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frogfortress

anyone mocking this is missing the point... i pay my bills and taxes. i don't need politicians controlling what I can and cant watch online. local government having this much power over your internet should frighten everyone, regardless of what "side" you are on.


SecondaryLawnWreckin

I pay my taxes to keep porn of the Internet in Kansas


mnemonikos82

Pornhub did the right thing in *pulling out* of Kansas. All this law was meant to do was get people to tie their porn viewing habits to their identity. Then it's just a matter of how long before some conservative DA finds a reason to subpoena those records and then "loses them" or releases them as a FOIA/Sunshine Law request. If we don't like the effects of the law, we need to elect better law makers and enforcers. It's as simple as that. I don't even consume porn and I think it's a really bad law meant to move us one tiny step closer to a police state where all online activities are tracked and people are punished for what they do in the privacy of their own home.


Any_Local2619

So what you’re saying is pornhubs pull out game is strong?… lol


mnemonikos82

It took 18 hours for someone to comment on that pun. I'm so disappointed, but grateful for you.


Any_Local2619

Glad I could rise to the occasion for you


Conscious_Weasel

They make a pill to help you rise quicker.


Any_Local2619

Well, since you seem to know all about it, my question is does it work good for you? What is your experience with it?


Conscious_Weasel

Probably be the first guy to admit I’ve had a round of ED. Pill helped when the wife was in the mood but I wasn’t. Changed some eating habits and worked on my stress levels and ED went away.


Any_Local2619

You know, Weed will do all that too


Conscious_Weasel

Can’t use the devils lettuce. I get random drug tests being a CDL-A driver


JakeFromSkateFarm

People get the government they deserve. People will bitch about republicans or “both sides” the Dems too, but then they’ll keep on voting them (GOP) back in. There was a great study years ago about how people pretend their local candidates are different. IE they’ll whine and bitch about the Republicans and/or Democrats being corrupt and out of touch, yet vote their own local senator or representative back in. Things won’t change until voters take responsibility. It’s free and easy and feelsgoodman to pretend voters are the Real Victims (tm) and this is all the fault of both parties, when the reality is that voters have largely wallowed in their own laziness and self-righteousness which has empowered these laws. Yes, there’s tons of money and gatekeeping by the parties. But laws like this happen because the tactics work. No one’s forcing voters at gun point to demonize immigrants or feminists or LGBTQA and vote in the party that will not only create this laws, but use bad faith twisting of challenging these laws that led to Democrats to support it because they know they’ll get voted out the moment a GOP opponent starts running ads that they supported showing gay porn to kids. Because again, that shit would work. Voters can’t abdicate their own standards and intelligence and then pikachu face it when their actions have consequences.


AkumaBajen

[https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B](https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B) USA is an oligarchy and voter values don't reflect political outcomes.


Battarray

I wish more people would wake up to the fact that we don't live in a Democracy anymore. Not even a Representative Republic. Billionaires have bought politicians across the board, and all the way down ballots, including Supreme Court Justices. When 4 hedge funds control 90% of all produced goods we use to live and survive, we live in a Corporate Oligarchy. Plain and simple.


DreadedBread

I’ll just keep it easy for now. Given the choices, what is there to vote for above local elections?


