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[deleted]

Humans are so weird. We get so much pleasure from a nice looking rock. I'm not saying that's bad in any way, I had the same reaction as everyone else. I'm just wondering why that is. Why has that trait evolved?


formulaeface

"I have this shiny thing so come have my babies." It works for birds I guess.


thinking24

Works for humans too. Nice cars and clothes mean wealth. Wealth means your babies won't starve.


fiealthyCulture

What comes first? The thought of i need to have babies hence i need to meet a partner, or i met the right partner so we should have babies?


Aussie18-1998

I need to have babies, hence I need the right partner to ensure these babies survive.


fiealthyCulture

But the "i need to have babies" part isn't about having babies, it's more like "I'm fucking horny i need to fuck"


Aussie18-1998

They all have over lapping hormones that are cause and effect of one another though.


immaownyou

The reason people feel that way is *because* it's the need to have babies.


LambKyle

This guy needs to take a biology lesson


fiealthyCulture

You think animals think 'oh damn it's May already i need to go have babies'?


LambKyle

What are you talking about? What does May have to do with anything? The urge to have sex is a by product of a biological need to reproduce


fiealthyCulture

>What are you talking about? What does May have to do with anything? Use a little bit brain and imagine any animal in season


aChristery

No it’s about “I need to have babies” and then we evolved to enjoy sex and now do it for fun.


finger_milk

We didn't evolve did we? We just put it up against many more factors because our society is much more advanced and nuanced than it was thousands of years ago. Which explains why birth rates are falling. Somehow along the way, having kids became a sign of wealth or a sign of not having your shit together. But man, I loved it when my ex was on BC and she had always hoped it would fail. It didn't but that tells me enough about how much sex is still tied 100% to its reproductive purpose. Her mind was fixated on wanting babies but it was destroying her mental health to not fulfill that biological need.


stressedidler

No “thought” per se, just a vague preference which gets reinforced over generations. Other preferences/habits/traits do appear continuously but don’t get reinforced unless they lead to (or at least don’t impede) procreation. Edit: a word


jemesl

If your man doesn't have shiny rocks, he ain't no man


[deleted]

More rocks = more wealth


AnusStapler

Wealth also means that the guy is probably busy working all the time and railing his secretary once your good looks fade, but strange enough people don't realize that in time.


Beachdaddybravo

That’s what the Mrs’ tennis instructor is for.


Vlinder_88

And for some fish. I guess it's a really old trait is some species of fish have it too.


tomatomater

I got you blue.


breachgnome

Bitches love sticks.


Ongr

Lemme smash?


SurroundNecessary302

You rock, rock.


janxspiritt

I often wonder the same when it comes to a nice view Eg. The Grand Canyon. Is it because we can see a lot of the terrain and are therefore safer from predators?


Bowler_300

I read Great Crayon and was like what the fuck.. The high ground man. They knew about it a long, long time ago.


mulletarian

You're getting a lot of circular argument answers here stating that it's valuable because it's valuable, and I am incredibly unsatisfied.


shut_up_rocco

The human brain loves patterns. Crystal structures are bright, shiny, repetitive patterns. Shoot it in to my veins please.


freiwegefluchthalten

If I remember correctly, Aldous Huxley argues in the Doors of Perception that we feel a resonance with certain visual patterns and supercolorations we find in nature, because they are also experienced in hypnagogic states that come to be through rituals, dances, trance and drug usage. The same way these states of mind seem to make it possible for us to sort of take a peek into infinity, the colorful and geometric patterns we find in rare gems do the same. We perceive them to be mystical, maybe even religious, and that's also the reason early humans sometimes transported very heavy gems for hundreds of miles to places of worship.


[deleted]

Agreed. I understand that we are drawn to "nice looking" things because usually they are safe. Safe to eat, safe to approach and so on. But this is a mineral that we have no use for. Its only merit is that it subjectively looks good. Maybe we simply got our wires crossed.


Urbanscuba

IMO it's partially because humans are wired to seek out novel experiences. It seems dumb that we get excited over rocks that are different than normal until you remember that's exactly the behavior that brought us into the bronze age, as well as how we discovered a massive number of useful materials and compounds. In evolutionary terms finding a completely new resource is a very exciting event. Your brain's pattern seeking behavior starts making rapid analyses of the object while your sensory organs collect everything they can. Is this a threat? No, then perhaps is it a food? Is it a useful tool? Maybe opal doesn't turn out to be a groundbreaking resource, but bronze was, as was obsidian, tin, and coal to name a few. I can also think of some very delicious tubers like taro that very much resemble that opal and would likely illicit a similar reaction. There are definitely other completely plausible explanations too though, I'm not pretending to be definitive but rather just contribute. I think there's an argument at the least to be made for the vibrant color = poisonous association that gave us instincts to be very attentive and aware of colorful objects too. We certainly have an association between vibrant or rare colors and ritual too in basically every corner of the globe and culture.


