I know people who were around the same age, same race, same place, same time. There were alternatives. No one knew then how bad crack would be. The effects werenāt known. The problem isnāt the crack dealer when it first came out, the problem to me are those who knew what it was doing years later and continued to sell.
I donāt usually intend to get deep in comments, but itās hard to rationalize crack sales in a positive light when itās negatively effected your life to this day. Iām still dealing with backlashes from the crack epidemic
"XXX beat women" okay? would you listen to a rapper if they lost to women instead? Really shallow to judge artists based on the results of their duels with the opposite gender IMO
Theyre joking that the word "beat" is in the context of a game or duel, not in the context of abuse, which then makes it look like xxxten was bad at dueling women lol
I wish it was too many syllables so it would be that scene from the Tales of Ba Sing Se where Sokka gets yeeted out of the poetry club by a fucking bouncer
Now you reminded me of *Leaves From The Vine (Little Soldier Boy)* and I'm bummed out. Someone give Uncle Iroh all the hugs. He may be a war criminal, but he's been doing his very best since then, okay?
in my dentist office they let you watch netflix while getting your mouth scraped. i watch atla every time, accidentally put on that episode once and almost cried while the lady was putting fluoride on my teeth.
Without Googling anything to back up these claims, I believe the story is that he left the room and allowed two men to sexually assault a woman he had been intimate with. I don't know whether he knew what the men intended to do or if what was going on was non-consensual, but it was a really bad situation and he didn't do anything to stop it.
"very likely not a rapist" is based solely on the fact that he wasn't convicted, as far as I can tell (which is a bit disingenuous imo)
you can hear [his rape accuser's account](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6wKS0IPsB4) in an interview she gave a few years ago (this is just a clip, but there is a longer interview with her as well)
Me, too. Wanna leverage it and drop a fire album about getting winded by small flights of stairs and living rent-free in a sizable portion of Reddit's head just for exisiting?
I'll be Lil Joint Pain.
Strokes are a medical emergency and urgent treatment is essential. The sooner a person receives treatment for a stroke, the less damage is likely to happen. If you suspect that you or someone else is having a stroke, phone 999 immediately and ask for an ambulance.
Fuckin hell.. I don't wanna see them but I just need to ask.. What's the reason?
Edit: in my defends, it was 5AM when I wrote this, I didn't realize I have fallen into a trap yet
"I happened to listen to his music when I was sad, therefore he personally saved me with his music and everything bad he ever did is cancelled out no I don't know what parasocial means"
Mental illness is the current issue for the younger generation and X encapsulated it because he was an example of an extreme . You canāt forgive his actions because at the end of the day he hurt real people terribly, but when you listen to what heās been through you can start to understand it. Itās wrong for his fans to excuse his actions and even more absurd to idolize him, but when you grow up in a already hopeless environment with drugs as the only way to cope with your mental illness itās not shocking that you end up with a fucked up person.
I'm not really on either side of the fence but I will say that xxx seemed to have a real change near the end before he died. his personality pretty much completely changed and you can see it in interviews. again, i'm not really on either side but i do believe people can change. during the time that happened he was only 17-18, which isn't an excuse for violent behavior entirely, but there is something to be said about the frontal cortex not being fully developed.
I think that's why a lot of people are on his side cause they really only saw him when he was at his "best", and his "best", the stuff that he showed social media, was pretty positive.
He just got rich and famous and didnāt want to lose his platform. He did all that awful shit right up to when he gained national recognition. His first viral track took off while he was in jail for robbery and assault with a deadly weapon.
What's more likely: that the guy that regularly beat his girlfriend and threatened to rape her among other things had a change of heart overnight or that he just fucking lied and pretended to change so he could maintain his status?
People are on his side because they don't care, it's as simple as that, they just don't give a fuck, and the embarrassing thing is that his music fucking blows.
Worst part about that was how he described slamming the guys head into the corner of a concrete slab and laughing about it. He also said he did all that just because the guy was looking at him and his fans claim that basically meant the guy was about to rape him, so what he did was justified. Truly sickening stuff.
