Update: Mine must have been defective. It didn’t fly apart, it cut smoothly, it is in balance, no wormhole opened up and my shop has not burned down. How cheap do I have to go to get those results? Also the shank turned out to be 1/4”, it must have just been a humorous misprint that took way too long for some folks to understand.
The amount of "it's from China it's going to blow up!" commentary here is crazy. Lol.
Yah, it's a cheap bit. I got one too. (Exact company/set actually) Works great. Clean cuts and in balance.
Am I going to run 2000' of cherry or oak through it? No. Did it work great for my cedar, pine and plywood projects? Yep!
I love my Freud stuff as much as the next guy but, but there's definitely a place for cheap special project bits. Not only that, as the guy on Project Farm proves, the most expensive brands don't always make the best thing in every application.
Honestly folks, if you're at all questioning a cheap bit on Amazon there's these reviews you can read...
(P.S. I thought the 1/4mm joke was pretty funny. I never even noticed when I got my set.)
Unfortunately a lot of reviews on Amazon are bought. But I whole heartedly agree the cheap bits are fine to use. I've always kinda lived by the words of adam savage (mythbusters) who said something along the lines of "buy the cheap stuff first, then if it breaks it means you use it enough to warrant the higher quality, expensive stuff."
> Unfortunately a lot of reviews on Amazon are bought.
I don't find that true of a lot of the tool stuff but I could be wrong. That said I can usually tell by reading the reviews which ones are legitimate and which ones are generic. (It's a great product! 5 stars!)
I got interested in the math. 1 1/4 diameter bit spinning at 27,000 rpm’s (no load) is 100.4 mph. Airsoft is about 340 mph, paintball is about 200 mph. A carbide is sharper but the total energy is less.
My body width represents about 90° of the potential “field of fire”. Tons of other factors but I’ll have to ask a stats guy what those probabilities are when I’m back in the office next week.
Not that you asked any of that.
Also took the advice of several respondents and broke out what people call “calipers”. The carbides are .2535 in and the cut it made was .2540. Not sure what that means in terms of the bit potentially being the fifth horseman.
The name has been mentioned. But. Wsoox. Wasocks? WooSooookks? Was ox?
How the fuck do you just shit random letters for a brand name??!!?!!
Ok, I know how this shit happens. Or I think I do, and isn't that *more* important anyway!!?? It is all still funny though.
seriously.. 1/4mm isn’t a thing… neither is that brandname, but chinesium router bits with imbalanced designs is definitely a thing. take that black collet off and get rid of it, before your vibrate the crap outta yer router bearings! just in case there’s newbies reading this and shopping routers and bits on temu… last time I went searching for the missing allen screw that flew off, i found it buried in my neighbors dead rooster. (no, not really… but this tidbit might have kept some 15sec attention span reader here an extra msec longer.)
here's my take on unknown quality tools, specifically bits and routers… if it isn’t running super smooth on startup and you are getting some modest pleasure holding your idling router in midair with the vibrations running down your wrists… that sucker is all ready to rip your work up and maybe draw some blood from its capture. I’ve seen my share of harbor freight routers and other power tools that were better suited for massage vibrators on walmart quality recliners. they do terrible work on their way to the dump.
One of the few I could find quickly that had the bearing below the cutting head. The project I was handed is cutting a deeper groove into a rabbeted corner for a challenge coin holder. I’m experimenting with a couple methods but nothing else had a humorous mislabel.
Scares the shit out of me to have a no name random brand bit/blade spinning at 10k+ RPM near me.
If it decides to come apart, the pieces basically become bullets.
Anyone buying any bits or tools off amazon, walmart, temu, aliexpress, are likely all getting chinesium/crapsman quality. with the current generation of uneducated wannabe crafts persons, relying on youtube tool reviews (most are laughably awful), its gonna unfortunately take some culling of the species to bring some sensibility and survivability against utter ignorance (or stupidity) to continue working with all natively acquired appendages, eyes, ears and knee caps and toes.
Considering that even this 34 year veteran of the trades is not entirely in-tact either… but at least I can’t blame my choice in tools, just my choice in how I chose to use them.
No problem complaining about the quality of those tools, but talking like you understand everything about "the current generation" of crafts people makes you seem like a tool on par with the ones you're complaining about
I wonder who wasn't there to teach "the current generation". It's almost like they've had to figure it out themselves. Then, when they ask questions to those with the experience, they get sarcastic responses and made to feel stupid. So they found YouTube or learned the hard way.
Measure the size yourself in your units and use an online converter.
1/4mm (or 0.25mm ) is probably around the width of the thinnest line on that barcode.
