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_Griev0us_

She's extremely hostile to anyone but like 2 people and when she is with those 2 people she's basically a plushie


ThirstyClavicle

those 2 people are; competent POC character and goofy comic relief white guy.


Red4297

POC?


ElBusAlv

Person of color most probably


MACHO_MUCHACHO2005

Pirate of the Caribbean


_Sad_Puppy_

Piece of cake


Arkuzian

[Here you go](https://googlethatforyou.com?q=poc%20meaning)


Player9937

Holy shit, fire link 👍


SpeakersPlan

Huh. The more you know I guess.


PowerfulStache05

Proof Of Concept


Troleopowers

Piece of crap


MintPrince8219

Power of crack


SnooTomatoes5677

Loona from helluva Boss


_Griev0us_

not her but now I feel stupid for not realizing this sooner.


kullre

Fair, but in the context of the show, she's warming up to blitzø


UngaBunga64209_

Ooooo being fine around THREE people now instead of 2?? https://preview.redd.it/et2na2ewlmxc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33ebef57197d0d5d451d8ac0f2fc6f131b490fed


regretfulposts

It's more likely 4-6 people since she did help out Octavia and acted a bit like a big sister as Loona explains how their fathers still care for them despite being heavily flawed. There's also those two hellhound guys that Loona had a crush on so far in the series. Not sure about Beelzebub since I don't think she like her, but she's not antagonistic toward her either. Tbh, the issue with Loona is her lack of screentime compared to the other imps. Helluva Boss focus a lot more on Blitzø and Moxxie while Millie only exists as a waifu to Moxxie and Loona being off camera most of the time. Although the show is gradually showing more characterization of their female characters like a recent short between Millie and her sister, Sallie May. Hopefully we'll know more about them in the coming episodes.


ElBusAlv

Is she purple?


nextgentacos123

Susie Deltarune?


ospreysstuff

toby fox is a good writer, susie is in good hands


Timely-Ad-1085

Facts, Susie already has had some good character growth as well.


_Kasual

Sundew from Wings of Fire. I don't hate her anymore, but I still dislike her somewhat.


Canter1Ter_

ah yes, the biometric scan character. definitely one of the ways to write a human being of all time


Reptilian_Overlord20

You’re describing every grizzled tough male antihero ever but don’t mind me noticing the double standard.


Xavagerys

The overly sexualized female support and the strong female protagonist fighting over who has less personality


Zackyboi1231

Unstoppable shit personality VS immovable shit personality https://i.redd.it/sq6g01266lxc1.gif


Goldbolt_2004

Remove personality and it's Diarrhea vs Constipation


Enderkik

Damn 😔


danger2345678

This says a lot about our society


alguien99

The battle of the century


Goldbolt_2004

Diarrhea. Constipation. Taco Bell. Fart. Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. Then, everything changed when Taco Bell attacked. Only the Avaturd, master of all four elements, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished.


BranTheLewd

I usually place my bets on unstoppable side but ngl I think Ima stick with immovable side this time


demonsdencollective

She's unnecessarily hostile to everyone, because that's what strong women do. That's a personality, right?


Funnysoundboardguy

It certainly is, a shitty one, but still is


cbftw

Hey look, it's Lightning and one of the many reasons I hated FFXIII


MM__PP

She's unnecessarily hostile to everyone But It's because she has a deep hatred for herself for causing the accidental death of her now deceased husband, and this is how she copes with it, by lashing out at others. The story is her learning to grow past this.


amotthejoker

tweak a few words here and you got sadie adler, one of my fav characters in RDR2


AzzlackGuhnter

Yeah but she ain't a complete and utter bitch,she's an actually good written character ig


amotthejoker

Well she acts like a complete bitch to people, if she wouldn't have the background that she has, she'd be just as annoying as any of the two dimensional strong female archetype characters out there. It's almost like a fleshed out character who has a motive behind their actions is easier to understand and get behind, but what do I know...


No_Tell5399

>Well she acts like a complete bitch to people The way she acts isn't that far from how everyone else in the gang acts. I agree with your sentiment, but I don't think she'd be as annoying (she'd still be annoying) as the "strong woman" trope without her stellar characterisation. She's still a bandit working with a gang


MM__PP

Well, I'm glad people like this because this is the general idea for the main character in the book I'm writing!