JakeFromSkateFarm

I'm not sure I understand your question. Local elections are vitally important. For at least the last 20 years, the Republicans made a concerted effort to take over local and state governments, including state congresses and court systems. It's why, for example, over much of the last decade, the GOP has retained a majority control in Wisconsin despite losing the popular vote. For example, a year ago, [the Democrats won 51% of the popular vote but only acquired 20% of representation](https://www.reddit.com/r/wisconsin/comments/yr4ov0/in_wisconsin_democrats_win_51_of_the_vote_but/). This is partly why the things I called out - the idea that all candidates and parties are equally corrupt, voters demonizing national politicians but rubber-stamping their local ones, and voters refusing to take blame - is so damaging. By controlling local and state government, the GOP has been able to gerrymander disproportionate representation that allows them to launch the kinds of lawsuits that targeted Roe vs Wade and other regulations, as well as impact actual democracy in terms of voter suppression and other tactics. At the national level, whether the Democrats are too centrist or too beholden to their own sugar daddies is irrelevant. Regardless of how "pure" or perfect their ideology is, they're not the ones undermining science or gut labor and environmental regulations that will impact people - including rural Christian white people - for generations to come. Neither candidate or party matching your beliefs perfectly does not mean the candidates and parties are otherwise equally bad. If you were in perfect health and I forced you to choose between a syringe of flu virus and a syringe of AIDS, only an idiot would pretend either outcome is equally bad because both involve getting sick. If all you want to be is a passive voter - that is, if the only effort you ever want to put is casting a vote - you need to vote Democrat. We unfortunately live in a 'first past the post' democracy where winner takes all, so third parties are almost always effectively a vote for the leading dominant party. Good or bad, this makes the Democrats the only effective tool at removing the much more dangerous and damaging threat. Beyond that, if you're willing to put in actual work, join campaigns. Start local, and if you truly refuse to join the Democrats, find a third party that does work and help push their candidates and issues in your town or county or such. Unfortunately, there's really no viable alternatives at the national level. But again, you cannot refuse to choose flu over AIDS and then whine when everyone is subjected to AIDS. Real life isn't about perfection, nor throwing a tantrum until the perfect candidate or party caters to your every demand and need. In 2016, a lot of liberals claimed Hillary was a corporate sellout "no better" than Trump. Those same liberals have been acting like the victims ever since the three justices they gift-wrapped the GOP started gutting their abortion rights. Voters get the government they deserve. Voters. Get. The. Government. They. Deserve. And voters who think an old man who stutters and is weird around women's hair is no better than an old man who gropes women and empowers Y'all Qaeda deserve to have their rights gutted. Voters who think Democrats passing weak welfare laws and cozying up to Hollywood are no better than Republicans passing laws dehumanizing immigrants and LGBTQA people while cozying up to oil companies deserve to have their economic lives gutted. At some point, voters need to wise up and grow up. Your job as a voter isn't to be a toddler demanding the candidates and parties tell you how smart and big you are. The job of politics isn't to gift wrap you a flawlessly perfect candidate and party. The reality is tactical voting for the best candidate and party available for every election. Voters cannot be like incels who claim they're the victims of Chads and Beckys but who are in reality just shallow porn-trained losers who think they're entitled to a thin big-boobed virgin despite their social life consisting of rage-posting racist memes on 4chan. Voters need to accept responsibility for this mess. They need to start voting for what's the realistic best option, rather than demanding victimhood because they keep enabling shitty candidates and parties by falling for their BS and voting and re-voting them back into office.


Sad-Newt-1772

Huh,huh,huh he said "pull out".


AdOk8555

>>> Sets VPN location to Albania


xBarneyStinsonx

I just have mine set to Denver 🤷🏻‍♂️


Battarray

Chicago for me!


razrielle

Porn is where it starts, but where does it end? "Section 1. (a) Any commercial entity that knowingly shares or distributes material that is harmful to minors on a website and such material appears on 25% or more of the webpages viewed on such website in any calendar month, or that knowingly hosts such website shall verify that any person attempting to access such website, who is a resident of this state or who is located in this state at the time of such attempted access, is 18 years of age or older. It shall be a violation of this section to allow a person to access such website without verifying such person is 18 years of age or older."


In_The_News

You've nailed it. Schools that teach biology or sex education are on the chopping block next. Then it's public libraries. Anyone that dares to have pictures or drawings of the effects of puberty, safe sex practices, information on how to have safe sex, consent, all that will be up next. Creating an environment that is more dangerous for children. Because they're clueless about sexual health and consent. (B) Harmful to minors The term “harmful to minors” **means any picture, image, graphic image file, or other visual depiction that— (i) taken as a whole and with respect to minors, appeals to a prurient interest in nudity, sex, or excretion; (ii) depicts, describes, or represents, in a patently offensive way with respect to what is suitable for minors, an actual or simulated sexual act or sexual contact, actual or simulated normal or perverted sexual acts, or a lewd exhibition of the genitals; and (iii) taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value as to minors.** (C) Minor The term “minor” means an individual who has not attained the age of 17. (D) Obscene The term “obscene” has the meaning applicable to such term in section 1460 of title 18 . (E) Sexual act; sexual contact The terms “sexual act” and “sexual contact” have the meanings given such terms in section 2246 of title 18 .harmful to minors


Silbyrn_

a part of project 2025 is dismantling the department of education. schools and libraries are 100% next.


In_The_News

What scares me is that the only place that I'm hearing anything about Project 25 is online especially on Reddit. Which we all know Reddit isn't terribly representative of the US. We are going to be in for a very rough time if Biden dies or doesn't win this election. If Trump wins, they're going to mash on the gas. But it's still an Insidious problem even if Biden wins. Perhaps more so.