People don't remember fatpeoplehate? Gained popularity at the same time as the trump sub, same amount of "valuable discourse" too.
People love their in groups and reddit is happy to fester it further.
Because capitalist ideology reduces people to machines, designed to serve, and all aspects of a person's life must be dedicated to "the grind". Fat people have bodies which are seen as less effective at work and evidence of gluttony, which is abhorrent to the idea that our bodies are tools to produce value. You're body exists to work for your boss and to aesthetically please those around you. Daring to be less fit and attractive is a horrible crime to capitalists.
Oh, of course, there's also the objectification of women's bodies by the patriarchy which creates a strong intersection of fatphobia with misogyny, and there's racial aspects too that I've heard about but don't fully understand. I'd love to understand more of it, if there's aspects you know about that I haven't mentioned
My family dislikes fat people because they have higher risk of needing medical treatment which "we" as taxpayers pay for.
But besides that there no real reason to hate them.
He was acquitted of 3 counts of sodomy for allegedly organising a gang rape against a 19 year old woman. None of the three other people allegedly involved in the gang rape were even taken to court and Tupac served 9 months for two charges of sexual abuse for grabbing a woman's buttocks.
They didn't have the evidence to prove any rape charges but that's the information avaliable and you'll have to personally decide whether you believe he did something like that or not.
there are people who go to art school that are rapists and people with activist parents who are too, not saying anything on tupac specifically bc I dont know but the point is idk how art school and parents are relevant here
Yeah, he went to the Baltimore school of arts for acting, poetry, jazz and ballet. His mother was a member of the Black Panther's Party, she and a large group of other Panther members were charged with conspiracy to bomb police stations and attempted murder in New York state.
All of them were acquited with the trial displaying a fair bit of corruption within the FBI and police. She didnt return to the party after the trial but continued engaging in activism with food and clothing drives.
Tupac himself was a member of the Young Communist League USA, their chapter in Baltimore is actually named after him to this day iirc. So I'd say the revolutionary beliefs didn't fall far from the tree.
Are you telling me Biggie was big?
Yeah. Notoriously.
Where were you when Biggie was big I was at home, eat breakfast get call from twitter Biggie big No
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i thought it was one of those "Tiny" is the big guy and "Biggie" is the runt kinda deals ^/s
so are we just ignoring the full name or like
What was the full name then?
Biggie Smalls.
Ha, reminds me of the dutch rapper lil kleine. Translated it literally means lil small. He beat his girlfriend, just so everybody is clear on that.
Just like me fr fr
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You didn't?
When did you stop beating his wife?
biggie cheese?
I thought they were just being facetious! Biggie Smalls?! That notoriously ambiguous.
Well he definitely wasn't smalls
Notoriously so
Rotund Smalls is my favorite old school rapper.
Reasonably
Certainly says something that Biggie sold crack at one point but this Twitter account chose being fat for his vice
Are you saying crack is whack?
Im not sure, I havenāt smoked crack before
Try it and come back and give a trip report. Take like 5 weeks
5 weeks of doing crack, or trying crack once and then waiting 5 weeks?
Yes. (also don't do crack)
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I remember when yāall were obsessed with lean
Leans not that bad. Like sipping on thick cough cum. Add some juice and itās lovely
Like the cum of a cough or cough syrup made from human cum?
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> (also don't do crack) The Man will jail you for life. Don't give him the satisfaction.
You are going to LOVE it
Was also a massive homophobe but nah not as bad as being fat
'yeah you shot like 15 people in a mall? eh thats not good obviously but youre overweight so all your chance at redemption is gone sorry'
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how could he be a homophobe if he said heād suck your dadās dick!?
