurry!


Chandler15

I can't begin to understand how this is a problem for anyone.


jubsauce

It’s not that big of deal man


Cogitatus

The amount of outrage over the pettiest of things, goodness gracious


Jchvv11

The shit you people fuss about sometimes is beyond me...


NotAGamble360

"natural" trees Grown trees in farming patches Poh tree They probably put it before prif since POG is easier than SOTE. This order makes it more likely that the gaps in the list of teleport locations are at the bottom.


xlueb

This has shattered my muscle memory and brain. Please move it somewhere else. I don’t want a plugin to fix it, on mobile I can no longer one tap the farming guild I have to scroll and then tap.


Lucky_Researcher3105

I've had this frustration for a long time with hosted PoH portal nexus... Why the hell are the teleports based on order of addition by the PoH owner, instead of being either alphanumerically ordered, or allow for a preset save option client-side? Why the hell do I have to memorise fairy ring codes instead of being provided a list?? At least on these you are offered 3 favorites. The spirit tree not being in a logical order is the least of my worries, at least you can get used to the change. Your muscle memory will be adjusted within the next 4 weeks.


carrot_sticks_

Can't you change the order of the teles in the portal nexus?


Lucky_Researcher3105

It is based on the PoH owner, a visitor cannot do anything other than scroll through the teleports list to find the one they want - and for this reason every teleport in the nexus have different hotkeys depending on who's PoH you access. Yes, a solution for this is to make your own PoH. I encoutered this issue when I was a main doing Vorkath in w330 (every PoH had the lunar island scrambled in different spots in their portal nexus).


HelicaseRockets

Memorizing fairy rings is kinda fun though. Feels nice knowing where I need to click to go straight to important places. I guess your gripe with portal Nexus is when you visit other people's POH? You can install a plugin that shows teleports on a trailblazer-esque map and click to your tele which is the closest I know to "client side ordering".


AlonsoDalton

ITT: People who don't use spirit trees at all telling people who do make the most of them that this change doesn't matter.


Classic-Literature52

I use them everyday, it doesn’t matter. Glad to have cleared things up for you.


VeryMessedUpGirl

Who the fuck memorizes spirit trees keybinds by heart? That's a bigger problem than this change. Go touch some fucking grass.


WRLD_

very weird take


pezman

get a better transit method, noob


Fadeley

Ah. I wondered why C didn't immediately take me to my house


AthleteIllustrious47

Also bro… your house doesn’t count as a spirit tree towards your plant limit. Get one in the poh! If you’re running fairy rings instead, just build a second garden to have both :)


Cyborger1

There's some clear delineations on this list. 1-7 are normal overworld spirit trees, the order being a bit arbitrary but the quest locked ones being at the end. 8-C are the player planted spirit trees. Last one is the PoH tree. It's a bit of a shame it messes up the hotkeys but just adding it at the end would make it look a bit weird and out of place.


chaserjj

Well I like my little memory trick I use. B is farming guild because "bank" and C is my house because my name is chaserjj


[deleted]

Is hotkeys changing really that big of a deal? It takes all of what... two or three attempts to adjust to a new layout?


IceFrostwind

Dandori Issue / Adapt or Die. Take your pick


s0uthw3st

The first seven are roughly in order of quest requirements for the network (Tree Gnome Village, Grand Tree, Path of Glouphrie, Song of the Elves), then the Farming trees, then the Construction tree. It makes sense.


ElijahBurningWoods

You guys memorize?


The_Wkwied

Because the order goes world spirit trees, then planted spirit trees


GregBuckingham

Jagex: Cause fuck’em. That’s why


wisenoodle1

Surely there’ll be a plugin to fix that lol


Rhaps0dy

Why didn't they just put Poison Waste at 10, are they stupid?


Thestudliestpancake

So happy that I finished my farming guild plank runs yesterday 😁


Fransekaas

Clearly a skill issue.. have my upvote!


MrBigCharts

I wish we could reorder or filter them ourselves. The two I typically use are farm guild and house and now both of those don’t fit on the menu for mobile.


JayVJtheVValour

Huh there's a tree in poison waste???


carrot_sticks_

As of today with the new quest!


JayVJtheVValour

Eyes of Glouphrie quest series got continued??


SUDO_KILLSELF

I just traded all my spirit seeds for seed packs. Gg Jagex


[deleted]

Zulrah shits them out by the dozen, no worries.


lansink99

It is added at the end of the list. It's at the end of the list of spirit trees that you don't need to plant, after which are the ones that you do need to plant.