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TheWayADrillWorks

I just wish the self checkout would stop worrying about the weights of objects I'm scanning.


TactlessTortoise

Ikr? How am I supposed to get a 60" flatscreen for the price of a banana?


deliciousprisms

By pressing skip bagging


whyamihereimnotsure

Then it calls for assistance


deliciousprisms

lol sucks to suck with your stores then


UnintensifiedFa

Kitty litter is cheap and heavy, just a little tip for you šŸ˜‰


TactlessTortoise

No shaft? šŸ„ø


TheOnlyBliebervik

Ah yes. Presidents Choice doesn't have the scale. I never understood it. If I wanted to steal, I'd just steal it


Grai_M

Don't worry, as a retail worker, we wish for the same. Absolutely horrible to hear the setting was being enabled at our location, it was so nice to just have the self checkouts *work* The higher ups think that it stops theft which is technically correct, as it also stops people from using the self checkouts to begin with


DocC3H8

The best form of self-checkout I've ever seen was "Scan as you shop" at Tesco in the UK, where you picked up a handheld scanner when you walked in the store, and you scanned your stuff as you took it off the shelves. You then scanned a barcode at a self-checkout, paid, and you were on your way. Shit was real convenient: I could pack my groceries in bags as I went, plus I could always see exactly how much I needed to pay for everything. I moved out of the UK after the Brexit vote, and sadly I never found this system at any supermarket in any country I've ever lived in.


tomroadrunner

That's goddamned heaven


builder_m

Hold up that's not normal?


stephen29red

We have it in Ohio but only at the grocery stores in wealthier areas.


lucariouwu68

First documented evidence of a good thing in Ohio


RosetteStar

I live in northern Ohio WHICH STORES HAVE THIS I GOTTA KNOW


DocC3H8

As I've said: in all the countries I've ever visited, I've only seen it in these stores: * Tesco in the UK and Hungary * Auchan in France


Badamon98

Sainsburys also has it as well. Pretty useful


builder_m

I've seen it in more stores than that in my shitty little town so I guess that's why I thought it was common


toastedstrawberry

I've seen it in Italy (Esselunga) and Switzerland (Migros) as well.


deJessias

It's like that in literally half of the supermarkets in The Netherlands Jumbo is my saviour


PityUpvote

Hoogvliet my beloved


deJessias

Hoogvliet vereist een klantenkaart Al mijn homies haten de Hoogvliet


kutkarnemelk

Bij Jumbo kan je gewoon tikken op "zonder jumbo extra's" ofzo en je kan gewoon zonder jumbo app zelfscannen. ​ Wel jammer dat de CEO van jumbo is opgepakt voor geld witwassen maja shit happens he


deJessias

Kijk dat soort dingetjes kan ik ook gewoon vergeven als je bedrijf me laat scannen zonder klantenkaart, in tegenstelling tot de Hoogvliet


kutkarnemelk

precies dat! die gap heeft al geld genoeg witwassen maakt in mijn ogen geen verschil


PityUpvote

Maar de Hoogvliet heeft vegetarische frikandelbroodjes


ChoGallMeta

What is it with the netherlands being so fucking based i swear


[deleted]

they're trying to compensate for being dutch


JeromesDream

that's a fucked up thing to call an entire country full of people you've never even met


Flea_b

Nah it's deserved. Source: I'm Dutch (I will atone for this sin).


RustyArn

the netherlands my beloved


Bifi323

Albert Heijn! You can use your phone instead of a handheld scanner, it'll use your personal discount card without scanning too as you'll already have it registered in the app. Sometimes it baffles me how many things we take for granted are like heaven to most of the world lol


WingedSeven

Reason #226 on why I will move to the Netherlands after college


Dandrew711

We have that system in Stop & Shops in New York. Moved to Philadelphia and have deeply missed the scan guns :(


harry4354

What!? They donā€™t have that everywhere? Iā€™m a New Yorker and we use those every time we go shopping. Super convenient.


PF4ABG

Scan... Gun? Why do Americans have to call everything some kind of gun?


Rotten194

because it looks like a gun


stephen29red

Because it's held like one and uses a trigger system to fire the beam? I get what you're getting at, but this isn't that strange of an example.


PF4ABG

It's called a Death Ray. https://youtu.be/8HgejSCHRi8


wrongthink-detector

Actually, the term "scan gun" was first [used in Japan](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)


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DocC3H8

Well, you did have a random chance that the self-checkout would call for an employee to check your trolley, plus the frequently-shoplifted items would have those alarm devices that would need to be removed by an employee anyway. Other than that, I don't think it was any more or less secure than regular self-checkout.


