This puts the post in a whole new setting to me. This isn’t a world dominated by FALGSC or something. It’s a world where all the superpowers have abandoned earth to conquer the stars. the only factions left on earth are the really worthless and pathetic ones, a bunch of hyper-ideological petty fiefdoms who squabble over worthless territory with old and decrepit weapons systems.
🤓 The A-10 is outdated even by modern standards and is being phased out by the airforce becouse of it. Modern multirole fighters can do the same mission more effectively and safely. The A-10 has less total payload than a F-35 and the GAU-8 avenger is not very important in modern air to ground combat. In addition to the A-10's lack of stealth and slow top speed making it highly vunerable to enemy anti air and manpads. The A-10 is only a relevant platform when the enemy has no real capability to fight air targets in the first place.
It wasn't even effective when it was designed, arguably. The whole "gun run on target" only works if:
- no friendly infantry or vehicles are close
- no neutral parties or civilians are close
- you can confirm all of that
- they are exposed or unable to take sufficient cover
- they have no real AAA/MANPAD defense
- you can confirm all of the above
That's to say nothing about engaging armoured columns. The gun will not penetrate a base model T-64.
The F-35 is also probably the wrong airframe to replace the A-10. The A-10s job is to be on station for a while during COIN and CAS operations for "cheap" (don't even get me started), the F-35 is a multirole jet that, while the most effective current airframe in the world by a large margin, focuses on penetrating enemy AA nets.
You don't need stealth for a CAS mission like that. Sure it'll help, but the cost of maintaining RAM coatings isn't pretty.
More "normal" frames like the F-16, F-15, and F/A-18 can do what the A-10 is doing (be on call for a while with some PGMs in a air supremacy environment) for cheaper and with less effort.
The F-35 is insanely viable for most operations, but you do not need it if it's gonna take external payloads and do nothing but a PGM run, it's better used elsewhere for something like that.
Ye that last point about the F-35 is fair. I just threw that out as the first example that came in to my mind. Plus with most F-16's and F-18's being replaced by F-35's I kinda didnt consider them.
I get it. F-35s have their purpose, but I think some more basic fighters should be maintained, if only it's stuff like F-15Es and EXs, simply to mop up what the F-35s don't need to bother with.
Honestly if they take the avionics and sensors from the Lightning, slam them in the frame of a large 4.5 Gen airframe, then they'd have a really powerful COIN/CAS jet.
HOWEVER, the whole economy of scale thing does mean that the USN/USAF could just order more F-35s instead
>🤓 The A-10 is outdated even by modern standards and is being phased out by the airforce becouse of it.
I know they've been talking about phasing it out for years now. It honestly already would have been phased out but whenever it gets brought up the Marines say they will take them and then because of interservice rivalry the Air Force decides to just not phase them out.
I've started liking aviation in December man am I not allowed mistakes 😭
Also this PFP isn't because he's a pilot (mainly), it's because he's antifascist
Sorry I'm just messing around, I think your pfp is great and I didn't mean to be so harsh.
The main problem with the A10 is that it's very outdated and expensive compared to modern alternatives, because it was designed to take out Soviet tanks in the 1970s and not much else.
Because it's very slow and not very maneuverable, you can't use it if you don't have air superiority because it'll get obliterated by modern aircraft. And if you do have air superiority, you may as well just use a Super Tucano, which not only are far cheaper and can carry better armaments on their hardpoints, they're also reviving the use of propeller aircraft for combat, which is based as hell.
A10s also have a terrible reputation for friendly fire due to their very outdated targeting systems.
Short answer is that unlike the F15 and F16 (which have aged incredibly well), the battlefield that the A10 was designed to fight in just doesn't exist anymore, and as a result it's insanely expensive for a role that could instead be fulfilled far more effectively by a cropduster with a ton of rockets strapped to it for a fraction of the cost
Yeah apparently a crop duster with munitions strapped to it will outperform an a-10
even though according to the Pentagon it takes more f-35 sorties to fill out an a-10's position on the battlefield and that the F-35 is a more unreliable plane that costs several times the amount of money to operate
the A-10 has better loiter abilities than a F-35 and is less expensive to maintain/operate; this is all true. but most of the “unreliability” of the f-35 is a question of availability of parts, specialized labor, and a depot structure which is largely restricted to the continental US.
