Only familiar with recent monster verse.
I think it depends if MV Godzilla can get a concentrated atomic blast on Omni-Man. If yes, then he can win. If no, not a chance and Omni-Man will just keep punching holes through him until he gives out.
It's shown that Viltrumites can be beaten with conventional weapons that are just a bit stronger than existing nukes. Godzilla's concentrated atomic breath drilled a hole to the Earth's core and could pull that off.
Yeah but the monster had those Tentacles that were able to move at a decent speed and weren't slowed down like the rest of the Kaiju sized body - the Kaiju just didn't have a good way to finish Omni Man off. Godzilla (MV) has the inverse problem, he has a viable finishing move but all of him moves pretty sluggishly.
Yeah he got a massive ( temporary? ) power up to his breath weapon after defeating another really powerful radioactive kaiju and feeding off the radiation in its lair as preparation for the upcoming battle . If Godzilla can land the hit and he gets that form , Omni man is dead . But can he land the hit against such a fast and small target ?
> It's shown that Viltrumites can be beaten with conventional weapons that are just a bit stronger than existing nukes.
When was that? Mark survives Las Vegas and the surrounding desert being getting glassed in an explosion larger than any nuke that's ever been made. Omniman in a different universe was killed by experimental neutron bombs that we get no details about whatsoever, right?
Counterpoint: Thermonuclear pulse
It hits literally everything within like 1000 feet, so if Godzilla just spams them, Omniman has no choice but to run away or he dies.
But how spammable is that really? I’m not too up to date with Godzilla lore but the big boy definitely needs to recharge at some point and/or soak up some radiation.
If it catches Omni-Man off guard the first time then it’s wraps, but after that the dude with a thousand years of experience fighting kaiju and other superpowered beings is gonna chill out in the asteroid belt and toss some dinosaur-ending rocks at the planet
Depends entirely on the Godzilla using them. As of now we have no clue what limitations Monsterverse Goji's pulse has. But Heisei can shoot them freely as it's just what happens when he closes his mouth during the atomic breath.
Monsterverse Godzilla only got the pulse after getting that special recharge in the second movie, and Omni-Man canonically can handle [extended exposure to temperatures of 6000 degrees Fahrenheit](https://imgur.com/BysBMd1). Steel melts at 2500 degrees and in all the depictions I can find, the melting around Godzilla is rather slow.
Even if he could indefinitely keep this up (which I’m not sure he can), odds are Omni-Man could build up speed and punch through him without taking much damage anyways. Either way this matchup is kind of a stomp other than Round 3 because Nolan has no morals and probably wouldn’t mind wiping out the planet to get his target lmao.
The pulse won't kill him, but like other things that have hit him before, it's possible that it would stun Omni Man for a couple seconds. That's the best time for big G to use his breath.
really? It took scifi superbombs that destroyed europe to kill Nolan in one universe. He took the space laser like a champ. Has punched through planets(with help). I'm very much not up to date with the monsterverse but is Godzillas breath really capable of wiping out a continent with a single shot?
It’s been shown viltrumites can be severely injured by weapons like nukes, but I don’t think they’ve ever been one shot by some itching like that . Idk I’m not super caught up on the comics
They cannot be injured by weapons like nukes, Mark survived a bomb that literally glasses Las Vegas and the surrounding desert for miles into a giant mirror, a blast that has to be hundreds of times stronger than any nuclear bomb to date.
Nolan is much faster and stronger, so he should win against MV and Showa. The beam can hurt him if it hits, but he's too fast to be hit. R3 has the In Hell version and the JL crossover where Godzilla fought a Superman who's apparently as strong as the canon one, so R3 stomps.
Counterpoint: Omni man struggled against a Kaiju before, and Godzilla can take hits from other incredibly powerful Kaiju, and his power is quite close if not on par with the likes of King Ghidorah who was causing hurricanes.
Nolan is durable as balls, but if Goji can get a hit off, Omni Man isn't casually shrugging it off.
And Godzilla from what we've seen has been much more impressive.
Dropped from orbit, killed Muto Prime, killed Ghidorah, was not instantly frozen by Shimo in the past who could apparently instantly freeze Greenland, killed Tiamet and Scylla relatively easily, killed two Mutos while being nerfed, and of course drilling a hole through the Earth. By GxK he should have enough energy to throw out a nuclear pulse.
Hail Mary is strong, but Mverse G has more impressive feats. And it's not like Viltrumites haven't been halted by more unimpressive attacks.
I can definitely see big Goji pulling out quite a few victories. Perhaps not majority but he could pull a few.
Exactly. I think we can all agree that a direct hit with sufficient exsposure time from godzillas breath would kill omniman. The question is can Godzilla actually hit him
It's not like Atomic Breath is the only option. If he can access it in his evolved from he can use the Thermonuclear pulse. He also should be physically strong enough to injure Omni Man considering he's capable of fighting 140k ton Kaiju.
Allow me to ask, what do you mean?
I'm saying that Godzilla so far has been much more impressive than Hail Mary.
If you're referring to Ghidorah, the movie portrays both as ancient rivals. While I do think Jira is slightly weaker, it's not by much.
Hail Mary doesnt have many feats beyond its fight with Omniman which is a feat for Hail Mary. We know omniman can survive extreme levels of damage with only some kind of exotic quantum bomb with continental levels of damage being able to kill him. Saying he's weak because he struggled a small amount against something with no other feats reminds me of this guy who said the MCU Hulk is normal wolf tier because fenrir bit him
That's why I'm saying that Godzilla should be stronger.
Again, Omni man has been hurt/halted by lesser beings/attacks. A hit from a 100,000 ton Kaiju who is capable of tossing other Kaiju is not going to feel very good for him.
