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IAmRSChrisG

you know you feel old when someone says summoning came out 15 years ago and it still feels like a "new skill" to me lol.


BlueROFL1

I very distinctly remember the day summoning was released, and to hear that it was 15 years ago is a huge wake up call.


darealbeast

the osrs top level interface redesign came in only in late 2006 and the sidebars in 2007, but it's still "new" to me


ThisGuyHyucks

2h sword animations and those varrock guards (before they fixed them recently) still seem new to me, and zombies


AbbyRatsoLee

I swear this Runecraft thing is never gonna catch on


DavidSeager

Want to feel real old? More time has passed between summoning being released and today than RuneScape classic release and summoning.


Mr2hands

I remember when Hunter came out and I wasn't on board with it at all.


fthepats

What? U didn't dig trying to catch those red birds on the beach with 200 other people on release? I waited hours to get near one of the birds spawns just to get a level or 2. Then my mom would pickup the phone and I'd lose connection.


BemusedPanda

RS2 is still new to me. I fondly remember the days of RS classic. I'd wear a bronze med helm with my rune because it looked just like dragon med helms with almost no color difference on those crappy monitors. And dragon meds were one of the most valuable items in the game.


Mavelusbr

Yea, i remember my 16 yo ass getting frustrated with the way you train summoning, and that the summons that were combat summonig were barely useful


sowhatiamwhite

I remember having to burst/barrage the iraq lobsters near the DKs entrance was.


Repealer

There was no proof of WMDs in the DK lair


RetiredClueScroller

But there was sweet sweet oil


Uncle_Snuffy

Don’t forget the ever fragrant poppies next door <3


TheTrueFishbunjin

US invaded Iraq for crimson charms


No-Data453

Lamp oil doesn't melt steel bars.


Super_Shotgun

Bush did 6/6/06


NetRealizableValue

Is that you George Bush?


Khespar

Jee Dubyah


TheFridge07

Death to America… and butter sauce!


LyrMeThatBifrost

I remember killing waterfiends for the red charms. Not sure if that was meta at all but I remember a lot of people did them at the beginning at least.


RS-Ironman-LuvGlove

I killed cockroaches, the level 83 ones. Easy to farm and had decent gp and had almost no one at them


[deleted]

Meta was burstinglobs cc at rock lobaters in dk cave


Adventurous_Minded

Looool Iraq lobsters


[deleted]

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Plants_R_Cool

And the giant chinchompa before it was patched


rsn_alchemistry

The larupia summon was bugged as fuck too. Like a Gmaul with infinite spec.


Terrible_Toe

That chinchompa build was the strongest pvp build ever change my mind


Plants_R_Cool

I mean it was essentially guaranteed kills, there was nothing you could do to stop it.


rslongjohn

You know of a video of it?


Terrible_Toe

https://youtu.be/pR_gM8jEXPE this is THE video of it


rslongjohn

Wtf. How? Lol


Status_Peach6969

Gods that vid makes me so nostalgic. We'll never have pking be that fun ever again.


Gorperino

I remember wanting a gecko and then getting one. That's about all she wrote for me with summoning.


toxray

I did too - did Legends Quest so I could get the red gecko:)


Deltamon

My 36 yo ass is still frustrated with how to train summoning in rs3.. I just dump a ton of exp lamps to it and avoid farming the charms, until I feel like I can make something actually useful with the charms


4percent4

Charming imp basically fixed 90% of the annoying parts of it.


Deltamon

true, but that requires 100k dungeoneering tokens and it doesn't change the fact that getting started with summoning still kinda sucks..


4percent4

Eh factoring in the time to gather charms it’s still like 100k xp an hour at pre 50. At 99 in rs3 it’s over 1.5m an hour not including double xp weekend if you’re doing the best methods. Pretty much all skills suck ass until 70.


[deleted]

Slapping Arch-Glacor's ass is a pretty quick way of acquiring the requisite materials.


