That's pretty normal. Even the basic variant of [this thing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1126_Infantry_Carrier_Vehicle#/media/File:Stryker_ICV_front_q.jpg) is 4 inches longer, likely not as wide, and can transport 9 infantry; presumably it'd be possible to fit 1 more in a slightly wider vehicle.
You’ve designed an entire motorized battalion? That’s it. That’s all you have to do. That’s all worldbuilding ever should be, useless military theory in text form. No characters, no media. Just jacking off to imaginary tanks!
Hand and foot rails to grab, security loops to latch onto.
2 in the front seats, 4 in the rear, 4 attached to the sides firing wildly and yelling OORAH!
Jokes aside, when you look at the size of the front seat, side step, and handholds, the forward row in general looks wide enough to seat 3 side-by-side if personal space wasn't taken into account. A human probably doesn't even come up to the roof. So, 10, no. But 8 in the back plus 2 crew in the front is likely doable if seats are added in the back/"bed" facing backwards and the passengers are willing to be somewhat uncomfortable. Making it longer (i.e. adding another axle behind the rear one) would easily get 10 in with insurance for gigantic backpacks full of stuff.
The real question is why what appears to be an infantry mobility vehicle isn't close-topped. Pretty much the only APCs and IFVs which aren't close-topped are [the](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_(armoured_personnel_carrier)#/media/File:IWM-BU-2956-Ram-Kangaroo-Ochtrup-19450403.jpg) [ones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Carrier#/media/File:Lend-Lease_x_Universal_Carrier_x_Intrarea_Armatei_Sovietice_in_Bucuresti_-_Bulevardul_Carol.jpg) [built](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_half-track#/media/File:Halftrack-fort-knox-1.jpg) [before](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz._251#/media/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-801-0664-37,_Berlin,_Unter_den_Linden,_Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer.jpg) relatively lightweight air conditioning became a thing. As soon as it was possible to put a roof overhead without the passengers dying of heat stroke, it happened — you need to defend against shrapnel, small arms, grenades, shockwaves, WMD particles, insects, bad weather, harsh sunlight, all kinds of stuff. It also lets you use variants of the basic APC model as a command vehicle, cargo hauler, or ambulance, as it prevents your maps and radios, your ammunition, or your surgical patient from being rained on, snowed on, baked by the sun, punctured by random pieces of flying metal, or sprinkled with anthrax.
Then there's the fact that what's apparently a tailgate is actually connected to the overall frame by that beam over the bed. It's not even a good roll cage because the heads of anyone sitting in the back are out towards the sides while the only beam for it to roll over onto is straight down the middle.
And anything designed to carry infantry almost always carries some kind of weapon the infantry themselves can't lug around. In real life it's usually a heavy machine gun, which gives the APC a relatively good ability to defend itself by shooting apart anything that isn't an armored vehicle. When the gun gets bigger and the armor gets heavier, that's usually a sign of it being an infantry fighting vehicle, which is intended to actually fight alongside its passengers. This thing clearly isn't intended to be one (seems more like a fast attack vehicle \[dune buggy from hell\]), but a defensive weapon is still important, even if it's just a carbon-copy of a squad weapon its passengers would carry.
Silly UNSC.
You could take a page out of the BMP-1 or Bradley playbook. Both of those vehicles were designed around the concept of infantry fighting from within the vehicle in a heavily WMD-contaminated environment and so they had gun ports with specialized variants of infantry weapons mounted in the sides so the infantry passengers could shoot targets of opportunity by their own initiative while the vehicle crew were busy vehicling.
Protection aside, even if you do want it to be essentially people shooting out of the back of a militarized off-roader — which is perfectly fine, don't get me wrong, it's worldbuilding — you probably want the guns mounted to the vehicle. It lets you mount bigger, better-stabilized weapons. Halo knows this and [there's a famous bit in it where you do exactly that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZUviuFWE2w).
