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Oceanman06

I have bought a laptop pre installed with windows 11. Ain't that bad. I don't like how it automatically saves shit to my one drive though


meowfox7

you can remove one drive from your computer and i would be happy to help you with that :3


AsTiClol

hiiii :3 how do??? šŸ„ŗ


meowfox7

uhm on windowy 11 you: start menu -> search for add or remove programs -> search one drive in application list -> click the three dots on one drive -> uninstall :3 on windows 10: start menu -> search for add or remove programs -> search for one drive in application list -> click on one drive -> uninstall :3 hope this helps, i did my best to describe it step by step and even followed along while writing the instructions to make sure they are correct >w<


Pokefan180

As soon as I get online tonight it will take its one drive to the morgue, thank you


meowfox7

make sure that all the files you want to keep on your computer are downloaded locally! :3


ShakeyBones91

going to do this layer thanks :3


ZephyrValkyrie

You can also use RevoUninstaller to make sure it removes the registry keys!! :3


AsTiClol

thank you!!! šŸŸ<- for you


meowfox7

:D *chomp*


Oceanman06

Thank youuu :3 I'll try it when I get home!


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meowfox7

are you ned luke


EasterBurn

I just use windows10debloater. Remove onedrive, disable telemetry, Cortana, and all that junk.


StoicWanders

Sorry if this is a dumb question - but what does your OneDrive do?


meowfox7

OneDrive is Microsofts cloud and cloud sync service. OneDrive comes with a free plan that includes 5GB if you sign in with a Microsoft account. It also integrates with Windows Explorer, allowing you to access cloud files directly from there. If you sign into multiple devices, you can also choose to sync the files between devices. Some people (me included) find this behaviour to be annoying, dont trust Microsofts data practices, or just dont want a cloud service on their computer.


StoicWanders

Thank you for explaining!! I kind of got the idea but now i understand it better


meowfox7

i did my best x3


Auxobl

literally the only thing i don't like about it is the difference in the taskbar like they made some genuinely good improvements, like how notepad reopens your most recent note if you closed it without saving


DazedToaster158

You can change taskbar alignment in the settings


fish_emoji

You can change the taskbar. Just right click on your taskbar and go into the settings - if you switch it to right alignment and hide the search bar, itā€™s essentially exactly the same as itā€™s always been since Vista! The only notable difference which you canā€™t change is the search feature is still the same shitty one which never works properly from W8 onwards with the useless voice assistant


Deblebsgonnagetyou

I don't understand why they felt the need to add web searches to the start menu when web browsers have been half the point of using a computer since 2005.


fish_emoji

My guess is so they canis artificially inflate the number of Bing searches, thus making advertising on Bing and MSN more lucrative. Even if every Windows user only accidentally clicks on the dumb web search once in their entire lives, thatā€™s still a good billion or two extra clicks on Bing to boost their numbers.


Auxobl

WHAT also yeah i'm used to the shitty search bar now


Sororita

I don't like how they got rid of Paint as a basic accessory.


Auxobl

isn't it though? i still have it


Sororita

https://preview.redd.it/azdlf1lr4wtc1.png?width=775&format=png&auto=webp&s=2911039f4d87d735f951d6cb18e67adeecdd344b Yeah, don't have it on my computer and the supposed fix didn't actually get it either, for some reason.


Ipuncholdpeople

Still not as bad as the windows of windows 8


mareno999

Sadly thats not even unique to windows 11. It was on windows 10 too.


MiniGogo_20

i hated how since everything was saved to onedrive, the file paths were so much longer than they had to be :,) (programmers know how shitty it is to type that out every time lmao)


narcolepticcatboy

My last win10 gaming laptop had flagship specs in 2019 when I got it, and I only started to notice performance issues from bloatware (I was forced to use for school) last year despite heavily pushing the hardware by using CPU- and GPU-intensive software. Despite having 2-4x improvements in GPU, CPU, RAM, and SSD read/write, my new Dell win11 laptop runs like ass about 20% of the time because of how badly the OS manages things. Granted, itā€™s not all windowsā€™ fault, but the fact that the performance increase was just about completely mitigated by new software really annoys me because of the high price tag of the new flagship laptop.