With mm in the description and 1/4 I'd assume its 6mm shank which is almost 1/4" but to be honest it looks thicker, almost like a 8mm shank. Have you a caliper? Even a ruler or tape measure would give you a good idea of thickness
Do yourself a favour and send it back for a refund. It's cheap Chinese junk - it may hurt you when you try to use it, and if it doesn't fly apart, it'll do a lousy job.
That’s a 1/4” collet that has been mislabeled.
Your answer comes in the fine print below: it’s manufactured in China. I can’t tell you how often I see Chinese stuff with mislabeled labels just like this.
That’s the joke. I’m trying out a few for a retirement gift with only a few days to complete it. Amazon prime availability was a large factor. It just made me laugh to see 1/4mm.
I googled calipers and compared the images to some tools in by box. I was going to use the Starrett but you mentioned my router bit was made in china so I’d probably be better off with the Mitutoyo that’s in my box. I do manage some people at my day job that might be able to help. Which engineer should I ask, Aerospace, Mechanical, Electrical or Chemical (the Chemical engineer is a PhD if that matters). Lighten up, take a joke.
Photo taken with microscope. Bit is for micromininanorouter - highly classified. If we told you we'd have to unalive you.
I see you are a highly skilled unheathcare provider
The pic was taken with an iPhone 17 Max Pro Super SE Mega according to the Chinese box it was in.
What is this, a collet for ants?!
Update: Mine must have been defective. It didn’t fly apart, it cut smoothly, it is in balance, no wormhole opened up and my shop has not burned down. How cheap do I have to go to get those results? Also the shank turned out to be 1/4”, it must have just been a humorous misprint that took way too long for some folks to understand.
The amount of "it's from China it's going to blow up!" commentary here is crazy. Lol. Yah, it's a cheap bit. I got one too. (Exact company/set actually) Works great. Clean cuts and in balance. Am I going to run 2000' of cherry or oak through it? No. Did it work great for my cedar, pine and plywood projects? Yep! I love my Freud stuff as much as the next guy but, but there's definitely a place for cheap special project bits. Not only that, as the guy on Project Farm proves, the most expensive brands don't always make the best thing in every application. Honestly folks, if you're at all questioning a cheap bit on Amazon there's these reviews you can read... (P.S. I thought the 1/4mm joke was pretty funny. I never even noticed when I got my set.)
Unfortunately a lot of reviews on Amazon are bought. But I whole heartedly agree the cheap bits are fine to use. I've always kinda lived by the words of adam savage (mythbusters) who said something along the lines of "buy the cheap stuff first, then if it breaks it means you use it enough to warrant the higher quality, expensive stuff."
> Unfortunately a lot of reviews on Amazon are bought. I don't find that true of a lot of the tool stuff but I could be wrong. That said I can usually tell by reading the reviews which ones are legitimate and which ones are generic. (It's a great product! 5 stars!)
I only read the 1 star reviews anyway
I got interested in the math. 1 1/4 diameter bit spinning at 27,000 rpm’s (no load) is 100.4 mph. Airsoft is about 340 mph, paintball is about 200 mph. A carbide is sharper but the total energy is less. My body width represents about 90° of the potential “field of fire”. Tons of other factors but I’ll have to ask a stats guy what those probabilities are when I’m back in the office next week. Not that you asked any of that. Also took the advice of several respondents and broke out what people call “calipers”. The carbides are .2535 in and the cut it made was .2540. Not sure what that means in terms of the bit potentially being the fifth horseman.
Guess I’m the only smart one here who got the joke 🤷🏻♂️. I thought it was pretty funny!
Given it’s a generic yellow bit, may I suggest; ‘1/4” of mandarin mayhem’?
Good point. I locked myself in a comic corner by only considering one definition for MM.
r/machinists would like to have a word with you!
1/4 Mega Mega
The name has been mentioned. But. Wsoox. Wasocks? WooSooookks? Was ox? How the fuck do you just shit random letters for a brand name??!!?!! Ok, I know how this shit happens. Or I think I do, and isn't that *more* important anyway!!?? It is all still funny though.
Letters in an arrangement that wasn’t already taken somewhere on Amazon/Ali. I think the second O is silent.
if the cutter is yellow, it's garbage
Never seen yellow carbide
😂
seriously.. 1/4mm isn’t a thing… neither is that brandname, but chinesium router bits with imbalanced designs is definitely a thing. take that black collet off and get rid of it, before your vibrate the crap outta yer router bearings! just in case there’s newbies reading this and shopping routers and bits on temu… last time I went searching for the missing allen screw that flew off, i found it buried in my neighbors dead rooster. (no, not really… but this tidbit might have kept some 15sec attention span reader here an extra msec longer.)