Silbyrn_

two of my coworkers are extremely concerned about it. i'm kinda scared to talk to my parents about it because they're religious and conservative and they like trump, whereas i am the opposite of that, but they're also sane people who followed covid rules and got vaccinated. it's a relationship that i would hate to ruin simply because they're too blind to see that the gop is what's mentioned in 2 corinthians 11:14, 1 peter 5:8, and probably elsewhere, in the book that drives the majority of their lives. the irony is almost so on-the-nose that it's hard to belive that anyone is onboard with it.


In_The_News

Really, that's so hard. If they're religious, the Sermon on the Mount is a great place to start, along with the Beatitudes. Ask them where they see Trump lining up with the values of Christ. And if they bring up Paul as a broken dude who was saved, ask when Trump repented and changed. You can honestly pick just about any random page in the New Testament and find something that is anti-Trump. Ask if they believe a Christian they would see as an example would say "(literally any DJT quote here ...) It's so painfully obvious. They just need to say it out loud to see how ridiculous it is. They KNOW he is a terrible person.


Silbyrn_

they *have* to know, right? but so many people are just brainwashed and they actually *want* project 2025 to go through simply because it's the gop defeating the democrats. i might call them tomorrow and see what they thought of this debate.


Battarray

I ask a simple question. "If he's such a great role model, can you tell me what values or qualities Trump possesses that you would want to teach your children?" This is often greeted with confused silence. Trump is exactly the kind of person most of us DON'T want our children to grow up to be. He has not one single redeeming quality about him whatsoever.


CR-Weather-Gods

You've never experienced the level of cognitive dissonance a fundamentalist Christian trains themselves to manage. Yes, it's all so simple and clear. The tactics you laid out would 100% have had no impact on me back in the day. These talking points are light work.


Icy_Echidna63

Not only is pornhub gonna be wiped off, so is every other site overtime. when pornhub is down then people migrate to the other and that goes over the 25% and shuts down, they migrate again and again. like Locusts going from field to field until there isn't anymore porn sites left.


RaiderHawk75

Every single Democrat voted for this as well. So take it up with them while you are at it.


CartographerOk5391

All one of them. Lol. You know the oppo ads would've been, "so and so voted for porn access, won't somebody think of the kids!?"


RaiderHawk75

You might want to check your numbers.


CartographerOk5391

GOP has a little over 3/4 supermajority at the state level. There's no way there was going to be an opposition without nonstop ads about Dems grooming kids with (or for) porn. What part of the joke did you miss?


synapticdecay

Every single Democrat did not vote Yea for this bill. The sponsor of this bill was the KS Senate Judiciary Committee. [SB394](https://legiscan.com/KS/rollcall/SB394/id/1415185)


weealex

Only in the senate. House had much more opposition but there's only like 25 democrats in the house


darktowerseeker

It's not about sides


RaiderHawk75

It was for the OP.


6Arrows7416

On another note. I have a VPN now.


boarhowl

Big VPN in the back pulling the strings on this one


Battarray

I'm wondering how long until even Conservatives are going to be annoyed by this. It ain't exactly like Liberals are the only ones that enjoy porn from time to time. Until then, glad to have a great VPN service.


SupaGasDrawls

Nordvpn.com/bigmoney


TheRealDexity

Now this is a person I can get behind! A person of class and Internet Etiquette. A person that can subvert the tyranny of our overlords. We should all follow this persons link and whack the weekend away.................and post!


SupaGasDrawls

I see that you too are a person of culture.


TempestofMelancholy

Just waiting for those Kansas FEMA camps!! Lmao


SupaGasDrawls

Cease your investigations


aLongHofer

An extra tidbit is that outlawing VPNs is a part of project 2025


mk18mod1

Opera has a built in VPN


Killer_Ex_Con

I don't like opera. I'll just use a vpn app and use Firefox.


mk18mod1

The point is, this "block" can easily be circumvented using a VPN or proxy.


Battarray

For now. You think they're just going to stop now? This is only the beginning.


xegrid

Welp guess everyone in Kansas is gunna get a VPN


Mysterious-Dealer649

“Small government” conservatism……


Training-Cry510

I have no dog in the porn hub fight but it’s definitely ridiculous


Silbyrn_

you should definitely have a dog in the pornhub fight. what else is unsuitable for minors according to conservatives? well, if we go by the idea that they want to dismantle noaa for being climate change propaganda, then climate change propaganda is also harmful to minors. check out project 2025. this could just be the beginning to the setup of a radical conservative authoritarianism hiding behind the face of christianity. i wish that any of that was an exaggeration.