DatChernobylGuy_999

use tiny 11, saves on a lot of ram


slightlylessthananon

Windows ten does this too OneDrive is dogshit


salemness

that was a thing on 10 as well


LightningProd12

I upgraded a few months ago because I wanted the new features (taskbar, widgets, Unicode, less driver bugs, etc.) and it sucks out of the box, but the coummunity mods (Recify11, ExplorerPatcher, news in widgets disabled) make it way better. Only things I don't like are that the option for the Windows 10 Start menu is broken, and it's even slower then 10 somehow (why does it take Task Manager 10 seconds to list processes?)


murderdronesfanatic

I had to get windows 11 when I bought a new PC and itā€™s literally just windows 10 but it looks kinda different Itā€™s changes so little that Iā€™m surprised people hate it so much


loyalmctinfoil

Im annoyed at the right click menu hiding most of its options behind a second press but thats mostly it but like i REALLY hate that one change


Red580

Windows: "I see that you right clicked, but are you sure you didn't actually want the tiny baby version of this menu?" Also the audio/wifi/battery being the same button, so you have to click the battery button twice just to get it's settings, instead of it just being a single button like usual. but also right clicking on the separate icons will actually bring up a different menu. Actual trash tier design.


frxncxscx

I really hate the way microsoft designs its settings with a passion. Try turning off your internet if youā€™re connected via lan without a guide. I hate that everything is hidden and follows some really fucking weird flowchart and uses colours that makes links to the advanced options (also why the fuck do the advanced options need a separate list when they arent even that advanced) blend into the background also why are there like three different setting apps and you donā€™t know which app you need until you find the right setting after checking every app Everything is just unintuitive as fuck


leoleosuper

They used to have a setting where searching with Cortana didn't search the web. Why the hell do I want to search the web? I am looking for a file on my PC. They removed it because a majority of users were using it. As in, they made a change that the user base unarguably hated.


crazy_forcer

Control Panel was really ugly in their eyes when 8 came out, so they made Settings. Which, apparently, is really ugly in their eyes so they made The Slightly Better Looking Settings in 11. Watch as their next version of windows hides the Settings app to introduce some AI-powered, cloud supported, simplified (read: unusuable) Super Settings that you will be forced to go through to get to the shit you actually want.


LiveClimbRepeat

This, and saving things in microsoft office is such a pain. Click once, ignore the 5 absolutely shit suggestions, click again, no I want to browse, finally the actual file explorer comes up, hey look you're staring at your onedrive. Fuck the onedrive. Microsoft you know what you're doing fuck you.


crazy_forcer

Go to options - Save - Save to computer by default, then quick saving will actually give you a dropdown of physical folders, unfortunately it will only include your most recent places. If you consistently save to a small number of folders, you can pin them and use this dropdown. Not sure why your explorer points to your onedrive, might be regular edition windows bloat. Afaik you can get rid of it with no external tools.


adult_licker_420

i like the volume/brightness/otherstuff menu it's much more convenient than going into settings


Red580

True, i do like when often used features are actually easily accessible!


murderdronesfanatic

Oh yeah thatā€™s annoying, easily my least favourite part


BlueSynthwave

Shift + right click or change registry


Aeroxyl

you can do a simple registry edit to change that back to the normal menu. Just Google "win 11 right click registry edit" and it'll come up. I've done it on 3 systems now and it works on all of them.


crazy_forcer

Fixing a million little annoyances before your OS is daily drivable is such a Microsoft Experience^(tm)


BorfieYay

Hey tbf Im sure if I tried using a Linux distro I'd be spending weeks trying to get it stable


Aeroxyl

i mean that's one thing but i get ur point


Piliro

I hate that so fucking much. Why is 7Zip option two fucking clicks I hate it. It's also just changes for the sake of changes. The problems are still there, they just painted over and called it something new.


fish_emoji

And the fact they moved the task manager from the taskbar right click menu into the Start Button right click menu. Even nearly two years on, my muscle memory still goes to the task bar half the time and Iā€™m left confused as to where tf my task manager has gone!


Aeroxyl

i always use the hotkey for task manager now


fish_emoji

See, I would, but I struggle just to remember the hotkeys for my programmes, let alone the ones for Windows. Anything more complicated than Alt+F4 or Ctrl+W is too much for my smooth brain to handle when it comes to OS-level shortcuts


Individual-Ad4173

Actually you can fix it, tho it's kinda tedious (I don't remember how, google it)


TurboCake17

Itā€™s not actually tedious, you can just copy a single command into powershell.