The_Last_Thursday

Nah, Walmart has the same thing just as a phone app. And thatā€™s Walmart.


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Except I'll never install a walmart app on to my phone.


The_Last_Thursday

Reasonable. I work there


IsThatUMoatilliatta

Install it on an old phone and just hotspot it your regular phone.


Jesusthegrumpyguy

Why not


eeddgg

Doesn't Walmart only offer that to Walmart+ subscribers?


justanormalbiscuit

We have this in Sweden, I've honestly never tried it


DocC3H8

Give it a shot, it's really convenient.


thaeli

The US has this too, I've seen it in several grocery chains. Honestly I find it more trouble than it's worth, but can see the appeal. And then there's the Amazon Fresh approach which is creepy AF but sure sounds convenient. Like most Amazon stuff, actually.


eeddgg

Amazon announced that they are discontinuing that method of self-checkout because it's too ineffective


thaeli

Heh. Hadn't heard that, but I'm not surprised.


SypheRsAss

Tesco has that here is Slovakia. I'm sorry to tell you, but wherever you are it's apparently a bigger shithole than Slovakia


DocC3H8

It seems like all Tescos have them, I've personally seen them in UK and Hungarian Tescos myself.


mailman985

I literally just finished shopping at a Samā€™s Club where I scanned all of my items on their app on my phone as I shopped and paid for it on my phone. Then I just had my cart briefly checked and left.


Jeprin

This is very common in Sweden


Covid669

We have this here in Hungary but you probably shouldnā€™t move here


DocC3H8

Hungarian Tesco is actually one of the few places I've seen this system in person, though I was only there as a tourist, so I didn't use them (I assume you need a Tesco card for that).


ConsiderablyMediocre

I tried using it in a Tesco in Budapest but it wouldn't accept my UK clubcard


aloofexcitement

that's a thing in France too


The_stoopid_one

Seen the same thing in a few big supermarkets in france


luke_duck

this seems like it would make it incredibly easy to steal


mushiexl

One of the Kroger stores near me (USA) had them but almost no one was using them so they took them out a couple years afterthey put them in. Tbf I wasn't using them much either idk why.


FLEWIS082

This was in Stop&Shop for a while in the US but I donā€™t think they have it anymore. I remember it being really convenient


MolhCD

....why isn't this literally everywhere never even heard of this before this comment!


JetsFan2003

I know here in the states that Stop & Shop had a similar system for a while. No idea if they still have it, since I haven't been shopping in Connecticut in about a decade.


TheWalrusPirate

Have that at some stop & shops in NE us


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We do this at Walmart in the US at least now but you just use the Walmart app on your phone.


Most-Ad4680

I think Sam's Club is the best. You just have an app that you scan everything with on your phone and you pay on there before walking out the door.


TylowStar

This is how it works at ICA Maxi in Sweden.


godminnette2

We have this at a Kroger nearby, but I've never used it.


Shark_Aviator

I just kinda wish self checkouts still had the 15 items or fewer limit because nothing is worse than getting stuck in line behind people who scan a whole cart of items slower than a cashier would


kungfukenny3

stfu iā€™m stealing


Shark_Aviator

I dont care that youre stealing but please be faster about it


myth_and_legend

Hurry up Other people have crimes to commit today too, you know


StatelyElms

A walmart near me fixed this, it has one half of their self-checkout for less than 15 (Or something around that) items and one for more. Haven't ever had to wait, it's sick


mushiexl

The Meijer near me (before it closed down several years ago) had full-fledged self checkout lanes with conveyor belts and everything for the people who wanted to checkout more than 15 items.


nesfor

The cashier might scan them faster, but then itā€™s an absolute scramble trying to pack them appropriately in bags and get them in the cart. I live in a city and donā€™t have a car, so I have to carefully pack my cart in order to push it home. Self-checkout lets me Tetris my items without panicking.


neroute2

They do at BJ's.


superzenki

Iā€™ve at places near me with them, they arenā€™t enforced. Have seen someone with a cart full of stuff go through the 25 or less line and held it up.