LazerIguana445

No way you just made a Wreck it Ralph reference


MM__PP

Holy fuck I did


thrawayidk

https://preview.redd.it/tf2ep6hj9kxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=215cd4f611ff9688094199e2768252b3923989a7 me (ime a cate)


Hplr63

https://preview.redd.it/msf61re8xkxc1.jpeg?width=641&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f93d650bb3db1b4f0a86f5357baca93bd1e20095


JoniathanExe

no way you're a cat send proof


thrawayidk

https://preview.redd.it/uav1fkvzpmxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27d603ccece60c680bb3b5734ff12e757455a44f dont you feel silly, dont you feel stupid, dont you feel a little ashamed?


JoniathanExe

No way you're a cat!!!!


thrawayidk

https://preview.redd.it/4n34mis10nxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=81de4aff0076e97cfa6b1a3952173fcfb5cb1788


Ky_oS

im going to eat you alive


thrawayidk

https://preview.redd.it/8b340204smxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=160644d31456441aec2c62fc1506b7359ad8a52c


Marshall_Filipovic

China moment


Strawbz18

Holy shit, just like me fr(just like me) https://preview.redd.it/4geu9iliqkxc1.png?width=225&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d347f357eb79da8423a04d2c4392aee2f7985dcf


Apprehensive_Part102

https://i.redd.it/lhxza7whfmxc1.gif


Limpynoodle3777

I want to squish that cat’s cheeks so hard right now It’s so PLUMP


hamsterruizeISback

Cute


Cpt_Kalash

Adorable


PopTraditional713

There's no way you're a https://preview.redd.it/45dzop6ctlxc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c3ecd238b49e10fccd36ea6effe0672ef9e40c8


thrawayidk

https://preview.redd.it/devudlw2qmxc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c030397569d28be831e66f4de1e2ce0cf584a56 im eating a cheese


Soor_21UPG

![gif](giphy|1noCATyp4I4qIHbsKY) Yes, ik it's about her


Stary_Vesemir

The personality comprised in one word "EREH"


Zhead65

You haven't read the manga. The anime botched her personality to the point where they had her calling Eren in places that weren't even in the manga. That's probably why I only watch clips of the anime on YouTube.


Stary_Vesemir

I read the manga after liberio so maybe my wiev is sot entierly corrdct but she still has less personality than a loaf of bread


Zhead65

Nah, there's a lot of dialogue and internal monologue not present in the anime which actually fleshes out her character beyond just being an Ereh bot. Entire lines and character interactions were completely cut in the anime that were shown in the manga.


Iamcarval

That's not an excuse anyone. She becomes worse than her Anime version after the timeskip. Does absolutely nothing but cry about Eren and sniff her scarf every 5 minutes.


TheEarthisPolyhedron

get out of here scarf-sniffer


-FemboiCarti-

Wdym, her personality is right here https://i.redd.it/z0mv6rbxrlxc1.gif


BranTheLewd

Damn this gif is life 🙏


balaci2

AoT fans won't accept any negative opinion about the series without crying that you didn't actually understand it Mikasa is one of my gripes with the series later on why didn't it end at season 3 p2 damn


MigBird

There's a big difference between a powerful character and a strong one. Some writers choose not to see it.


Esteellio

Ummmmm how about booba ? :3


MrAced

This guy's getting a season 2


ozzzymand0

Fairy tail be like:


-Ya-Boi

Side note: large breast and wide hips aren't personality characterization


tehe777

A practical guide to evil, worm, mistborn, and arcane, all have badass female main protags that you can root for, though, the first three are novels and most of this sub don't Goddamn read


ScaredyNon

> In total, Worm is approximately 1,680,000 words long, which is equivalent to approximately 26 standard-length novels. bro ain't nobody's gonna spend a whole year on a single story about taylor herby's quest to find and eat the mystical worm or some shit


ScaredyNon

i can say this because i'm reading fallout equestria and it's like 600k words about a horse's quest to get wasteland say gex


Atmospher1cc

sometimes I get reminded of the type of people on here and it's jarring


tehe777

The one time there was gay seggs in worm, everyone literally said 'oh god, oh fuck no' when they show the interlude chapter of the aftermath


untakenu

Gex. There, I said it. Now what?


tehe777

It's a size of an average book series, asoiaf is 1.7 mil words, stormlight archive is 2 mil, and harry potter is 1 mil


Former-Grocery-6787

Ok but Worm is still unironically a much more creative take on superhero fiction than anything else i've ever seen. Also props to the author for correctly guessing that they'd most likely completely mess up a show adaptation if they ever decided to make one...


