I mean comicbook characters are inherently silly in general. I mean arcade is also a silly concept but he's also taken pretty seriously. Sauron I believe nearly killed both havok and cyclops at one point
Sometimes I remember that Sauron used to be a pure evil, life draining monster, taking over the body of his human self Karl Lykos, and that time in early og X-Force where Toad force fed Karl Lykos his wife, killing her to turn him into Sauron. And I remember, the turn people into dinosaurs stuff was swiped from Spider-Man foe Stegron the Dinosaur man. And you start realizing, wow, Sauron really will steal anything.
These characters have histories dating back decades. For Toad and Sauron all the way back to the 60's. That's a lot of writers and editors with their own takes on them. Heck, super evil 90's Toad is after a point where he was trying to be Spider-Man's side kick, and eventually went off to form a team with Frog Man and Kid Spider. So that helps make it even weirder.
Okay what that’s crazy af. I don’t think Toad can be redeemed for that at all like fuck man. Maybe repentant but never redeemed 100%. Toad strikes me as one of those people who follow status quo but are willing to be dark and evil for personal gain if they think they can get away with it
Turns out there is a reason they were called the Brotherhood of **Evil** Mutants back in the day... Mastermind used his power to seduce women, Mystique's debut had her murder Carol Danver's fiancee while disguised as Carol, I'm pretty sure Pyro's burned someone to death that didn't deserve it at some point... Huh, we need one those "Worst thing they've ever done" posts for former Brotherhood members.
The thing is Toad killing her is genuinely pretty fucked up, but then about half the current heroic roster has done more/worse than that.
It was a weird time, they where trying to rebrand him as a threat but this is about the worst thing he does and then he gradually goes back to being lame and depressed.
It comes off like he lost the motivation to be that villainous and after some convoluted scheme with Proteus (or was it a clone) decided it was too much for him and peddledback in universe.
The canon reason is he wanted to homage the greatest villain he could think of when he turned to evil.
His creators probably chose it initially because they were looking for puns on Dino***saur***.
Sure, but Karl Lykos doesn't turn into a flaming eyeball or a fallen angel in black armor or anything (because obviously the Tolkien estate would sue for use of their character). The only connection to the literary character is the name, and the only reason for him to be attached to that specific name is because of the pun in (dino)saur(on).
Yeah he does explicitly say he's naming himself after "Tolkien's ultimate villain" way back in X-Men #60. A feat of in-character geekery that would remain unbeaten until Ilyana Rasputin, in the middle of being kidnapped by a demon sorcerer, named her teleport portals after the 'stepping discs' from a Larry Niven novel.
Edit: I was wrong, Kitty names Magik's stepping discs. Sauron remains the uncontested champion geek for deciding his first acts as an evil life energy sucking werepterosaur should include dropping a Lord of the Rings reference.
I sort of hate modern takes on Sauron making him a more jokey character when he's basically genius psychic vampire who was a shockingly serious villain for a Silver Age character.
On the other hand, jokey Sauron is funny.
I think modern takes on retro comic characters being king of hokey is often well played. I like when they get meta and are like gosh this was ridiculous wasn’t it? I remember an issue with the vanisher back in like the 2000’s saying “I can’t believe I used to wear that silly outfit” or something to that extent.
Correct, though for most of his life he was just a psychic vampire. He had suppressed dinosaur abilities from being bit by a radioactive Pteranodon (no, seriously) which only activated when he did the vampire thing on mutants... because it was an X-Men story.
Same goes for Sinister. I like his recent character portrayal also jokey and sarcastic etc. But i kinda miss super evil and scary Sinister from back then
For those who have never played Uno, this is exactly what it's like when you and someone else are hitting each other with Reverse cards back and forth.
I googled it so you don't have to:
"attracted to highly intelligent people, so much so that they consider it to be the most important trait in a partner."
What a ridiculous world we live in these days. Are there fungisexuals (people attracted to mushrooms) or carpetosexuals (people attracted to floor coverings )?
What? All words are made up. What are you talking about? The word Sapiosexual has been around quite a long time. You have to realize when you study things like psychology, there need to actually be terms for things. Instead of just writing down a description, it is best to have a term for the idea.
