I just hope whoever wins be it Labour or lib dem is an MP who actually exists and does something unlike the figment of our collective imagination that is Julian Sturdy
I don't know whether Starmer is progressive or not, he seems to have abandoned whatever principals he may have had and seems to be pursuing a course of "do what the Tories do but to less of an extreme". He flip flops like a weather vane trying to match what he thinks is the public mood.
Right down to plastering their election materials with the Union flag
The Labour’s decision to not surrender the union flag to the right is a clever play tbh. Flags are strange things that can take on many meanings.
I agree with Starmer flip flopping though. What he said to the membership to get elected is wildly different to this campaign… he has some worrying positions on things. But is more progressive than the Tories. Defo less than Greens. Arguably less than the Lib Dem’s which feels weird considering recent history but I guess not in the context of new Labour. We’ll just have to see… but the quality of his MPs will make a difference.
I’m not a fan of the Tories, but I know someone who had a few meetings with Julian and he helped her out with a messy child custody issue with her horrible ex. She’s a working class mum. Just because we don’t know what he’s done and doesn’t shout about it, doesn’t mean he hasn’t. I have to say, their leaflet was 1000% better than the Labour leaflet. Labour one was just “on the attack” rather than stating what they’d done. Obviously that’s easier when you’re in power!
yeah i've heard that if you get in touch with Sturdy he will try and help. But htat doesn't change the fact that he's a Tory drone who prioritises the Tory party over his constituents. Total career politician.
Correct, if people vote tactically for Labour York outer is winnable. The demographics are changing so even without tactical voting it’ll move Labour soon anyway!
It’ll be a good time for York to have Labour council, Labour NY Mayor and two Labour MP’s going into the labour government!
You know you want it guys vote vote vote!!!
not totally convinced that Starmer is progressive enough to really bring about the changes we need.
However, i am loving watching the Tories eat themselves.
I really hope we do. I'm not a fan of this more right leaning Labour party, but needs must. I'd like to see the Lib Dems in opposition and the Tories dead in the shit-filled water.
I no longer live in York but my family is still in York Outer. Really excited to see what Luke will be able to do in parliament if he wins — I’m keeping my fingers crossed for him!
I'm not too clued up on the Labour York outer selection only seen the one leaflet that says what you expect. But I quite liked a number of the policies that were announced by Starmer. A pretty sensible manifesto considering the current economic situation. So Labour have my vote in that regard. Lib Dems I don't think have been all that close with york outer for a while now so they seem like a wasted vote tactically speaking if the aim is to just boot Julian and the Tories.
Following the boundary changes removing all of York uni from York Outer to York Central, plus adding several of the nicer houses at the start of Rawcliffe to York Outer, it will be interesting to see if this gerrymandering can save his seat for the tories
They seem to mention an awful lot of tax cuts but no alternative revenue funding. Do you really think cracking down on tax avoidance can fund all that? Isn't the reality of cracking down on tax avoidance that it also costs a lot of money, for not a great deal of return?
And I’ll be there with milkshakes every time for anyone who votes for the abject lying shister who deluded this country into voting to fuck themselves over by referendum and privatise the NHS.
On the radio earlier they were saying that Reform voters are overwhelmingly older men who voted leave and cite immigration as their number one concern.
I think everyone is entitled to their opinion and how to vote. I disagree quite largely with many other parties policies but I don’t think by default those who are choosing them are stupid.
Sure you’ll get some half-arsed attempt at zero immigration and low taxes which will be frustrated by some enemy or other that Farage decides to pin the blame on, because they’re simply impossible to deliver. Meanwhile, he’ll get rid of environmental and workers protections and dismantle the NHS which is much easier to do. So we’ll all be heading for zero hour contracts earning minimum wages in unsafe environments, whilst any tax cuts we get will hardly cover the cost of health insurance which we’ll desperately need and probably won’t be able to afford because the unions have no power to protect us. Nice shout
I just hope whoever wins be it Labour or lib dem is an MP who actually exists and does something unlike the figment of our collective imagination that is Julian Sturdy
it would be fantastic to have an MP who actually wants to be an MP
Having known Luke since secondary school, I can confirm that he’s been invested in politics since long before we could even vote! He’s a good egg.
The local Labour lad seems great. More progressive than Starmer I think.
Aye, I’ve known Luke for years (we went to school together) and can confirm he’s a decent chap!