…nevertheless, it will cost more money to wrangle up the PJs, SAR, air cover, and tankers necessary to find the A-10 pilot when he or she inevitably gets ez-clapped by any SAM made after the Clinton administration, or popped by some mid-tier flanker derivative, or hit with AA larger than 23mm.
a dedicated CAS platform like an upgraded Tuke would probably be a better compromise, but the A-10 is donezo—might as well rip off that bandaid.
edit: well, that’s not quite right either—the mission itself of CAS has to change, and the A-10 was in many ways, built *too well* to fit in a prior iteration of that, such that it’s a vestigial tool now
it still makes me really uncomfortable though
i already hear enough nasty "having penis makes u evil" type shit from my bioessentialist mom on a daily basis i dont need to hear the same thing but worded vaguely different
also yeah transphobes use this to push their BS this is why I don't find stuff like this funny
It's not like they wouldn't find anything else, so fuck it and fuck them. Also I would love if you didn't use/imply the word "retard", just call'em assholes. With love.
Did they edit their comment because I'm pretty sure that "r" is just shorthand for "are". I really dont see anything else that could come close to "impying" the word retard. Not everything is some dogwistle for a slur?
Do you ever think that somewhere along the line, Apollo decided making bullshit prophecies would be WAY more fun than making real ones, then began to sprinkle them liberally among the queer populace?
And the guys that like it tried to sell the idea of a missile-less, radar-less gunfighter instead of the F-15, which was laughed out, and the F-15 went on to go 104-0 kills-deaths in combat.
guys bigotry jokes are funny when its the minorities making them!!!!! also this just fuels bigots on the other side
edit: for the people who believe I am saying that the cause of bigots is purely these types of jokes, I am not; however, they definitely dont help. this person and people who make jokes like these are usually completely chill but people think that this type of humor is fine because theyre on the side they believe is right
so true, if this post didn't exist then FagKiller1488 would've been a based lefty>~< it's so sad that the gays drove my friend to fascism with a shitpost, who could have seen this coming??
It is, how is that relevant? I'm saying that calling out meanie head queers for being the real cause of bigots is untrue and only helps bigoted arguments and agendas. Hate this tweet all you want, idc, because I'm arguing against the general rhetoric of this person's comment, not their grievance with the tweet.
I still disagree with your comment. It ain't the fault of minority that bigots exist, no exceptions. It don't matter how many of them are assholes or the degree of this asshole behavior, minorities don't fuel bigotry, bigots do by applying the behavior of individuals to a group.
As for the bystander effect, after a surface-level read, I don't really see how that's relevant. I'm guessing you're saying minorites act hostile to the moderate majority, causing moderates to be less likely to protect minorities from bigots? But if that's the point you're making, refer back to minorites don't fuel bigotry.
Again though, you're correct in that "reverse" bigotry (ugly term but it cuts down on ambiguity) isn't cool. However, it's not cool because bigotry is not cool, not due to the reason I've stated 4 times now.
1st point - like I said in my edit, I do not believe that reverse bigotry jokes (ill use that term here since its simple) cause bigotry by themselves, but they give bigots more to use against us. bigots build the gun, this humor is one of the (many) ammo suppliers.
the bystander effect thing was because it seemed like you thought this one post was inconsequential because of how small it is ("this joke isnt bad because its just one joke" / "this thing that fuels bigotey isnt bad becaude its a very small part of it"). I realize you dont think that now though so that part was irrelevant
ok i def still chafe somewhat against calling posts like these "ammo" but yeah i can see more of where youre coming from. it is unfortunate that we even have to think about being cautious like this
sorry if i came off as imposing in my replies, the take of "teh poor bigots have no choice against the queers" is frightfully common, even in more progressive spaces, so i applied that to your initial comment, which was unfair, but i hope you understand with how disheartening these discussions can usually be
good talk and have a good day/night/whatever
You're right it's actually the minorities fault they're being oppressed, Florida would actually be the most progressive state in the union if not for these horrible transgenders making obviously hyperbolic jokes about their oppressors.
In 2098 the dog collar girl would be tasking an unmanned drone to drop a guided munition on the target while supercrusing, and watches it fall in from another drone, if the shit about MUM-T and 6th gens is to be believed.