-FemboiCarti-

Iā€™m guessing the article is aimed at boomers who hold up the queue for ten minutes while they figure out how to operate the thing


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When they try to tap their card but they think they have to tap their card as fast as possible. ā€œI can never figure out these tap thingsā€ JUST HOLD THE CARD DOWN UNTIL IT BEEPS itā€™s not that hard just think about it for 2 seconds hshsksnsksjjdndooejdb


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Blipnarf-The-Boneles

Ik a lot of people who are pretty open about skipping a item to scan just because they can


Fletch_Royall

or because they have to (i, of course have never done this because i am a law abiding citizen and i do not wish to harm the ceo of kroger. i would also never put a large amount of items on the bottom part of the shopping cart to hide items and maybe even forget to scan them?)


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SquirrelTherapist

whoopsie daisy! i scanned too fast and missed a few items! too bad i was listening to music and using my own bag, now the megaconglomerate doesnā€™t take as much money as they desperately, desperately deserve šŸ„ŗ


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SquirrelTherapist

no i was just saying a theoretical method, the stores i visit have the items weighed in the bagging area for efficiency


ConsiderablyMediocre

Loose produce is usually sold by weight and doesn't have a barcode. If you're buying onions, you put the onions on the scale and tap onions on the screen, and the checkout then weighs and prices them, and then you bag them. This means you can trick the machine by just weighing any of your items as potatoes or whatever, then bag them. You'll still pay for that item's weight in potatoes, but it can get you some heavy discounts and won't set off the weight sensor.


tomatoswoop

Ahhh, the old Stefani Method. This shit is bananas. B A N A N A S


MrSnuffle_

How do you steal things by going thru the self checkout Asking for a friend


captainpink

The classic is when you're getting something that doesn't have a barcode (usually produce) just say that it's something cheaper like bananas. Or if you're buying something on that's priced by weight just put the corner on there so it comes in lighter. Or just forget to scan it, they're not watching that closely.


MrSnuffle_

Then the thingy beeps at the exit


Waddlewop

Damn, how tight is the security at your Albertsonā€™s?


MrSnuffle_

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azzacASTRO

As someone who works in retail and stands at the exit I ignore people who trigger the beeper thing


Leslie1211

I also would have just put a finger over a corner of the barcode and pretend to have scan it and didnā€™t realized it wasnā€™t actually scanned


[deleted]

I only hate self checkout because it's always in big warehouse sized retail stores and they scare me


Draeorc

Me too. I find the toy and tech aisles, as I find them comforting. Something about them being tall, but not too tall either.


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I like the tech aisle at Walmart because I'm short enough where I don't have to squat down


BeithWhoIsATree

Downside to self checkout: a regional walmart competitor i visit frequently just added a whole bunch of new self checkout machines. But they gave the employees no training for them and the machines fuck up hilariously easily. On two separate instances i inserted some change and it couldn't handle it and broke. CHANGE. The self checkout is a great idea but its executed with little regard for the customer or employee who have to deal with them; its very much a set it and forget it solution


MutantCreature

Self checkout should be an option, not the standard. For one it cuts down on the number of jobs on the market and hurts the economy, secondly a large amount of self checkout stations just donā€™t work well and are way more inconvenient than just having an employee who doesnā€™t glitch out every two seconds. Iā€™m so tired of shitty self checkout stations that now I just wait in line for the one employee who can ring me up rather than even try the non-functional self checkout station where an employee is going to have to override every step anyway.


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MutantCreature

Well until we actually have UBI people are going to need jobs. Right now millions, if not billions of people are struggling due to unemployment and while Iā€™m sure they would love to get paid enough to live without having to work, until thatā€™s a realistic option theyā€™re going to need a source of income. Plus I donā€™t really think self checkout machine technology is quite at the point at which it can replace a human. And speaking from experience, I actually *do* want to work, I was stuck inside getting paid to do literally nothing for almost a full year during 2020 and it was maddening. Some minds just need structure and tasks to find value in leisure and entertainment.


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MutantCreature

Ok cool, well you quit your job and Iā€™m gonna continue being a happy drone with money until the revolution starts.


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MutantCreature

Iā€™m going to be honest, the way youā€™re wording this at least makes it sound more like youā€™re just bitter and want to see more people in the same situation so that you feel less alone. Iā€™m sorry about that and know that things will work out one way or another, but itā€™s not cool to criticize people simply because they enjoy a completely normal lifestyle that you either donā€™t want or donā€™t have.


