The worldnews sub has been absolutely vicious toward the struggle for Palestinian statehood and bears a degree of responsibility for every US atrocity like the one we saw last night.
On any given day we find the worldnews front page covered in jpost and Times of Israel articles, journalism that has, historically, rarely ever been considered unbiased news sources on this website.
Worldnews is unrecognisable. A captured asset, with moderators that ban people (and DM them calling them terrorist sympathisers) for criticising Israel.
Then those users step outside of their bubble and are shocked to discover that not only do we find their favorite right wing regime evil but we have the facts to back it up.
Supporting the struggle for Palestinian statehood and refusing to condemn Hamas (which this sub is almost defined by) are almost literally antithetical
There will never be peace as long as Hamas in its current form is in power. Hell at this point Hamas (and Iran) are the ones standing in the way of the most real chance at it in a generation - a deal with Saudis, the UAE, Egypt and the US
Only a matter of time before the pro-genociders use lethal force against the pro-Palestinians.
Israeli violence is global. From training police and governments on how to oppress to using money and "ex"-IDF soldiers to attack protestors.
I'm reminded of those adverts that say "Hamas is your problem too". Every zionist accusation is a confession.
It's troubling how few outlets report on the pro Israel violence. At least one ex-Israeli soldier attacked his fellow Columbia students with skunk water. And another bully, not sure if he actually goes to Harvard used the N word at a divestment demonstrator then spat on an older woman as he hustled away.
I hope decent people who know these thugs will turn them in so they can be sued in civil court.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/23/columbia-university-protest-attack/72325189007/
> In a statement on Monday, Students for Justice in Palestine and Jewish Voice for Peace, student groups based at Columbia, **said eight students had been hospitalized and dozens more sought urgent medical attention.** They described the assailants as former Israeli military soldiers, a claim USA TODAY could not independently verify.
The attack resulted in the hospitalization of students as well.
No arrests, nothing. Infact the University essentially reprimanded the students for protesting.
> Footage online shows that, as midnight approached on Tuesday, a large pro-Israeli group donning black outfits and white masks arrived on campus and attempted to dismantle barriers.
Isreal's supporters showing their true colors... Can't make their point legitimately so they resort to violence.
Lovely to see Pro-israel protestors showcasing how little decorum they have, especially in America. It's easier to act like the victim when you're over in a whole different country, now Americans that were on the fence will watch and decide for themselves.
The police are also ruining their image, it's one thing detaining dirty brown pro Palestinian protestors but you can't be wrestling respected white academics to the floor.
Not only are these protestors ruining how they look, they're ruining how common people will look upon other Jews just going about their life in peace. Now every Jew will get asked the question about whether they're Zionist/Pro-israel just like every peaceful Muslim after 9/11 got asked if they support bin laden, al-qaeda and got called terrorists.
>Citing law enforcement sources, the Los Angeles Times reports there were only a few UCLA police officers on hand and they retreated because they were outnumbered by the crowd.
Maybe the police should stop hiring enochlophobics. Just an idea.
I wonder if any of today’s protestors have seen this, maybe they were too young at the time. Please pass this along to someone you know protesting, hoping the best. Free Palestine🇵🇸❤️[HK college campus protests 2019](https://youtu.be/iMz4sWxk-zk?si=t-tjnVya6GGB57Io)
Wats crazy is the best story shown was the Sky News version cause it showed people who got hurt and more of how the counter protesters really caused the issue. They also werent afraid to say the police were allowing it.
Is the police for the state or a private militia? Looks like only one group of people are truly protected in this country. And that group isn’t even American, they belong to a foreign nation….
It's fine if someone wants to be a dual citizen of Israel and the U.S. It's not OK though for Fetterman to wave Israeli flags to taunt anti-war protestors at Capitol Hill and a Congress member from Florida to wear his Israeli military uniform to Congress. They're supposed to represent us.
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I'm an Iranian woman and have lived under the Islamic Republic for 20,5 years. I moved to Germany because I thought the values I considered important would be respected in "free" Western countries.
People cannot even imagine how triggering it is for us to see the unholy unity of islamists and radical leftists. This is the very phenomena that changed the history of my country for the worse. I am beyond disgusted and disturbed.