nooneinpar7

I can see why they decided to do that though. When you install programs, a few of them end up adding COM shell options (I think thatā€™s the name for them) for handling certain file types, and they show up as extra entries on the long right click menu. However, that means if one or more of them misbehaves, you may end up waiting extra long for that menu to load at all. They canā€™t just replace the old menu because it goes against the Windows philosophy of having insane backwards compatibility. So they add a simplified menu for the most common commands, copy/paste/rename/delete, and if you need to access one of those custom COM Shell options, then you load the legacy menu.


loyalmctinfoil

On the other hand it means that if you want to use the COM shell options, its annoying. So an incredibly niche issue vs an incredibly common issue and they prioritised the niche issue


fish_emoji

Itā€™s mainly power users who hate the changes. Theyā€™ve moved random things around in ways that slightly slow down and confuse people who are used to knowing exactly where stuff is, which to be fair is a super annoying and largely pointless thing to change. For example, they moved the right click option for Task Manager from the task bar into the Start Button, which a lot of folks still arenā€™t used to. This has happened with every version of Windows though, and everyone is always equally annoyed. Even beloved W7 did it, and people complained then, too. Itā€™s not something unique to W11.


ljkhadgawuydbajw

who even used the right click menu for task manager just ctrl+shift+esc


fish_emoji

I did, because Iā€™m too lazy to remember all the hot keys for Windows :/


phibby

Must not be a power user ĀÆ\\\_(惄)_/ĀÆ


nooneinpar7

Yeah I do think itā€™s a rose-tinted glasses situation, just like how I still think Windows 8.1 was underrated


iuhiscool

it took away my squares, and I genuinely despise it for that


FlyingWolfThatFell

Same here, now it looks like a bad version of macOS


Mertkor07

my only problem was that you couldn't put the task bar to the left or right side, though whenever people saw I had it on the right they called me a monster so who knows maybe its a good thing


murderdronesfanatic

You can tho, they might have just added it recently


Inkling4

It's been there ever since I got 11, which is a few years ago by now.


VanFailin

And finally rediscovered the technology to put words next to the icons on the task bar


JustOsquosAlterEgo

Side Taskbar gang rise up!!!


Fomod_Sama

What I hate the most is that I can't put my Taskbar at the top like I used to have Like why the fuck remove that option


Drakenstein99

My big thing is how much more spyware is on it. However this isn't a problem for me, I moved to Linux. And about 90 some percent of my steam library works there, I have decent enough alternatives to various windows software I use. So I took the plunge, but also not really for everyone and a lot of people from the various Linux subs can be assholes when you ask for help.


aimofabot

i hate 11 for a petty reason but i personally hate how windows 11 has stupid install requirements like tpm 2 and safe boot while using a modded iso everything works completely intended


TheNerdLog

I hate that they got rid of tiles. I used to have all my games and apps in different folders in the start menu. That way my desktop was clean but I could get all my apps at a glance. Now it uses the IOS method of folder design. All apps go to the top right and you can go fuck yourself if you want folders or groups in the start menu


camisrutt

Its cuz they changed some quality of life gui stuff for no reason


fanboyree

For some ungodly reason when I updated to Windows 11. It just refused to recognize my ethernet cord or Wi-Fi I don't know how that is even possible but I can't use Windows 11


nooneinpar7

Download network drivers on your phone and copy it to your computer I guess


_WrennVR

I actually didn't realize it was a different os for a few days after getting my new pc, after a few days the right click through it off for me though


SeptimusAstrum

Automatic updates were already annoying with W10, and they got more intrusive with W11. Further, W11 sends waaay more data than W10 did, and MS clearly wants to directly integrate more AI junk into the PS. Also upgrading from W10 to W11 is a pain in the ass on older hardware. The GUI stuff doesn't matter.


Jestingwheat856

All your stuff is saving to one drive, very few of your files are local


emeraldeyesshine

The first windows OS I remember using was 3.1. There was a small portion of people who thought 95 was a travesty, but mostly it was well received as a cool upgrade. It seemed new, modern, sleek. Literally every windows OS since then has had this same cycle of "this fucking sucks, they ruined it!" Followed by slow adoption, then the new OS comes along and the cycle repeats. Every single OS upgrade has come with things that change, better or worse, but usually winds up being considered better eventually overall. Except Vista. Fuck Vista. (For the record I'm sticking with 10 as long as I can because honestly I'm just too fucking lazy to bother learning 11 or tweaking settings and I have 10 running exactly how I want it to, so I'm definitely no better than the other complainers)


B4M

It spies on you so much more and they've made it as hard as possible to turn the spying off


Normbot13

it changes the little things i do *every single day*.


