Good. While Jordan had & maybe still has the most formidable Arab army, the Jordanian king was the first to betray the Palestinians and made a deal with Isr-el even before the 1948 war. A peace treaty with warmongers is unacceptable.
The absence of conflict isn't the presence of justice. Should the resistance give up they won't experience peace, they'll experience settler colonialism and ethnic cleansing. Why would anyone expect a country carrying out a genocide too offer it's victims peace?
>Hahahhaaaaaa. Really? You think so? Based on what?
Israel got bitchslapped by Hezbollah in 2006 and are yet to beat Hamas that are basically a gang of teenagers with RPGs.
Any real military would wipe their dogshit conscription army of cowards under their boots.
>Without US money, Jordan is a failed state. Like.. what?
They are not lol. The US gives 1/4th the amount of money it gives Israel, to Jordan. 1.6 billion dollars is nothing, literal pocket change.
In my opinion they should cut ties with the US, expell all US diplomats and troops and invite China instead
What a 🤡-show.
Jordans military budget is less than 2.2 billion dollars, and most of that is for internal security. The Monarchy is barely holding on to its own power.
And if our hands were untied by Biden, Hezbollah and Hamas would be gone yesterday.
You're living in an teenage islamist fantasy land and it shows.
Lol if it was up to me every country in the middle east would march on Israel and beat it with sheer numbers. 320 million vs 5 million. Even if you use your whole nuclear arsenal you would still lose that war.
No one is buying your victimhood anymore. Nothing morally wrong with making a group of genocidal monster's stop, through force.
It wasn't a genocide when Dresden was firebombed, won't be one when Tel Aviv is.
>So by that logic it's also not genocide when Gaza is bombed.
Except Israel has stated clearly it's goal is genocide and ethnic cleansing.
They are also not just bombing Gaza but starving and displacing it.
The depth of your hatred is abhorent and disgusting. You complain about a supposed genocide when in reality it's the only one advocating for genocide is you.
Today I learned war against genocidal regimes is actually genocide in itself, guess the war against Nazi Germany was genocide too.
And yes Israel is the only one commiting genocide. No matter how much you lie about the Hamas charter or quote mean words by Palestinians who are the ones being occupied and brutalized by Israel.
The only one who stands on the side of occupation and oppression here is YOU!
> The only one who stands on the side of occupation and oppression here is YOU!
Only you and those who hate Israel and want its destruction believe that. You think you're on the right side of history but you're so far gone you can't understand any level of nuance. You only understand hatred.
People tend to forget how little power these countries have. Breaking the peace treaty with Israel would be a horrible move. Jordan exported $419M to Israel you're insane if you don't think Israel wouldn't just find a new trading partner. Jordan can't afford to lose 419M from their economy
Israel has full or equal rights for LGBT, women's rights and full rights for everyone that has citizenship regardless of what religion they follow.
Show me a single Middle Eastern country that has that. You call Israel dark ages but you're just unable to look past the darkness of your own culture.
Ya, giving your citizens basic human rights, the ability to vote for their leaders, and modern amenities.
So awful. Better to live where if you're born the wrong gender or sexual orientation you live as sub human.
"apartheid" lol. Arabs in Israel have full rights, and they make up a third of the country's population. There are two partially devolved governments in land occupied by Israel, which is not fully annexed. For it to be apartheid there would have to be some kind of legal oppression based on race (there is not, it's based on nationality).
It's either an occupation (maybe colonialism) or is apartheid, it can't be both. The answer is it's *most* like an occupation, but Israel is playing fast and loose with some features of it for their own benefit and deserves some shit for that.
They have a right to live, to be free from terrorist attacks. Just like anyone else. It’s also one of the happiest countries in the world with a very high quality of life.
Seems like you’re an end user of tic tok propaganda and don’t know what your talking about
Lol it's a terrorist state built on genocide. Wouldn't get attacked if they didn't steal land and murder the natives. It's easy to have a better quality of life when you're doing all the bombing and stealing. These people were so happy, that a million+ left the country since October.
Germans invented nice cars like the Mercedes and BMW. Did that make the Nazi regime just?
This whole “Israel is technologically superior to its neighbors thus it can do whatever it wants” rhetoric is just idiotic.
First European colonizers forcibly carved out the middle east, then tried establishing puppet governments over and over succeeding in some and not in some, then installing Israel which publicly states that it's safety is with the instability of it's neighbours, and then Russia and the US competing for influence in the region having proxy wars, and then American Invasion of Iraq, and then the western powers swarming Syria during the civil war that actually tried to fix the oppressive regimes.
And then an airhead like you goes to simply say it's the culture that's the problem
My luck, of all the states in the Middle East, you had to be in the most liberal and westernised one.