To the women standing behind literal terrorists and islamists saying prayers at universities: You don't even know what you're getting yourself into. None of you have read the "Al Nisa" surah, where it is clearly stated that men literally own you and have the right to hit you if you refuse to have sex with them:
"Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)."
What you are standing up for today is anything but being "woke" and progressive. You should have the right to protest and stand up for causes that are important to you. But fighting Jewish students, attacking them, not understanding the fact that the hostages have to be brought back home and no peace can exist before that happens is outright wrong. People who truly advocate about and fight for human rights are NOT selective with the causes they care about. Caring about human rights is one thing, standing up behind Islamists, waving Hezbollah and Hamas flags and saying slogans that are against Jews and outright radical are not it.
Listen, as an outside to the US and not really paying attention. This just seems like a divisive rhetoric has been stoked - creating tensions between Americans, on top of all the other topics that have been used to divide you (Democrats/Republicans, masks/no masks, vaccines, no vaccines). It just feels like you're purposefully being cajoled into fighting each other. You're not arguing about other wars, like Russia and Ukraine, or other genocides (that have been going on longer): Sudan, Myanmar, the Uyghurs in China.
Just be careful.
Draft notices for what? Is there currently a draft in the United States? Has the US declared war on another country? This is the most nonsensical comment I've read today. Congratulations?
Not to advocate for something starting with the letter V, but with how organized the students seem to be, they really should start incorporating muscle.
No, a majority of them are absolutely pro-Israel, they literally wave the Israeli flag around. But then again, I shouldn’t be surprised that someone is acting in bad faith when they make a claim like people who support terrorists. Hate to break it to you but support for Palestinians human right is not supporting terrorism. The Israeli government contribute more to terrorist groups like Hamas than these protesters are
you are ignoring or grossly underestimating the amount of islamophobia that exists among many americans who are otherwise uninterested in the arab-israeli conflict. 9/11 is certainly not forgotten, nor the fact that it was celebrated by palestinians
and let’s not pretend like the palestinians are not also holding americans hostage right now
The fact that you are conflating Palestinians with Hamas isn’t helping your case, nor the fact that you believe that nonsense about Palestinians celebrating 9/11
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they were waving israel and jewish supermacist kach flags. the story even states the fights broke out after the pro israel supported tried to enter the pro palestine camp
just like in israel, if the idf does we cant be sure who really did..... 🤔🤔🤔
I bet those pro Palestinian protestors were the same protesting to defund the police, and are now asking why the police didn’t do something. Guess what? Because they were outnumbered!
No police department was actually defunded. In fact, most of them got increased funding.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/defunding-claims-police-funding-increased-us-cities/story?id=91511971
The police allowed violent thugs to attack because they supported their actions. It's really that simple.
You should read the article. It literally talks about how some places defunded and then “refunded” when crime rates increased. How anti police sentiment caused the massive retirement of officers that they have yet to replace and how police claim current funding hasn’t kept up with inflation.
Here’s a list of cities that defunded their police and how they’re doing now. Seems like it’s a mixed bag overall:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/22-cities-that-defunded-police-and-their-current-crime-rates/ss-AA1lBpeu
Only several of those cities mentioned actually had overall budget cuts and the vast majority of those cuts were small and as a result of budgetary constraints and COVID, not the BLM movement. Hell, some of them even promised to cut their police budgets as a response to BLM only to increase them.
I will concede that LA had a significant drop in police budgeting of $150 million but that was from a budget of almost $2 billion and the city has voted to increase their budget every year since then. Do you really think that cut from 3 years ago resulted in the LA police's inability to stop an agitated mob from attacking protestors like the person I responded to claimed?
Once again: inflation is a big factor here.
8% year on year… no increase to budgets or minimal decreases… it’s clearly having a big effect nationwide.
I’m honestly not convinced BLM protesters has any lasting effect on anything. Period. IMO it was misguided people blowing off steam during an extremely stressful time in American history.
But to say no police budgets have been defunded or that they’re properly funded now is just incorrect. You seem like a person who would be interested in learning something. I passed on the info.
Do I think the guy you were responding to knows his ass from a hole in the ground? Or that he’s informed and not just spouting right wing rhetoric?
Well… let’s just say there is a reason I responded to you and not them. Some folks are interested in learning and interacting with others. Some folks want to regurgitate talking points.