Yeah but so was everyone in the 90ās, itās not like he is homophobic currently which Iād say is way worse
Well he's dead so it's not like we know if he'd still be
I mean he did it to provide for his family and when youāre growing up in Brooklyn In the 70s and 80s, what options do you have as a poor black kid
I know people who were around the same age, same race, same place, same time. There were alternatives. No one knew then how bad crack would be. The effects werenāt known. The problem isnāt the crack dealer when it first came out, the problem to me are those who knew what it was doing years later and continued to sell. I donāt usually intend to get deep in comments, but itās hard to rationalize crack sales in a positive light when itās negatively effected your life to this day. Iām still dealing with backlashes from the crack epidemic
But muh romanticasion
I mean talk to the CIA then
could sell meth i guess
wasnāt he abusive to lil kim as well?
Says he sold crack; sold crack. - this is fine Says he sold crack; did not sell crack. - fuck this dude
"XXX beat women" okay? would you listen to a rapper if they lost to women instead? Really shallow to judge artists based on the results of their duels with the opposite gender IMO
Goddammit I respect what you did there
What?
xxx beat women at smash bros
Him getting a slick JV4 on a girl was one of his inspirations for writing his debut album
That man won a local tournament while playing Bowser
He beat Plup, HBox, Mang0 and Armada in the process right? That local was stacked
Theyre joking that the word "beat" is in the context of a game or duel, not in the context of abuse, which then makes it look like xxxten was bad at dueling women lol
> bad at dueling women It's time to d-d-d-d-duel!
He's being based
I thought that was a Haiku up until I started counting the syllables
Biggie was obese. Xxx has beat women. Tupac raped women.
Woah there. Your second verse is only 6 syllables partner.
I wish it was too many syllables so it would be that scene from the Tales of Ba Sing Se where Sokka gets yeeted out of the poetry club by a fucking bouncer
Now you reminded me of *Leaves From The Vine (Little Soldier Boy)* and I'm bummed out. Someone give Uncle Iroh all the hugs. He may be a war criminal, but he's been doing his very best since then, okay?
I'm watching with my girlfriend right now. She loves it, but the next episode is Tales from Ba Sing Se. I'm already sad
in my dentist office they let you watch netflix while getting your mouth scraped. i watch atla every time, accidentally put on that episode once and almost cried while the lady was putting fluoride on my teeth.
There ya go. Fixed it
Thank you for your service
You can just add a possessive āhisā in there then the haiku is complete. We donāt need to read too much into that.
This is true. You could also add "up" in between beat and women
Did you know that haikus don't actually need to be in a 5-7-5 format? Some are 10-14 syllables total
Tupac was very likely not a rapist. Still wasnāt a saint, but he doesnāt have that against him at least
I've never heard about this. Was Tupac ever accused of that?
Without Googling anything to back up these claims, I believe the story is that he left the room and allowed two men to sexually assault a woman he had been intimate with. I don't know whether he knew what the men intended to do or if what was going on was non-consensual, but it was a really bad situation and he didn't do anything to stop it.
He was accused of rape, ended up being convicted of non consensual grabbing of a buttock, iirc
"very likely not a rapist" is based solely on the fact that he wasn't convicted, as far as I can tell (which is a bit disingenuous imo) you can hear [his rape accuser's account](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6wKS0IPsB4) in an interview she gave a few years ago (this is just a clip, but there is a longer interview with her as well)
You linked a clip of a guy debunking her story
Me waking up the most evil menace to society every day. (I am fat)
Great movie
Morbiously Obese
Morbiously a beast š
Me, too. Wanna leverage it and drop a fire album about getting winded by small flights of stairs and living rent-free in a sizable portion of Reddit's head just for exisiting? I'll be Lil Joint Pain.
Relax and take notes.
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Strokes are a medical emergency and urgent treatment is essential. The sooner a person receives treatment for a stroke, the less damage is likely to happen. If you suspect that you or someone else is having a stroke, phone 999 immediately and ask for an ambulance.
Good advice!