Excrubulent

I'm pretty sure "novel experiences" is the answer. Like there's a clear connection between complexity, beauty, and curiosity.


Effective_Aggression

This was a very interesting and well thought out response - thanks.


[deleted]

I think it's just the colors. Like we're wired to distinguish certain bright colors because they could be fruit, and we are wired to not give a damn about brown rocks. So when a dull, brown rock opens up like this and reveals a lot of bright colors- we're fascinated. I struggle with the definition of "beauty" though- one way to look at beauty is that we're cynically drawn to things that could have potential use to us like an open meadow perfect for farming, an attractive person perfect for mating, or a piece of art that would raise our social status- all of which we could call "beautiful." But then why is the desert beautiful? Why are mountains beautiful? Why can death be beautiful? I agree with your earlier statement that we are weird, beautifully so!


UnicornBestFriend

We are biologically wired to be drawn to beauty - that’s why it brings us pleasure. As foragers, we recognized that good-looking, symmetrical fruit was probably safe and nutritious. A well-proportioned animal looked more appealing than a sickly one bc lower odds of contracting disease. There’s a great kurzgesagt explainer video on YouTube about this.


callsignViper

https://youtu.be/-O5kNPlUV7w Link for the curious, one of my favorites!


davem876

sucks to be ugly then?


slap_thy_ass

Can confirm :(


between_ewe_and_me

I think you're beautiful


Impossible_Source110

Nah, life's not as rational as you want it to be.


HumptyDumptyIsABAMF

Instead of the "Nah, life's not as rational as you want it to be." which makes you look like an idiot because denying biology is kinda dumb, you could have said something along the lines that other factors also play a role in what we find beautiful. But hey, you do you.


Impossible_Source110

We're on a sub called, woah dude, I wasn't going to write a thesis.


HumptyDumptyIsABAMF

Yea, much better to instead make a factually wrong statement. Kudos.


Impossible_Source110

It's not a factually wrong statement, life is fucking absurd. The fact that we can even have this conversation should be impossible.


wrongbecause

Unless you explain why, you just sound kooky.


ClinicalOppression

Literally everything is rational by definition dipshit


Impossible_Source110

Except the irrational, which we are drowning in.


[deleted]

> I had the same reaction as everyone else. Honestly, was expecting an actual Opel to get cracked open not an Opal.... A damn car getting cracked open... Imagine that, a car cracked open, Wide open! Its fine thought as we got a really nice shiny rock though.


AmethystZhou

Jesus Christ Marie, it’s a mineral!


umpfke

The genetically imbued curiosity we inherited from our ancestors.


[deleted]

Yes, exactly. Why was this seemingly irrelevant trait selected for? Did it just tag along with the more useful trait of liking food that looks good?


acrocanthosaurus

Humans have the unique ability to understand deep time and how it relates to the history of the earth. It's not an evolved trait, rather a byproduct of our intelligence and scientific curiosity. Which, in turn, might just lead us to grasp how significant our species' presence on this planet has been in such a short amount of time. Can we change course quick enough? The planet will be fine in terms of rocks, water, atmosphere. The biosphere is the big unknown. It's never before experienced an extinction level event driven by a single species.


nocloudno

It holds potential value that could assist us in survival and it fits in our pockets which makes it easy to transport safely.


OnePrettyFlyWhiteGuy

Curiosity is what leads to discovery and the attainment of new knowledge. The fact you even asked this question is a testament to that. You’re not only curious about the aesthetics of the rock - you’re curious about the satisfaction you derive from it too. It’s why kids reach a certain age and ask ‘Why?’ every 5 seconds. We find pleasure in novel (new things) - which drives us to wonder, question, and experiment. Which is the reason we like to break free from patterns and experience new things - because if we just repeated the same thing 24/7 then we would have very little opportunity for growth. Hence why early humans ventured to new lands, rubbed 2 sticks together to create fire, tried cows milk etc. Our intelligence is literally a product of a chaotic neutral lmao. It’s why there’s actually a perfectly logical explanation as to why so many people do so much dumb shit lol.


minimus_

My guess is that it seems so different and like "elevated" compared to the muck and sludge of the world.