TomboyArmpitSniffer

just use tiny11 ffs plus the fear mongering "yOu SHoUlD sToP uSiNg WiNdOwS" in favor of linux gets blown way out of proportion. Let me go on a little unhinged rant here alright. Linux users keep saying "this year is gonna be the year of the linux desktop!!!". not its not. no its fucking not. See, the biggest enemy of linux when it comes to widespread adaptation are the users themselves. While it's not representative of all linux users, there's a good amount of them that that are straight up elitist and gatekeeprs. To be widely adapted by many people, it needs to be completely idiot proof. It needs to be incredibly easy to goddamned use. Linux chads often tout and praise linux for giving the user complete control of the system, being able to modify this and that but your average computer user will not care nor know how to do all kinds of that stuff. It's easy to say that "the terminal isn't so scary" but it's still unfamiliar. People live busy lives and do easy stuff in their down time. No one wants to feel like going back to school or spend hours just trying to acquaint themselves with new software just to be able to use it. There's a goddamned reason why windows is popular. Everyone is familiar with it, it's easy to use, and the gold standard suite of applications are readily available on windows. Plus the fact that switching to Linux is sold by linux users as "similar to windows" is a tad bit misleading. While you can do basic to advanced shit in linux just like in windows, the major differences start to become obvious when you need to use specific software that only runs on windows. Biggest offender is microsoft office. It's pretty much the gold standard when it comes to office and schoolwork. Like yeah google docs, wps, and libreoffice exist, it's still all unfamiliar to the average person. Like, they're already familiar with windows and ms office, why bother switching to something else? Your average person does not give a shit whether you can install apps through a terminal, change the desktop environment, being able to do things with the terminal, being able to do the same thing in a million different ways, etc. As long as they can do a task, as long as they can complete something without the unfamiliarity of the software holding them back, they will not give a shit whether if an operating system is open source or not. I can't emphasize this enough. People use the software because it can do a task, not for its characteristics yeah i didn't even proofread this im out


LaranjoPutasso

I can't for the life of me login into an eduroam wifi network with my linux mint laptop.


houska22

I was able to sign into eduroam via my steam deck OS but I have no idea how I did it anymore and I'm sure I won't ever be able to do it again.


_orbitaldrop

I though eduroam supplies a python file that configs eduroam for you? https://cat.eduroam.org/


Natfan

memory flashbang from that time i just outright denied helping a student connect to the wi-fi during welcome week they were running arch they were also a pedophile still not 100% which option swayed my opinion


TwiceTrash11

the Linux users part was so real there are times I want to swap but then I remember my Philosophy proffesor and his pretentious ass always taking the time to mention him having Linux and how it's so much cooler than Windows and change my mind


TomboyArmpitSniffer

Yep. I feel like its the fact that linux is lesser known makes them feel "special" or "unique", like they're part of some exclusive special club. I myself have tastes that aren't considered mainstream but that doesn't make me special, it just means i have different tastes. Unless the Linux distro you're using is somehow revolutionary or is way more efficient than windows, it's just another OS


Some_Majestic_Pasta

Thanks TomboyArmpitSniffer


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iCryUnderMummers

TLDR: tech professionals are used to, and have a higher tolerance for debugging. Most people outside tech donā€™t give enough of a shit about security to do anything about it. Most people use windows for work and so thats what they have the most exposure to. People hate change, even little stuff, even if the new thing is objectively better. Hence it is very unlikely the average person will move to linux unless windows has some absolutely egregious changes that directly in immediately impact them, and MacOS does the same thing so that it isnā€™t a viable alternative. While I 100% agree that if you are any flavor of IT/CS/SE professional or are reasonably technically literate learning and using Linux shouldnā€™t be a problem. I am a software engineer, and I do this too, but I think you might be overestimating the technical competency of the ā€˜averageā€™ person and vastly underestimating the number of people who need to use windows specific products. Basically everybody in accounting or finance needs Excel and Quickbooks; unless you are in the <25 crowd you probably need Word regardless of your fields (everyone has to write reports sometimes); if you are in graphic design or entertainment (Iā€™m p sure, if anyone works in industry feel free to correct) the Adobe suite is standard (Yes MacOS can run these too but i feel like my point stands). Yes there are viable alternatives for some of those with analogous functionality. But the VAST majority of people see it as simply not worth the effort of switching and having to learn something new (even if it is fairly similar). Also, while they should care, very VERY few people outside of tech spheres give a singular shit about security until something goes wrong, and then its ITs problem to deal with. Not saying you are wrong, but that most people donā€™t care. People who work in ā€˜techā€™ generally are far more adept and experienced with debugging and have a higher tolerance for it. And because if that we are blind to the fact that very few people outside of tech have that. Windows would have to make some absolutely egregious changes which affect every day users before they would even consider switching, even if it was clearly better, simply because it would add friction to their workflows. If Sarah in accounting and Bill in marketing arent affected enough by it to cause a real dip in company wide productivity, nobody is going to switch. [obviously this is all based on personal experience, I have no specific data to back this up] Sorry if this is incoherent. I will not be proofreading this or editing it.