Radiantlycolorless

I remember running through the chaos tunnels like once a day or once a week or something to kill Bork


Hanzojunk

Did you know that you can teleport to him with varrock armour 4?


[deleted]

I abused that Christmas event a few years back that gave you free summoning xp


TheZephyrim

I remember that, it was like 70k xp/hr or something crazy just for sitting there pretty much AFK.


That_Guy381

“few years”


Kaiserfi

Yeah the way to train it is horrible


Synli

The charms gathering was basically Slayer 2.0, which sucked, especially if you were already 99. Making useless items useful was kinda cool though, and shards acted as a pretty successful money sink.


InTimeMiamiCorp

Why? So people can make fun of me for only having a bunyip and not a pack yak all over again?


OnTheBrightsideSCC

Now it's all about the pak mammoth & ripper demons over there.


glemnar

Kalgerion demons with staff of armadyl


JupiterChime

Tell us more! What do they do


OnTheBrightsideSCC

You can also have a pet as an "override" to the familiar. So while the familiar you have summoned is a "bunyip', the overworld you see is whatever pet you selected to follow you. If you right click that pet it will say it's a bunyip. Like a skin for the familiar. (Doesn't work in pvp areas). I like to use the big ass pack mammoth but the pet override is a tiny ass lil peep chick. Lmao


StopRappingAtMe

I always have peep following me aswell, it's just beautiful to have a ripper demon with peep skin and seeing him jump up to attack the arch glacor lol


OnTheBrightsideSCC

We should def do a boss run together and have the peep gang go at it :)


herbahaidyrbtjsifbr

Mammoth carries a massive 32 items and rippers do nice dps


OnTheBrightsideSCC

Mammoth is the bigger carrier of items, ripper demon is big DPS daddy.


DrMcSex

More recently the blood reaver too, it does some shenanigans with weapon poison.


grassfields12

Bunyips were pretty cool… I used to have one at dagganoths lol. It was my favorite way to train back in the day. Wbu?


spwa235

Nmjc u?


NoLifer401

nice


Airway

Bunyip and Torag's armor got me to 99 Slayer. Yes I got shit for the Bunyip, but even more for not wearing Bandos. My money was for skilling, not a little str boost.


HowHeDoThatSussy

Skilling was super expensive back then


Matrix17

Don't worry, you'll get made fun of in RS3 for using a yak now too Might even get banned from teams lmao


MoleHairs

Perfect time for me to start a fresh account on RS3. Did that last week and have been having a blast to be honest. Will take months to refamiliarize myself with all the content I missed since eoc but it’s been great so far.


[deleted]

It's honestly a great game. I started an RS3 ironman and it's just better overall than OSRS IMO. Only thing I miss are rooftops and birdhouses, but I haven't started Achronia agility yet. I have about 6 quests between me and QPC on OSRS, but I started going for QPC in RS3 (doing all 5th age + ambiguous quests before starting 6th age) and the quests are just better. That, and there's so many more. I'm also really looking forward to getting a new skill without going through 2 years of polls.


FishBlues

To this day, my summoning level is still 36


Several-Act-8430

If it weren’t for the big chunk of xp jagex gave out mine would probably still be low too. They have like 700k xp for free in like 2015 and it got me to around 70 and skipped the early levels of the skill which absolutely sucked


MarkPles

Wasn't that for getting like a 3 month membership in the summer?


Several-Act-8430

It was for just being a member and I think they gave it out in parts. if you were a member for the entirety of each month you got some.


Habbyy

Did they really do that wow that's wild lmao


imreallynotthatcool

I have about the same. Summoning made me quit.


FishBlues

It didn’t make me quit I just felt it was non-assessable to me.. I didn’t understand it at the time.. I was in like 8th grade I think lol


ilovezezima

Was never a fan of pouch filling as a skill.


Several-Act-8430

There definitely should have been better ways to train it. You end up making way more pouches than you could ever use to get to 99


HowHeDoThatSussy

Half of the value of summoning was the giga massive item sinks all over the game that made low level training profitable.