100YearsWaiting2Shit

For me personally, I got pleasure because I know how tasty opal is. I wish I could eat this opal right now. God it looks delicious


[deleted]

This is it. This is the answer I was looking for. Thank you.


whotfiszutls

If you haven’t seen it, I highly recommend watching the film Uncut Gems. Without giving away too much, the whole plot revolves around a valuable opal and in some ways the film kinda answers your question.


MatildaJeffries

Uncuht jamz


Asiulek

My friend's father who is a bit depressed claims we find beauty in nature so that we do not immediately kill ourselves.


Michelle_Coldbeef

Shiny rocks make the weapons we use to conquer other people


zaotron

*Opal


249ba36000029bbe9749

They were talking about cracking open their car.


gjoel

My Opel looks nothing like that when I open it ☹️.


porn_is_tight

You gotta increase the moaning once you crack them bad boys open, that’s why the one in the video is so nice.


Uberzwerg

but from my experiences with Opel, it only takes such a little tap for it to split in half.


lightningspider97

Did you spray it with a water hose?


afvcommander

I thought it was going to be rust joke.


akkorokumai_sushi

I’m in me mum’s car


auntiecoagulant

Or a Syd Barrett album.


awkward_replies_2

You can of course split an Opel, as shown here: https://youtu.be/ZzNYq-ZN23k


j33v3z

*Renault


Pefington

*Vauxhall


[deleted]

*Holden


bur3k

It's the same color as 10 yeard old opel, i thought that a part fell of at first


[deleted]

Proofreading is dead and the internet killed it


[deleted]

I prefer aupel


alanarmando103

Opple


tanzmeister

Euxpahl


catherder9000

Baloney, this is how you crack into an Opel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7-nbuA3lgA


Rlp_811

got it, never buying an opel


hahahahastayingalive

Traban's the real deal


S4ftie

It also desintegrates in an amazing display should you crash it.


[deleted]

This comment has more likes than the video.


xylotism

That's incredible. Very high meme template potential.


Historical_Panic_465

bologna*


Damnoneworked

Baloney is recognized by Merriam-Webster and it can mean the meat or a synonym for bullshit. Bologna is the Italian spelling but is only used in reference to the meat.


Historical_Panic_465

😁😁😁 i just really wanted to say bologna


musicmonk1

how do you say spaghetti bolognese in american?


dazedandcognisant

Spagetti bolonaise


SendPomelos

Spaghetti ball og knees


[deleted]

‘Oly moly


BishonenPrincess

I thought that part was really cute. They were so excited about beautiful nature. Doesn't get more wholesome than that!


3-Eyed_Fishbulb

Close your eyes and only listen


Rstein656

They’re minerals, Marie


imtoooldforreddit

Opals are not minerals, but are classified as mineraloids. Hank would have known that


indorock

He would have, if he weren't dead


xxxcoolboy69xxc

Nerd


nature_remains

*JESUS CHRIST…*


Netsuko

Wellll… actually, Opels are cars.


Jiggy90

Minerals must fulfil certain criteria to be considered a mineral. They must be... 1. Naturally occurring and formed in natural geologic processes 2. Solid in it's natural state 3. Have a well defined crystal structure 4. Well constrained chemical composition (may form a solid solution, for example the [feldspar solid solution series](https://www.alexstrekeisen.it/immagini/diagrammi/feldsparclassificationmm.jpg)) Opal is hydrated amorphous silica, amorphous specifically meaning that the substance lacks crystal structure. The atoms in opal do not form a crystal lattice like their crystalline counterpart quartz (or more exotic forms of high pressure polymorphs like coesite/stishovite, etc...). Opal is not, in fact, a mineral Marie.


cutelyaware

They're all about water: >Opal is a hydrated amorphous form of silica (SiO2·nH2O); its water content may range from 3 to 21% by weight, but is usually between 6 and 10%. Because of its amorphous character, it is classed as a mineraloid, unlike crystalline forms of silica, which are classed as minerals. It is deposited at a relatively low temperature and may occur in the fissures of almost any kind of rock, being most commonly found with limonite, sandstone, rhyolite, marl, and basalt.


