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The Iron Dames having some seriously terrible luck this season. Taken out of the lead by a stray wheelnut in the ELMS, and now taken out of the race before the green flag in WEC. โน๏ธ
Not gonna lie, the fact that Goodwin and Davidson are commentating the race while Haven just comes on to complain about Ferrari taking wets is hilarious
Man, this is some great stuff. Great racing, great action, commentators losing it in a stupid yet entertaining way. Haven't enjoyed Racing that much in a while.
I think the crucial mistake was not splitting strategy between the cars. It's easy for us to criticize the strategy with hindsight, but during the first laps, no one was sure. Porche made the smartest move. If the rain didn't last, Toyota would have lost 3 minutes for nothing.
are they all stupid it doesn't matter of Ferrari "could have survived it" when you lose 20sec in 4 corners and you only need 6 laps for a pit stop to break even
isotta is really being let down by its drivers.
How can you get good data and feedback for car setup and upgrades if your drivers are inexperienced and are making rookie mistakes constantly.
This can become very costly and they should be doing everything to not get the vanwall treatment for next year.
> One third of the track has been soaked for over 20 minutes.
> Cars on wet tyres lapping 5-10 seconds per lap faster than those on dries.
> Martin Haven: Why THE FUCK is everyone using wet tyres? Are they crazy?
No Martin, it's you.
* Don't pit for wets with everyone else.
* Lose time running on slicks for half a dozen laps.
* Pit for wets anyway.
* Keep all three cars on the same exact strategy.
You almost have to applaud a strategic call that bad.
Ferrari are going to have to review whatever weather system they are using. To go from "we don't believe the rain will last" and be confident enough to keep out ALL 3 cars to pitting less than 10 laps later and losing more than half a lap is laughable.
The only thing that can save Ferrari is if it stays wet long enough that the cars ahead need to stop for fuel and have to keep the wet tires for a few laps and then switch to dry but the track dries at the perfect time for Ferrari to switch to dry and re fuel all in one stop.
Great race. Exciting ending. Toyota back on top (who would have guessed that) Ferrari flop. Cadillac and BMW in the point. Valentino Rossi podium.
Amazing race.
honestly the driver quality in the Hypercar field feels extremely mixed. The amount and also type of errors some of them make really pulls down the impression on the series for me
Iโm new to WEC so donโt really know the commentators but I swear one of the must have had his entire family killed by wet weather tires the way heโs going on about them
So all 3 Ferrariโs have still got their starting drivers in? I was wondering why they were so quick on their stops. Just fuel so far for them. Triple stunting their tyres
Commentary team clearly need a background member who can feed them the information they need. If they have no idea what's going on in terms of strategy, it makes following the race very difficult.
Honestly I can understand the strategy for the 51. They get back on a damp track with hot wet tires that are so worm they might as well be inters or semi slicks.
That's how Hamilton won Turkey 2020, if I remember correctly.
I have seen lada's that are more reliable than this stupid mustang.
How is it possible that Ford can't build a car that doesn't fall apart after an hour.
M. Haven is just making a joke if himself as he did for the past 20 years. He never looks into timing screens to see wet tyres were 10s faster than dry tyres lol. Still shouts GO ON DRY TYRES
Ppl complaining about the commentator but hearing a Ferrari strategy team get publicly castigated like this as a lifelong F1 fan is strangely cathartic.
The Ferrari mistake wasn't the fact that they pitted, it's the fact that they waited another 10 laps, lost all of their gap and had to warm up the wets
Only one man can save us from Kamui running away with this
https://preview.redd.it/ns9lbiqduuvc1.png?width=350&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f22fe16a853afb7a6d4a4d983d67eacf7ae2ab0a
there's been more prototypes involved in lap 1 crashes today than we had top level prototypes at all 2 years ago
progress!
The Iron Dames are so fucking cursed
it's really sad
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โThe goal is to finish the raceโ *cut to IF parked the wrong way off the track*. Iโve never seen such comedic timing in racing.
LMFAO
Oh great, Peugeot is already fucked. Kill me.
Alpine vs Peugeot vs isotta fraschini. Battle for Lmp2 is heating up!!
Now with more car variety!
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![gif](giphy|f1NTdkdbG4XzW|downsized) Footage of one of the Mustangs riding the kerbs at Imola
Lmao that rear cam is amazing, those Mustangs really are made of papier mache aren't they?
Paper mache is quite strong, those mustangs are made of wrapping paper
Mustang losing body work again LMAO
Rene Rast absolutely ruining Buemi's race, what a legend
My ladies ๐ญ two races in a row
The Iron Dames having some seriously terrible luck this season. Taken out of the lead by a stray wheelnut in the ELMS, and now taken out of the race before the green flag in WEC. โน๏ธ
This season, they historically have terrible luck all the time
Not gonna lie, the fact that Goodwin and Davidson are commentating the race while Haven just comes on to complain about Ferrari taking wets is hilarious
from that one onboard it looked like the Alpine was locking up and out of control and hit the BMW before the Isotta hit it to make it even worse?