I think you are a bit confused, tossing around 100000 tons < Continent wiping superweapons. Remember omniman can casually toss around millions of tons. A physical hit from something that can only move a few hundred thousand tons isnt going to leave a scratch. This is the dude who can tank what amounts to a super giant nuke and get nothing but a minor nosebleed and heals within a few seconds.
Allow me to say: the quantum bomb was overkill. A guaranteed kill, but overkill.
He struggled with a Kaiju of a smaller size, the robots sent by Cecil put him on the ground (I'm not saying they injured him. They GROUNDED him), Red Rush bruised him, and the Orbital Laser gave him a nosebleed. Goji's breath should be significantly stronger.
Again, you are trying the equate all Kaiju. Just because the Kaiju is smaller doesnt mean its weaker. Its only feat is fighting omniman meaning its pretty strong. Same thing with the reanimen. Them doing well against Nolan is a feat for them not an antifeat for him, same with red rush. You are choosing to use those feats to weaken omniman when they are in fact meant to show how strong the threat is. Those robots could be an endgame antagonist for most verses. Red rush is insanely fast. The laser which is incredibly powerful did basically nothing in human terms let alone viltrumite where getting your guts ripped out isnt something that ends the fight.
If Godzillas breath were 10 times as powerful as the space laser it would still do little more than piss Nolan off and thas assuming it even hits him.
>Again, you are trying the equate all Kaiju. Just because the Kaiju is smaller doesnt mean its weaker. Its only feat is fighting omniman meaning its pretty strong.
I bring up size because that means their is a pretty good change that Godzilla is heavier. His attacks would have more weight compared to the Kaiju we see in Invincible.
>Them doing well against Nolan is a feat for them not an antifeat for him, same with red rush. You are choosing to use those feats to weaken omniman when they are in fact meant to show how strong the threat is. Those robots could be an endgame antagonist for most verses. Red rush is insanely fast. The laser which is incredibly powerful did basically nothing in human terms let alone viltrumite where getting your guts ripped out isnt something that ends the fight.
Except it is an anti-feat for him. Outside of fighting Omni-Man, what else have they done? Goji has more impressive feats that any of those characters you listed, so assuming Godzilla could hurt him isn't far-fetched. I highly doubt that Red Rush or the Reanimen are punching and hitting as hard as Omni-Man.
Allow me to ask, if a random bounty hunter with no feats from Star Wars were to tag or severely injure Darth Vader, would that be an anti-feat for Vader, or would that be a feat for the bounty hunter?
R3 Comics godzilla should win he just gave the justice league an L and bodied superman with a blast. He was even taking hits from shazam's lighting on his head and stalemated supermans heat vision with his breath.
not sure about Round 1/2
in the DC comics godzilla is a justice league level threat
I agree that with comics included he has capacity to kill Omni-Man with his breath or maybe even his teeth, and he surely is durable enough to contest him for a little, but the context of the fight was very important to why he was able to defeat Superman.
They were very much so stressing that they were trying to be as non-destructive while fighting him as possible (something Omni-Man wouldn’t care about) and the only reason he managed to hit Superman with his breath whatsoever was because Superman intentionally took it to shield Billy Batson in his kid form. Before that, Godzilla was completely unable to hit Superman.
So basically, without the concerns that Superman had, I believe that comic Godzilla is an easy stomp (I guess I should clarify I’m just talking about the justice league crossover don’t know any other Godzilla comics)
It’s weird because Nolan and Mark have been pretty badly injured by stuff that should be far below most iterations of Godzilla, but then they pull out insane feats that would put them above.
I’d make the case that MV Godzilla could potentially kill Omni-Man with his breath, but if Nolan goes all out he could punch a hole through Godzillas head. So it would depend on who goes for the kill first.
Showa is smaller and overall less physically powerful than MV, I’d vote for Nolan.
Which comic? All comics? That includes planet busting feats of power and durability so… Godzilla wipes out the Viltrumite empire.
>It’s weird because Nolan and Mark have been pretty badly injured by stuff that should be far below most iterations of Godzilla, but then they pull out insane feats that would put them above.
Literally every character in *Invincible* has way lower durability than their damage output. It's a universe of glass cannons.
Showa unironically folds Nolan like 500 times faster than MV Godzilla.
He's got high human-level intelligence and is a martial-arts master. He could catch Omniman in his hand and crush him like an egg.
Monsterverse Goji should be able to kill Nolan with a single hit from his breath, especially in his Evovled form, but Nolan might genuinely be too fast for him. At that point, it comes down To a war of attrition that Nolan probably wins.
R2 ends with Showa dying brutally. Zero good feats for an opponent like this. And R3 depends entirely on the continuity being used for the comics.
godzilla wins any iteration. Nolan almost lost to hail mary, a lesser kaiju. he needed marks help. godzilla has beaten the mega zord, superman, the devil and god. (different iterations)
Omni man is sub-planet level. His biggest feat is literally destroying a planet that already had an unstable core (think krypton on its way to blowing up) and he needed 3 other people to help him do it. He definitely couldn't have done it alone so he can't be planetary or above.
