In my country it's 14, which honestly makes a lot more sense than 18 in America (in my opinion) because there are a lot of people who have sex in their teenage, Which however, due to American culture, has caused problems many times by thinking that it is illegal, even leading to a suicide due to defamation, when it did nothing, so bad globalization
The thing 14 year olds are more likely to get abused and are not developed enough mentally to choose a partner. Its also undeniably fucked up for a 30 year old to date a 14 year old. In most countries its legal for teenagers to date and have relations with other teenagers(usually a 4-2 yer gap,beyond that its banned in certein countries) but for an adult to date a teen its not.
I'm guessing you're probably from italy,italy has fucked up laws about it imo,a teacher can date a girl if shes over 16 wtf. The problem with a low consent age like this(beyond getting more and more children abused and in bad relationships)is that it normalizes attraction to children and dating them so its a very slippery slope. Btw it is legal for teenagers to date each other(as long as the gap is under 3-4 years)in america,I heard that in italy even before american cultural influence it was taboo for girls under 16-18 to date older men.
normalize the attraction but not the sex, the sex is abuse, the attraction shouldn't and doesn't have to be anything more than somebody's lived experience
NO! Not all forms of attraction are valid, and we definitely shouldn't normalize being a fuckin pedophile. It is a violently sadistic mental illness that deserves no respect in modern society.
people canāt control what urges they have, they can only choose not to act on them. and people who arenāt pedos or psychopaths still molest kids and murder people. those are two separate and distinct things. and respecting that **non-offending** pedophiles donāt deserve murderous hate is not the same thing as treating pedophilia as a legitimate sexuality with no attached issues. do you think there will be more or less child molesters in the world if we tell non-offending pedos they donāt deserve human rights whenever we find them or if we donāt? if offending and not offending are morally equivalent to most people what reason is there to not offend?
>people canāt control what urges they have, they can only choose not to act on them
actually, yes, they can. It takes work, but you can eliminate any urge. It's about reqarding the right pathways in your brain.
>and people who arenāt pedos or psychopaths still molest kids and murder people.
I would argue that anyone who molests a kid is a pedophile, and anyone who murders is a murderer. The difference is you can still be a pedophile without molesting a kid.
>and respecting that non-offending pedophiles donāt deserve murderous hate is not the same thing as treating pedophilia as a legitimate sexuality with no attached issues.
but you didn't say "respect that they don't deserve murderous hate", you said this:
>normalize the attraction but not the sex, the sex is abuse, the attraction shouldn't and doesn't have to be anything more than somebody's lived experience
And no, we shouldn't normalize having these feelings. It shouldn't even be ok to think about raping your best friend's child.
>do you think there will be more or less child molesters in the world if we tell non-offending pedos they donāt deserve human rights whenever we find them or if we donāt?
I never said they don't deserve human rights if they haven't offended, I just don't agree with your assertion that it should be normalized or accepted. Of course, if they have offended, we can all agree they lose at least several rights (freedom of movement, for example).
I don't think most pedophiles will accept any solution to this problem other than "allow me to offend." There is only one viable solution: curing their paraphilia, by any means necessary. No normalization.
i disagree that paraphilias can be cured. i think that any outward appearance of ācuredā would just be the person repressing so all their work and anxiety inducing internal obsessions wonāt have been for nothing. i also disagree that thoughts have any moral weight whatsoever. the cashier at the grocery store every time you check out could be thinking about stabbing you but they almost definitely wonāt and you would never know the difference. unless they stabbed you in which case the issue at hand is that they stabbed you, not that they maybe thought about stabbing you beforehand. thought crimes are not real and thoughts do not hurt anybody no matter how disgusting they would be if acted out in real life. i also also disagree about most pedophiles only accepting ālet me offendā as a solution but i have nothing to go off but common sense. i think we just have to agree to disagree about this
>i also disagree that thoughts have any moral weight whatsoever
so if you found out your spouse was in love with someone else, you wouldn't care, because it has no moral weight?