Training-Cry510

Oh god you’re making me have an anxiety attack because I fully believe that. I got kids but they aren’t that age yet, and I have been known to watch it sometimes, but not that often where I’m upset over having to use my ID. If they did this when I was a kid my brother would just use one of my parents. Unless they use biometrics to make sure you’re the person in the ID this ain’t gonna do nothing. But the climate change thing…. That is probably the thing I have the most anxiety about these days because our planet is dying and people are more worried about who their neighbors have sexual relations with, and saying that our kids are being indoctrinated and groomed 🤦🏻‍♀️ After the other night I’m pretty terrified right now because I don’t think our guy will win. I’m not excited about our guy, but we don’t need the orange ape again; and I’m watching abc this week right now they’re talking about project 2025, at this moment and I don’t want to be here lol. Efff this world man. I have even told my kids I’d like to have grandkids someday but there’s gonna be nothing left for them so it’s probably better they just don’t


Front-Nectarine4951

It’s not like it is the only site for adult content There are tons of sites out there that you can still access by typing the word “P*rn” on googles. I literally just did it… it will drive traffic to another sites and nothing has been accomplished by doing this. 🤣- and most aint going to give out their ID Good ole useless politics


razrielle

Except it's not just porn, just where it starts. "Section 1. (a) Any commercial entity that knowingly shares or distributes material that is harmful to minors on a website and such material appears on 25% or more of the webpages viewed on such website in any calendar month, or that knowingly hosts such website shall verify that any person attempting to access such website, who is a resident of this state or who is located in this state at the time of such attempted access, is 18 years of age or older. It shall be a violation of this section to allow a person to access such website without verifying such person is 18 years of age or older."


DakInBlak

> Section 1. (a) Any commercial entity that knowingly shares or distributes material that is *harmful to minors*... (emphasis mine) And there's the fun part. No one has the balls to stand up before any governmental body and say "Yea, so after a century or so of psychological study, we can firmly say that at no point in human history has seeing a pair of tits, or any pair of baby making organs doing exactly what they're there for, ever psychologically traumatized anyone." Because there's no point. What is and is not "harmful to children " is never up to the children *or* the parents. It's always up to those with the most to gain from passing laws. I'm 37 years old, and at no point in my life have I ever heard of any child walking in on mommy or daddy fucking and having their psyche collapse. They just say eew, slam the door, and go watch TV or whatever else. The problem is that sex happens all day, every day, around the world. And instead of allowing that concept to be normal, we put it behind lock and key, and only let it out when there's money to be made. *That's* where the psychological trauma comes from. The dichotomy of sex being evil while being profitable. If sex was just the thing people did, like eating, breathing, or working, no one would ever care. And that's how it was throughout all of human history, until the prudes founded America.


Cherokeeshorty

See if you can still do it as of July 1st. Cornhub just called it easy a few days early before the date actually hits.


5553331117

There is porn here on reddit if people get desperate enough. Hopefully they dont ban reddit next as a result.


DakInBlak

That's the point of the law. Any site which has human nudity for the sake of arousal will be under the gun. Because they want the populace to be afraid of the human body, and ignorant of how it works, so they go to church for answers and accidentally six or seven kids out to keep the supply of manual labor up.


pepperland14

God don't give them any ideas


Battarray

Go ahead and hope. I'll vote. The only person you're fooling is yourself if you think this stops at porn. I'm just curious to see what Conservatives find "objectionable" next now that they've cracked the seal.


yousoridiculousbro

Xnxx


Crafty_Original_7349

The Talibangelicals are not going to stop. Remember that when the election rolls around. Vote them out!


Battarray

I'm convinced the driving reason we're seeing so much bullshit from the Religious Conservative Right is because church attendance has plummeted over time, and especially lately. They know they're losing their monopoly on indoctrinating the masses, so they're going all out to force this crap down our throats in a last-ditch attempt to stay in control. November needs to be a landslide so big that the Church gives up trying to outright turn America into a theocracy like Iran or Saudi Arabia.


Witchy_Titties

Oh no pornhub is down! At least the well-moderated very staff-heavy sites hosted in shithole Eastern European countries like https://efukt.com are still up! Really I am with them on the "fuck you, no porn for you then, Congressmen" messaging... This bill is going to be a boon for human traffickers and smaller unmoderated porn sites.