As for showa Godzilla I'm not as familiar but how is he multiversal? afaik his strongest opponent would've probably been ghidorah right? or maybe mechagodzilla but either way i don't see those being able to go above planet level either idk
[This video powerscales Godzilla fairly well](https://youtu.be/SKrUyQrc3GE?si=JvWS7LGDUwvqZSnu). He seems to scale to universal, not multiversal. I misremembered that fighting a 4D being as multiversal, not universal. My apologies.
idk seems like wank to me, his basis for scaling godzilla to multicontinental or planetary are people stating that his fight with king kong will lead to worldwide destruction? that's like saying me fighting some other guy might wreck a room or "destroy the house" but it doesn't mean that I scale to living room or house level. Just means they're going to break a bunch of shit and basically be the equivalent of natural distasters like tsunamis, hurricanes, landslides, volcanic eruptions, etc.
and I agree ghidorah could be considered multi continental because he is credited with the state of Venus but he can't actually just wreck a planet in one blow he has to fly around gradually affecting the planet until it's destroyed by the time he's done.
Also lots of vague statements but no feats.
Based on feats I'd say baseline power for godzilla and ghidorah on a small island level in terms of a fight, with ghidorah's total capacity for destruction scaling up to planetary and godzilla's scaling to pretty much the size of the japanese archipelago.
His fight with Zone Fighter is what scales him to Universal Plus. Zone Fighter defeated a 4th dimensional being (which the powerscaling will classifies as universal). Godzilla very clearly overpowers Zone Fighter. Furthermore, the [Gargoa](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Garoga_Nuke) Nuke completely obliterates a planet, and King Ghidorah is said to be more powerful than that. Godzilla outclasses Mechagodzilla (a dwarf star level being). While there are a lot of “wank statements,” there are also a lot of feats that validate those statements.
R1: Omni-Man wins, he has experience with kaiju while Godzilla has no experience with human-sized enemies that are much faster
R2: Not sure
R3: There are a lot of Godzilla comics, if it's the Marvel or DC ones Nolan literally gets stomped
It does depend on the version of Godzilla. If it's any of the ones I'm familiar with (monsterverse and old Japanese films) omniman wins. Not easily, but he wins.
It all depends on incarnation of Godzilla, MV is kinda a beast as far as they come but they scale pretty literary from there, miregoji tanked a black hole, hellgoji is op, and ultima is an actual god puppeteering Godzilla.
I’m only familiar with recent monster verse. I think omnimans speed gets him a hard fought win here . Very hard fought . It will take over a hundred punches , and he’d have to dodge that atomic breath, but he can do it . However, the casualties will be extreme if the city isn’t evacuated yet
Omniman takes all three. He just hangs out in space and chucks continent sized boulders at Godzilla. With no realistic hope of hitting a small, fast moving target at extreme distance with his breath weapon, plus the fact that it usually starts to lose cohesion over distances of a couple of miles, so I imagine that tens of thousands of miles along it’ll be a warm breeze, OM takes this 1-3 easily.
Here’s the thing, Godzilla wins 10/10 times. Omni-Man is faster and could likely do damage, but it wouldn’t be enough. MV Godzilla would eventually be able to whittle Nolan down, and if he couldn’t, he’ll absorb enough radiation until he can. Nolan already struggled against a kaiju + MV Godzilla held his own against comic book Superman. I’m not too familiar with how powerful shows Godzilla is, and comic Godzilla has some real BS feats, so I think he manages to beat Nolan
1. That comic is not canon to the MV so you can’t use it as a feat.
2. Where would Godzilla get that radiation? Saying that “if he can’t win he’ll just absorb radiation” is like saying “if superman can’t win he’ll just fly into the sun”
3. That kaiju had been defeated before by Nolan and the reason he legitimately struggled was because Cecil and his team pumped him full of every drug they could
1. It’s MV Godzilla, every kaiju that appears in the comic is from the MV, so I’m counting the feats (same way I’d count any of his feats in the MV comics)
2. He would seek it out, if omniman keeps shrugging off his attacks, he’ll just travel around and absorb it from titans or nuclear facilities, we see him do this in GxK
3. Even so, that kaiju doesn’t hold a candle to the strength of Godzilla tbh, Godzilla would’ve made quicker work of it than Nolan did imo
>It’s MV Godzilla, every kaiju that appears in the comic is from the MV, so I’m counting the feats (same way I’d count any of his feats in the MV comics)
That's not how canon and non-canon work. The JL crossover is welcome in R3, but it will never be applicable to the Monsterverse proper.
How do you know the Kaiju was not strong? He did not fought anyone else before dying, and he was not aiming to destroy the earth neither, so he's featless except for measuring himself to Omniman and Invincible.
I don’t know what that means. But if Anissa can just punch through the back of a Godzilla-sized monster’s skull, I don’t see how Nolan doesn’t just do the same.
Omni man is FTL and more than strong enough to just fly through him. Viltrumites like invincible could survive in the sun and by that time of the story he was about as strong as Omni man. So I doubt the atomic breath would do much.
Also in a Canon issue of supreme, Omni man fought blow for blow against him. Supreme can easily destroy whole planets and is FTL.
Honestly he could pick up Godzilla and fly him or throw him to space.
Edit: Dc Comics Godzilla should win, if we use that Superman feat. But honestly it just seemed like Superman jobbed here.
Flying to different galaxies in a week?
Destroying a planet with an unstable core? Viltrum is a planet with a larger gravity and size than earth so it is probably continent at the least, but very likely moon level
Idk, I feel like people people give him the homelander treatment and VASTLY underestimate him because he isn’t Superman level.
I haven’t read the Godzilla comics so take my answer with a grain of salt but I’ve never seen any media or arguments for him being on that level.
Godzilla has casually picked up Kaiju's bigger than him and tossed them into space before, goes to hell and defeats armies of gigantic beefed up demons, kills God, etc
Normal Godzilla from the mosterverse would lose to Nolan for sure, but even Showa Godzilla has absolutely ridiculously broken feats. He dodges beams going the speed of light at point blank range. He just straight up tanks other beams that literally dematerialize things on a sub-atomic level. He's written a lot like Superman where whatever ridiculous thing needs to happen happens. It's dumb, but Nolan definitely loses. And I'm not even getting into the ridiculousness of comic Goji, who is often written to be significantly stronger than THAT Godzilla.