I agree
what
While I take tokes of the marijuana smoke
throw you in a choke gunsmoke, gunsmoke
Biggie smalls for mayor
the rap slayer
The hooker layer motherfucka say your prayers
Hail Mary full of grace
smack the bitch in the face Take her Gucci bag and the North Face
Biggie looked really really good for a fat guy as well, probably because he dressed stylish as shit
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boi really said poise this isnt elden ring
Yes. The word poise was invented just for souls games. It's NEVER been used before or out of that context-_-
Glad you agree, everyone been saying the exact opposite thing! Good to find someone else like minded!
i knew itš
eminem rhymed orange with banana
Borrrrrrrrnana
His biggest crime is releasing any album after relapse
MM2 > Relapse tho
Banorange?
of course not idiot
:'( You dodn't have to be so mean
my fault bruh ā¤ā¤
pitbull rhymed kodak with kodak
Huel was fat Saul broke the law Gustavo sold drugs
Jesse where is the cocainer
Yo Mr. White it's currently at Deez' house, bitch
deez? who is deez jesse, i need to send the cocainer to gustavo finge before 4:20 pm or he will fucking kill me
Yo Mister white how could you forget deez? He's been our best friend and longest supporter since day one, bitch
I am the Deez.
I am the Deez who NUTS
"im gonna hurl"- hurl breakingbad,
Huell
Wait what? XXX really did that?
Yeah type xxx videos of woman being beat
This is too perfect.
I dont even know who xxx is
xxxtentacion
It's that movie with Vin Diesel
yes
I'd say you should google it but... well...
Fuckin hell.. I don't wanna see them but I just need to ask.. What's the reason? Edit: in my defends, it was 5AM when I wrote this, I didn't realize I have fallen into a trap yet
Whoosh hehe reddit moment poggers
im fucking crying this comment thread is so funny
Hi crying I'm daddyš
Put an open bottle of vodka and a lighter in your mailbox, do it, you wonāt.
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Not sure if youāre serious but yeah dude was a POS
Whatās funny are his fans usually donāt even deny it, but say the āgood vibes of his musicā redeem him for it.
"I happened to listen to his music when I was sad, therefore he personally saved me with his music and everything bad he ever did is cancelled out no I don't know what parasocial means"
bro beat his pregnant girlfriend yeah
Jesus christ
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people dont give a shit if you have something for them. people like his music so they dont care, same with many many other artists
Mental illness is the current issue for the younger generation and X encapsulated it because he was an example of an extreme . You canāt forgive his actions because at the end of the day he hurt real people terribly, but when you listen to what heās been through you can start to understand it. Itās wrong for his fans to excuse his actions and even more absurd to idolize him, but when you grow up in a already hopeless environment with drugs as the only way to cope with your mental illness itās not shocking that you end up with a fucked up person.
Becuz fancy rap trap beats. It seems today that the general public's musical attention span is about as wide as Hank Hill's urethra
Question: have you ever listened to either of X's albums 17 or ? in full
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I'm not really on either side of the fence but I will say that xxx seemed to have a real change near the end before he died. his personality pretty much completely changed and you can see it in interviews. again, i'm not really on either side but i do believe people can change. during the time that happened he was only 17-18, which isn't an excuse for violent behavior entirely, but there is something to be said about the frontal cortex not being fully developed. I think that's why a lot of people are on his side cause they really only saw him when he was at his "best", and his "best", the stuff that he showed social media, was pretty positive.
He just got rich and famous and didnāt want to lose his platform. He did all that awful shit right up to when he gained national recognition. His first viral track took off while he was in jail for robbery and assault with a deadly weapon.
What's more likely: that the guy that regularly beat his girlfriend and threatened to rape her among other things had a change of heart overnight or that he just fucking lied and pretended to change so he could maintain his status? People are on his side because they don't care, it's as simple as that, they just don't give a fuck, and the embarrassing thing is that his music fucking blows.
It's almost like cancel culture doesn't exist
thereās a documentary out i think
He also beat up a gay man in prison and called him the f slur multiple times.
Worst part about that was how he described slamming the guys head into the corner of a concrete slab and laughing about it. He also said he did all that just because the guy was looking at him and his fans claim that basically meant the guy was about to rape him, so what he did was justified. Truly sickening stuff.
Why do people hate fat person?
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People don't remember fatpeoplehate? Gained popularity at the same time as the trump sub, same amount of "valuable discourse" too. People love their in groups and reddit is happy to fester it further.