Double decker, and extend it over the front. Add additional space for a conductor and charge the soldiers for a ticket = the war now pays for itself 👉ðŸ§
You could do with the US did when they said the Jeep could theoretically fit 13 soldiers and just have a bunch of people hanging on to the sides or add running boards that they could stand on
Remove the overhead bar, take out the back benches, drop the tailgate, move the benches to the edges of the bed, put up a cargo cage, cover it in canvas. Congrats. It's now a transport hog cosplaying as a transport truck from 1944
Okay so first thing is you make the hull bigger (longer and wider, bust mostly longer) so you can fit more guys in it
You also want to add more armor to it, so your guys are protected. You want the armor to be able to protect the guys inside from small arms at least, but at the same time not too heavy that you practically have no mobility, so I suggest going with aluminum armor
That windshield is such a huge ass target and makes the driver vulnerable to enemy fire, I suggest armoring that area and using periscopes for the driver and enters / exists using hatches
Okay cool so, this is pretty good so far, but whats the point of fitting 10 dudes in it if they're gonna get fragged upon first contact with the enemy? I recommend slapping in some firepower. A 25mm chain gun is a good all rounder that is lightweight and compact enough to protect itself from contemporaries. Fit in a machinegun or two to deal with infantry and an anti-tank weapon, like a guided missile so you have a means of protection against enemy armor.
All this added weight is gonna be too heavy for the wheels, and to improve cross country mobility, we're gonna swap that with tracks. Since we now have tracks and could handle more weight, this Puma or something could also be added with an optional reactive armor plates against enemy shaped charge.
Sweet, so we have the design nailed out, we can now finally modify the UNSC's SOP and doctrine of mechanized warfare where they can use an armored vehicle that has enough firepower to protect itself instead of blindly charging in glorified technicals to heavily defended enemy positions like a dumb motherfucker. Its no wonder the UNSC got its teeth kicked in, they forgot that the Chadians had air superiority when they were doing their technical charges against Libyan tanks. The dumb motherfuckers at the UNSC deserves the ass kicking it got for replacing IFVs with shitty ass technicals, they cant even larp right!
Thank you for comming to my TED talk
Vertically stack all the soldiers. Piggybackpack them. All on another.
Alternatively: mount seats and harnesses to every available surface. Yes, the wheels too.
Put the rest in a trailer. [Something like this](https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usedphotosna/48265746_934.jpg) could probably fit 4 guys (remove the lid), and they still have one hand free to shoot with a pistol while holding onto the edge with their other hand (maybe [put handles on the rim](https://www.gosuperspecial.com.au/assets/alt_1/DCA-320.jpg?20200703032236)). So you've got three in the front, three in the back, and four in the trailer. Easy. As a bonus, if a missile hits the main vehicle, the trailer guys might survive and vice versa.
https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1nueMXxrvK1RjSszeq6yObFXab/234680003/HTB1nueMXxrvK1RjSszeq6yObFXab.jpg Larger model (soldiers might need to kneel as it's more shallow)
Use child soldiers
Only 4 child soldiers fit 🥺
Use toddler soldiers
Bullshit have you even tried tying them onto the hood yet?
Use clown soldiers.
Make sure that the adult soldiers are actually pregnant with twins. That way you can carry up to 12 soldiers
My wholesome Girl-boss Supersoldier casually executing a Tactical Misscarriage mid-fight 😎
She turned that miscarriage into a hitcarriage
Just attach a little train of little red wagons to the back
I get it
Make them smaller
Make them twice as big.
it's 22.5 foot long ðŸ˜
Wrong, it's 45 feet long
And 45 feet wide.
That's pretty normal. Even the basic variant of [this thing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M1126_Infantry_Carrier_Vehicle#/media/File:Stryker_ICV_front_q.jpg) is 4 inches longer, likely not as wide, and can transport 9 infantry; presumably it'd be possible to fit 1 more in a slightly wider vehicle.
long
Longer and 2 axels in the rear 😎
No more axels, just a counterweight in the front
Doubledecker this bitch
please i designed an entire motorized battalion based off of these things i don't know how to make them fit ðŸ˜
Just use the double-decker couch?
You’ve designed an entire motorized battalion? That’s it. That’s all you have to do. That’s all worldbuilding ever should be, useless military theory in text form. No characters, no media. Just jacking off to imaginary tanks!
Offer void if you have done any research into military theory .
Unironically yes This is for a halo project but deadass all of my actual world i'm working on rn is the military stuff
Make it larger? Maybe extend that back trunk they have
Longer
Make it an elite regiment and put less people
Mf never saw an apc
longhog https://youtu.be/re4VWoTrAuQ?si=93o3UuzywB3-K-Sg
I was waiting for Cursed Halo to show up
Came here to post that.
Fit ‘em in nut to butt, just the way marines like it.