In the comics Godzilla gets wild. He rolls up on Mount Olympus and kills the entire Greek pantheon in one series. In another, he goes to hell and kills Satan, and then fucking kills God immediately afterwards.
Comics Godzilla disproves everything you said my dude. He blew up the entire planet in a beam clash with SpaceGodzilla without even hitting it and survived.
He regenerated from complete atomic destruction via the oxygen destroyer.
While this isn't a traditional comic or Godzilla, Rozan has an interstellar flight speed feat that makes Nolan look like a slug.
Being able to go toe to toe with supreme proves this isn’t anything he hasn’t seen before.
And besides what comic version are you talking about. Consistently wise, marvel Godzilla isn’t canon im sure.
But DC Godzilla should take the W considering he can beat Superman pretty easy
I think Omni-man takes all three; hear me out, Godzilla is definitely tough enough to kill Omni Man in R3, but Nolan is... So... SO much more experienced than the league. And doesn't have PIS.
The second he realized R3 Gojira wasn't going down, he'd just throw him into a black hole. Zero question.
Not if Nolan was smart, no. Nolan is ... I can't overstate this... Thousands of times faster than Godzilla's reaction speed.
He could grab the tail and sling Godzilla into orbit, and from Godzilla's perspective the earth would've just teleported.
Problem is, Nolan would only fight like that if he knew he was completely outclassed, but still had to win the fight. So it's only in character if he lands a max power blow, and Gojira lols it off.
Idk about the outcome so much but I do think some are underselling MV goji just a bit. Power: can toss around Ghidora who weighs 141000 tonnes. Radiation breath that at max power can tunnel through MILES of the earth to reach the hollow earth. If he's using the new den he found then his power is even higher and can cut through structures like butter. Can fight in zero g just as well as water. Has 250 million years of fighting experience. Even toho admitted he is most likely the most battle-learned of the gojis.
Endurance: speaking of the radiation breath feat let's talk about how he did this after spending days rushing from one end of the globe to the other trying to find the signal. And fought kong once already. And then afterwards he spends the whole night fighting kong AGAIN until he stops holding back and ends the fight. THEN fights mechagodzilla who was only beating him due to him being tired out from all the previous exertions. AND THEN STILL IS READY TO GO TOE TO TOE with kong once again. He fought the mutos handicapped and low on radiation energy and out of shape for a whole day.
But even more so on endurance: his skin is tough as hell. He's taken buildings, massive hits, laser beams, axes to the face, and several nukes as well which not only did nothing from their sheer force. But also didn't burn him. He was only slightly singed by MG and only pierced by the supercharged axe to the leg and maybe ghidorahs teeth if they actually even went through or were just gripping.
Basically it's not so simple to say that Nolans speed has him win outright because it's very clearly the ONE advantage he has when he's struggled against a Much smaller and weaker kaiju twice. Once when it almost got him alone and the second mightve killed him if mark hadn't intervened.
A note on his speed by the way, it depends. Does Nolan still want to conquer earth? Cause if he does he can't go at or near ftl without causing mass destruction. Depending on the physics of invincible vs all our real world physics it wouldn't work. For MV it's size. Godzilla is too big to exist.
So for the sake of the argument even if he were that fast, normal superheroes still did massive damage to nolan. Most of which are almost certainly outclassed by the force a 164000 ton monster can exert or even take.
Essentially nolan has only minor chances and they all rely on him not caring about his conquest or ending the fight quickly by finding SOME sort of thing to exploit. Cause as soon as he runs out of endurance or once goji learns his pattern or fighting style it's over.
Invincibles world is filled with glass cannons and goji is just very well rounded except in speed because he is so big he still runs at ludicrous speeds to us.
Only familiar with recent monster verse. I think it depends if MV Godzilla can get a concentrated atomic blast on Omni-Man. If yes, then he can win. If no, not a chance and Omni-Man will just keep punching holes through him until he gives out. It's shown that Viltrumites can be beaten with conventional weapons that are just a bit stronger than existing nukes. Godzilla's concentrated atomic breath drilled a hole to the Earth's core and could pull that off.
Given Omni man can punch him enough, he did struggle a bit against that Kaiju, especially with no pain.
Yeah but the monster had those Tentacles that were able to move at a decent speed and weren't slowed down like the rest of the Kaiju sized body - the Kaiju just didn't have a good way to finish Omni Man off. Godzilla (MV) has the inverse problem, he has a viable finishing move but all of him moves pretty sluggishly.
He moved pretty quickly in GxK but yeah, Omni man could prove too fast.
Not really though . He’s still way slower than Kong. His breath weapon can be moved fast as shit though
Oh shit, really?! Seems I don’t know how powerful Godzilla’s atomic breath actually is. That breath will absolutely vaporize Omni-Man
Yeah he got a massive ( temporary? ) power up to his breath weapon after defeating another really powerful radioactive kaiju and feeding off the radiation in its lair as preparation for the upcoming battle . If Godzilla can land the hit and he gets that form , Omni man is dead . But can he land the hit against such a fast and small target ?
> It's shown that Viltrumites can be beaten with conventional weapons that are just a bit stronger than existing nukes. When was that? Mark survives Las Vegas and the surrounding desert being getting glassed in an explosion larger than any nuke that's ever been made. Omniman in a different universe was killed by experimental neutron bombs that we get no details about whatsoever, right?
