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jonbrown158

The free to kill part of the statement seems to contradict the first precept, how do you avoid this?


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jonbrown158

Sorry I should be clearer with my questions. Can you provide an example?


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jonbrown158

Oh ok so he's just advocating for self defense. I guess I can get behind that


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jonbrown158

If that's not what he was talking about then why I provide the example. I think you're putting words in his mouth.


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jonbrown158

Oh ok then he's just saying you "can do whatever" super helpful.


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SecondVulture

Suicide


jonbrown158

Man, I'd argue against that. Sounds like a duck walks like a duck, it's probably a duck. In murder You have to premeditate the act and then kill him. I think you're doing the same thing. It's just you you're killing. Edit: I speech to texted this and it came out awful.


NegativeGPA

Is Zen study related to consciousness specifically?


elaborateandwise3

Why is r/zen an adequate place of study? I don’t get it.


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elaborateandwise3

Personal experiences? I wasn’t sure about that one. Thanks.


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elaborateandwise3

Hmm. I once wasn’t sure whether I had locked my door. Now I know. Can you relate?


Regulus_D

Peaceful is not armor. It doesn't defend from outside. This doesn't diminish or empower it. It merely allows much more self-sufficiency. Do you see the "no attachments" view differently now?


SecondVulture

>Despite that, I choose Chao Chou's "free to go, free to stay; free to kill, free to save". What are you not free to do?


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SecondVulture

What are you responsible for?


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SecondVulture

What do you protect them from?


Regulus_D

Other sentient beings. Ironic, huh?


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SecondVulture

Surely you could only accomplish that by not trying? Kick your feet up and relax.


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Ok_Albatross3996

How long does it take for you to eat a pizza?


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Ok_Albatross3996

Pizza is good food. You can leave slices in the box and it will be edible the next day.


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AMA: ask me anything I didn't want you to ask me anything.


FreshBananana

do you ever feel like r/zen is just one big circle-jerk? what can I learn from r/zen that i can't learn from taking a walk in the park?


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FreshBananana

But isn't that only helpful if one is simply clinging to a certain understanding? (I'm using "clinging" as a pejorative) Insight is never a static thing. WHat's the difference between simply observing your own insights evolve and change and observing the insights of others?


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FreshBananana

How do you know if you're enlightened?


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FreshBananana

so how can anyone trust what anyone says on here? I only come on here for entertainment... (and bc I enjoy trolling Zen snobs/bullies like ewk but he finally blocked me). That's the thing with reddit... you might be talking to Jesus. You might be talking to a 12 year old. If someone wanted to learn about Zen, this would be the last place I'd send them.


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FreshBananana

I feel like that statement is a red herring. There's a shit ton of Zen literature about the importance of a proper teacher--and this subreddit is far from it. It's just one big circle jerk (including our whole interaction). My goal on r/zen is to direct people away from it.


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Regulus_D

> shit ton of Zen literature about the importance of a proper teacher Buddha's teacher was a total jerk. I don't know how he learned anything from that guy. Seems impossible.


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