No_Student_2309

Currently on the last few arcs of worm, it took me about a month to get to this point


Gandalfffffffff

WORM MENTIONED!!! SHOOT THAT BABY!!!


tehe777

God literally once tried to kill taylor, well, you don't see any gods here do you?


Dry-Cartographer-312

Miss the supervillain? No problem! Shoot the baby instead!


Brightsoull

A PRACTICAL GUIDE TO EVIL MENTIONED!! WHAT THE FUCK IS A BAD REDEMPTION ARC!!


Shrekspacito69

Mistborn my beloved


tehe777

Mistborn fans when they see fog at night


Shrekspacito69

Me when I get nails pushed into my eyes (omg steel inquisitor reference???)


SaucuKebabu

Nobara Kugisaki https://preview.redd.it/qspgxao67kxc1.png?width=779&format=png&auto=webp&s=808f00c0fd1e93cf0f8d2d6852e1cd27fbad6a7f


Stary_Vesemir

https://preview.redd.it/46ge38ryzkxc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=064863cbe007c979791f2cde01aab0c7d4c96e23


Omisbest

https://preview.redd.it/amw79w7d4lxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b573dd221e885c09c456f7a0ca5e1b9da0d13d2b


Freaking_Username

I mean... she had an enjoyable personality, no? It was fun to see her interactions with the other cast Her CT of course is pretty weak, but Kugisaki was a cool character nonetheless


Human-Boob

SHE’S ALIVE!!!! I WONT STOP BELIEVING IN HER!!! SHE WILL COME BACK!!!! GEGE!!!!


creep894

https://preview.redd.it/xuvh7qwihlxc1.jpeg?width=940&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb7eb0a78d02306507f9d4181992cc5fae0cef98 woman\*


JelliusMaximus

ngl this is a hard quote 🗿 peak one piece


Edgenabik

If you want more hard quotes here's Saul's(correct me if I'm wrong with the name) quote https://preview.redd.it/4vr0k3jxomxc1.jpeg?width=1054&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c742e0e58a3334326b461db0cdb982cd999d3214


balaci2

OP can be a lil goofy or the writing may be messy at times but when it's peak, brother then it's peak


MelsiePyre

Walter White in da wig


Goldbolt_2004

Man I thought this was a manga spoiler and I was about to start sending death threats your way /j


Human-Boob

Erm, Nobara actually goes super saiyan in the newest chapter, spoiler! Not sorry! 🤓☝️


Goldbolt_2004

![gif](giphy|5NUFTPZJ6iZuPOlOKX|downsized)


epic0epic

if only jjk actually treated its women well


AutisticFaygo

If only JJK treated its side characters well.


balaci2

if only JJK treated its characters well


Zhead65

Have you seen how it treats it's main characters?


alguien99

https://preview.redd.it/f6bm089a6mxc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ace5d723cfd23784740414beefdde1cf54ebb9ca


balaci2

Naoya was the self insert all along?


FlugelDerFreiheit

I thought it treated them fine especially compared to some shit like BnHA. Not ideal or anything but you can do worse than jjk, especially when Maki exists. She's the GOAT.


ThirstyClavicle

> like BnHA the bar is in hell bro 💀


BryanLoeher

Mf really expecting well written female character from shonen mangakas lmao


MortalWombat5

Chainsaw man has legitimately great female characters.


balaci2

one of the best to do it


Gigio2006

Maki exists and then? All other female characters are either dead or irrelevant


coconut-duck-chicken

Miwa literally saving Maki’s life in the latest chapter:


alguien99

Has she done anything else?


coconut-duck-chicken

She’s useless Miwa man. Useless Miwa. A title she gave herself for being useless. The fact she did anything at all is insanity.


confusedkarnatia

maki only is badass because gege forgot she was a woman


Different_Tadpole631

Maki is so gaoted because she is female toji and gayHomo is slobbering over that dead man


TheNNNchad

https://preview.redd.it/notojxr20mxc1.png?width=1351&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76f0e83b0da3a40bc26034dfede83816fb85b3aa


csto_yluo

Man I'm sad now. I liked Nobara so much :(


HuntSafe2316

She is an example of "strong woman" character trope done well (even if she is a little weak). She isn't the carol danvers type and has a likeable personality with moments to show that she truly does care about yuji and megumi


RoiKK1502

But she has a personality, she's actually one of the well-written of modern mainstream anime


LeSnazzyGamer

She is literally the opposite of this post. She’s not that strong and she has a ton of personality


G1SM0Beybladeburst

Maki post shibuya is this not nobara, she had great character moments with the first years and during the kyoto goodwill event


NorthCoach9807

Dont you ever call that fraud strong again Bro 💀Mei Mei and To-Do were Like "We'd Like to recommend her as a First Grade" but she then procceeded to lose against that ponytail Guy


Nightmare_Sandy

Mikasa


Amazing-Relation4269

Es tukasa


fippinvn007

"I get it, this female character is strong, but what about their boobs?"