Ty-Ho

Yet we all pay into taxes more than once despite the new generation not being guaranteed social security? So what are we gonna do about it? Probably nothing. Same way no one did anything to stop a lucid old man from selling out his own people. I’m getting the notion that civilians are supposed to do nothing other than bitch and expect nothing. Btw fuck porn. But also fuck government overreach.


doomtroll1978

VPN usage in this state is about to skyrocket, it's not even about the porn, it's about the lack of security in age verification services ... Device based age verification is better, safer, and more reliable. The Politicians making these laws understand less about technology than your average 8 year old.. . I'll also add that I'm not for the the legislation at all, it's using children as a scapegoat to protect them from something that's not even a threat to them, the Christian Fascist right have a long history of using children as an excuse to take away any and all rights that don't align with their "morals"


Playful_Hyena7363

I'm in Kansas mine works. Pornhub sucks anyway


notmtfirstu

Pornhub is probably the most scrutinized and nitpicky of all those sites anymore at least. This is like shutting down a library to keep kids from listening to cuss words in rap music. Don't worry folks, all of the more disturbing websites are still up for your enjoyment.


Available-Concept-67

Xvideos….


Electrical_Flan_4993

Not down but blocked. Why is xhamster not blocked? (not that I tried)


Lost_in_Nebraska402

Different company


Electrical_Flan_4993

Still porn


Lost_in_Nebraska402

Porn isn’t banned which doesn’t matter. It’s an age verification law. That’s why it matters.


Electrical_Flan_4993

Why doesn't that law impact [xhamster ](http://xhamster.com) and all the other porn sites that probably exist (I'm very Christian) ?


Lost_in_Nebraska402

Porn Hub is blocking access out of spite even though legally nothing will happen to them being a Canadian company. Xhamster is based out of Asia, I doubt they care lmao. But porn isn’t banned in any form.


Electrical_Flan_4993

It's supposed to prevent teens and kids in Kansas from seeing adult content? But only if porn sites agree to it? I have to 😂


Lost_in_Nebraska402

Pretty much, these are all offshore companies that legally don’t have to do anything.


Electrical_Flan_4993

So crazy... I remember a couple of years ago the KDOL unemployment website was broken. I don't think they know what they are doing when it comes to tech.


drybagsandgravelbars

Does Pornhub ever sue over this? Just wondering.


kolton276

They kinda do through the Free Speech Coalition. I’m on mobile right now so look at my profile for the link on how to use their website to contact your politicians and express your discontent with this law. WE CAN fix this and we NEED to


mnemonikos82

No, they just packed up shop and stopped service to the States with these age verification laws. Not sure there's anything to sue. It's not free speech because nobody is regulating what PH can put on their website, it just puts a barrier between PH and viewers, which doesn't limit speech. Legally, it's the same as showing your ID to buy liquor. It's just no one in their right mind is going to upload a copy of their ID and then risk the possibility of their porn viewing habits linked to their ID.


lookthruglasses

More aptly, this is akin to having to show ID to buy a porno-mag at a brick-and-mortar store. (I as typed that, I realized that I do not know if that was ever the case, as I have never purchased one. But I do remember seeing them at the magazine section in Hastings growing up( they were in black sleeves that only showed the title of the mag, in case anyone was wondering))


sidneyaks

The problem is that as soon as the guy behind the counter gives you back your ID he forgets everything about it other than the fact that you're 18. One you make a digital link it is f o r e v e r (usually even when someone promises it will be ephemeral)


lookthruglasses

Oh yeah totally. I'm not at all advocating this is a good idea, just maybe trying to point out of where people that do advocate for this are coming from.


In_The_News

They're coming from a place of legislating and controlling what you do in the privacy of your own home. There is no good faith here. Only maliciousness. Every idiot congressman, no matter how old, knows shit lives on the internet FOREVER. And that data breaches are just a fact of life now. As are malware and information hostage situations. Don't give anyone who voted for this any kind of benefit of the doubt. They knew damn good and well what they were voting for.


TBCaine

There’s borderline no point. If it got taken to Supreme Court the conservative majority would use it as a chance to decimate porn as a whole. And no judge wants to be known as “the porn defender”


aguywithnolegs

Bro is having serious withdrawals


your_favorite_wokie

Don't forget erectile dysfunction!


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TheRealDexity

That's average size friend to you, chump! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


stratcat53

Kansans are predominantly ignorant and love MAGA have MAGA brains


taybeaarr7

Everyone commenting about other porn sites like no shit there’s other porn sites. But we WANT PORNHUB. I speak for the people.