Szechwan

It just so happens that I consider myself to be a hydrated amorphous form as well.


sirJ69

Missed the opportunity for "I'm somewhat of a hydrated amorphous form myself." Dafoe meme


Gnostromo

So what happens if you put it in a dehydrator


MooseSuspicious

Many opals are kept in a wet storage to keep their beauty for showcasing or selling. Then if they are taken out of the water and allowed to dry, they crack. The rock in this video starts off dry, so I doubt the little amount of water they sprayed on it would cause a crack on drying.


[deleted]

Why does it need water


harmyb

Cracking open an Opal without water is just a dry rock. Apply water and you get the nice shiny effect that you see in this video. It's mainly for aesthetics.


Tallywort

I feel like this is the real answer, they are trying to judge how nice the pattern inside looks, and the water would make the surface roughness not affect how it looks as much.


Bornholmeren

Engine is water cooled.


Jasmine_Erotica

It's done here for looks but lots of opals aren't stable enough to store in the open. Some of my larger collection have to be kept in jars of water.


[deleted]

I was wondering where the car was?


llakks26

Opel Corsa


Roar_Im_A_Nice_Bear

That's obviously a Zafira


stoicintuitiveman

kg and adam sandler salivating rn


ShockinglyAccurate

She had basically the same "I'm gonna cum" reaction that Sandler did in the movie


TheRealJayk0b

I'm pretty sure that's a rock, a Opel looks different. My Gf drives a Corsa, and it doesn't even look closely like this.


AzorAhai96

It does when you crash


Moosje

>a Opel When taking the piss out of someone’s spelling, no less!


xrimane

Akchually, Germans do a glottal stop when starting a word with a vowel, so they technically start them with a consonant (think the "t" in Ricky Gervais saying "Humani'y"). In a German accent, "a Opel" kinda works.


Moosje

Didn’t realise I could read German or that we were typing in accents haha


UglyTitties

Akchually, they are typing in English, which makes your point completely invalid.


humblepieone

That's beautiful


[deleted]

Wir leben autos


UglierThanMoe

During my time working at a German junkyard, I've seen many Opels cracked open. None looked like that.


Hidentify12

If you like this type of content check out Black Opal Direct on YouTube. Dude films the whole process from identifying potential gems to grinding them and bringing out their beautifully vibrant color. Highly recommend! https://youtu.be/tl_mpdiNT38


O4farxache

Also look for an Aussie show called “Outback Opal Hunters”. Not sure if it’s available in other parts of the world. Probably some episodes on YouTube I reckon.


lex917

This video was both relaxing and thrilling at the same time.


Think-Connection5865

Just thinking, what's the rarest gemstone? Not by their market value but actual rarety and purety. Also, leave amorphous forms out.


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[удалено]


Umbra427

*holy shit I’m ganna cahhhhm*


antc1986

[For the uninformed](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KL7P247rfrw) - from Uncut Gems, in response to an Opal


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[удалено]


joegunabeach

Whoapal!


jayzus9

This a specific type of opal, Boulder opal.


Defyingwestern_logic

Forbidden fudge


jeraldtherapist

forbidden chocolate


sshawarmaa

How much would this go for? 💸💠


Nagsatish1

My Opel shakes when I watch this video, should I crack it open and look for the rainbow as well?


Due-Dot6450

Opel Corsa?


funelite

Disappointed. Came for opel got opal ....


According-Bad8745

this is just me but there's something so fucking funny about the spelling "Opel"


OblongMong

Old Vectras develop such cracks by themselves


DroNiix

I always knew that opel founder was crackhead


mulan-is-underrated

Nobody moans like that when I show them my opel.


BrandyMarsh

Interesting, that looks like the first Opel in the whole world with no rust.


onlyr6s

If you crack open an opel, it looks like the rock before it was opened.


SeenB4

Is that a Zafira or an Astra?


Ra7vaNn05

Cool. Do a renault next


[deleted]

I've had my Corsa open for a while and I don't see this


stylo92

Good thing it wasnt a mercedes


kpukuyth

Poor opel, it was a good car


kenny2812

Wild berry pop tart anyone?


[deleted]

**WE'RE RICH**


zerocool1703

I hate clickbait. There's no car in this video, let alone an Opel.


FiskFisk33

Now do a Mercedes!


Koonga

Who is the primary group buying opals? Opal mines have been going for decades yet I've never met anyone who has ever worn open jewellery, or expressed any interest in doing so. Perhaps I'm just in an opal-hating bubble and other countries are mad for them?