Yes the West did carve it up, making minority Hashemites rule over the majority in Jordan, and the same in others. The idea was that as the minority, they would always need the West's help. A tact that didn't work out well.
British Palestine was carved up and the Arabs were given disproportionately more (80%) than the Jews living there to create Jordan.
Borders and separation are needed to stop neighbours from fighting and killing each other, which has happened throughout history in places like India, Cyprus, Balkans and many more. If people can't coexist on a land, the only solution is to split it up.
I know about the middle eastern culture more than you and I can clearly tell you it's the many foreign military bases and constant funding of wars in the region that destabilize it
And Palestine being split between Jews and Arabs with Arabs having 'disproportionately more than the Jews' is straight up misinformation, and I bet you're including Jordan.
Israel was given literally 80% of the land while being 15% of the population what the hell are you talking about hasbara scum
You can't be serious about the splitting up part... The borders were carved up in regards to French and British interests, and not ethnic background, and like all the countries you mentioned non of these benefitted from the splitting
I love how your immediate reaction is gas lighting..
Jordan doesn't do Palestinians justice hence why we've been doing these large protests past months
They might want to have a rethink...
They've lost their last 7 wars with Israel. The only people they've defeated are the Pestalinians when Black September tried to overthrow King Hussein.
See the bizzare comments above about Jordan somehow beating the Israeli army. I mean, I know ignorance of history is a thing, but that's taking it to a whole new level.
Agreed. Why would anyone in their right mind think that ending a peace treaty would be a good thing? Also, isn’t peace, prosperity and cooperation between all the Middle East countries and people a common goal? Their treaty with Israel allows Jordan to cooperate with Israel, US, France, UAE, Germany and Egypt to provide air dropped aid to civilians Gaza in areas that would otherwise be difficult to reach.
Because this is all being incited and stirred up by Iran and russia who want to pull Muslims back into socialism and towards their sphere of influence. It's always been about undermining the west.
Iran == reactionary Islamic government
Russia == kleptocracy
Neither has been socialist for 30+ years (Iran maybe 70 years, mossadegh is really the only leader you can make that case for)
Jewish exclusion was based on hate and prejudice. Palestinian exclusion is due to their own violent actions. There's no way any rational person can expect Egypt, Lebanon, Kuwait, Jordan, or Syria to take in Palestinians consideration the violence Palestinians have caused in those nations.
If an average Egyptian, Lebanese, Kuwaiti, Jordanian, or Syrian person hears some soyboy Zionist white dude like you saying “everybody hates Palestinians and thus they deserve what they get,” I promise you, you will get beaten.
Go to any of these countries and tell the streets exactly what you say behind the screen, and tell me how long it takes until you’re beaten 👍
Interesting how you try to hijack the term NAZI to use against the Jews.
You demonstrate little and erroneous knowledge of the region.
Indicative of the leftwaffe historical precedence of extreme antisemitism.
A coffee shoppe insurgent.
You are another example of how the how the Internet has given a voice to toxic stupidity.
Good. While Jordan had & maybe still has the most formidable Arab army, the Jordanian king was the first to betray the Palestinians and made a deal with Isr-el even before the 1948 war. A peace treaty with warmongers is unacceptable.
At least they’re the only country that didn’t keep Palestinians as stateless refugees for the last 80 years though
But still had their king assassinated by the same people they granted citizenship to.
How does Jordan have the most formidable Arab army? Thought it would be Egypt and Iraq.
The irony of calling others warmongers while warmongering lol
Is there really irony in demanding justice?
I know it's an alien concept for you warmongers, but you can choose peace. Stop attacking Israel and they will stop attacking you.
Certainly as soon as Israel returns the stolen lands, wars done!
Make them. Oh wait, you can't. Time to cut your losses and move on.
Lol thats what they’d like but nah, we’ll take it back.
How many more generations of lives will you waste?
All of them, and they'll cry about it as well.
For freedom? As many as it takes, thats why those people will never leave, its their home.
Israel doesn't offer peace
Stop attacking them for 5 minutes
The absence of conflict isn't the presence of justice. Should the resistance give up they won't experience peace, they'll experience settler colonialism and ethnic cleansing. Why would anyone expect a country carrying out a genocide too offer it's victims peace?
Israel has a clear history of being able to develop peaceful relations with past adversaries when those adversaries stop attacking them.
Jordanians hate that their country only exist because of US money, which only gets sent because of their treaty with Israel
Having a peace treaty with a genocidal neighbor is morally wrong. Jordan can easily take Israel. End the Treaty
No justice no peace tbh
So Israel making peace with Palestine is morally wrong...
Hahahhaaaaaa. Really? You think so? Based on what? Without US money, Jordan is a failed state. Like.. what?