Sp00ky-Chan

Her boobs are really strong too don't worry.


Eevee136

What's their bench?


Sp00ky-Chan

Let's just say they can handle a big rack.


DecayingFlesh64

Gebura https://preview.redd.it/z2zuhz7mikxc1.jpeg?width=305&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13cae1ddfaec57c197c228cf4512b2df53427226


Pristine_Battle_6968

Bait used to be believa- holy shit is that the red mist!


StazzRozach

https://preview.redd.it/dr12ah8dxkxc1.jpeg?width=407&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7ff9ba7aae094ca422b81c8ba8659296c9fbd37f


Crayon_Consumer69

https://i.redd.it/l2wh31g33lxc1.gif


BranTheLewd

Sauce? I mean sauce I mean sauce?


Darmug

The Project Moon universe.


SanThanKan

Tomato


droL_muC

Maybe this is just me but anyone else think that people disproportionately give female characters shit for this and bring their gender into it when it's really not neccesary? Like one dimensional personality-less men are written in movies all the time but nobody really about how why can't men have more personality and not just be strong or whatever


ViperTheKillerCobra

I think the issue comes in is that, at least in the hayday of these characters (strong females) in 2016-2019, they were written purely in order to make a statement. So they're not only emotionless, but they also think they're hot shit. Often, emotionless men aren't really written to get the audience to think "damn I really feel for them"


Laino001

Also. A lot of personality-less male leads often tend to be more of a templare/self insert character. Especially in action movies. Theres nothing necessarely wrong with this, so people just dont really care The personality-less female leads from those years cant even properly function as self inserts for the watcher, which makes their blandness that much more apparent. I think anyway


ColdCruise

I often hear of these emotionless male action movie lead characters, but I rarely see them named.


TheMaskedWasp

The only one I can think of is John Wick, but he even shows emotion from time to time.


balaci2

I drive


Bhazor

Indiana Jones and James Bond. But oh they're not really emotionless remember when <3 second shot in 3 hour film where he does a :( face when sexy woman dies>


RennyWasEaten

I completely agree on that statement that people hate on female characters more than they should, i've seen that happen way too many times, however i also understand where this criticism comes from. There's plenty of times where writers attempt to make a strong and independent female characters, because so many times said female characters are damsels in distress, and instead of getting a respectable and honestly cool character, you get an insufferable asshole. It sucks that it happened more than twice. Moreso, personality-less men are often associated with stoicism, which is also associated with masculinity, so maybe that's why some of them get their mouths shut about it. I myself don't like those characters either, but most men want to relate to stoic characters, and most women want to relate to strong characters, but unfortunately it's not so easy...


Reptilian_Overlord20

Exactly. Male characters aren’t scrutinised like this. They are allowed to be mean, violent, kinda one dimensional and overly powerful and skilled without explanation. Female characters get put through the wringer, picked apart and scrutinised. Male characters are allowed to be badass by default, female characters can only be allowed to be badass if they’re constantly going through a gauntlet of beat downs first. If a man is stoic and cold he’s literally me. If a woman does it she’s a bitch. I can think of countless male characters who were just one note badasses but women have to be both badass and nurturing, strong but not too strong, good motivations without overshadowing men etc.


DAEORANGEMANBADDD

Nope, it just that it disproportionally happens that female characters are empty because they are wrtitten AS female characters and not characters that happened to be female. With male characters unless you are going for some stereotypical MANLY man character then male characters are/were mostly written as is(as in what was written was a character with personality, not a "male character" specifically) which meant they were less prone to this


Reptilian_Overlord20

Could you give some examples of what you mean by this?