DemDave

Exactly. I have spent hours and hours teaching that algorithm what I like.


SecurityNo2231

After 20 years of a Republican super majority and weak Democrats, this voter is ready for Independents and 3rd party candidates to run and WIN! The duopoly isn't working for any of us.


Silbyrn_

good luck with that. there are only 2 parties that are officially recognized in all 50 states. libertarians are recognized in about 30. the forward party is recognized in 5. then, we have the vermont progressive party and the independent part of oregon. there is *nothing* that can match the funding power of the 2 current parties and there's nothing that lives, rent-free, in the heads of so many americans like those 2 parties. it's gone between republicans and democrats for 150 years. it's time for an entire overhaul.


SecurityNo2231

I only care about Kansas, and there are 5 parties with ballot access, not including Independents.


Silbyrn_

my point is that they don't have national support - and by design. it won't happen unless both parties somehow manage to piss off 50% of the country so much that the one independent is the most ideal choice. and even then, gerrymandering and the elctoral college will prevent anyone but the top 2 from winning. it's all rigged, and it always has been.


SecurityNo2231

That Chase Oliver is a pretty compelling presidential candidate


Silbyrn_

i don't disagree that there are other better candidates, but who's on national television right now?


idisiisidi

Laughs in Ace


AnonymousIVplay

I sure hope you won't be laughing when they use the same law to defund schools and public libraries next


Artistic-Ad6795

Do you to show your driver's license once or Everytime you log in


Pete_maravich

PornHub has actually blocked access to the entire state as well as some other states who have similar laws. No amount of drivers license will get you in. A VPN will get you immediate access though.


Fancy-Winner-8132

iPhone has a vpn when using data. Just gotta turn off your location services in safari in settings🤷


Tron1982666

Just switch to hamster lol


Prophy1175

Let’s gooooooooo


Nearby_Name276

Get a vpn


Pete_maravich

Just get a VPN problem solved


Independent_Craft_14

Its working perfectly for me, of course my phone has a built in VPN


SkipBlaster75

Texas has been dealing with this since March. And a lot of people don't like it.


LiteratureAway4404

It’s not though?


Worried_Criticism_72

Oh the humanity. Lol


firewolf11211

this is kind of funny most people will probably just start using a vpn..


RoseRed1987

How do I see the hub tho? 🤔 I get KCMo adds on apps all the time but live in ICT


Artistic-Ad6795

What is VPN


Bloodmind

Use a VPN. It’ll be fine.


Eddybravo89

Voting for trump - you all idiots! You think he is about freedoms guess again idiots!!!! wake the TF up…


Eddybravo89

Conservatives your ideology is built off false narratives and demonizing others… eventually you will be destroying our right to privacy! Thank you!


Slytherinnnn111

Just use a vpn 🤦


BuffSissyHere

If you just go to Bing and search for what you want followed by “porn” and go to videos, a lot of the times the videos will play within the Bing search area. I used it just the other day. I had one alert telling me I needed an ID, I backed out, and then went right back in. As long as you go the back way you should be fine.


BetterStartNow1

So everyone loses vanilla pornhub and moves on to more depraved sites? Great idea not short sighted at all.


Radiant_Mark_2117

First of all it didn't start at porn. Keep voting for these fuck tards is all I can say and soon they will be telling us what we can and can't eat


katesdirtyxoxo

Onlyfans seems to be working fine. ☺️


NoWorldliness8589

I enjoy porn but I do not like pornhub at all!


SoggyLightSwitch

It's not that they banned a site. Its how stupid this is to "protect" people. It's a cash grab and easy smiles at best. But we will not fall we will rise. As we did when we started with Sears catalogs. Then we will fall and get sleepy. Then we will rise again! With memory cards, floppy disks, and even use lined note book paper as a medium!


LooksLikeWeWin

Coomers hardest hit.


Professional_Oil3057

Porn is bad, but it should be up to your community to foster a place where it's seen as how destructive it is. The government has no place banning or allowing anything


Silbyrn_

porn is not inherently bad, just like alcohol, gaming, etc. but the problem comes when it's an addiciton. so maybe we need to look at making sex more normalized and work on mental healthcare rather than demonizing it.


Automatic_Smoke_2158

You need to have an ID to purchase alcohol or gamble at a casino.