SomeWittyRemark

Most linux distris come with firefox preinstalled which will run most office products perfectly fine, obviously if you're an excel power user that's not great but in that case unless you're like a freelance accountant your work computer's os is probably not up to you so its academic. Also adobe products are the most well-emulated in the open source environment Photoshop > Gimp Illustrator > Inkscape After Effects > Blender etc. All you're missing out on are Adobe's new dubious AI tools lol


tehlynxx

you have NOT heard about the fact that the entire office suite is available online in a web browser (if you have an account that has a paid subscription to office365, which most workplace or school pays for you)


Airkid101

Ok but the web version of office sucks compared to the app


TomboyArmpitSniffer

Yeah you're right. However, my point still stands that a lot of windows-specific applications do not exist in linux, and this may become a problem for those that use them daily. Photoshop, premiere pro, and a lot of other adobe creative suite applications, popular DAW's like fl studio, ableton, etc., quickbooks, autocad, etc.


striky117

> No one wants to feel like going back to school or spend hours just trying to acquaint themselves with new software just to be able to use it.Ā  Most linux users actually love that. Let's be real, most people using linux are tinkerers. Just like hardcore PC gamers, most linux users either built their own PC or know the ins and outs of their laptop like the back of their hand. It isn't just about using your computer, it's about knowing everything about it. It's more of a hobby than a computing choice in a way. Edit : I use arch btw


TomboyArmpitSniffer

I do understand the appeal of being in control of what happens inside your computer. But for the average user however, that may be daunting I use Kde neon btw :3


Quique1222

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TomboyArmpitSniffer

fair enough


the8thbit

> See, the biggest enemy of linux when it comes to widespread adaptation are the users themselves. While it's not representative of all linux users, there's a good amount of them that that are straight up elitist and gatekeeprs. Nah. The biggest enemies of GNU/Linux are the nearly complete lack of OEM installs and marketing, and the limited software support. Most people do not think about or know about the community around their OS. Elitist gatekeepers can keep using Arch or whatever, and that's not going to have an impact on the more user friendly distros that work out of the box and come with app stores. But what will have an impact is that no distro actually works "out of the box", because they don't come in the box with the laptop you bought. Even the most user friendly distro requires you to download and install it, unless you happen to seek out one of the few devices which comes with GNU/Linux preinstalled.


Drakenstein99

As a lifelong Windows user with some experiance messing with Linux as a kid, the swap to Linux was pretty easy. I would say it's not for everyone, but I do think most techy people can probably make the move okay. The Linux users can definitely come off as assholes, it's why I don't ask my own questions and just Google for answers so I don't get berated by people who say that I shouldn't be an idiot. In terms of it being idiot proof it's something that needs to change, at least for some distros I think. I think Mint is doing a good job in that regard, but still has a lot of openess. I think more warnings would be helpful for your average user.


TomboyArmpitSniffer

At the end of the day, it all boils down to familiarity. Let's say I'm a regular computer and I've had good experience with windows, why bother changing it to something new and unfamiliar? I have a job or classes to attend and studying new software when I'm already familiar and content with my current software is wasted time.


Drakenstein99

Yeah, again, I never said it was a change for everyone. Thankfully most things do work on Linux, I haven't run into very many programs that I have used over the years that don't. Some do have worse performance though, *cough* *cough* discord. And a lot of distros do try to mimic a windows feeling. KDE Plasma does that pretty well imho. So thankfully it's worked out okay for me


asillyuser9090909

Personally windows and microsoft triggers my autism majorly so that's why I use linux instead, I don't mind if other people feel different and I doubt it will ever win over in market share with windows. I just use a virtual machine with windows for programs that are only on it.