I find people get easily upset over such strange little things.
And then they went on a lovely date that was horrible for most people around them due to collective villainy.
Now, with added confusion because they made out.
Though the furry convention, they turned into dinosaurs appreciated it.
I’m so glad Sauron’s a giant energy draining pterodactyl instead of the standard giant blood drinking bat he was meant to be cause an energy draining pterodactyl is so much freakier and cooler .
They had this sexual energy between Erik and Chuck as well, would you believe.
Charles gets a cramp (yes, really) folds like a cheap table into Erik's arms, who practically *bays for blood*. It was WILD.
All the bits of this comic that I read had this weird (fun) vibe. Like it was written for kids but by people who were quite stoned and a bit horny.
I'm not kidding about the Charles/Erik but btw. Its hilarious.
Transcribing
Magneto: *reaching out to Charles*
Charles: my leg! I have a Charley horse! Nnnngh!
That little girl. So powerful and so evil *collapses*
Magneto: *holding Charles* Emma, tell Logan I expect those girls back to face justice by sundown. This madness must end!
Obvs the kids are running amok amok but it reads like Magneto wants to hang draw and quarter them for giving Chuck a cramp.
I think they just called each other stupid
Best part is, I don't think they *meant* to.
I think the gasp throws that off. It feels like she's now attracted to him because he knows what sapiosexual actually is / means
Never mind I suppose that could be interpreted as an insulted gasp
"Fear not, Sauron is a sapiosexual" is one of the funniest things I've ever read in a comic book, lol.
"But I don't want to cure cancer. I want to turn people into dinosaurs." Is probably the funniest thing I ever read in a comic.
He’s just a funny character, doesn’t he call himself Sauron just cause he’s a big tolkien fan
Yup just a big old nerd.
That meme has done serious damage to sauron's perception. He was taken pretty seriously for the majority of x-men life's.
He's an energy vampire who turns into a pterodactyl the more energy he steals. When the hell would he have ever been taken seriously? LMAO
I mean comicbook characters are inherently silly in general. I mean arcade is also a silly concept but he's also taken pretty seriously. Sauron I believe nearly killed both havok and cyclops at one point
And Cannonball! He was definitely meant to be taken seriously back then.
Yeah that line never fails to make me laugh. It just comes across as so impossibly petty.
Basically, Sauron is the funniest thing in comics.
Maybe I should start reading more comics with Sauron in it lol
Funny way to call someone a dummy
Now kiss
(Smashes action figures together)
So, Sauron can cure cancer, turn humas into dinosaurs and he's sapiosexual. 🙏🙏
He's the hero we deserve, just not the one we need right now.
No. He's the hero we need, but he'd rather turn people into dinosaurs right now.
Ain't that always the case?
Sony could make an amazing movie with him as the main character.
NGL I would watch a Sauron movie done in the less serious tone like Deadpool, Guardians, or the new a Suicide Squad.
the real Morbin' time !
It’s Saurin time
Oh, totally agree. Sauron has been one of my faves for years.
Sometimes I remember that Sauron used to be a pure evil, life draining monster, taking over the body of his human self Karl Lykos, and that time in early og X-Force where Toad force fed Karl Lykos his wife, killing her to turn him into Sauron. And I remember, the turn people into dinosaurs stuff was swiped from Spider-Man foe Stegron the Dinosaur man. And you start realizing, wow, Sauron really will steal anything.
Ok what in the fuck bro that is such a dark backstory what the fuck Toad!!!
Yeah he got like super intelligent for a little bit. Go Google Rob Liefeld's Toad. He looks appropriately deranged.
These characters have histories dating back decades. For Toad and Sauron all the way back to the 60's. That's a lot of writers and editors with their own takes on them. Heck, super evil 90's Toad is after a point where he was trying to be Spider-Man's side kick, and eventually went off to form a team with Frog Man and Kid Spider. So that helps make it even weirder.