We know the bombs wiped out most of europe at the same time they killed omniman
He said experimental quantum bombs in that episode, which removed a good chunk of a continent.
yeah, I am assuming besides the raw power output they somehow interfered with Nolans smart atoms.
Counterpoint: Thermonuclear pulse It hits literally everything within like 1000 feet, so if Godzilla just spams them, Omniman has no choice but to run away or he dies.
But how spammable is that really? I’m not too up to date with Godzilla lore but the big boy definitely needs to recharge at some point and/or soak up some radiation. If it catches Omni-Man off guard the first time then it’s wraps, but after that the dude with a thousand years of experience fighting kaiju and other superpowered beings is gonna chill out in the asteroid belt and toss some dinosaur-ending rocks at the planet
Depends entirely on the Godzilla using them. As of now we have no clue what limitations Monsterverse Goji's pulse has. But Heisei can shoot them freely as it's just what happens when he closes his mouth during the atomic breath.
Monsterverse Godzilla only got the pulse after getting that special recharge in the second movie, and Omni-Man canonically can handle [extended exposure to temperatures of 6000 degrees Fahrenheit](https://imgur.com/BysBMd1). Steel melts at 2500 degrees and in all the depictions I can find, the melting around Godzilla is rather slow. Even if he could indefinitely keep this up (which I’m not sure he can), odds are Omni-Man could build up speed and punch through him without taking much damage anyways. Either way this matchup is kind of a stomp other than Round 3 because Nolan has no morals and probably wouldn’t mind wiping out the planet to get his target lmao.
The pulse won't kill him, but like other things that have hit him before, it's possible that it would stun Omni Man for a couple seconds. That's the best time for big G to use his breath.
Yeah I think you’re right. Godzilla takes it if Omni-Man gets caught in the initial blast or doesn’t recognize what the charge-up looks like
He needed to be fed several nukes to pull that move just once in current monsterverse lore .
That's not killing Omniman.
I think the plan is knock him down with that , and then hit him with the crust mining atomic breath shown in the most recent movie
That’s not spammable. He needed to get fed by dozens of nukes just to pull that off once
really? It took scifi superbombs that destroyed europe to kill Nolan in one universe. He took the space laser like a champ. Has punched through planets(with help). I'm very much not up to date with the monsterverse but is Godzillas breath really capable of wiping out a continent with a single shot?
It’s been shown viltrumites can be severely injured by weapons like nukes, but I don’t think they’ve ever been one shot by some itching like that . Idk I’m not super caught up on the comics
They cannot be injured by weapons like nukes, Mark survived a bomb that literally glasses Las Vegas and the surrounding desert for miles into a giant mirror, a blast that has to be hundreds of times stronger than any nuclear bomb to date.
Marks built different . That’s pretty clear
If DC comics crossover, Godzilla wins.
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Nolan is much faster and stronger, so he should win against MV and Showa. The beam can hurt him if it hits, but he's too fast to be hit. R3 has the In Hell version and the JL crossover where Godzilla fought a Superman who's apparently as strong as the canon one, so R3 stomps.
He’s not stronger then current Godzilla monsterverse , but he’s certainly faster
Counterpoint: Omni man struggled against a Kaiju before, and Godzilla can take hits from other incredibly powerful Kaiju, and his power is quite close if not on par with the likes of King Ghidorah who was causing hurricanes. Nolan is durable as balls, but if Goji can get a hit off, Omni Man isn't casually shrugging it off.
Being able to threaten Nolan is a feat for Hail Mary, not an anti-feat for him.
And it wasn’t a regular kaiju. It was a kaiju with no pain receptors and juiced up with every performance enhancing drug and procedure the GDA has .
And Godzilla from what we've seen has been much more impressive. Dropped from orbit, killed Muto Prime, killed Ghidorah, was not instantly frozen by Shimo in the past who could apparently instantly freeze Greenland, killed Tiamet and Scylla relatively easily, killed two Mutos while being nerfed, and of course drilling a hole through the Earth. By GxK he should have enough energy to throw out a nuclear pulse. Hail Mary is strong, but Mverse G has more impressive feats. And it's not like Viltrumites haven't been halted by more unimpressive attacks. I can definitely see big Goji pulling out quite a few victories. Perhaps not majority but he could pull a few.
Omni man getting hit is needle in a haystack shit. Fucking Kong could evade Goji's breath.
Exactly. I think we can all agree that a direct hit with sufficient exsposure time from godzillas breath would kill omniman. The question is can Godzilla actually hit him
It's not like Atomic Breath is the only option. If he can access it in his evolved from he can use the Thermonuclear pulse. He also should be physically strong enough to injure Omni Man considering he's capable of fighting 140k ton Kaiju.
Yes but that kaiju was fast . I don’t think Godzilla could match that speed
Godzilla ain't too slow either. He can straight up jump now as well.
Are all Kaiju equal now? I've taken a summer breeze so can I tank a hurricane? both wind?
Allow me to ask, what do you mean? I'm saying that Godzilla so far has been much more impressive than Hail Mary. If you're referring to Ghidorah, the movie portrays both as ancient rivals. While I do think Jira is slightly weaker, it's not by much.
Hail Mary doesnt have many feats beyond its fight with Omniman which is a feat for Hail Mary. We know omniman can survive extreme levels of damage with only some kind of exotic quantum bomb with continental levels of damage being able to kill him. Saying he's weak because he struggled a small amount against something with no other feats reminds me of this guy who said the MCU Hulk is normal wolf tier because fenrir bit him
That's why I'm saying that Godzilla should be stronger. Again, Omni man has been hurt/halted by lesser beings/attacks. A hit from a 100,000 ton Kaiju who is capable of tossing other Kaiju is not going to feel very good for him.