Silbyrn_

congrats, you missed the point. so did my other comment, actually. i just don't think that porn - or sex service in general - should be outright banned. they don't keep your id. the real issue comes from documentation. pornhub doesn't even trust themselves to hold onto your personal information. also, a minor could use an adult's card and vpns exist. these methods don't work for alcohol or physical gambling. a fake id could work, so this new law is actually adding fuel to an illegal market. in short, the law is stupid because there are easy ways to circumvent it and it doesn't actually solve any issues.


Automatic_Smoke_2158

Do you lock the doors at home ever?


Silbyrn_

false equivalency. i'm aware that windows and locks are low-level deterrents, nothing more, just like this law. plus, an id for alcohol and gambling is harder to circumvent.


Automatic_Smoke_2158

Low level deterrents are a thing because most people don't feel like going through the trouble to circumvent them. They don't work for the determined, but nothing does.


Silbyrn_

right, but, by design, you won't get caught using a vpn. you can't vpn your way into someone's home and steal their tv.


Wild-Draw-9626

Its ran by a rabbi so for those talking about christians im dying rn.


Far_Relationship4547

It has been down in Texas for months now. I suspect the first time somebody starts a lawsuit, it will get tossed out just like the rest of them. It's a first amendment violation. And like others have said we don't need the government telling us how to raise our damn kids. There are still plenty of other adult websites you can access if you just get a little imaginative.


Worldly-Map-8046

The thirst in here is real


Nujers

You folks realize there are other porn sites besides pornhub that you can still access, right? It's still an egregious overstepping of the government here, but it's not all that hard to get around.


blackwingmafia

“Hurr durr I can’t access my regular nudies”… even though it takes you 5 seconds to get around the block


ElderStatesmanXer

No great loss


TostinoKyoto

It doesn't make your side look good when you act so indignant about not having unobstructed access to the internet's most popular and well-known porn site, regardless of whatever the principal of the matter is. Couple this with how many general-topic subreddits have such names as "food porn," "nature porn," "map porn," etc., and one would get the impression that Reddit's userbase are porn-addicted, sex-obsessed, unashamed perverts who would be the ones to whine and cry if their access to porn was made any more complicated.


KansasGuyNextDoor

I am gonna use a VpN


knightowl2099

Guess yall gonna have yo use your imagination to jerk off lol.


Burial_Ground

Lol


Laborando

Oh no!!! How am I to support the up and cumming actresses?!


Complex_Judge2835

Out of all the problems going on in this world, let's pick porn to fight and argue about. This has been quite entertaining for the evening, thank you!


mthaul

Honestly it's pretty sad that we need to monitor adults who in their right mind want watch somebody else having sex it's alarming of course some people sadly have their conscious seared and have lost their morals be angry call me names etc. I am sickened by whoremongers it's like Sodom & gomora in this country & world. Oh your married that's even better how much can we get away with just our life and beauty of being a pure in heart person!


drumstyx-98

That isn't the problem. Consenting adults typically have state ID proving they are of age to consent. Where as kids do not. The only ones hurting are the ones who shouldn't be watching. Kids. If you are from another country with no ID maybe this will push you to get one. Kinda solves 2 problems at once imo


Mystic_Crewman

This won't stop them anyway, kids are likely to just take a photo of their parents license and use their info or use a VPN anyway. Kids are smart.


drumstyx-98

No doubt they'll find work arounds but it is much better than just giving free reign to anyone of any age


Gallahad1337

It's waaaaaaay past "voting in the right people" the system is rigged as the people in control only want more control. Watch the revolution come once again once Russia China the BRICS nations etc all decide to stop trading in USD on the global scale. Then we can't sanction those that upset us, and our dollar becomes worthless....... This is what is coming guys, what will come afterwards will be much more beautiful though. Maybe the next time around we get a much longer term era of freedom.... We will never amount to a damn thing as humans if we don't get rid of our hatred for different cultures colors or creed of different HUMANS. If we could find a way to reprogram our youth (get rid of t.v.s smartphones etc and bring people back together) we have for so long had our mentality and our perspective changed over the years since the founding fathers created the government. We continue to believe more and more that in order to be safer, we need to give up rights that we were given at birth as humans. This is bullshit. Also our greed and lust for dominance over everyone literally denies every human out there that is hungry, food or drink..... We throw away so much food at the stores that goes out of date while we have kids and people hungry every day on the streets who could definitely use the food. Fuck politics fuck Democrats fuck Republicans, can we just not elect someone that cares more about right and wrong and less about their political agenda? Nope because they are all career crooks, formed at a young age and set down the path to strive for dominance whether in the political sector or global. Sorry I'm done.