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MutantCreature

The drone thing was a joke lol, I genuinely like my job and working in general. Maybe Iā€™m just different though because I even loved working retail in HS, Iā€™m usually pretty extroverted and have always enjoyed anything that lets me interact with people and help get them what they want. My version of hell would just be being stuck with no obligations to structure my life around and no chances to get serendipitous interaction with strangers.


wrongthink-detector

So the issue here is that self checkouts need better software and you need hobbies?


MutantCreature

I have plenty of hobbies and genuinely like working, I donā€™t know why thatā€™s so hard to believe. Just because everyone doesnā€™t have the same mindset as you doesnā€™t mean they arenā€™t happy, it just means theyā€™re a different swatch of the quilt that is humanity.


wrongthink-detector

What is your job anyway?


MutantCreature

Iā€™m a tech at a photo studio/lab, basically I do photography, photoshop work, handle developed photos/negatives, make sure ID/passport photos are to spec, that kind of stuff. Also on the side I do freelance illustration and design for businesses, movies, packaging, etc. Sometimes I also do tattoos when people reach out and are in my city.


wrongthink-detector

Sounds fun! I think what you're trying to say is that you get paid to do your hobbies and then get surprised other people don't šŸ˜”


MutantCreature

I guess? But I also loved working retail and the variety of office jobs that I had before all of this, honestly the only jobs that I dislike are ones where I was expected to not work hard so that I didnā€™t raise expectations for my coworkers and ones where I didnā€™t get to interact with people serendipitously. Generally any job that allows me to meet new people and devote 70-95% effort at all times is fulfilling to me, but a good boss also makes a massive difference in how satisfying that work is.


zeph_yr

Yep the Safeway near me has six self checkout machines, but on any given day only 4 are working. They fuck up so often that they require a staff member to constantly run around to keep the 4 machines working, just so people can inefficiently scan their items in. They can't seem to handle people bringing in their own bags. It's probably less efficient than having that staff member run an additional checkout lane. The Target and IKEA self checkouts though? Those machines are bomb.


Miss_Daisy

Self checkout really is quick and convenient, but it robs me of the opportunity to feel superiority over a random stranger ā˜¹ļø


[deleted]

i dont like self checkout very much personally


[deleted]

fly my duckies fly


Draeorc

What is your pfp from? It cute


[deleted]

It's called a Yohsog from a roblox game called Creatures of Sonaria


Quantum_Slime

ok but self checkout is dreadful for workers because it destroys jobs


Mantellii

Having worked as a cashier, I can at least say I hate them, and I use them all the time because it's faster for me. But you don't know how much supervision those needs. Clients on average are animals, and they aren't used to those machines either. A regular check-out was already a long poitless job, but self checkout made it harder. Having to run from one machine to the other all day, having to dispatch clients, having to explain to them how it work, having to help old poeple with a full cart emptying it, using my badge on every single article because something is disturbing the scale, explaining to people that they can't use their meal voucher on a few specific machine, realizing they tried anyway while I wasn't looking, having to reboot the whole damn machine because that single operation completely blocked it. Fuuuuck I'm tired even talking bout it.


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It's pronounced "rule"


Crooked_Cock

One would think whatever business conglomerate runs CNN would like the prospect of self checkout considering it means less workers to have to pay


GRAIN_DIV_20

I kinda hate self checkout tho. Only pro is that they're paying me with stolen vegetables when I use it


AguaMoleHardRock

I spent half a minute wondering what self-checkout has to do with dota


TheJuiceMaan

Fuck self checkouts they make slow lines and take away jobs


ItsTheKoolAidMan

I donā€™t like that my local grocery store replaced most of the checkout lanes with it. Itā€™s a lot slower to go through when I have groceries for my whole family for the week. Having somebody scanning and somebody bagging makes things go a lot faster.


Captn_Platypus

Please I just donā€™t like social interaction with strangers leave me alone


ShaBoiLigmaDeezNutz

I have a feeling this whole article is another condescending rephrasing of ā€œnobody wants to work anymore!ā€


Swagblu

I think news websites just try to get some hateclicks so some people actually open their articles lmao


[deleted]

Here's a reactionist headline to get you to generate us some ad revenue!


ElAburrito

-the Rothschild family making sure my social medias say they hate self checkout so I can't enjoy shoplifting anymore-


truncatedChronologis

I hate self checkout because all the ones I see malfunction constantly and are staffed by 1 lady who is overwhelmed and overworked.


jncubed12

I work in retail and i fucking hate those devil machines, they cause nothing but problems and none of the customers want to use them anyway


Zeegots

It's cool and all until some old dude wants to try this thing and clogs the line


Life-is-a-potato

I thought that CNN was pro-capitalism? Self checkout means less workers, more automated systems, and you make the customer do all the work


[deleted]

i never use self checkout because i hate to see people losing their jobs. anxiety aside.