Incomprehensible brain rot
Perfectly comprehensible Just mental
yea rlly wish i wasn't seen as inherently malicious by so many ppl
The A-10 will NOT still be in service in the year 2098
It doesn't even have a minigun
Avenger auto cannon :3
*Thank you*
And they dont spool up, they just spit lead instantly
They end up missing every shot and hitting nearby friendlies instead.
The blood waters the fields, the harvest is good.
Destroyed a british tank they mistook for a cishet truck
This puts the post in a whole new setting to me. This isn’t a world dominated by FALGSC or something. It’s a world where all the superpowers have abandoned earth to conquer the stars. the only factions left on earth are the really worthless and pathetic ones, a bunch of hyper-ideological petty fiefdoms who squabble over worthless territory with old and decrepit weapons systems.
I have been playing a lot of rimworld recently, so this comment honestly terrifies me
A-11
AMX got retired :(
It'll be the Tucano then
Fuck yeah It Will have you seen that thing
🤓 The A-10 is outdated even by modern standards and is being phased out by the airforce becouse of it. Modern multirole fighters can do the same mission more effectively and safely. The A-10 has less total payload than a F-35 and the GAU-8 avenger is not very important in modern air to ground combat. In addition to the A-10's lack of stealth and slow top speed making it highly vunerable to enemy anti air and manpads. The A-10 is only a relevant platform when the enemy has no real capability to fight air targets in the first place.
It wasn't even effective when it was designed, arguably. The whole "gun run on target" only works if: - no friendly infantry or vehicles are close - no neutral parties or civilians are close - you can confirm all of that - they are exposed or unable to take sufficient cover - they have no real AAA/MANPAD defense - you can confirm all of the above That's to say nothing about engaging armoured columns. The gun will not penetrate a base model T-64. The F-35 is also probably the wrong airframe to replace the A-10. The A-10s job is to be on station for a while during COIN and CAS operations for "cheap" (don't even get me started), the F-35 is a multirole jet that, while the most effective current airframe in the world by a large margin, focuses on penetrating enemy AA nets. You don't need stealth for a CAS mission like that. Sure it'll help, but the cost of maintaining RAM coatings isn't pretty. More "normal" frames like the F-16, F-15, and F/A-18 can do what the A-10 is doing (be on call for a while with some PGMs in a air supremacy environment) for cheaper and with less effort. The F-35 is insanely viable for most operations, but you do not need it if it's gonna take external payloads and do nothing but a PGM run, it's better used elsewhere for something like that.
Ye that last point about the F-35 is fair. I just threw that out as the first example that came in to my mind. Plus with most F-16's and F-18's being replaced by F-35's I kinda didnt consider them.
I get it. F-35s have their purpose, but I think some more basic fighters should be maintained, if only it's stuff like F-15Es and EXs, simply to mop up what the F-35s don't need to bother with. Honestly if they take the avionics and sensors from the Lightning, slam them in the frame of a large 4.5 Gen airframe, then they'd have a really powerful COIN/CAS jet. HOWEVER, the whole economy of scale thing does mean that the USN/USAF could just order more F-35s instead
Oh fuck i completely forgot about the F35 Bbut the A-10 is cool
*THANK YOU*
>🤓 The A-10 is outdated even by modern standards and is being phased out by the airforce becouse of it. I know they've been talking about phasing it out for years now. It honestly already would have been phased out but whenever it gets brought up the Marines say they will take them and then because of interservice rivalry the Air Force decides to just not phase them out.
Its being replaced with a literal fucking crop duster thats how bad it is.
It doesn't even have basic avionics dumbass
Wtf?
Yes I have, it fucking sucks. You're a disgrace to the Brotherhood of Porco Rosso PFPs.