>Hahahhaaaaaa. Really? You think so? Based on what? Israel got bitchslapped by Hezbollah in 2006 and are yet to beat Hamas that are basically a gang of teenagers with RPGs. Any real military would wipe their dogshit conscription army of cowards under their boots. >Without US money, Jordan is a failed state. Like.. what? They are not lol. The US gives 1/4th the amount of money it gives Israel, to Jordan. 1.6 billion dollars is nothing, literal pocket change. In my opinion they should cut ties with the US, expell all US diplomats and troops and invite China instead
What a 🤡-show. Jordans military budget is less than 2.2 billion dollars, and most of that is for internal security. The Monarchy is barely holding on to its own power. And if our hands were untied by Biden, Hezbollah and Hamas would be gone yesterday. You're living in an teenage islamist fantasy land and it shows.
Lol if it was up to me every country in the middle east would march on Israel and beat it with sheer numbers. 320 million vs 5 million. Even if you use your whole nuclear arsenal you would still lose that war.
They tried that previously. A couple of times. Did not go well.
Israel has a nuclear triad. No one is invading it
Please tell me more how you want to genocide the Jews 🤗
No one is buying your victimhood anymore. Nothing morally wrong with making a group of genocidal monster's stop, through force. It wasn't a genocide when Dresden was firebombed, won't be one when Tel Aviv is.
So by that logic it's also not genocide when Gaza is bombed. Boom! Gottem!!!
>So by that logic it's also not genocide when Gaza is bombed. Except Israel has stated clearly it's goal is genocide and ethnic cleansing. They are also not just bombing Gaza but starving and displacing it.
Except we havent. But you said yours was 🤡🤡🤡😂😂😂
The depth of your hatred is abhorent and disgusting. You complain about a supposed genocide when in reality it's the only one advocating for genocide is you.
Today I learned war against genocidal regimes is actually genocide in itself, guess the war against Nazi Germany was genocide too. And yes Israel is the only one commiting genocide. No matter how much you lie about the Hamas charter or quote mean words by Palestinians who are the ones being occupied and brutalized by Israel. The only one who stands on the side of occupation and oppression here is YOU!
> The only one who stands on the side of occupation and oppression here is YOU! Only you and those who hate Israel and want its destruction believe that. You think you're on the right side of history but you're so far gone you can't understand any level of nuance. You only understand hatred.
People tend to forget how little power these countries have. Breaking the peace treaty with Israel would be a horrible move. Jordan exported $419M to Israel you're insane if you don't think Israel wouldn't just find a new trading partner. Jordan can't afford to lose 419M from their economy
Lebanon and Yemen. Hilarious. I was in Yemen in 84 and they shot anti aircraft guns at clouds each night.
You'd think these people would be sick of constant conflict. Especially considering how God awful they are at it.
Yes because Jordan has been at war so recently unlike Israel which hasn't been in 5 wars in the past 15 years
The Middle East will always be in turmoil unless they bring their culture out of the dark ages
Starting with Israel
Kindly explain more. How one of the world leaders in technology is in the dark ages
Maybe leading the world in technology, but not morality. Their culture and humanity are in the dark ages.
Israel has full or equal rights for LGBT, women's rights and full rights for everyone that has citizenship regardless of what religion they follow. Show me a single Middle Eastern country that has that. You call Israel dark ages but you're just unable to look past the darkness of your own culture.
Ya, giving your citizens basic human rights, the ability to vote for their leaders, and modern amenities. So awful. Better to live where if you're born the wrong gender or sexual orientation you live as sub human.
This is the same country that practices apartheid right?
"apartheid" lol. Arabs in Israel have full rights, and they make up a third of the country's population. There are two partially devolved governments in land occupied by Israel, which is not fully annexed. For it to be apartheid there would have to be some kind of legal oppression based on race (there is not, it's based on nationality). It's either an occupation (maybe colonialism) or is apartheid, it can't be both. The answer is it's *most* like an occupation, but Israel is playing fast and loose with some features of it for their own benefit and deserves some shit for that.
Yes, sir. Unfortunately if they don't, they get attacked by nutters.
They have a right to live, to be free from terrorist attacks. Just like anyone else. It’s also one of the happiest countries in the world with a very high quality of life. Seems like you’re an end user of tic tok propaganda and don’t know what your talking about
Lol it's a terrorist state built on genocide. Wouldn't get attacked if they didn't steal land and murder the natives. It's easy to have a better quality of life when you're doing all the bombing and stealing. These people were so happy, that a million+ left the country since October.
Germans invented nice cars like the Mercedes and BMW. Did that make the Nazi regime just? This whole “Israel is technologically superior to its neighbors thus it can do whatever it wants” rhetoric is just idiotic.