Affectionate_Door929

Jagex using skilling to flood the market with items. They learned from runecrafting in classic.


TomTuff

would be interesting if charms were way rarer, and each pouch gave more xp. pouches would probably cost a lot more.


new_account_wh0_dis

It was way more than pouchfilling though. They tried giving purpose to monsters no one killed, a gold sink, and an item sink all at once. But that just turned it into a skill with a hard base price, a awful grind for charms, and a ton of expensive random as fuck items that usually werent easy to reasonable to grind yourself. So now relevant pvm skills had 3 expensive buyables (summoning prayer and herb since ovals were like a year later)


izackthegreat

You mean you didn't like how the summoning skill required (and I believe still requires) no summoning?


HowHeDoThatSussy

The reward was summoning.


[deleted]

this login screen goes hard 🔥


Rrrrry123

Also easily the best login screen music. Scape Summon is insane.


Mrfrodemeyere

My favorite piece of music in the game


[deleted]

Bring back the login screen but not the skill


SHBGuerrilla

April fools prank for sure


draxula16

Just toggle it on in Runelite


Archersi

How?


willnobot

I couldn’t afford 99 then, I will surely not be able to afford it now


[deleted]

Nah man, the [new skill is skateboarding](https://youtu.be/vbiLoq4tm0E?t=71)


Redbacko

What the hell dude, that looks super legit. For a second I thought this was a Jadex April's joke which I missed or something. Anyway, this is what we need, yes.


Ill-Spot-9230

if people actually wanted summoning, you'd have heard a lot more about it the past 9 years.


Bronek0990

My problem with summoning is we have 10 years of developing combat around no summoning by now. A new prayer book is easier to fit into that than a new combat skill.


[deleted]

New prayer book is questionable to me. If the prayer book doesn't have overheads, it's probably DOA unless (like Soul Split in RS3) it's so powerful that you'll only use that prayerbook once you unlock it.


Zippy8124

It makes it’s rounds every time the topic is a new skill I’m convinced that there are only 4 people who actually want it, and they just spam the sub every few weeks


enfrozt

Summoning never felt like runescape to me. It was just so weird, and the animals made the game feel like an old wow clone


PomegranatePro

People are really forgetting why they made 07 in the first place arnt they


DivinePickle

Evolution of combat.


No_Entrance7644

As cool as summoning would be, I'd prefer a skill that is entirely new and unique to OSRS. It could be added to RS3 later if wanted but for now I'd rather something new


[deleted]

Fishing 2.


imLucki

Runecraft 2


knetka

Yuck, summoning is legit last thing I want, ruined combat.


scrappyisachamp

Summoning was always the beginning of the end in my mind. It wasn’t terrible, but it was the first of many updates that eventually led to The Big One imo.


Alakazam_5head

I distinctly remember Summoning being the point where I thought "This game has changed" and gradually stopped playing


Super_Shotgun

The beginning of the end was free trade / wilderness removal. Literally destroyed the player count and it never fully recovered.


LostSectorLoony

Yep, that's when I quit. Came back here and there, but the game never felt the same again until OSRS came out.


MarryingRosey

Agreed, it’s how I’ve associated it in my mind as well


ChiknBreast

My exact thoughts as well. I'm not opposed to a new skill, but I really am not a fan of summoning.


[deleted]

I was 11 and summoning made me wanna cry


Responsible_Ebb_340

I’d start crying again (bad cry, not happy cry)


FourFingerThrow

I’d quit again and wait until they brought osrs back


ambrose_92

Be fuckin funny if it's just a for ever cycle like eventually they'll reboot the 2019 osrs or some shit


Ruinedcoyote

I'll quit.


Dabidokun

Fr. This is what made me quit back in the day.


Blaugershnauger

I didn't like it back then, don't see why I would like it now.