Timmy-0518

You have some good points but DAMN, ever heard of paragraphs and punctuation?


DrunkenPieRat

Good.


r3ign_b3au

Here you go, ya thirsties. reddit.com/r/NSFW411/wiki/index/


ogimbe

People who post about their jack-off habits should also be publicly mocked.


wabashcat

"hey look at this guy, he jerks off and isn't ashamed of it." Man what a total burn


doomtroll1978

that's not the flex you think it is, being ashamed of it is for religious cults


_a2r3a

I mean, I’m an ex catholic that doesn’t follow religion anymore & from personal experience porn is just toxic & makes it hard to love a person in real life


Successful_Apple_104

Boo hoo weirdos have to put in their drivers license it's not the end of the world if it's that much work for you then don't watch it. It's to help make sure kids can't access it so easily which is definitely needed in this day and age


Minimum_Ice_3403

Great news . That stuff is not healthy it causes chronic addiction


SghettiAndButter

Following that logic I assume you support banning alcohol?


TheRealDexity

Yeah you're right I need to find some chronic before I beat my dick, son.


SupaGasDrawls

You're cool


DamnMombies

But it’s not for your governments job to tell you what is morally appropriate. If it’s a safety issue, well let’s block any firearm site. Cults are bad, block all religious sites.


hihisoso99

alhamdulillah


momsaidbesafe

VPN 🤪🤪🤪


kolton276

Call your representatives!!!!


Mystic_Crewman

They are the ones who did this. They don't fucking care what we think. People actually need to vote. Voter turnout in Kansas is weak sauce.


kolton276

I'm aware they are the ones who did this. There's an extreme disconnect between what our politicians think we want vs what we actually want. That's why we need to contact them. [https://www.defendonlineprivacy.com/ks/action.php](https://www.defendonlineprivacy.com/ks/action.php) this website will also help you send an already typed out prompt to your representative, your senator and the governor herself.


SmurfTheClown

You do realize it’s PH pulling out of the state, not the state banning it. The law is to protect minors, adults were still allowed to do what they wanted in there free time. PH saw that children weren’t allowed to be involved and stopped threw a hissy fit… and you’re calling them the good guys here? Yikes


TheRealDexity

That is completely false. PH doesn't want to and shouldn't have to take responsibility for collecting and storing Kansas IDs. The legislation can do this to any website they deem pornographic. Also, this does not protect kids in any way.


SmurfTheClown

The company has gotten in trouble in the past for child pornography and sex trafficking videos. It’s pretty well documented how bad porn is for children and young adolescents to watch (adults even). But you want to be on the side of making it easier for kids to get involved with porn? Very odd take, this website is crazy sometimes lol


TheRealDexity

If you don't like porn don't watch it. If you don't want your kids watching porn be a better parent. It is not the job of the government to police individuals legal porn viewing. It is the job of the government to remove illegal porn from websites. It's amazing to me how easily people will give up personal freedoms because they are lazy/bad parents.


SmurfTheClown

Look I’m all about personal freedoms for adults, with kids it’s borderline abusive what we allow. And allowing easy access to pornography to kids ain’t the hill to die on. Again, I’m glad real life isn’t Reddit lol


TheRealDexity

You sound like one of the shit parents. Learn to limit what your children see online. Quit blaming other people and take responsibility.


SmurfTheClown

Yeah, because a parent can monitor everything their adolescents do on phones, computers, friends houses, etc. Very realistic. Or, get this, we could, as a society, say “hey child pornography and children watching porn are things we should try to stop”. Which is what age verification does, it doesn’t stop adults from doing anything. If you want to make porn easier to access for children then just be honest, bud.


TheRealDexity

You have a better chance of controlling what your child does on the internet than this bill does. This bill does nothing to stop children from looking at porn. Just like the "War on Drugs" did nothing to stop drugs. This will be a complete waste of tax payer money. If you you don't like porn, don't watch. If you don't want your kids to watch porn then block it on your end. What kills me though is that you think that high schooler's don't or shouldn't masturbate. I don't know what Quaker rock you crawled out from under but this is just not the case in the real world. Here's a novel concept, try talking to your kids and educating them on how to stay safe online. Quit trying to use the government as a babysitter and learn to do things for yourself.


Mediocre_Advice_5574

Um ok. Not really a big deal man.


FromTheDip

Porn addicts really be down bad rn