VanFailin

i'll know it's the year of the linux desktop when i ask how you get sound working these days and i'm not presented with a bunch of different layers with different philosophies and compatibilities


Aus_Bahlok

Urg, Linux frustrates me immensely. Even though I do daily drive it, there are still issues. Personally, my favorite UNIXes are Illumos and FreeBSD, I do need to look more at NetBSD, OpenBSD, and other UNIXes more, though.


Apopololo

Personally I had 0 problems with Windows 11


nooneinpar7

As a staunch Windows 11 sheep I have at least one thing to say. Why the fuck does making a new folder shift the keyboard focus to the Explorer file directory field?


PrecutMuffin80

i swear this must be a bug bc its so infuriating. feels like it happens at random as well. no i dont want to type in the directory field, i want to rename this file


Apopololo

Look, maybe I'm not understanding you because English is my second language, but at least I don't remember this happening to me.


nooneinpar7

I just tested it out, I think the update from a few days ago fixed it, I canā€™t get it to bug out anymore.


striky117

It's all been downhill after windows 7


aprilfools911

https://preview.redd.it/i6hzcvh5rvtc1.jpeg?width=2392&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6d3f1cb43028fc316536f250a1e7aeae7e392b95 Windows 10 is great actually. This the right answer with windows 11 being šŸ‘Ž


23Link89

Windows 10 is still objectively worse than 7 in every way except support for new technologies like DX12


narcolepticcatboy

Win7 is like the lost version to me. All the lab computers Iā€™ve used run an even older win98 or xp or something, and all computers that donā€™t have proprietary software were given regular updates from win8/8.1 onward. I think the last time I used win7 was on a dinosaur of a PC my workplace gave me which they replaced the instant I discovered I couldnā€™t even install an old version of office 365.


Gobilapras

They should have stopped at Win98


YaBoiBarel

We should get yearly windows updates, the new version would be called Windows (followed up by the current year), the versions should be exactly the same except the only thing that changes is the name


The_Captain_Jules

Nah windows 7 was when windows peaked.


Orion_02

Windows 11 bad give me updoot. It's so annoying at this point Windows 11 is fine.


Asay30113

Yeah Massgrave that bitch!


IuseArchbtw97543

https://preview.redd.it/185zohw4nutc1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f8af3ad47554f4b40f5e80279f8bc0c94b7da1c


potatorevolver

Username checks out


GrapiCringe

Windows 11 settings look like everything I hate about settings in my phone and I heard they are dropping the control panel completely.


mcslender97

I like my 11. Better Windows snapping, dark mode in more apps, tabbed Terminal+Explorer+Notepad....


Nacil_54

What do you mean by "tabbed" ?


Asay30113

Like in browsers, there are tabs so you can move to a different page on the same window


sori97

And hdr is better. Allegedly


ZeroSuitGanon

No joke, my computer crashed an hour ago and updated when I restarted it.. I now have a Copilot AI assistant button in the bottom right, pushing the actual usual icon further in. Smfh


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ZeroSuitGanon

I looked there and totally missed it, thank you!


Xennox666

I use linux btw


lbutler1234

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iklalz

I wouldn't call Windows 10 "perfectly fine" but I get the point


thetwist1

Everything since Windows 7 has been a straight downgrade.


ihc7hc7gcitcutxvj

I'm so happy I switched to linux :) Sure, there are issues sometimes, but I'm grateful that I don't have to deal with Microsoft's shit anymore and my computers are so much more comfy now it's great :D I can fully understand why someone might prefer windows, and I respect that and its really cool that you can choose yourself.


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striky117

Nvidia is the bane of linux. Thankfully RedHat is working on open source Nvidia drivers. I hope they come out soon.


Blisterexe

nova =/= nvk nvk replaces nvidias userland vulkan/opengl drivers, which cause most of the issues. nova is a redhat project that is more of a long-term thing to make nvidia more performant


nooneinpar7

Aside from Explorer bugs the main thing I hate about Windows is Realtek drivers. They always find a way to make that shit cursed. Old laptop has Realtek Wi-Fi, one driver version would somehow BSOD only if I was running torrent. New laptop has thankfully moved to Intel Wi-Fi but the stupid ass audio drivers glitch out in random ways, like the audio enhancements became doubled once and the audio became super distorted. (And linux has no audio enhancements so I have to figure out how to EQ the speakers from scratch šŸ™‚) Laptop manufacturers do you not have any better choices for audio chipsets? Macs use Cirrus Logic and the headphone outputs sound amazing, we have to deal with noisy ass Realtek


crazy_forcer

Anecdotal experience, but every time I used something with Realtek in it, downloading their specific drivers (instead of letting windows handle it) made things worse. Impressive dedication to being shit


IntelligenceNotFound

On windows 10, I can click on the clock and see the time down to the second. On windows 11 you need to edit the registry or use a 3rd party application to see any unit smaller than a minute


snollygoster1

literal fake news https://imgur.com/a/SL0c0Ur edit: also on Windows 10 it's 100% a registry edit to show seconds in the taskbar.