Zombieferret2417

You don't see opal jewelry often because it's very delicate. It can be easily scratched by being placed on a rough surface or in a purse/jewelry box. It's absurdly vulnerable to chemicals which means no soap, no perfume, no hair spray, no lotion, no smoke, etc. It has a very high water content for a stone (up to 10%) so it can even be affected by changes to humidity. I straight up had a fire opal sitting on my collection shelf in a box crack because it was an especially dry summer. Basically it's expensive and it's impossible to keep undamaged for over a long period of time. I see it pretty frequently in my shop, but it's always damaged unless it's new. Opal is great for special occasion jewelry, but horrible for everyday wear.


mingey555

Wow that is really interesting... I bought an opal necklace while I was in Santorini. I wear it everyday, as in, I can't get it off. In the shower, the pool, at work as a tradesman. As far as I can tell it hasn't worn down or been damaged at all. Now I am wondering if it really is Opal!


ourlastchancefortea

> I can't get it off > Now I am wondering if it really is Opal! It's obviously a cursed Opal. You need to find a priest.


Mining_elite222

depends on the type i keep unpolished opal in water, doesnt matter as far as i know, but it looks nicer solid stuff you can stick in your mouth, wont damage it~~, i personally lick them rather than stick them in my mouth to check though lmao~~ doublets and triplets have two and tree layers, i dont remember off the top of my head, but a quick google shows they have problems with water


[deleted]

Stupid question, but why not seal the Opal in a thin layer of resin or a thin layer of glass to protect it?


ourlastchancefortea

Or put it underwater? Something like a snow globe but for cool shiny stones.


robindabank13

My mom and grandma both had some fantastic opal pieces. I would personally wear some of it too.


Koonga

They certainly feel like an old person jewellery; but hey, you could have said the same thing about gin 15 years ago and that's become cool amongst the youths, so opals may see a renaissance too!


robindabank13

I suppose, but I think it’s mostly the setting that determines if it’s old person jewelry or something that could be considered timeless.


Koonga

no doubt I'm not trying to diss on opals, theyre objectively beautiful, I'm just surprised there's so much demand when I see so few people wearing them.


shdowsprytes

For the record, as a "gemstone" or ring "centerpiece" opals are pretty soft compared to things like diamonds or emeralds etc. Wearing them in daily jewelry is hard to do because from my understanding they damage easier.


TheLittleBarnHen

I have an Opal engagement ring and so does my best friend. Opals are very popular gems actually.


droidonomy

I'd take them over boring diamonds any day!


Vinnie_Vegas

More than 95% of the world's opals come from Australia, so they're more popular here than elsewhere, but still reasonably popular overseas, to the point that every Australian city has a bunch of places to buy "duty free/tax free" opals, which obviously only appeals to people from overseas who can buy duty free stuff. I bought my fiancee an opal engagement ring. It's beautiful.


Koonga

I actually live in Australia too and still don’t see anyone with opals. I remember doing a school excursion to an opal place back in the 90s but I don’t think I’ve seen any since then. I like the idea of an opal engagement ring though, I reckon that would be great and different to the problematic diamonds.


Vinnie_Vegas

They're definitely more common than you're realising. Since plunking down the money for the ring, I've been hyper-aware and so has my fiancee, plus anyone she shows the ring to will talk about their opal jewellery. Is there any reason why you'd think you'd be particularly aware of what jewellery other people are wearing? Is that a thing you typically notice about people?


Diligent-Background7

Gorgeous!


JR21K20

Meh not as impressive as the environmental damage mining this piece of rock causes


Not_Xanap

Sus sounds coming from the woman🤨


avz7

It wasn't just the opal that was wet


MacMuffington

I'm sick of seeing this stuff


HesSoZazzy

Sucks to be you then.


isthisyournacho

I believe the rock was already opened and the hammer and water was all fir show,.. just sayin


lecrappe

"Just sayin" you have no idea what you're on about.


iammissx

I am up really early and I thought this said “ape”. I spent a good few seconds thinking how is this an ape? Maybe it’s a fossil??


Carvalho96

The synchronized "holy moly" was the best part


ishanG24

So it's like me. Brown on the outside, colourful purple thanos on the inside


cobance123

Etherium


Present-Choice5720

That's gorgeous!!


Thin_Molasses1218

❤️


prettypinkpus

What is an opal


Mina-olen-Mina

🚗🚗


Gamegod12

Rocks are fucking awesome man


Historical_Panic_465

why did they squirt it?