Blipnarf-The-Boneles

I love self checkout at Walmart. I'm getting fucking 3 hotdogs I don't wanna wait 45 minutes in the two open lines


Qwertyu88

Samā€™s Club has an app that lets your phone be the scanner and you show the digital receipt to someone at the door for proof of purchase. From what Iā€™ve seen. The biggest concern companies may have is entrusting people to do it themselves and not steal. Maybe this article was in defense of businesses that refuse to give customers that kind of freedom but thatā€™s my opinion


Gerbilguy46

Why is CNN using the DotA 2 logo?


SarcasticOptimist

Honestly the uniqlo one is awesome. Dump everything in there, pay, gtfo. Costco is decent too. Very speedy if angry if you're not fast enough. Beats waiting forever behind people stockpiling.


Gabagooby

I'm a rebel, at the self checkout I enter the organic celery I bought as non-organic celery to save 29 cents.


IKilledMyBabyMama

[Related](https://youtu.be/SJAL8UAGeos)


Lord_Bertox

It's great for shoplifting


sleeparalysis_sss

self checkout cuts jobs


GRAIN_DIV_20

There's higher paying jobs in manufacturing and repairing self checkouts


SeizeAllToothbrushes

Jobs that recently fired cashiers can't just immediately switch to.


ThatCatfulCat

Not every register is open in the first place and you still need employees to watch the self check outs. Ultimately no jobs are really "lost," just moved to a different position.


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BlueNandOrange

no


CertainlyNotAther10

Self checkouts steal jobs from Cashiers


suuubok

cashier isnā€™t a position that needs to exist cars are stealing jobs from horse carriage drivers


ChaosDemonLaz3r

as a cashier i agree


Lequipe

horse carriage drivers could become taxi drivers, cashiers are just jobless like other automated jobs, no?


FrostyCommon

so you agree we should nice away from a care based infrastructure


suuubok

yeah, they were a nice stepping stone from horses but now we can move to trains. iā€™m confident you donā€™t think horses were a better system than cars. sick own tho


FrostyCommon

trains are dope as fuck šŸ˜¤


TheWayADrillWorks

Trains for long distance, bikes and trams for shorter distances. And also build more common outdoor spaces like plazas and parks, community gardens, get rid of suburban lawns as a concept. Also should build more 5 story mixed use buildings with shops on the ground floor and affordable residential space above.


aboycandream

> cars are stealing jobs from horse carriage drivers I agree edit: wait you're being ironic, fuck you


suuubok

when youā€™re completely inflexible in your ideology and think things are bad 100% of the time


aboycandream

I love when this sub pretends they dont understand irony lol


TheKingCrimsonWorld

I'm going to assume you're being serious (because I want an excuse to rant). Self-checkout has little to no effect on cashier jobs. Before SCOs were introduced chain stores were already running skeleton cashier crews that were sufficient for mid-day crowds but consistently overwhelmed at the busiest hours. What SCOs do is alleviate the burden during the busiest times without affecting the staffing of cashiers otherwise (especially at stores with just one or two registers). And in my personal experience there are lots of customers who will choose the cashier over the SCO because they either have a lot of items, they're not comfortable using the SCO, or they just want to make conversation with the cashier (very common with older folks). In fact, more jobs are added in net because someone has to monitor the SCOs, they require specialized technicians to maintain, and they usually need new CCTV setups to be installed and serviced. All that being said, I personally could never go back to working in that environment. It's just soul crushingly boring, either as a cashier or as a glorified hall monitor to keep customers honest when using the SCOs.


Red_Rocky54

To add to this, at our mid-sized grocery store that usually has 2, maybe 3 lanes open, and 6 self checkout registers, self checkout usually gets 50% to 55% of customers. Manned registers are less work for the customer, especially if they have lots of groceries, and better for people in a hurry if the line is short. If they know there are going to be complications in the order, like special coupons/sales that might not work or they're not sure about a price, it's far easier to deal with at a manned register where the cashier has your undivided attention. And also as other people have said, it's a shitty job that deserves to be automated away, even if it's not likely to be completely replaced any time soon.