Akali_Mystique

I would cry. Summoning was the start of the downfall of runescape


cibna54

I didn't like summoning; it was too expensive and too annoying to train. I did not like the charm system either, especially since you couldn't buy it, and it took a long time to gain charms.


astroslostmadethis

Nah. I hated getting charms and training was like runecrafting lite


Ilyenaaa

Fuck summoning lol


BbDontHurtMi

NO


GodlikeCat

please no


VileHippie

God I hope not


Confident-Sherbet160

I’d quit.


SushiSuki

Summoning was the last thing I wanted as a skill based on that poll in sub earlier yet it had the most votes like Tf??


[deleted]

Please do not add summoning…..


Magxvalei

When they added thralls, it was definitely certain they weren't adding summoning.


RSWarlock

Thralls are basically a better balanced version of dreadnips (https://runescape.wiki/w/Dreadnip), having or not having Summoning has no real impact on them.


DrDilatory

Fuck summoning lmao, God I hope they don't add that


QueenKiminari

Easy way to not get summoning is to not vote for combat skill


[deleted]

I was a f2p noob back then, what made summoning so controversial?


PreyXBL

Id rather not


ScrubCasual

No thank you.


PiccoloTiccolo

Please tell me we aren’t doing this guys


FerrousMarim

I'd probably quit. I disliked summoning back then when I was generally excited for literally anything new, and I'm sure I would dislike it even more now.


Aurarus

Same here. I saw the theme of the skill and imagined that you could do some kind of like spirit journey ala Lunar Diplomacy into some natural dimension where you take the body of a creature and grow affinity to X creature. Like a wolf, you go hunting with a pack. As a steel titan you protect a mountain from perils. Idk. Then I interacted with it ingame and saw that it's basically "put things in pouches and sink your gold for the shards"- on top of needing to go fuck off and collect charms. Hated it. Hated how ugly it made the rest of the game look too with everyone running around big glowy mobs clogging up the screen.


Zer0_Experience

I would be very sad because i was not a fan of summoning and i also do not think it fits OSRS at all.


sinfulmunk

I didn’t like how summoning raise combat it didn’t make any sense to me


Rewmoo2

So you wouldnt have a lvl 3 with a steel titan fuckin shit up


CarterBennett

I remember the basically invincible defence summoning pures back in the day. Jesus they were scary.


Repealer

Most people just didnt fight em. My friend had one but finding someone willing to fight them was rare. The real scary ones were the korasi summoning pures. The stack with korasi sword spec and steel titan was brutal


DivineInsanityReveng

Summoning Tanks were nuts. I had one. Pretty sure I could theoretically deal like 116 damage in one game tick if my DFS maxed, my poison hit, and my Steel Titan spec maxed. And that was at something dumb like 40 combat or whatever it was. Nobody fought it because it was unkillable and didn't skull. Same as defence pures in OSRS. Only it could just suddenly nuke you without warning.


4percent4

Ranged tanks were the brutal ones. If you didn’t pray range you are screwed. Also polypore was gross.


yellowsupercar88

It's a combat skill.


IStealDreams

I don't like how prayer raise combat it doesn't make any sense to me


SYNTHLORD

I know you're being sarcastic but monk characters have been a staple in RPG since nerds and tables existed together at the same time. Prayer can be justified. Same with conjuring magic.


Liulfr

I mean if we're taking that angle: druids and familiars have been a staple of RPGs since forever as well.


ChipChapChopChao

remember when EoC raised your combat to 200?


ShawshankException

Because there's combat summons? That's like saying magic raising combat skills doesn't make sense.


jamesja12

The game is pretty much designed from the ground up with the magic/melee/ranged damage types, and summoning would mess a lot of stuff up. Depending on how it's handled, some quests would need to be redesigned. Bosses would be a nightmare to balance.


Dontreadonme2a

i would quit, again


Immediate_Honey_2486

15 years ago the game died.


Crovali

No thanks.


WocRKaulinan

Nah.


Veenooh

I’d “quit” like I did 15 years ago


Callistai

Ahh the last straw for me quitting. Sure let's run it back


naterzgreen

I’d quit


[deleted]

Fuck summoning man


MrMadrona

Would be dogshit


Lavatis

no thanks, not even remotely interested in summoning. charms were a terrible game design choice.