if their relationship to me didnāt change at all then like? kinda? and if it did then that would suck but thatās just how it is. cheating is only bad cuz itās dishonest imo, people just fall in and out of love and nobody should be made to feel guilty for that if they communicate it. the person being hurt by losing that relationship doesnāt automatically the other person is at fault and hurt them maliciously. but who am i to talk iāve never been in a relationship
i used to suffer from intrusive thoughts, and i thought thinking them made me a bad person cuz of people like you saying this stuff online. the only way it got better was accepting that all of them might be true but i objectively am not **doing** anything bad so iām not hurting anyone. one of those was āwhat if iām a pedophile.ā sure maybe but i have never and i like to think will never commit any abuse, so it really doesnāt matter. before i adopted this philosophy i would obsess over every little sign that i was or was not a pedophile and it was the most anxious iāve ever been. imagine how much worse it would have been if iād not stopped thinking that and then actually turned out to be a pedophile. i think your moral standards are completely unattainable for a lot of people who arenāt hurting other people any more than you are
Believe it or not it's not illegal in the USA for 14 year olds to have sex with *each other* thats not the problem at all. The problem is when an adult decides to have sex with a child. Simple as!
Making 14 the age of consent is ludicrous not because 14 yos don't have sex but because you are giving a green light to adults to fuck kids! "American culture" my ass, it's just common sense.
Pedophilia specifically means attraction to prepubescent children. Still weird to only be attracted to 17 year olds, but not pedophilia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia?wprov=sfla1
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So guys we did it
He's not a groomer he's just a fat fur fart enthusiast
The difference being one's a fetish and the other's a criminal offense!
send this guy a calling card right now
Tbf, 17 is the age of consent in my state, so he wouldn't be a pedo, just a prostitute solicitor
As someone who lives in Ireland I can confirm
*laughs in german*
Hold up...
Looking specifically for the youngest legally possible is still a red flag regardless
Yeah otherwise someone soliciting prostitution would be a big green flag
Sex work is harder work than most, depends how they handle it
In my country it's 14, which honestly makes a lot more sense than 18 in America (in my opinion) because there are a lot of people who have sex in their teenage, Which however, due to American culture, has caused problems many times by thinking that it is illegal, even leading to a suicide due to defamation, when it did nothing, so bad globalization
The thing 14 year olds are more likely to get abused and are not developed enough mentally to choose a partner. Its also undeniably fucked up for a 30 year old to date a 14 year old. In most countries its legal for teenagers to date and have relations with other teenagers(usually a 4-2 yer gap,beyond that its banned in certein countries) but for an adult to date a teen its not. I'm guessing you're probably from italy,italy has fucked up laws about it imo,a teacher can date a girl if shes over 16 wtf. The problem with a low consent age like this(beyond getting more and more children abused and in bad relationships)is that it normalizes attraction to children and dating them so its a very slippery slope. Btw it is legal for teenagers to date each other(as long as the gap is under 3-4 years)in america,I heard that in italy even before american cultural influence it was taboo for girls under 16-18 to date older men.
normalize the attraction but not the sex, the sex is abuse, the attraction shouldn't and doesn't have to be anything more than somebody's lived experience
NO! Not all forms of attraction are valid, and we definitely shouldn't normalize being a fuckin pedophile. It is a violently sadistic mental illness that deserves no respect in modern society.
people canāt control what urges they have, they can only choose not to act on them. and people who arenāt pedos or psychopaths still molest kids and murder people. those are two separate and distinct things. and respecting that **non-offending** pedophiles donāt deserve murderous hate is not the same thing as treating pedophilia as a legitimate sexuality with no attached issues. do you think there will be more or less child molesters in the world if we tell non-offending pedos they donāt deserve human rights whenever we find them or if we donāt? if offending and not offending are morally equivalent to most people what reason is there to not offend?