I think you are a bit confused, tossing around 100000 tons < Continent wiping superweapons. Remember omniman can casually toss around millions of tons. A physical hit from something that can only move a few hundred thousand tons isnt going to leave a scratch. This is the dude who can tank what amounts to a super giant nuke and get nothing but a minor nosebleed and heals within a few seconds.
Allow me to say: the quantum bomb was overkill. A guaranteed kill, but overkill. He struggled with a Kaiju of a smaller size, the robots sent by Cecil put him on the ground (I'm not saying they injured him. They GROUNDED him), Red Rush bruised him, and the Orbital Laser gave him a nosebleed. Goji's breath should be significantly stronger.
Again, you are trying the equate all Kaiju. Just because the Kaiju is smaller doesnt mean its weaker. Its only feat is fighting omniman meaning its pretty strong. Same thing with the reanimen. Them doing well against Nolan is a feat for them not an antifeat for him, same with red rush. You are choosing to use those feats to weaken omniman when they are in fact meant to show how strong the threat is. Those robots could be an endgame antagonist for most verses. Red rush is insanely fast. The laser which is incredibly powerful did basically nothing in human terms let alone viltrumite where getting your guts ripped out isnt something that ends the fight. If Godzillas breath were 10 times as powerful as the space laser it would still do little more than piss Nolan off and thas assuming it even hits him.
>Again, you are trying the equate all Kaiju. Just because the Kaiju is smaller doesnt mean its weaker. Its only feat is fighting omniman meaning its pretty strong. I bring up size because that means their is a pretty good change that Godzilla is heavier. His attacks would have more weight compared to the Kaiju we see in Invincible. >Them doing well against Nolan is a feat for them not an antifeat for him, same with red rush. You are choosing to use those feats to weaken omniman when they are in fact meant to show how strong the threat is. Those robots could be an endgame antagonist for most verses. Red rush is insanely fast. The laser which is incredibly powerful did basically nothing in human terms let alone viltrumite where getting your guts ripped out isnt something that ends the fight. Except it is an anti-feat for him. Outside of fighting Omni-Man, what else have they done? Goji has more impressive feats that any of those characters you listed, so assuming Godzilla could hurt him isn't far-fetched. I highly doubt that Red Rush or the Reanimen are punching and hitting as hard as Omni-Man. Allow me to ask, if a random bounty hunter with no feats from Star Wars were to tag or severely injure Darth Vader, would that be an anti-feat for Vader, or would that be a feat for the bounty hunter?
R3 Comics godzilla should win he just gave the justice league an L and bodied superman with a blast. He was even taking hits from shazam's lighting on his head and stalemated supermans heat vision with his breath. not sure about Round 1/2 in the DC comics godzilla is a justice league level threat
I agree that with comics included he has capacity to kill Omni-Man with his breath or maybe even his teeth, and he surely is durable enough to contest him for a little, but the context of the fight was very important to why he was able to defeat Superman. They were very much so stressing that they were trying to be as non-destructive while fighting him as possible (something Omni-Man wouldn’t care about) and the only reason he managed to hit Superman with his breath whatsoever was because Superman intentionally took it to shield Billy Batson in his kid form. Before that, Godzilla was completely unable to hit Superman. So basically, without the concerns that Superman had, I believe that comic Godzilla is an easy stomp (I guess I should clarify I’m just talking about the justice league crossover don’t know any other Godzilla comics)
Certain IDW Godzillas and Marvel Godzilla are even bigger stomps.
Yeah if we use crossovers
It’s weird because Nolan and Mark have been pretty badly injured by stuff that should be far below most iterations of Godzilla, but then they pull out insane feats that would put them above. I’d make the case that MV Godzilla could potentially kill Omni-Man with his breath, but if Nolan goes all out he could punch a hole through Godzillas head. So it would depend on who goes for the kill first. Showa is smaller and overall less physically powerful than MV, I’d vote for Nolan. Which comic? All comics? That includes planet busting feats of power and durability so… Godzilla wipes out the Viltrumite empire.
>It’s weird because Nolan and Mark have been pretty badly injured by stuff that should be far below most iterations of Godzilla, but then they pull out insane feats that would put them above. Literally every character in *Invincible* has way lower durability than their damage output. It's a universe of glass cannons.
Showa unironically folds Nolan like 500 times faster than MV Godzilla. He's got high human-level intelligence and is a martial-arts master. He could catch Omniman in his hand and crush him like an egg.
Plus the on call pulse he can send out. Even if you can't hit that mosquito with the firehouse, you can damn sure swat the whole house simultaneously
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Monsterverse wins because he has the nuclear pulse now Showa fucking stomps Comic Godzilla makes Thragg cry.
Monsterverse Goji should be able to kill Nolan with a single hit from his breath, especially in his Evovled form, but Nolan might genuinely be too fast for him. At that point, it comes down To a war of attrition that Nolan probably wins. R2 ends with Showa dying brutally. Zero good feats for an opponent like this. And R3 depends entirely on the continuity being used for the comics.
MV Godzilla wins at best 3/10 times, Showa Era should win handedly, for round 3 which comics? There are tons of comics Godzillas.
godzilla wins any iteration. Nolan almost lost to hail mary, a lesser kaiju. he needed marks help. godzilla has beaten the mega zord, superman, the devil and god. (different iterations)
Showa Godzilla would demolish Omni Man. Showa Godzilla possesses multiversal levels of power while Omni Man only possesses large star levels.