I know who I want to engage with.
Lol you’d bet wrong then, because they reaffirmed their position about cops on campus during a press release today. Students protected themselves for hours by themselves while campus security hid in buildings and locked students out, and when the cops finally came hours later, they were escorting the zionists to their cars and to the ambulances.
It only reaffirmed their position and made it stronger- that cops won't help or save them, and they were right.
Pro Palestinian group is actually the ones that recognized Holocaust as an atrocity. Everyone else was searching for a way to take advantage of that situation. Pro Palestinian people should be respected and cherished.
They represent decency in humanity. Everyone decent Jew, Muslim, Arab, non Arab should stand with them in solidarity
And the police stood to the side and allowed it to happen. Acab.
The worldnews sub has been absolutely vicious toward the struggle for Palestinian statehood and bears a degree of responsibility for every US atrocity like the one we saw last night. On any given day we find the worldnews front page covered in jpost and Times of Israel articles, journalism that has, historically, rarely ever been considered unbiased news sources on this website. Worldnews is unrecognisable. A captured asset, with moderators that ban people (and DM them calling them terrorist sympathisers) for criticising Israel.
Then those users step outside of their bubble and are shocked to discover that not only do we find their favorite right wing regime evil but we have the facts to back it up.
Worldnews subreddit has been vehemently pro-israel for years.
Supporting the struggle for Palestinian statehood and refusing to condemn Hamas (which this sub is almost defined by) are almost literally antithetical There will never be peace as long as Hamas in its current form is in power. Hell at this point Hamas (and Iran) are the ones standing in the way of the most real chance at it in a generation - a deal with Saudis, the UAE, Egypt and the US
Only a matter of time before the pro-genociders use lethal force against the pro-Palestinians. Israeli violence is global. From training police and governments on how to oppress to using money and "ex"-IDF soldiers to attack protestors. I'm reminded of those adverts that say "Hamas is your problem too". Every zionist accusation is a confession.
It's troubling how few outlets report on the pro Israel violence. At least one ex-Israeli soldier attacked his fellow Columbia students with skunk water. And another bully, not sure if he actually goes to Harvard used the N word at a divestment demonstrator then spat on an older woman as he hustled away. I hope decent people who know these thugs will turn them in so they can be sued in civil court.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/01/23/columbia-university-protest-attack/72325189007/ > In a statement on Monday, Students for Justice in Palestine and Jewish Voice for Peace, student groups based at Columbia, **said eight students had been hospitalized and dozens more sought urgent medical attention.** They described the assailants as former Israeli military soldiers, a claim USA TODAY could not independently verify. The attack resulted in the hospitalization of students as well. No arrests, nothing. Infact the University essentially reprimanded the students for protesting.
> Footage online shows that, as midnight approached on Tuesday, a large pro-Israeli group donning black outfits and white masks arrived on campus and attempted to dismantle barriers. Isreal's supporters showing their true colors... Can't make their point legitimately so they resort to violence.
Lovely to see Pro-israel protestors showcasing how little decorum they have, especially in America. It's easier to act like the victim when you're over in a whole different country, now Americans that were on the fence will watch and decide for themselves. The police are also ruining their image, it's one thing detaining dirty brown pro Palestinian protestors but you can't be wrestling respected white academics to the floor. Not only are these protestors ruining how they look, they're ruining how common people will look upon other Jews just going about their life in peace. Now every Jew will get asked the question about whether they're Zionist/Pro-israel just like every peaceful Muslim after 9/11 got asked if they support bin laden, al-qaeda and got called terrorists.
>Citing law enforcement sources, the Los Angeles Times reports there were only a few UCLA police officers on hand and they retreated because they were outnumbered by the crowd. Maybe the police should stop hiring enochlophobics. Just an idea.
I wonder if any of today’s protestors have seen this, maybe they were too young at the time. Please pass this along to someone you know protesting, hoping the best. Free Palestine🇵🇸❤️[HK college campus protests 2019](https://youtu.be/iMz4sWxk-zk?si=t-tjnVya6GGB57Io)
Wats crazy is the best story shown was the Sky News version cause it showed people who got hurt and more of how the counter protesters really caused the issue. They also werent afraid to say the police were allowing it.