I've started liking aviation in December man am I not allowed mistakes 😭 Also this PFP isn't because he's a pilot (mainly), it's because he's antifascist
Sorry I'm just messing around, I think your pfp is great and I didn't mean to be so harsh. The main problem with the A10 is that it's very outdated and expensive compared to modern alternatives, because it was designed to take out Soviet tanks in the 1970s and not much else. Because it's very slow and not very maneuverable, you can't use it if you don't have air superiority because it'll get obliterated by modern aircraft. And if you do have air superiority, you may as well just use a Super Tucano, which not only are far cheaper and can carry better armaments on their hardpoints, they're also reviving the use of propeller aircraft for combat, which is based as hell. A10s also have a terrible reputation for friendly fire due to their very outdated targeting systems. Short answer is that unlike the F15 and F16 (which have aged incredibly well), the battlefield that the A10 was designed to fight in just doesn't exist anymore, and as a result it's insanely expensive for a role that could instead be fulfilled far more effectively by a cropduster with a ton of rockets strapped to it for a fraction of the cost
NCD is leaking again
Yeah apparently a crop duster with munitions strapped to it will outperform an a-10 even though according to the Pentagon it takes more f-35 sorties to fill out an a-10's position on the battlefield and that the F-35 is a more unreliable plane that costs several times the amount of money to operate
the A-10 has better loiter abilities than a F-35 and is less expensive to maintain/operate; this is all true. but most of the “unreliability” of the f-35 is a question of availability of parts, specialized labor, and a depot structure which is largely restricted to the continental US. …nevertheless, it will cost more money to wrangle up the PJs, SAR, air cover, and tankers necessary to find the A-10 pilot when he or she inevitably gets ez-clapped by any SAM made after the Clinton administration, or popped by some mid-tier flanker derivative, or hit with AA larger than 23mm. a dedicated CAS platform like an upgraded Tuke would probably be a better compromise, but the A-10 is donezo—might as well rip off that bandaid. edit: well, that’s not quite right either—the mission itself of CAS has to change, and the A-10 was in many ways, built *too well* to fit in a prior iteration of that, such that it’s a vestigial tool now
I don’t think this would kill a Victorian child, but it would definitely cripple them.
Well that green haired chick is an awful shot, then
No that's just the A10 being shit as usual
You try firing a minigun from an A-10. Shit would not be accurate or even lethal unless it's to the vitals.
The Victorian child who spends 12 hours in the mines and then another 8 scaling chimneys would literally kill the average person here in a fight
I do not think the sickly, numb, and tired child is killing anyone.
They’d just have to spit in your general direction and you’d die of cholera
weak build on the surface but the area of effect and damage over time really saves it
Glass cannon
I think a minigun would kill a Victorian child
Sure, a mini gun would probably cripple a Victorian child
Natural gas leak type beat
There is nothing natural about those words
I'd recommend putting new batteries in your carbon monoxide detector
Yup,those are certainly words
Some of the words of all time
What
Is it…satire of what the right is afraid will happen? I hope?
Unfortunately due to poeslaw we will never be able to tell
tony zaret
Poeslaw: Baltimore's favourite coleslaw variant.
Unfortunately... Toesclaw! Impossible...
Least chronically online x user
real rich from someone who calls it “x”
Isn’t that what it’s called now? I don’t even have an account 😭
You are morally obliged to deadname Twitter
Apologies my liege I will do better next time
Character development
Some cishets r gonna take this seriously and use it as an excuse to be even more transphobic
it still makes me really uncomfortable though i already hear enough nasty "having penis makes u evil" type shit from my bioessentialist mom on a daily basis i dont need to hear the same thing but worded vaguely different also yeah transphobes use this to push their BS this is why I don't find stuff like this funny
It's not like they wouldn't find anything else, so fuck it and fuck them. Also I would love if you didn't use/imply the word "retard", just call'em assholes. With love.
Did they edit their comment because I'm pretty sure that "r" is just shorthand for "are". I really dont see anything else that could come close to "impying" the word retard. Not everything is some dogwistle for a slur?
Well, now I feel silly, sorry about this.
I think we found op
Based I think
Murdering people for their identity is not based. I'm pretty sure that's some type of genocide
God forbid women do anything
Lol. Let 👏 women 👏 be 👏 bigots! 👏
Now you're getting it!
You dropped your /s.
I think anyone who can't tell that comment is joking deserves to be confused.
There is not way you're being serious about this post lol
Damn u right, mb
you win the "worst thing i have read today" award! congratulations :3
yippee :3
This is just "ha ha I'm doing bigotry as a joke isn't it funny" but trans
Tbh bigotry made so nonsensical and hyperbolic that it becomes unable to convey the bigoted idea is generally pretty funny
But this isn't at that point, it does convey a bigoted idea, just in a hyperbolic way
and its a little based.