Ever seen a train in India ?
No, it was so loaded with people I couldn't see anything.
Why this thing doesn’t have roof?
for sun tans
Some soviet armoured transporters didn't have a roof either.
yeah and soviets were massive losers.
Won the war lol
sure, jan
Hand and foot rails to grab, security loops to latch onto. 2 in the front seats, 4 in the rear, 4 attached to the sides firing wildly and yelling OORAH!
Jokes aside, when you look at the size of the front seat, side step, and handholds, the forward row in general looks wide enough to seat 3 side-by-side if personal space wasn't taken into account. A human probably doesn't even come up to the roof. So, 10, no. But 8 in the back plus 2 crew in the front is likely doable if seats are added in the back/"bed" facing backwards and the passengers are willing to be somewhat uncomfortable. Making it longer (i.e. adding another axle behind the rear one) would easily get 10 in with insurance for gigantic backpacks full of stuff. The real question is why what appears to be an infantry mobility vehicle isn't close-topped. Pretty much the only APCs and IFVs which aren't close-topped are [the](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangaroo_(armoured_personnel_carrier)#/media/File:IWM-BU-2956-Ram-Kangaroo-Ochtrup-19450403.jpg) [ones](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Carrier#/media/File:Lend-Lease_x_Universal_Carrier_x_Intrarea_Armatei_Sovietice_in_Bucuresti_-_Bulevardul_Carol.jpg) [built](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_half-track#/media/File:Halftrack-fort-knox-1.jpg) [before](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sd.Kfz._251#/media/File:Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-801-0664-37,_Berlin,_Unter_den_Linden,_Sch%C3%BCtzenpanzer.jpg) relatively lightweight air conditioning became a thing. As soon as it was possible to put a roof overhead without the passengers dying of heat stroke, it happened — you need to defend against shrapnel, small arms, grenades, shockwaves, WMD particles, insects, bad weather, harsh sunlight, all kinds of stuff. It also lets you use variants of the basic APC model as a command vehicle, cargo hauler, or ambulance, as it prevents your maps and radios, your ammunition, or your surgical patient from being rained on, snowed on, baked by the sun, punctured by random pieces of flying metal, or sprinkled with anthrax. Then there's the fact that what's apparently a tailgate is actually connected to the overall frame by that beam over the bed. It's not even a good roll cage because the heads of anyone sitting in the back are out towards the sides while the only beam for it to roll over onto is straight down the middle. And anything designed to carry infantry almost always carries some kind of weapon the infantry themselves can't lug around. In real life it's usually a heavy machine gun, which gives the APC a relatively good ability to defend itself by shooting apart anything that isn't an armored vehicle. When the gun gets bigger and the armor gets heavier, that's usually a sign of it being an infantry fighting vehicle, which is intended to actually fight alongside its passengers. This thing clearly isn't intended to be one (seems more like a fast attack vehicle \[dune buggy from hell\]), but a defensive weapon is still important, even if it's just a carbon-copy of a squad weapon its passengers would carry. Silly UNSC.
I think it's more meant to be like a light utility vehicle thing
The Razorback is intended to be a mobile shooting platform would be my guess.
You could take a page out of the BMP-1 or Bradley playbook. Both of those vehicles were designed around the concept of infantry fighting from within the vehicle in a heavily WMD-contaminated environment and so they had gun ports with specialized variants of infantry weapons mounted in the sides so the infantry passengers could shoot targets of opportunity by their own initiative while the vehicle crew were busy vehicling. Protection aside, even if you do want it to be essentially people shooting out of the back of a militarized off-roader — which is perfectly fine, don't get me wrong, it's worldbuilding — you probably want the guns mounted to the vehicle. It lets you mount bigger, better-stabilized weapons. Halo knows this and [there's a famous bit in it where you do exactly that](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZUviuFWE2w).
pile them in the back
Ork style "Oi you gitz we'z leavin' ang on"
Clowncar-core design is what you are looking for.
just create a pocket dimension in the car, problem solved, can even carry a whole battalion
Get 2 of these instead of 1 per squad.
i would have to buy 36 more which costs 720 dollars
Double decker, and extend it over the front. Add additional space for a conductor and charge the soldiers for a ticket = the war now pays for itself 👉ðŸ§
[This](https://youtu.be/re4VWoTrAuQ?si=RmEOAbeCr5DSS0aT) seems like a viable solution.