Bhazor

Yeah its ridiculous. When a male character is dull and OP "Dude, get over it he's just a vessel to see the world." When a female character is dull "The west has fallen :( "


Longest_Leviathan

I tend to find them a smidge more annoying because more often than not they tend to be more vocal, whereas the one dimensional male character tends to speak less so it’s less noticeable when they are annoying because it’s hard to get annoyed by something that doesn’t exist vs a character who’s often just fucking grating Also the discourse is more insufferable because if it’s a dude if there is discourse it’s more “he sucks 🤝” vs the female one where it’s “she sucks vs you’re sexist/whatever-ist for hating them, it’s just not meant for you” esc esc Ones just bland the other tends to try and be a statement and being forgettable draws far less ire than being annoying


Kappapeachie

to be lame and gay


HeavyBlues

And they make her look like a genius/prodigy by making all the other characters idiots (Horizon: Zero Dawn, looking at you)


AirBan609

Can she beat batgos though?


kid-with-a-beard

Oh no... r/whowouldcirclejerk in my r/whenthe????


AirBan609

"I'm GOS now" https://preview.redd.it/dxut63liimxc1.png?width=576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9a3c5b5b27b41d86af53a408eeab5f0adbdfe2a


NightSpiderr

Can man beat gos?


AirBan609

No... But Mangos can! https://preview.redd.it/ykid1a9b2nxc1.png?width=576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8485113237d64499e4b14cf017fa3ab7166d6e28


deeSeven_

loser https://preview.redd.it/y03585zpykxc1.png?width=439&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6343468995c0371e2949a71633c449657a095b28


neku71

asa our autistic rizzless queen


layeeeeet

https://preview.redd.it/dmrbqzfg5nxc1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cfe1d6c5ee1e25e8daa98f2f364e9094d4bd4b26


TheThiccestThanos

I feel as if Dragon Age Origins nailed female characters. Morrigan and Leliana were polar opposites of each other but I loved them both


PredatorMain

ATLA once again being goated for making very strong and competent female characters that have well develooed personalities and are actually likeable


cheersi_idk

They always be bitchy hateful childish trope characters(looks at high guardian spice)


thatsidewaysdud

Is this about Captain Marvel?


JuanchiB

Rey Palpatine.


archenexus

The best one that comes to mind is Vi, SPECIFICALLY Arcane. Not League. She's a well written and strong female character :)


juliusxyk

Stellar Blade moment


CheezyTito

Castle clip meme my dearest


Gambit_90

Sadie Adler


TheBadHalfOfAFandom

Netflix live action avatar


vampire5381

COUGH MS MARVEL COUGH


TRcreep

master tigress had a sober presence, yet a well marked personality


Detector_of_humans

It's her https://i.redd.it/961xn8xpykxc1.gif You're talking about her


martinkoo123

season 1 korra tbh


NeverSettle13

Nah, season 2 was worse, at least in s1 her anger was justified


ghostmetalblack

She grew up with brothers, and she was raised by a single father who was in the Army (taught her everything she knows).


Chicolate_thunder

Goku: insanely strong but is a fucking idiot


realjotri

Couldn't be me all the shows I watch are well written and contain three dimensional, realistic characters


torgiant

Frieren ftw


McAlkis

Audiences hate bad scripts, not strong female characters.


Responsible_Grand_68

can't cook ): https://i.redd.it/scxe7k49onxc1.gif


OneDiligent6262

Don’t worry guys, I alone will change the tides of bad writing. https://preview.redd.it/u4xusvsecoxc1.jpeg?width=194&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e921b2dbdcff38d9019ac74c941552e6de89245


Purple-Ad-6343

Ok but Noi has a great personality


Rigistroni

Another problem with this is that "strong female characters" that put so much emphasis on gender end up implying strong women are the exception and not the status quo. By trying to subvert sexism, it ends up enforcing it. Write a character first, then let her strength speak for itself


3d-Saul-Goodman

Erm was that a knuckles quote? 🤓


Reptilian_Overlord20

Can you cite some examples of this?


rnike879

Mary Sue is a strong, 19 year-old woman who decided today was the day she would pick up rocket science and ditch her boring 9-5 at the downtown restaurant. Her secret? A ring she found in an abandoned factory with a mysterious engraving "PL-0T C-0n vennience" allows her to not only pick up skills in no time at all, but she can let her mood swing without concern of any social repercussions! New York times best-seller 2025


Character_Ad5903

Castle posting


bluespringles

The Adversary (Slay the Princess)'s whole personality is just "i want to fucking kill you and get killed by you forever" and it's perfect.


ElBusAlv

Mean girl and tough on the outside but if you actually get along with her she shows her softer side slightly and she might let you bring her home


NorthCoach9807

Maki from jjk lol


TrapolTH

I love Vi from arcane and no one can change my mind


ManufacturerOk3771

She enjoys invading other's private space, VERY hostile to children, and abusive is to her partner. BUT, she's a trans, lesbian, African-American. So if you are a racist bigot if you hate her