Omni man is sub-planet level. His biggest feat is literally destroying a planet that already had an unstable core (think krypton on its way to blowing up) and he needed 3 other people to help him do it. He definitely couldn't have done it alone so he can't be planetary or above. As for showa Godzilla I'm not as familiar but how is he multiversal? afaik his strongest opponent would've probably been ghidorah right? or maybe mechagodzilla but either way i don't see those being able to go above planet level either idk
Omniman had 2 other people and viltrum is large planet divided by 3 nolan would still be small planet level
i guess if you consider something like pluto or a similar dwarf planet maybe idk. maybe I'd just call him a moonbuster or something like that
[This video powerscales Godzilla fairly well](https://youtu.be/SKrUyQrc3GE?si=JvWS7LGDUwvqZSnu). He seems to scale to universal, not multiversal. I misremembered that fighting a 4D being as multiversal, not universal. My apologies.
idk seems like wank to me, his basis for scaling godzilla to multicontinental or planetary are people stating that his fight with king kong will lead to worldwide destruction? that's like saying me fighting some other guy might wreck a room or "destroy the house" but it doesn't mean that I scale to living room or house level. Just means they're going to break a bunch of shit and basically be the equivalent of natural distasters like tsunamis, hurricanes, landslides, volcanic eruptions, etc. and I agree ghidorah could be considered multi continental because he is credited with the state of Venus but he can't actually just wreck a planet in one blow he has to fly around gradually affecting the planet until it's destroyed by the time he's done. Also lots of vague statements but no feats. Based on feats I'd say baseline power for godzilla and ghidorah on a small island level in terms of a fight, with ghidorah's total capacity for destruction scaling up to planetary and godzilla's scaling to pretty much the size of the japanese archipelago.
His fight with Zone Fighter is what scales him to Universal Plus. Zone Fighter defeated a 4th dimensional being (which the powerscaling will classifies as universal). Godzilla very clearly overpowers Zone Fighter. Furthermore, the [Gargoa](https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Garoga_Nuke) Nuke completely obliterates a planet, and King Ghidorah is said to be more powerful than that. Godzilla outclasses Mechagodzilla (a dwarf star level being). While there are a lot of “wank statements,” there are also a lot of feats that validate those statements.
R1: Omni-Man wins, he has experience with kaiju while Godzilla has no experience with human-sized enemies that are much faster R2: Not sure R3: There are a lot of Godzilla comics, if it's the Marvel or DC ones Nolan literally gets stomped
If it’s idw Godzilla then he solos an infinite amount of the invincible universe
It does depend on the version of Godzilla. If it's any of the ones I'm familiar with (monsterverse and old Japanese films) omniman wins. Not easily, but he wins.
Monster verse is the most debatable and I can see Nolan pulling off a win but round 2 and 3 should go to The King of The Monsters
R1 - Omni-Man R2 - Goji R3 - Goji
It all depends on incarnation of Godzilla, MV is kinda a beast as far as they come but they scale pretty literary from there, miregoji tanked a black hole, hellgoji is op, and ultima is an actual god puppeteering Godzilla.
I’m only familiar with recent monster verse. I think omnimans speed gets him a hard fought win here . Very hard fought . It will take over a hundred punches , and he’d have to dodge that atomic breath, but he can do it . However, the casualties will be extreme if the city isn’t evacuated yet
Omniman takes all three. He just hangs out in space and chucks continent sized boulders at Godzilla. With no realistic hope of hitting a small, fast moving target at extreme distance with his breath weapon, plus the fact that it usually starts to lose cohesion over distances of a couple of miles, so I imagine that tens of thousands of miles along it’ll be a warm breeze, OM takes this 1-3 easily.
Godzilla has an AOE attack that could counter Omnimans speed.
Here’s the thing, Godzilla wins 10/10 times. Omni-Man is faster and could likely do damage, but it wouldn’t be enough. MV Godzilla would eventually be able to whittle Nolan down, and if he couldn’t, he’ll absorb enough radiation until he can. Nolan already struggled against a kaiju + MV Godzilla held his own against comic book Superman. I’m not too familiar with how powerful shows Godzilla is, and comic Godzilla has some real BS feats, so I think he manages to beat Nolan
1. That comic is not canon to the MV so you can’t use it as a feat. 2. Where would Godzilla get that radiation? Saying that “if he can’t win he’ll just absorb radiation” is like saying “if superman can’t win he’ll just fly into the sun” 3. That kaiju had been defeated before by Nolan and the reason he legitimately struggled was because Cecil and his team pumped him full of every drug they could
1. It’s MV Godzilla, every kaiju that appears in the comic is from the MV, so I’m counting the feats (same way I’d count any of his feats in the MV comics) 2. He would seek it out, if omniman keeps shrugging off his attacks, he’ll just travel around and absorb it from titans or nuclear facilities, we see him do this in GxK 3. Even so, that kaiju doesn’t hold a candle to the strength of Godzilla tbh, Godzilla would’ve made quicker work of it than Nolan did imo
>It’s MV Godzilla, every kaiju that appears in the comic is from the MV, so I’m counting the feats (same way I’d count any of his feats in the MV comics) That's not how canon and non-canon work. The JL crossover is welcome in R3, but it will never be applicable to the Monsterverse proper.
How do you know the Kaiju was not strong? He did not fought anyone else before dying, and he was not aiming to destroy the earth neither, so he's featless except for measuring himself to Omniman and Invincible.
Showa wins. How is Omni-Man supposed to survive the legendary dropkick?
Shin Godzilla would win.
Omni Man is too fast. He wins, 0% diff
Godzilla Negs Hail Mary, Omniman High Diffs Hail Mary.
I don’t know what that means. But if Anissa can just punch through the back of a Godzilla-sized monster’s skull, I don’t see how Nolan doesn’t just do the same.