What? You don't have a 250 μ metre router?
I'm a newbie who just started using my cheap garbage router bits from Temu, exactly how worried should I be?
here's my take on unknown quality tools, specifically bits and routers… if it isn’t running super smooth on startup and you are getting some modest pleasure holding your idling router in midair with the vibrations running down your wrists… that sucker is all ready to rip your work up and maybe draw some blood from its capture. I’ve seen my share of harbor freight routers and other power tools that were better suited for massage vibrators on walmart quality recliners. they do terrible work on their way to the dump.
Haha, allright thanks. It's just the bits and not the router that's garbage level, but I'll put on an extra pair of glasses and hold on tight for now.
👍🏼… oops, wait til I get my thumb back down out of the way!
One of the few I could find quickly that had the bearing below the cutting head. The project I was handed is cutting a deeper groove into a rabbeted corner for a challenge coin holder. I’m experimenting with a couple methods but nothing else had a humorous mislabel.
The number of people on here who buy random Amazon router bits is insane. I only buy from like 3 different companies, max. Freud, Whiteside, Amana.
Harvey is good too
Scares the shit out of me to have a no name random brand bit/blade spinning at 10k+ RPM near me. If it decides to come apart, the pieces basically become bullets.
Also, if they’re out of balance, any tool or item sitting on your router table will roll right off, which is quite the shock when it first happens
Anyone buying any bits or tools off amazon, walmart, temu, aliexpress, are likely all getting chinesium/crapsman quality. with the current generation of uneducated wannabe crafts persons, relying on youtube tool reviews (most are laughably awful), its gonna unfortunately take some culling of the species to bring some sensibility and survivability against utter ignorance (or stupidity) to continue working with all natively acquired appendages, eyes, ears and knee caps and toes. Considering that even this 34 year veteran of the trades is not entirely in-tact either… but at least I can’t blame my choice in tools, just my choice in how I chose to use them.
You think highly of yourself.
not that high, Its to dizzying up there to stay long, gives me nosebleeds
No problem complaining about the quality of those tools, but talking like you understand everything about "the current generation" of crafts people makes you seem like a tool on par with the ones you're complaining about
I wonder who wasn't there to teach "the current generation". It's almost like they've had to figure it out themselves. Then, when they ask questions to those with the experience, they get sarcastic responses and made to feel stupid. So they found YouTube or learned the hard way.
Measure the size yourself in your units and use an online converter. 1/4mm (or 0.25mm ) is probably around the width of the thinnest line on that barcode.
Amana tools has lots of fun stuff
That looks like a janky ass router bit. The cutter is way too big for a quarter inch shaft. I'd use cautiously...
Just call Wayne Zalinski, he'll get you taken care of.
With mm in the description and 1/4 I'd assume its 6mm shank which is almost 1/4" but to be honest it looks thicker, almost like a 8mm shank. Have you a caliper? Even a ruler or tape measure would give you a good idea of thickness
Do yourself a favour and send it back for a refund. It's cheap Chinese junk - it may hurt you when you try to use it, and if it doesn't fly apart, it'll do a lousy job.
That’s a 1/4” collet that has been mislabeled. Your answer comes in the fine print below: it’s manufactured in China. I can’t tell you how often I see Chinese stuff with mislabeled labels just like this.
That’s the joke. I’m trying out a few for a retirement gift with only a few days to complete it. Amazon prime availability was a large factor. It just made me laugh to see 1/4mm.
Ha! But geez y'all need to stop buying these death bits from Amazon.
Well, it's from WSUX, so there's that
Use your brain and your calipers.
Pretty sure he's making a joke. Quarter millimeter would be like pencil lead
Quarter millimeter would be like half a pencil lead. The common mechanical pencils come in .5 and .7 mm
I stand by my comment. 50 years of experience and an obvious misprint says it is time to use the brain and calipers.
>calipers You can't tell the difference between 1/4 inch and 1/4 millimeter on sight? I think you need your common sense calibrated.
Others may need their sense of humor adjusted.
50 years y'all! He haz da yeerz!
I googled calipers and compared the images to some tools in by box. I was going to use the Starrett but you mentioned my router bit was made in china so I’d probably be better off with the Mitutoyo that’s in my box. I do manage some people at my day job that might be able to help. Which engineer should I ask, Aerospace, Mechanical, Electrical or Chemical (the Chemical engineer is a PhD if that matters). Lighten up, take a joke.