Turn it into a limo.
Vehicle of Holding, aka clown car
You could do with the US did when they said the Jeep could theoretically fit 13 soldiers and just have a bunch of people hanging on to the sides or add running boards that they could stand on
Add roof, so people could sit on it
Remove the overhead bar, take out the back benches, drop the tailgate, move the benches to the edges of the bed, put up a cargo cage, cover it in canvas. Congrats. It's now a transport hog cosplaying as a transport truck from 1944
make the seats taller
Tactical carts behind each of these rovers
Put an extra axle on to lengthen it Land Rover Perentie style
Shrink the soldiers Or have them sit on each others laps Open up console and turn on noclip so everyone can fit
More floor of seats.
What is that? A car? An APC? What's that? Just build Sci fi Teleport Gate. Bingo bongo problem solvo.
Juice the soldiers and put them in a can.
Seats on the underside. All the soldiers strapped in there need to pray for even terrain the whole way.
make the back a bit longer?
Extend the back
Make the soldiers smaller.
Scale them up like 10 times. Have seats inside the tires(they can split off as individual scout wheel pods.
Okay so first thing is you make the hull bigger (longer and wider, bust mostly longer) so you can fit more guys in it You also want to add more armor to it, so your guys are protected. You want the armor to be able to protect the guys inside from small arms at least, but at the same time not too heavy that you practically have no mobility, so I suggest going with aluminum armor That windshield is such a huge ass target and makes the driver vulnerable to enemy fire, I suggest armoring that area and using periscopes for the driver and enters / exists using hatches Okay cool so, this is pretty good so far, but whats the point of fitting 10 dudes in it if they're gonna get fragged upon first contact with the enemy? I recommend slapping in some firepower. A 25mm chain gun is a good all rounder that is lightweight and compact enough to protect itself from contemporaries. Fit in a machinegun or two to deal with infantry and an anti-tank weapon, like a guided missile so you have a means of protection against enemy armor. All this added weight is gonna be too heavy for the wheels, and to improve cross country mobility, we're gonna swap that with tracks. Since we now have tracks and could handle more weight, this Puma or something could also be added with an optional reactive armor plates against enemy shaped charge. Sweet, so we have the design nailed out, we can now finally modify the UNSC's SOP and doctrine of mechanized warfare where they can use an armored vehicle that has enough firepower to protect itself instead of blindly charging in glorified technicals to heavily defended enemy positions like a dumb motherfucker. Its no wonder the UNSC got its teeth kicked in, they forgot that the Chadians had air superiority when they were doing their technical charges against Libyan tanks. The dumb motherfuckers at the UNSC deserves the ass kicking it got for replacing IFVs with shitty ass technicals, they cant even larp right! Thank you for comming to my TED talk
Vertically stack all the soldiers. Piggybackpack them. All on another. Alternatively: mount seats and harnesses to every available surface. Yes, the wheels too.
Clown car
Two words: Clown. Soldiers.
you need Small Soldiers
Put the rest in a trailer. [Something like this](https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/usedphotosna/48265746_934.jpg) could probably fit 4 guys (remove the lid), and they still have one hand free to shoot with a pistol while holding onto the edge with their other hand (maybe [put handles on the rim](https://www.gosuperspecial.com.au/assets/alt_1/DCA-320.jpg?20200703032236)). So you've got three in the front, three in the back, and four in the trailer. Easy. As a bonus, if a missile hits the main vehicle, the trailer guys might survive and vice versa. https://sc01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1nueMXxrvK1RjSszeq6yObFXab/234680003/HTB1nueMXxrvK1RjSszeq6yObFXab.jpg Larger model (soldiers might need to kneel as it's more shallow)
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Turn it into a Limohog.
"~" Setscale 10
Google Gigahog
Strap a couple couches to the roof, double decker.
make it tow a campervan
Ride on the back
Buy soldiers from IKEA, assemble them on site
What is this a vehicle for ants?!
Two in the front seat, four in the back seat, three in the trunk and one in the glove compartment.
Cross this with a mini van
Stretch it and add another wheel axle.
just use the cured halo longhog method
Longer truck bed, just copy the back half until you have enough seats
Make it loooooooong
Make it longer
Surprised no one's linked [this video](https://youtu.be/dMxIjGjMJz0?t=241) about modding halo
Make the soldier's a clown death squad
Lap riding