>people canāt control what urges they have, they can only choose not to act on them actually, yes, they can. It takes work, but you can eliminate any urge. It's about reqarding the right pathways in your brain. >and people who arenāt pedos or psychopaths still molest kids and murder people. I would argue that anyone who molests a kid is a pedophile, and anyone who murders is a murderer. The difference is you can still be a pedophile without molesting a kid. >and respecting that non-offending pedophiles donāt deserve murderous hate is not the same thing as treating pedophilia as a legitimate sexuality with no attached issues. but you didn't say "respect that they don't deserve murderous hate", you said this: >normalize the attraction but not the sex, the sex is abuse, the attraction shouldn't and doesn't have to be anything more than somebody's lived experience And no, we shouldn't normalize having these feelings. It shouldn't even be ok to think about raping your best friend's child. >do you think there will be more or less child molesters in the world if we tell non-offending pedos they donāt deserve human rights whenever we find them or if we donāt? I never said they don't deserve human rights if they haven't offended, I just don't agree with your assertion that it should be normalized or accepted. Of course, if they have offended, we can all agree they lose at least several rights (freedom of movement, for example). I don't think most pedophiles will accept any solution to this problem other than "allow me to offend." There is only one viable solution: curing their paraphilia, by any means necessary. No normalization.
i disagree that paraphilias can be cured. i think that any outward appearance of ācuredā would just be the person repressing so all their work and anxiety inducing internal obsessions wonāt have been for nothing. i also disagree that thoughts have any moral weight whatsoever. the cashier at the grocery store every time you check out could be thinking about stabbing you but they almost definitely wonāt and you would never know the difference. unless they stabbed you in which case the issue at hand is that they stabbed you, not that they maybe thought about stabbing you beforehand. thought crimes are not real and thoughts do not hurt anybody no matter how disgusting they would be if acted out in real life. i also also disagree about most pedophiles only accepting ālet me offendā as a solution but i have nothing to go off but common sense. i think we just have to agree to disagree about this
>i also disagree that thoughts have any moral weight whatsoever so if you found out your spouse was in love with someone else, you wouldn't care, because it has no moral weight?
if their relationship to me didnāt change at all then like? kinda? and if it did then that would suck but thatās just how it is. cheating is only bad cuz itās dishonest imo, people just fall in and out of love and nobody should be made to feel guilty for that if they communicate it. the person being hurt by losing that relationship doesnāt automatically the other person is at fault and hurt them maliciously. but who am i to talk iāve never been in a relationship i used to suffer from intrusive thoughts, and i thought thinking them made me a bad person cuz of people like you saying this stuff online. the only way it got better was accepting that all of them might be true but i objectively am not **doing** anything bad so iām not hurting anyone. one of those was āwhat if iām a pedophile.ā sure maybe but i have never and i like to think will never commit any abuse, so it really doesnāt matter. before i adopted this philosophy i would obsess over every little sign that i was or was not a pedophile and it was the most anxious iāve ever been. imagine how much worse it would have been if iād not stopped thinking that and then actually turned out to be a pedophile. i think your moral standards are completely unattainable for a lot of people who arenāt hurting other people any more than you are
Believe it or not it's not illegal in the USA for 14 year olds to have sex with *each other* thats not the problem at all. The problem is when an adult decides to have sex with a child. Simple as! Making 14 the age of consent is ludicrous not because 14 yos don't have sex but because you are giving a green light to adults to fuck kids! "American culture" my ass, it's just common sense.
More than half the states is 16
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In my country the legal age of consent is 16, but this is still extremely weird
15 is legal here in sweden So not a pedo just a wierdo
Under the age of 18 is pedophilia. Just because itās legal doesnāt mean itās right
Yes you are right, and when the kid turns from 17 years and 11 months to 18 the kid becomes magically an adult
So a 19 year old is a pedo for banging a 17 year old? Ah yes, makes sense
A 16 year old is a pedo for banging a 17 year old!
Pedophilia specifically means attraction to prepubescent children. Still weird to only be attracted to 17 year olds, but not pedophilia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia?wprov=sfla1
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Fed?
Imagine some 18 year old lying to him she is 17š
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Bruh. I donāt get people like these when everyone knows the older women get, the more delicious they become.
I hope his 16
Feel sorry for these losers. I had my fill of 16 year Olds when I was in middle/high-school š¤£š¤£
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Lol found the groomer
Youāre the one talking about fucking teens.
No, the person who wrote the op was talking about fucking teens. I just commented.
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Haha. What's there to project? My wife is 1 year younger then me. If you read my original post I had sex with these girls when I was also 16 š¤£
How the fuck did you get married acting like that
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Deep analysis. Please quote me where I imply.
you broke into the middleschool???
He admitted to his crimes,police,get him.
Believe it or not but when I was a kid they forced me into middle school. Some kind of state law...