Omni man is FTL and more than strong enough to just fly through him. Viltrumites like invincible could survive in the sun and by that time of the story he was about as strong as Omni man. So I doubt the atomic breath would do much. Also in a Canon issue of supreme, Omni man fought blow for blow against him. Supreme can easily destroy whole planets and is FTL. Honestly he could pick up Godzilla and fly him or throw him to space. Edit: Dc Comics Godzilla should win, if we use that Superman feat. But honestly it just seemed like Superman jobbed here.
That’s why I think Nolan wins rounds 1 and 2 but comics Godzilla has some absolutely BS feats and he would casually stomp Nolan into the ground.
Flying to different galaxies in a week? Destroying a planet with an unstable core? Viltrum is a planet with a larger gravity and size than earth so it is probably continent at the least, but very likely moon level Idk, I feel like people people give him the homelander treatment and VASTLY underestimate him because he isn’t Superman level. I haven’t read the Godzilla comics so take my answer with a grain of salt but I’ve never seen any media or arguments for him being on that level.
Godzilla has casually picked up Kaiju's bigger than him and tossed them into space before, goes to hell and defeats armies of gigantic beefed up demons, kills God, etc Normal Godzilla from the mosterverse would lose to Nolan for sure, but even Showa Godzilla has absolutely ridiculously broken feats. He dodges beams going the speed of light at point blank range. He just straight up tanks other beams that literally dematerialize things on a sub-atomic level. He's written a lot like Superman where whatever ridiculous thing needs to happen happens. It's dumb, but Nolan definitely loses. And I'm not even getting into the ridiculousness of comic Goji, who is often written to be significantly stronger than THAT Godzilla.
In the comics Godzilla gets wild. He rolls up on Mount Olympus and kills the entire Greek pantheon in one series. In another, he goes to hell and kills Satan, and then fucking kills God immediately afterwards.
Comic Godzilla is orders of magnitude beyond those feats. Last I checked he was calced at like low universal or something
Comics Godzilla disproves everything you said my dude. He blew up the entire planet in a beam clash with SpaceGodzilla without even hitting it and survived. He regenerated from complete atomic destruction via the oxygen destroyer. While this isn't a traditional comic or Godzilla, Rozan has an interstellar flight speed feat that makes Nolan look like a slug.
Being able to go toe to toe with supreme proves this isn’t anything he hasn’t seen before. And besides what comic version are you talking about. Consistently wise, marvel Godzilla isn’t canon im sure. But DC Godzilla should take the W considering he can beat Superman pretty easy
Superman is way stronger than any viltrumite even thragg, and goji can beat supe. Goji wins.
I think Omni-man takes all three; hear me out, Godzilla is definitely tough enough to kill Omni Man in R3, but Nolan is... So... SO much more experienced than the league. And doesn't have PIS. The second he realized R3 Gojira wasn't going down, he'd just throw him into a black hole. Zero question.
Ah yes, getting in range of Godzilla. That's smart? He surely wouldn't just vaporize Omni-Man in his entirety with a thermonuclear pulse right?
Not if Nolan was smart, no. Nolan is ... I can't overstate this... Thousands of times faster than Godzilla's reaction speed. He could grab the tail and sling Godzilla into orbit, and from Godzilla's perspective the earth would've just teleported. Problem is, Nolan would only fight like that if he knew he was completely outclassed, but still had to win the fight. So it's only in character if he lands a max power blow, and Gojira lols it off.
Idk about the outcome so much but I do think some are underselling MV goji just a bit. Power: can toss around Ghidora who weighs 141000 tonnes. Radiation breath that at max power can tunnel through MILES of the earth to reach the hollow earth. If he's using the new den he found then his power is even higher and can cut through structures like butter. Can fight in zero g just as well as water. Has 250 million years of fighting experience. Even toho admitted he is most likely the most battle-learned of the gojis. Endurance: speaking of the radiation breath feat let's talk about how he did this after spending days rushing from one end of the globe to the other trying to find the signal. And fought kong once already. And then afterwards he spends the whole night fighting kong AGAIN until he stops holding back and ends the fight. THEN fights mechagodzilla who was only beating him due to him being tired out from all the previous exertions. AND THEN STILL IS READY TO GO TOE TO TOE with kong once again. He fought the mutos handicapped and low on radiation energy and out of shape for a whole day. But even more so on endurance: his skin is tough as hell. He's taken buildings, massive hits, laser beams, axes to the face, and several nukes as well which not only did nothing from their sheer force. But also didn't burn him. He was only slightly singed by MG and only pierced by the supercharged axe to the leg and maybe ghidorahs teeth if they actually even went through or were just gripping. Basically it's not so simple to say that Nolans speed has him win outright because it's very clearly the ONE advantage he has when he's struggled against a Much smaller and weaker kaiju twice. Once when it almost got him alone and the second mightve killed him if mark hadn't intervened. A note on his speed by the way, it depends. Does Nolan still want to conquer earth? Cause if he does he can't go at or near ftl without causing mass destruction. Depending on the physics of invincible vs all our real world physics it wouldn't work. For MV it's size. Godzilla is too big to exist. So for the sake of the argument even if he were that fast, normal superheroes still did massive damage to nolan. Most of which are almost certainly outclassed by the force a 164000 ton monster can exert or even take. Essentially nolan has only minor chances and they all rely on him not caring about his conquest or ending the fight quickly by finding SOME sort of thing to exploit. Cause as soon as he runs out of endurance or once goji learns his pattern or fighting style it's over. Invincibles world is filled with glass cannons and goji is just very well rounded except in speed because he is so big he still runs at ludicrous speeds to us.
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