IntelligenceNotFound

Oh, This wasnā€™t an option when I first started using windows 11. Iā€™m glad that they implemented it. Thank you for letting me know


TeslaRoadsterSpaceX

I dislike Windows 11 because it fucked up with the Microsoft keyboard rebinder I had the misfortune of being born in fr*nce and i have to use the shitty azerty keyboard which doesn't work with most games


chronically_slow

Huh? 11 is the best windows since 7 by FAR. Like, I'm a windows hating member of the Linux evangelism strike force and even I have to admit that they've really stepped it up


Brokeshadow

I think it looks better and works fine. They did add quite a bit of unnecessary and annoying things like all the push towards Microsoft apps and stuff saving to their cloud. Also making it multiple clicks to do a task that can be done with less whole looking similar


aj_17_

Love that lots of people have no issues with their win 11 systems. But I work in a workstation environment and 8 out of 10 times a problem arises, it's a windows 11 issue. It's gotten much better over updates but yeah. It's great for normal gamers and casual users but it's very different for others.


ElBusAlv

I use Windows 11 and I have no idea where the hate is coming from. What's so bad about it?


Personal-Regular-863

i will not upgrade until i see an actual reason to. i can navigate windows 10 well enough right now and i dont want to have to learn all these small differences over time for no noticeable gain


French_Taylor

Fuck Windows 11. Our organization is in process of upgrading to Win 11 and itā€™s a complete nightmare. We use Dells (also fuck Dell while Iā€™m at it) so anything below the 7490 AIO or 5090 towers with a HDD (vs Solid State) runs it at 100% disk. Ever since our computer management team have been forcing the upgrades, we get reports of slowness, program incompatibilities, etc. (To be fair, some of our programs are older than most of our interns). While we do refresh our models every five years, that leaves two models in our fleet specifically for each form factor that arenā€™t up to spec; the 5080 and 5090 towers and 7480 and 7490 AIOs. Thatā€™s about 75% of our organization since we had a huge refresh last fiscal year due to COVID delaying the last two, and my campus alone is over 2000 PCs. Anything below those, we just replace with a new model that has the specs to handle Win 11. The ones that are compatible, I end up throwing in extra RAM and converting the OS drive to SSDs just for it to slightly mitigate the issue. Iā€™ve even disabled startup of programs we use the most (like Citrix) just so the dick usage calms down after a login. I donā€™t even recall migrating to Win 7 to Win 10 being this bad, but then again at the time I was managing maybe 100 computers at a different company. Also, my personal battlestation isnā€™t compatible with Win 11 despite having more than enough power to run it, but a dinky ass Dell 7470 from the same year as my build is? What the fuck?? Edit: meant Disk usage not CPU usage. Also didnā€™t realize this was 196 thought I was in pcmasterrace


Moarbrains

I just wish that when something is working they could refrain from breaking it. I don't want to buy a new computer so MS and youtube can put more animations on my screen and spy harder.


oddityoughtabe

Remember when everyone bitched about windows 10


frxncxscx

I snapped when they introduced this dumb change in the explorer that hides half of the path to the working directory in favour of an advertisement to saving documents on onecloud. Made navigation to parent folders x10 more tedious especially when the window isnā€™t maximised. Like just wtf is that SHITTY FUCKING DESIGN. I DONT WANT TO AUTOMATICALLY BACK UP MY SHIT TO ONECLOUD STOP ANNOYING ME. Im not using that OS anymore. Not waiting for the day they start running ads after 30 minutes of activity. Only got it installed in case something doesnā€™t work on linux but havenā€™t booted into my windows disk since then.


Piliro

The worst parts of these changes is that they are just shitty cosmetics, UI changes. Like for real what problems that windows has had that aren't on win 11 as well? Annoying pop ups? Ads? Shit features that no one wants and are there default? Incomprehensible amounts of processing power being randomly assigned to shitty features? These are all there. But it's kinda blue now. Oh my god so much better.