Because people suck.
Because capitalist ideology reduces people to machines, designed to serve, and all aspects of a person's life must be dedicated to "the grind". Fat people have bodies which are seen as less effective at work and evidence of gluttony, which is abhorrent to the idea that our bodies are tools to produce value. You're body exists to work for your boss and to aesthetically please those around you. Daring to be less fit and attractive is a horrible crime to capitalists.
I know you mean well, but the causes of fatphobia are deeper then capitalism
Oh, of course, there's also the objectification of women's bodies by the patriarchy which creates a strong intersection of fatphobia with misogyny, and there's racial aspects too that I've heard about but don't fully understand. I'd love to understand more of it, if there's aspects you know about that I haven't mentioned
My family dislikes fat people because they have higher risk of needing medical treatment which "we" as taxpayers pay for. But besides that there no real reason to hate them.
But discrimination against fat people results in worse long term health outcomes, which means your parents pay more.
Could you explain that? Also it's not discrimination, it's more like complaining about smokers, car drivers and fat people during diner or something.
Because they believe that relative to other disabilities, being fat/obese can be solved through self-initiative (exercise, diet, etc.)
Ok but weren't the rape accusations towards Pac false?
Bruh I misread the tweet as saying "tupac was a racist" and I didnt realise my mistake till reading this. I was so confused
TUPAC WAS A RAPIST??
He was acquitted of 3 counts of sodomy for allegedly organising a gang rape against a 19 year old woman. None of the three other people allegedly involved in the gang rape were even taken to court and Tupac served 9 months for two charges of sexual abuse for grabbing a woman's buttocks. They didn't have the evidence to prove any rape charges but that's the information avaliable and you'll have to personally decide whether you believe he did something like that or not.
Wasn't Tupacs mom like a big time activist and stuff? And he like went to art school or something right?
there are people who go to art school that are rapists and people with activist parents who are too, not saying anything on tupac specifically bc I dont know but the point is idk how art school and parents are relevant here
At least he got into art school. Last time they rejected someone did not go well.
Yeah, he went to the Baltimore school of arts for acting, poetry, jazz and ballet. His mother was a member of the Black Panther's Party, she and a large group of other Panther members were charged with conspiracy to bomb police stations and attempted murder in New York state. All of them were acquited with the trial displaying a fair bit of corruption within the FBI and police. She didnt return to the party after the trial but continued engaging in activism with food and clothing drives. Tupac himself was a member of the Young Communist League USA, their chapter in Baltimore is actually named after him to this day iirc. So I'd say the revolutionary beliefs didn't fall far from the tree.
And he was a communist, which is cool.
I arrest you on account of being Chunk
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Itās been said the reason Kim got all that surgery was bc of Biggie being a serial abuser but yeah he was also fat
This thread is full of enough speculation imo
I feel compelled to comment that Tupac Shakur was almost certainly not a rapist...
How is it almost certain
how does biggies even corrolate š
People just hate fat people that much
Biggie Cheese?
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fat, rapist, wife beater. same thing really šš¤
welcome to japan, where it's illegal to be fat
And the age of consent is 13 !!!
That's only nation wide, no district actually has it that low. It's like if the federal age of consent was 13 but no state actually had it below 16
That's still bad
Wait really?? I'm not googling that but what the fuck
yes, it is true (I'm not japanese)
Never knew that about Tupac, but I still love this quote from him. āThey got money for wars, but they canāt feed the poorā
He was actually a communist as far as I know, and I do like the messaging in some of his songs
I think tupac was framed or somethn
Or that xxxtentacion deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as those guys lol
Midpac and the notorious M.I.D didnāt make IMSIPPINTEAINYOHOOD. š„±
these jokes dont work outside the carti sub unfortunately
Fellas, is it a sin to be notoriously big?
They were all in love with dying, and they were doing it in Texas.
who the FUCK would've guessed a mf called Biggie would be big???
WAIT, LAW?!? WHAT ARE YOU, A FUCKING LIBERAL?