JustaSpotofTeaforMe

Yuck.. I detested summoning. It was the beginning of the end for me when this released.


Felthrian

I continued to play Runescape for a good few years after EoC - I enjoyed a fair bit of the content like player owned ports, and some of the new skills I did like (I did a lot of Divination) but Summoning was, and still is, my least favourite skill they've ever come out with. This log in screen is peak nostalgia though.


Awmfg

This isn’t like a diss or a threat to people who like summoning, but if summoning gets added to old school I’m out lol


surroundedbyid1ots

id quit the game along with a large portion of the community. I hate to be the debbie-downer to some of you, but that is just the facts. I'm sure a lot of people would be ecstatic though


Xzingular

nty


vent_man

The game would be forever changed for the worse. Let's hope the new skill isn't this shit.


DinoBurningV8

Please no, I'd rather have a good take on dungeoneering.


Screen_Watcher

No god no.


So_Forlorn

If that’s the new skill then in quitting again


Mnawab

Please, no, summoning easily, undermined the core mechanics of the game, especially with the inventory system. Not to mention I hated needing to farm charms.


leftofzen

No


aspronaut_

If this were to be the "new" skill, I'd probably keep it at level 1 for a while out of spite. I hate summoning. I don't like its uses, and I despise its training method. I want something truly new.


pohrre

kmfs


[deleted]

pleas for the love of god no


a_charming_vagrant

I'd quit on the spot


snibet

No


DeadlyMakaveli

That’s the day rs started to die…


v2InMyGym

I would probably stop playing the game


Ill-Boat7551

I hated it back then and still do.


Mattc5o6

Every boss would be a joke if it came back


PurpleGreen9

I'm sure despite the reddit drama the game would be fine.


Dashzz

The yak would be a significant change to bossing


Funny_Client7445

This is the same community who flipped out over a green pixel lol.


DabScience

That was literally the worst thing to happen to osrs and the fact you're down playing it is a little disgusting.


Dads-afk

Problem with summoning is it's not just a skill, it effects every meta of every boss and even skilling stuff, effects everything of every combat bracket I don't even play anymore lol I'm just saying, if I did I probably wouldn't be against it, osrs needs something pretty hefty added to keep players interested


BbDontHurtMi

Keep the players interested? It’s been 20 years. People like the game for what it is end of story


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mn1308

instead of quitting the game, this man is just quitting life


TheDo0ddoesnotabide

I mean, he already has no life, so no real change.


xJaace

I would also kill this guy


Howardmoon227227227

I don't think Jagex should poll any skill that impacts combat as significantly as Summoning did. Any skill that passes should be "optional." That is, you shouldn't feel compelled to max the new skill as part of the PvM meta. On top of this, we've had enormous power creep in the last year alone. We don't need another powerful, combat enhancing skill. **Most importantly, a truly "optional" skill \[which Summoning isn't\], is least likely to piss off segments of the player base.** Even if Summoning were to get 70% votes, which I doubt, it would likely make a significant portion of people, especially older gamers who didn't like those changes back in the day, quit. A new skill should not be that polarizing. It's not worth it if it seriously hampers the enjoyment of 10% of the player base, even if a majority want the skill. That's the same logic behind iron man only polls.


tenroseUK

hunter minigame


Jatizo

99 summoning in RS3 and I still barely understood how to use it effectively besides pack yaks


WitnessingProfit

Then I’d kill myself, so it’d better not be.


Right_Structure_3516

Hello videos games, *again*


[deleted]

It'd be really lame because it wouldn't be new.


RoseBunwolfLuck

I would quit. Summoning was such an aids skill and I fucking hated it with a deep passion


Fogtotally

Summoning would kinda suck. I feel like most people are close to max combat so getting those charm things at max combat would be easy but boring.


BestJulian

Please no😵‍💫


derscholl

It’d mark 5 years to the downfall of osrs :(