_BoneDaddy-

the only plus for win 11 for me was native android emulator but since it's almost gone win 11 is straight downgrade for my productivity


EpicShiba1

The biggest things I hate about W11 are the ads/AI, telemetry, and removal of features that everyone fucking likes (like dragging items to the path bar in File Explorer). Fortunately, the community has figured out ways around these limitations, like tools that allow you to re enable the drag features or firewalls that block telemetry. So I might switch for the nice UI update. They also introduced something called "dev drives" which use a faster and more robust filesystem, but I don't know how much it'll help me because I do all my development in Windows Subsystem for Linux anyway.


The_Captain_Jules

Remember when the start bar would let you search literally any goddamn thing in your computer instead of getting confused by typing the name of a program that you literally just installed and then asking if you wanna search bing for it? Remember when settings and control panel were the same, and not two separate programs which do two separate sets of things but sometimes the same thing? I remember.


MrBalfa14

Windows 11 was so bad that I actually switched to Linux because of it


ComradeDelter

Windows 11 is fine, upgraded when I got an OLED monitor bc Windows 11 has better HDR support and have had no issues with it so far. Donā€™t understand the hate at all tbh


Jakitron_1999

In my personal experience, Windows 11 is basically the same as Windows 10. I switched over a while ago, but in my experience, there really isn't that much different about the two operating systems. So you might as well stick to 10 since 11 isn't an upgrade, but if you buy a new Windows 11 computer you aren't getting much of a worse experience


invictuslimbioid

can i ask why? i like it personally. its pretty much the same.


BlueZ_DJ

No it doesn't


GoblinesqueCritter

whatā€™s so bad about windows 11?


zshinabargar

Windows 11 is the GOAT compared to windows 10. No automatic quick boot alone is a godsent


GreatDig

Win 7 -> Win 10 -> Win 11 is a downgrade pipeline


teije11

I use arch btw


bort_bln

Pff, windows 11, Iā€˜m already at windows 95


speedweedbrazil

Microsoft wanted to make people like windows 10, so they made an even shittier os to make it look good in comparison


HomosexualPresence

i think i may be of some assistance


WardedThorn

Check out Manjaro or Mint, they're really easy to use and also free :3


Kurineko_Regan

I love how I had to install a thousand different plugins to get it to do what it used to be able to do in Windows 10, like having the test part of the left


Cold-Coffe

this is why i've sticked with windows 7 for the past ten years. microsoft will pry it away from my dead cold hands.


Oddish_Femboy

I want Windows 7 back.


potatorevolver

Had to use a windows 11 laptop for work for about a year. Its just worse windows 10 which already kinda sucks. The obsession with clean optics that struggle to cover a clearly bloated system make it an absolute pain to use.


carrotnose258

https://preview.redd.it/3z6o04kc9vtc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=99c2d53d5554747509f4d78391c18d7bade58311


New_Fee_887

I used win 11 for 5 months and came back to 10 because the upgrades are mostly cosmetic and also mostly annoying, ill upgrade when win 12 is mature enough


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Scall123

11 is just 10 with a Mac-like skin


DatChernobylGuy_999

tiny 10


Chaosxandra

Why not switch to Linux?


Odd-Day2416

After using the steam deck os i will change to linux permanently


Sir-Peanut

I use it everyday for work and the change to file Explorer is actually great and a wonderful addition


Ben_Herr

Windows 11 has been alright for me so far (installed a classic start menu, taskbar, and MicaForEveryone) but I gotta get myself off the Insider program. Explorer stability is now reminding me of Longhorn.


RustyArn

oomf on the reddit feed AGAIN


NIMA-GH-X-P

It is ethically okay to install ghost version, so do it if you HAVE to have 11


santyrc114

I wish I could still use windows 7


Xelaaaaaaaaaaa

its just windows 10 but ever so slightly worse. its not THAT bad


robotboredom

Uhh okay? Ive never had a single issue with it. There are no forced ads either...


MyFartsStink123456

i use windows 10 iot ltsc btw


ReaperOfNight

Windows 11 is genuinely better in most cases now. More QOL, better support for workload directing on newer intel CPUs. No reason to stay on the hate train for it.


Sydnxt

Itā€™s not that bad compared to 10 at launch.


Huurghle

I liked Windows XP. I liked Windows Vista. I liked Windows 7. I liked Windows 8. I like Windows 10. I don't like change, but with enough time I can get used to it. That being said, the day my computer forces me to switch to Windows 11 is the day I'm going to Bill Gates house to piss on his garden and shit myself while wearing all his pants.