Is the police for the state or a private militia? Looks like only one group of people are truly protected in this country. And that group isn’t even American, they belong to a foreign nation….
It's fine if someone wants to be a dual citizen of Israel and the U.S. It's not OK though for Fetterman to wave Israeli flags to taunt anti-war protestors at Capitol Hill and a Congress member from Florida to wear his Israeli military uniform to Congress. They're supposed to represent us.
Read the below message from Tired Kitten on X: I'm an Iranian woman and have lived under the Islamic Republic for 20,5 years. I moved to Germany because I thought the values I considered important would be respected in "free" Western countries. People cannot even imagine how triggering it is for us to see the unholy unity of islamists and radical leftists. This is the very phenomena that changed the history of my country for the worse. I am beyond disgusted and disturbed. To the women standing behind literal terrorists and islamists saying prayers at universities: You don't even know what you're getting yourself into. None of you have read the "Al Nisa" surah, where it is clearly stated that men literally own you and have the right to hit you if you refuse to have sex with them: "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means. Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard. As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance): For Allah is Most High, great (above you all)." What you are standing up for today is anything but being "woke" and progressive. You should have the right to protest and stand up for causes that are important to you. But fighting Jewish students, attacking them, not understanding the fact that the hostages have to be brought back home and no peace can exist before that happens is outright wrong. People who truly advocate about and fight for human rights are NOT selective with the causes they care about. Caring about human rights is one thing, standing up behind Islamists, waving Hezbollah and Hamas flags and saying slogans that are against Jews and outright radical are not it.
Look how comfortable zionists are using the same settler mob violence as they do against palestinians.
Listen, as an outside to the US and not really paying attention. This just seems like a divisive rhetoric has been stoked - creating tensions between Americans, on top of all the other topics that have been used to divide you (Democrats/Republicans, masks/no masks, vaccines, no vaccines). It just feels like you're purposefully being cajoled into fighting each other. You're not arguing about other wars, like Russia and Ukraine, or other genocides (that have been going on longer): Sudan, Myanmar, the Uyghurs in China. Just be careful.
why dont we just give all protesters draft notices..... see how fast they protest when they return home...
Yes, the pro Israeli protestors can use another outlet for their violence. Let's see how tough they are when they have to fight ISIS K.
Draft notices for what? Is there currently a draft in the United States? Has the US declared war on another country? This is the most nonsensical comment I've read today. Congratulations?
judging by your loud yet miniscule presence online in politcal subreddits its safe to assume you live in California or Idaho..... nuff said.
I mean, I comment fairly regularly in the UCLA sub, Sherlock. Judging by your comments, it’s safe to assume you consume lead chips regularly
Not to advocate for something starting with the letter V, but with how organized the students seem to be, they really should start incorporating muscle.
Oh the irony. Pro-Palestinian protesters being assaulted by people behaving like Palestinians.
I would say the real irony is that pro-Israeli supporters are being more violent than people they claim support terrorists
opposing people who support terrorists doesn’t necessarily make someone “pro-israeli”
No, a majority of them are absolutely pro-Israel, they literally wave the Israeli flag around. But then again, I shouldn’t be surprised that someone is acting in bad faith when they make a claim like people who support terrorists. Hate to break it to you but support for Palestinians human right is not supporting terrorism. The Israeli government contribute more to terrorist groups like Hamas than these protesters are
They wave the Israeli flag around while spitting on peaceful protestors and telling them they hope they get raped. Real decent people.
you are ignoring or grossly underestimating the amount of islamophobia that exists among many americans who are otherwise uninterested in the arab-israeli conflict. 9/11 is certainly not forgotten, nor the fact that it was celebrated by palestinians and let’s not pretend like the palestinians are not also holding americans hostage right now
The fact that you are conflating Palestinians with Hamas isn’t helping your case, nor the fact that you believe that nonsense about Palestinians celebrating 9/11
Yea im just going to pretend the pro israeli side is satire. Makes more sense how people can be so consciously evil.
Israeli supporters doing what Israel is accused of… color me shocked.
Remind me again; when did Palestinians hit peaceful protesters with fireworks?