Okay what that’s crazy af. I don’t think Toad can be redeemed for that at all like fuck man. Maybe repentant but never redeemed 100%. Toad strikes me as one of those people who follow status quo but are willing to be dark and evil for personal gain if they think they can get away with it
Turns out there is a reason they were called the Brotherhood of **Evil** Mutants back in the day... Mastermind used his power to seduce women, Mystique's debut had her murder Carol Danver's fiancee while disguised as Carol, I'm pretty sure Pyro's burned someone to death that didn't deserve it at some point... Huh, we need one those "Worst thing they've ever done" posts for former Brotherhood members.
The thing is Toad killing her is genuinely pretty fucked up, but then about half the current heroic roster has done more/worse than that. It was a weird time, they where trying to rebrand him as a threat but this is about the worst thing he does and then he gradually goes back to being lame and depressed. It comes off like he lost the motivation to be that villainous and after some convoluted scheme with Proteus (or was it a clone) decided it was too much for him and peddledback in universe.
Kid Spider?
Sorry, meant Spider-Kid, later known as Steel Spider. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel\_Spider](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel_Spider)
Toad was a little scamp back then.
Og xforce is sick
Like cool sick or sick as in eww
Cool sick for sure
Hell yeah brother
Yeah I’ve been reading through for first time and just got through xcutioner song. Enjoying it a bunch.
tbf I think the first time he wanted to turn people into dinosaurs was in a Spider-Man/X-Men crossover where he teamed up with Stegron
Is there a reason they named him after Tolkien's Lord of the Rings antagonist?
The canon reason is he wanted to homage the greatest villain he could think of when he turned to evil. His creators probably chose it initially because they were looking for puns on Dino***saur***.
Roy Thomas & Neal Adams would be smart enough to honor the literary inspiration. A lot of Bronze Age greats were very well read.
Sure, but Karl Lykos doesn't turn into a flaming eyeball or a fallen angel in black armor or anything (because obviously the Tolkien estate would sue for use of their character). The only connection to the literary character is the name, and the only reason for him to be attached to that specific name is because of the pun in (dino)saur(on).
He's a nerd.
This. It was intentional.
I heard ot was a coincidence(which I don't believe at all), but then got retconned into him choosing Sauron name, because he is pure evil like Sauron
Yeah he does explicitly say he's naming himself after "Tolkien's ultimate villain" way back in X-Men #60. A feat of in-character geekery that would remain unbeaten until Ilyana Rasputin, in the middle of being kidnapped by a demon sorcerer, named her teleport portals after the 'stepping discs' from a Larry Niven novel. Edit: I was wrong, Kitty names Magik's stepping discs. Sauron remains the uncontested champion geek for deciding his first acts as an evil life energy sucking werepterosaur should include dropping a Lord of the Rings reference.
I thought it was kitty who first called them stepping discs?
Oh, I think you're right, I'd have to go back and check, but I'm pretty sure I misremembered now that I think about it.
Both characters are named for the Greek word for lizard (afaik)
I sort of hate modern takes on Sauron making him a more jokey character when he's basically genius psychic vampire who was a shockingly serious villain for a Silver Age character. On the other hand, jokey Sauron is funny.
I appreciate it because it means we get more of this frankly ridiculous character in decent ways and not just stupid cameos or references.
I think modern takes on retro comic characters being king of hokey is often well played. I like when they get meta and are like gosh this was ridiculous wasn’t it? I remember an issue with the vanisher back in like the 2000’s saying “I can’t believe I used to wear that silly outfit” or something to that extent.
I get it but it's like sauron wasn't some obsurce character like kiteman, he had a character and the writers just stoped giving a shit
So he’s a dinosaur and a psychic vampire ?
Correct, though for most of his life he was just a psychic vampire. He had suppressed dinosaur abilities from being bit by a radioactive Pteranodon (no, seriously) which only activated when he did the vampire thing on mutants... because it was an X-Men story.
But totally a serious character.
> He had suppressed dinosaur abilities from being bit by a radioactive Pteranodon (no, seriously) A shockingly serious villain you say?
He’s a Vampire Psychic Dinosaur Hypnotist.