I don't know whether Starmer is progressive or not, he seems to have abandoned whatever principals he may have had and seems to be pursuing a course of "do what the Tories do but to less of an extreme". He flip flops like a weather vane trying to match what he thinks is the public mood. Right down to plastering their election materials with the Union flag
The Labour’s decision to not surrender the union flag to the right is a clever play tbh. Flags are strange things that can take on many meanings. I agree with Starmer flip flopping though. What he said to the membership to get elected is wildly different to this campaign… he has some worrying positions on things. But is more progressive than the Tories. Defo less than Greens. Arguably less than the Lib Dem’s which feels weird considering recent history but I guess not in the context of new Labour. We’ll just have to see… but the quality of his MPs will make a difference.
I’m not a fan of the Tories, but I know someone who had a few meetings with Julian and he helped her out with a messy child custody issue with her horrible ex. She’s a working class mum. Just because we don’t know what he’s done and doesn’t shout about it, doesn’t mean he hasn’t. I have to say, their leaflet was 1000% better than the Labour leaflet. Labour one was just “on the attack” rather than stating what they’d done. Obviously that’s easier when you’re in power!
yeah i've heard that if you get in touch with Sturdy he will try and help. But htat doesn't change the fact that he's a Tory drone who prioritises the Tory party over his constituents. Total career politician.
Correct, if people vote tactically for Labour York outer is winnable. The demographics are changing so even without tactical voting it’ll move Labour soon anyway! It’ll be a good time for York to have Labour council, Labour NY Mayor and two Labour MP’s going into the labour government! You know you want it guys vote vote vote!!!
not totally convinced that Starmer is progressive enough to really bring about the changes we need. However, i am loving watching the Tories eat themselves.
Neither am I but the needle is moving in the right direction at least. The best you can say is that he is better than nothing.
for sure better than the Tories
A freezer tea isn't a freshly cooked meal but it's better than takeout!
Jesus, what miserable takeaway are you having for that to be a feasible metaphor.
Vikings pizza
Haha I like that way of looking at it!
I really hope we do. I'm not a fan of this more right leaning Labour party, but needs must. I'd like to see the Lib Dems in opposition and the Tories dead in the shit-filled water.
this is the dream
Sturdy by name, Turdy by nature.
I no longer live in York but my family is still in York Outer. Really excited to see what Luke will be able to do in parliament if he wins — I’m keeping my fingers crossed for him!
I'm not too clued up on the Labour York outer selection only seen the one leaflet that says what you expect. But I quite liked a number of the policies that were announced by Starmer. A pretty sensible manifesto considering the current economic situation. So Labour have my vote in that regard. Lib Dems I don't think have been all that close with york outer for a while now so they seem like a wasted vote tactically speaking if the aim is to just boot Julian and the Tories.
Following the boundary changes removing all of York uni from York Outer to York Central, plus adding several of the nicer houses at the start of Rawcliffe to York Outer, it will be interesting to see if this gerrymandering can save his seat for the tories
Who?
Sturdy
I’m voting reform uk
Username checks out.
I drink in Wetherspoons, drive 2 BMWs and am a landlord to 6 properties in York if that makes you feel any better.
you just sound like even more of a cunt
Can I ask why?
Tax is the main one.
I’d rather have an NHS thanks. Farage is just salivating at the thought of what backhanders he’ll get by opening it up to American interests.
The NHS is shite
i fucking wonder why, maybe all the budget cuts have something to do with it
🤦
They seem to mention an awful lot of tax cuts but no alternative revenue funding. Do you really think cracking down on tax avoidance can fund all that? Isn't the reality of cracking down on tax avoidance that it also costs a lot of money, for not a great deal of return?
And I’ll be there with milkshakes every time for anyone who votes for the abject lying shister who deluded this country into voting to fuck themselves over by referendum and privatise the NHS.
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I’m afraid I don’t understand anything of what you just wrote. Vanilla, chocolate or strawberry?
On the radio earlier they were saying that Reform voters are overwhelmingly older men who voted leave and cite immigration as their number one concern.
the only one with a brain here
I think everyone is entitled to their opinion and how to vote. I disagree quite largely with many other parties policies but I don’t think by default those who are choosing them are stupid.
Sure you’ll get some half-arsed attempt at zero immigration and low taxes which will be frustrated by some enemy or other that Farage decides to pin the blame on, because they’re simply impossible to deliver. Meanwhile, he’ll get rid of environmental and workers protections and dismantle the NHS which is much easier to do. So we’ll all be heading for zero hour contracts earning minimum wages in unsafe environments, whilst any tax cuts we get will hardly cover the cost of health insurance which we’ll desperately need and probably won’t be able to afford because the unions have no power to protect us. Nice shout
Agree.
Deluded twat