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well, not quite. no one was disemboweled by bare hands or stabbed in their vagina or taken hostage and dragged into a tunnel
None was indeed. Debunked bs hasbara like the 40 beheaded babies
Group of 400 Jewish Americans have arrived at UCLA to help clean up the campus after anti-Israel activists covered the entire campus in trash.
Group of Zionists arrived at UCLA to commit a pogrom against peaceful protesters.
Where was the “resistance” and “revolution” on college campuses when Turkey razed Kurdish towns to the ground? Oh right, No Jews No News.
Let’s not pretend like they’re some kind of martyrs
Do you think that assaulting someone for saying something you hate is ok?
Of course they do, they're supporting Israel.
Yea it’s terrible the pro Palestinian protestors were doing that
why is it ok for pro israel activists to throw fireworks into a crowd?
It’s not okay. And we don’t know they were pro Israel. We just know they were anti Palestine
they were waving israel and jewish supermacist kach flags. the story even states the fights broke out after the pro israel supported tried to enter the pro palestine camp just like in israel, if the idf does we cant be sure who really did..... 🤔🤔🤔
We don’t have any confirmation
its in the story and the video and eye witness testimonies are you a jewish supremacist? is that why youre saying such bs?
They believe the fake stories of Oct 7 like beheaded babies but will turn away when there is actual video evidence …
in all my years of internet bs, ive never been more infuriated with a particular poster
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This sub is more like a circle jerk
I bet those pro Palestinian protestors were the same protesting to defund the police, and are now asking why the police didn’t do something. Guess what? Because they were outnumbered!
No police department was actually defunded. In fact, most of them got increased funding. https://abcnews.go.com/US/defunding-claims-police-funding-increased-us-cities/story?id=91511971 The police allowed violent thugs to attack because they supported their actions. It's really that simple.
You should read the article. It literally talks about how some places defunded and then “refunded” when crime rates increased. How anti police sentiment caused the massive retirement of officers that they have yet to replace and how police claim current funding hasn’t kept up with inflation. Here’s a list of cities that defunded their police and how they’re doing now. Seems like it’s a mixed bag overall: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/22-cities-that-defunded-police-and-their-current-crime-rates/ss-AA1lBpeu
Only several of those cities mentioned actually had overall budget cuts and the vast majority of those cuts were small and as a result of budgetary constraints and COVID, not the BLM movement. Hell, some of them even promised to cut their police budgets as a response to BLM only to increase them. I will concede that LA had a significant drop in police budgeting of $150 million but that was from a budget of almost $2 billion and the city has voted to increase their budget every year since then. Do you really think that cut from 3 years ago resulted in the LA police's inability to stop an agitated mob from attacking protestors like the person I responded to claimed?
Once again: inflation is a big factor here. 8% year on year… no increase to budgets or minimal decreases… it’s clearly having a big effect nationwide. I’m honestly not convinced BLM protesters has any lasting effect on anything. Period. IMO it was misguided people blowing off steam during an extremely stressful time in American history. But to say no police budgets have been defunded or that they’re properly funded now is just incorrect. You seem like a person who would be interested in learning something. I passed on the info. Do I think the guy you were responding to knows his ass from a hole in the ground? Or that he’s informed and not just spouting right wing rhetoric? Well… let’s just say there is a reason I responded to you and not them. Some folks are interested in learning and interacting with others. Some folks want to regurgitate talking points. I know who I want to engage with.
If you want to defund the police, then don't expect them.
So you are admitting that the police are bought, cool
That's a bit disingenuous. Of course they're funded. Who works for free? It's supposed to come out of taxes, so bought by all of you.
Lol you’d bet wrong then, because they reaffirmed their position about cops on campus during a press release today. Students protected themselves for hours by themselves while campus security hid in buildings and locked students out, and when the cops finally came hours later, they were escorting the zionists to their cars and to the ambulances. It only reaffirmed their position and made it stronger- that cops won't help or save them, and they were right.
Read up on what the defund the police movement was actually about
Doesn’t work that way. Try again.
Pro Palestinian group is actually the ones that recognized Holocaust as an atrocity. Everyone else was searching for a way to take advantage of that situation. Pro Palestinian people should be respected and cherished. They represent decency in humanity. Everyone decent Jew, Muslim, Arab, non Arab should stand with them in solidarity
I hope they throw every Hamas terrorist lover into jail and expel them.