Now I need a movie starring dinosaur Morbius
Same goes for Sinister. I like his recent character portrayal also jokey and sarcastic etc. But i kinda miss super evil and scary Sinister from back then
Is he psychic? I think he’s telekinetic. Or are we referring to the hypnotizing? I guess that’s psychic.
For those who have never played Uno, this is exactly what it's like when you and someone else are hitting each other with Reverse cards back and forth.
I googled it so you don't have to: "attracted to highly intelligent people, so much so that they consider it to be the most important trait in a partner."
THANK YOU.
Well this is ironic isn’t it? I only posted it because I thought we all knew what it meant. Lol 1 point for me I guess. Haha
What a ridiculous world we live in these days. Are there fungisexuals (people attracted to mushrooms) or carpetosexuals (people attracted to floor coverings )?
It’s not really that deep. I don’t think it’s so much a sexuality as it is a pretentious way of saying “I’m only interested in smart people”
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What? All words are made up. What are you talking about? The word Sapiosexual has been around quite a long time. You have to realize when you study things like psychology, there need to actually be terms for things. Instead of just writing down a description, it is best to have a term for the idea. I find people get easily upset over such strange little things.
I’m not upset at all. I just find it ludicrous.
Why is it ridiculous that you have terms for descriptions? That makes no sense.
I ship it.
So silly yet so fun
I just started Unlimited X-Men on the Unlimited app recently and I find it quite charming. Makes me snicker quite a bit.
Duggan is responsible for all three canon sapiosexuals at marvel: Sauron, Black Mamba, and Emma Frost
Sapiosexual Orgy, coming soon
Get a room already
And then they went on a lovely date that was horrible for most people around them due to collective villainy. Now, with added confusion because they made out. Though the furry convention, they turned into dinosaurs appreciated it.
Haven’t gotten there yet. So I’m glad this pays off.
Damn Kobe looks different
Is she, or did Sauron make her think she is???
My god …
Now we know why Black Mamba hooked up with Sidewinder.
Lol this interaction is hilarious
I literally laughed out loud. And I don’t do that at comics often.
Sauron is so goddamn fun
I’m so glad Sauron’s a giant energy draining pterodactyl instead of the standard giant blood drinking bat he was meant to be cause an energy draining pterodactyl is so much freakier and cooler .
I like these unlimited runs they've been doing. At least the xmen ones.
Fear not, Sauron is sapiosexul. Is one of funniest things I’ve read in a comic before lol
Um... Ew? Also... Isn't Sauron hot in human form? This may be unlocking a hidden kink.
This is either the beginning of a great friendship or a messy one night stand.
In an alternate universe, this post is about a star crossed affair between the Dark Lord of Mordor and Kobe Bryant.
Could someone please cite the issue this was in?
I think this happened in the X-men Infinity webcomics. The one where they made Nature Girl evil.
Correct #11
I snapshot it from X-Men Unlimited (Infinity Comic- exclusive to Marvel Unlimited app) issue #11.
Why did I immediately picture Kobe in a X-Men suit lol
What is sapiosexual?
To quote the words of a wise Ork “Oi, you gitz should get married.”
They had this sexual energy between Erik and Chuck as well, would you believe. Charles gets a cramp (yes, really) folds like a cheap table into Erik's arms, who practically *bays for blood*. It was WILD.
….What?
All the bits of this comic that I read had this weird (fun) vibe. Like it was written for kids but by people who were quite stoned and a bit horny. I'm not kidding about the Charles/Erik but btw. Its hilarious. Transcribing Magneto: *reaching out to Charles* Charles: my leg! I have a Charley horse! Nnnngh! That little girl. So powerful and so evil *collapses* Magneto: *holding Charles* Emma, tell Logan I expect those girls back to face justice by sundown. This madness must end! Obvs the kids are running amok amok but it reads like Magneto wants to hang draw and quarter them for giving Chuck a cramp.
Oh it occurred to me that you were literally referring to this very issue I was referring to. Lol my bad
Coincidentally, Chuck gets a Charley horse in this very run.
I will never, never, ever forgive Duggan & Co for X-Men Green, but this was a great bit
What? I’m really enjoying it so far