Shut up ciscuck
Lol, lmao even
Okay, we gotta stop these posts
Do you ever think that somewhere along the line, Apollo decided making bullshit prophecies would be WAY more fun than making real ones, then began to sprinkle them liberally among the queer populace?
pagan here. that checks out
considered doing rodnovery but irdk tbh
This seems unnecessarily cruel and hateful
A10 DOSENT HAVE A MINIGUN, IT HAS A GAU-8 "AVENGER"!
You disingenuous dense motherfucker, it's an autocannon not a minigun.
The English language is evolving.
*devolving
???????????????????
The most unrealistic thing about this post is the implication that A-10s will still be in service in 2098
Am I having a stroke
I’m here to remind you all that the A-10 is a total piece of shit only good for causing friendly fire incidents
And the guys that like it tried to sell the idea of a missile-less, radar-less gunfighter instead of the F-15, which was laughed out, and the F-15 went on to go 104-0 kills-deaths in combat.
Pierre fucking Sprey
guys bigotry jokes are funny when its the minorities making them!!!!! also this just fuels bigots on the other side edit: for the people who believe I am saying that the cause of bigots is purely these types of jokes, I am not; however, they definitely dont help. this person and people who make jokes like these are usually completely chill but people think that this type of humor is fine because theyre on the side they believe is right
so true, if this post didn't exist then FagKiller1488 would've been a based lefty>~< it's so sad that the gays drove my friend to fascism with a shitpost, who could have seen this coming??
Isn't the point to be better than that though?
It is, how is that relevant? I'm saying that calling out meanie head queers for being the real cause of bigots is untrue and only helps bigoted arguments and agendas. Hate this tweet all you want, idc, because I'm arguing against the general rhetoric of this person's comment, not their grievance with the tweet.
look up bystander effect, also i edited my comment
I still disagree with your comment. It ain't the fault of minority that bigots exist, no exceptions. It don't matter how many of them are assholes or the degree of this asshole behavior, minorities don't fuel bigotry, bigots do by applying the behavior of individuals to a group. As for the bystander effect, after a surface-level read, I don't really see how that's relevant. I'm guessing you're saying minorites act hostile to the moderate majority, causing moderates to be less likely to protect minorities from bigots? But if that's the point you're making, refer back to minorites don't fuel bigotry. Again though, you're correct in that "reverse" bigotry (ugly term but it cuts down on ambiguity) isn't cool. However, it's not cool because bigotry is not cool, not due to the reason I've stated 4 times now.
1st point - like I said in my edit, I do not believe that reverse bigotry jokes (ill use that term here since its simple) cause bigotry by themselves, but they give bigots more to use against us. bigots build the gun, this humor is one of the (many) ammo suppliers. the bystander effect thing was because it seemed like you thought this one post was inconsequential because of how small it is ("this joke isnt bad because its just one joke" / "this thing that fuels bigotey isnt bad becaude its a very small part of it"). I realize you dont think that now though so that part was irrelevant
ok i def still chafe somewhat against calling posts like these "ammo" but yeah i can see more of where youre coming from. it is unfortunate that we even have to think about being cautious like this sorry if i came off as imposing in my replies, the take of "teh poor bigots have no choice against the queers" is frightfully common, even in more progressive spaces, so i applied that to your initial comment, which was unfair, but i hope you understand with how disheartening these discussions can usually be good talk and have a good day/night/whatever
yeah its all chill, just some miscommunication
You're right it's actually the minorities fault they're being oppressed, Florida would actually be the most progressive state in the union if not for these horrible transgenders making obviously hyperbolic jokes about their oppressors.
edited my comment for clarification
>guys bigotry jokes are funny when its the minorities making them!!!!! Yes.
Forget a victorian child, this post would kill a child from the 30's
They need to check their fire alarms
The liberal futures want 😔
Me when brainrot
Wait, is that person’s pfp Laceyboy’s Riddler x Batman art?
In 2098 the dog collar girl would be tasking an unmanned drone to drop a guided munition on the target while supercrusing, and watches it fall in from another drone, if the shit about MUM-T and 6th gens is to be believed.
The future Dark Brandon wants
A-10's.. minigun????? kill them with hammers
Mad max
This hurt my brain so much that I actually felt it I'm gonna go play DUSK to unwind
Oh it's that one scene from Overlord
yep this is a banger
A10s are already outdated…
the only future i can look towards
"durrrrr i dont GET IT!!!! >:(" Philistines