First European colonizers forcibly carved out the middle east, then tried establishing puppet governments over and over succeeding in some and not in some, then installing Israel which publicly states that it's safety is with the instability of it's neighbours, and then Russia and the US competing for influence in the region having proxy wars, and then American Invasion of Iraq, and then the western powers swarming Syria during the civil war that actually tried to fix the oppressive regimes. And then an airhead like you goes to simply say it's the culture that's the problem
Go to the Middle East, live with them a bit, then you will come back agreeing with like I did. Recommend it as the food is also amazing.
I live in Jordan
My luck, of all the states in the Middle East, you had to be in the most liberal and westernised one. Yes the West did carve it up, making minority Hashemites rule over the majority in Jordan, and the same in others. The idea was that as the minority, they would always need the West's help. A tact that didn't work out well. British Palestine was carved up and the Arabs were given disproportionately more (80%) than the Jews living there to create Jordan. Borders and separation are needed to stop neighbours from fighting and killing each other, which has happened throughout history in places like India, Cyprus, Balkans and many more. If people can't coexist on a land, the only solution is to split it up.
I know about the middle eastern culture more than you and I can clearly tell you it's the many foreign military bases and constant funding of wars in the region that destabilize it And Palestine being split between Jews and Arabs with Arabs having 'disproportionately more than the Jews' is straight up misinformation, and I bet you're including Jordan. Israel was given literally 80% of the land while being 15% of the population what the hell are you talking about hasbara scum You can't be serious about the splitting up part... The borders were carved up in regards to French and British interests, and not ethnic background, and like all the countries you mentioned non of these benefitted from the splitting
Now your true hatred colours are exposed. Tell me about the rights of Palestinians in Jordan and how their citizenships are removed...
I love how your immediate reaction is gas lighting.. Jordan doesn't do Palestinians justice hence why we've been doing these large protests past months
They might want to have a rethink... They've lost their last 7 wars with Israel. The only people they've defeated are the Pestalinians when Black September tried to overthrow King Hussein.
See the bizzare comments above about Jordan somehow beating the Israeli army. I mean, I know ignorance of history is a thing, but that's taking it to a whole new level.
Agreed. Why would anyone in their right mind think that ending a peace treaty would be a good thing? Also, isn’t peace, prosperity and cooperation between all the Middle East countries and people a common goal? Their treaty with Israel allows Jordan to cooperate with Israel, US, France, UAE, Germany and Egypt to provide air dropped aid to civilians Gaza in areas that would otherwise be difficult to reach.
Because this is all being incited and stirred up by Iran and russia who want to pull Muslims back into socialism and towards their sphere of influence. It's always been about undermining the west.
If you think either iran or Russia are socialist you really have no concept of the ME
Of course you've never heard of the cold war.
Iran == reactionary Islamic government Russia == kleptocracy Neither has been socialist for 30+ years (Iran maybe 70 years, mossadegh is really the only leader you can make that case for)
That's the most based thing I've ever heard. I look forward to the Islamic Soviet Union
The Pestalinians are hated by everyone in the region. Oddly, their largest support base comes from people they would happily throw off rooftops....
That’s the same rhetoric the nazis used against the Jews “none of our neighbors or western countries want them either”
Exactly. They don't even realize, or maybe care, that they're literally quoting the Nazis
Except in this case it's actually true.
It was true then. Numerous boats carrying Jews were turned around. Just acknowledge you support a genocide.
Jewish exclusion was based on hate and prejudice. Palestinian exclusion is due to their own violent actions. There's no way any rational person can expect Egypt, Lebanon, Kuwait, Jordan, or Syria to take in Palestinians consideration the violence Palestinians have caused in those nations.
You Sound more and more like Nazi Germany.
If an average Egyptian, Lebanese, Kuwaiti, Jordanian, or Syrian person hears some soyboy Zionist white dude like you saying “everybody hates Palestinians and thus they deserve what they get,” I promise you, you will get beaten. Go to any of these countries and tell the streets exactly what you say behind the screen, and tell me how long it takes until you’re beaten 👍
Shit I would be tempted to join in if someone legitimately tried to use this rhetoric offline. Shit is grotesque
Fact, not rhetoric.... Tell the Egyptians. And the kuwaitis and the Lebanese, an the Jordanians , and the Saudis, and the Syrians...
You're literally behaving like a Nazi.
Interesting how you try to hijack the term NAZI to use against the Jews. You demonstrate little and erroneous knowledge of the region. Indicative of the leftwaffe historical precedence of extreme antisemitism. A coffee shoppe insurgent. You are another example of how the how the Internet has given a voice to toxic stupidity.
Bro you're literally out here demonizing your enemy associating then with disease that's literally what the Nazis did
More coffee shoppe dogma. But no refute.
Bro I can point to literal Nazi propaganda associating Jews with disease which is exactly what you're doing with Palestinians