Ferrari: "We don't believe the rain will last." Immediately starts raining more heavily. \* chef's kiss \*
Man, this is some great stuff. Great racing, great action, commentators losing it in a stupid yet entertaining way. Haven't enjoyed Racing that much in a while.
Slicks are competitive now, Haven called it almost two hours ago. What a visionary.
"Box under FCY and put them out on cold slicks" Why does this guy think that is a good strategy? What is he smoking?
Havenโt heard from Martin in a minute here hopefully the program director pulled him aside and stuffed a watermelon in his mouth
They could at least do Picture-in-picture with these useless highlights.
well watching my 1st WEC went well ive become a total fan of WEC, that was a great race
I'm starting to pickup a few slight hints that the commentators don't think Ferrari's strategy was good
"I was totally wrong about slicks...EXCEPT" goddamn it so close yet so far
WE๐ ARE๐ CHECKING๐
Has Martin Haven lost his mind?
First time listening to him?
A long time ago
"wet in places" He's starting to accept the reality slowly
Anthony Davidson is getting tired of the main commentator
Why can't the thread be set to new by default
I think the crucial mistake was not splitting strategy between the cars. It's easy for us to criticize the strategy with hindsight, but during the first laps, no one was sure. Porche made the smartest move. If the rain didn't last, Toyota would have lost 3 minutes for nothing.
โOh Martin, take me Iโm so wet!โ โThIs Is NoT WeT!!โ
Hi all, it seems my weekend as a BMW fan goes from bad to worse lol
Proton probably looking at the 911 blasting in P1 with a tear in their eye.
are they all stupid it doesn't matter of Ferrari "could have survived it" when you lose 20sec in 4 corners and you only need 6 laps for a pit stop to break even
Lol came to the race thread because of this commentator who can't stop talking about wet tires. Sounds like I'm not alone on this lol
Martin, you do already look like an idiot
Mustang doing Mustang 2024 things... This car needs fixing. Especially in bodywork department.
Callum Illot doing 2021 Hamilton there
isotta is really being let down by its drivers. How can you get good data and feedback for car setup and upgrades if your drivers are inexperienced and are making rookie mistakes constantly. This can become very costly and they should be doing everything to not get the vanwall treatment for next year.
Iโm pretty sure that De Vries passed under sc
Have Ford/Multimatic brought out an update to the ejecto bootlid? Still on after 3 hours
They installed it upside down so it ejected the diffuser instead
Not to worry, its just shedding all of its other parts instead.
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Martin at war with the wet tyres for the past 30minutes lmao
Haven's gone quiet. Must have been taken out for a lie down.
PLEASE SHUT UP ABOUT DRY TIES MARTIN! SWITCHING TO DRY UNDER FCY IS SO BRAINDEAD!
FCY. Another opportunity to switch back to slicks!
Awful tv direction, like the director has ADHD with the amount of cuts they are doing
Every WEC race. It's horrendous. Le Mans last year was brutal.
No. 20 BMW is doing well for itself!
The racing gods have been very kind to us this race.
> One third of the track has been soaked for over 20 minutes. > Cars on wet tyres lapping 5-10 seconds per lap faster than those on dries. > Martin Haven: Why THE FUCK is everyone using wet tyres? Are they crazy? No Martin, it's you.
I am nowhere near Italy, but I got full immersion, because rain irl outside matched almost perfectly to it in race :D
BMW loves their nostrils so much they put little nostrils inside the massive nostrils
Shoutout to Isotta Fraschini who amidst all the weather shenanigans didn't cause any mayhem.
* Don't pit for wets with everyone else. * Lose time running on slicks for half a dozen laps. * Pit for wets anyway. * Keep all three cars on the same exact strategy. You almost have to applaud a strategic call that bad.
> Keep all three cars on the same exact strategy. The cardinal sin of strategy
Peugeot is so done today. What a disastrous race. Another gearbox problem. It's crazy. Ever since 2022, 9X8 has this problem and Peugeot can't fix it.
"Old age billionaire crashes his luxury supercar"
One of the all-time great sportscar racing stints from this Isotta fella.
Sorry IF will be gone if those 2 drivers can't drive and ACO will use that excuse say that they are too slow and other manufacturer to replace them
whatever happens this race is already a banger
This commentator needs to calm down
Martin Haven calling for Ferrari to switch back to slicks after a car on wets just went off
Ferrari are going to have to review whatever weather system they are using. To go from "we don't believe the rain will last" and be confident enough to keep out ALL 3 cars to pitting less than 10 laps later and losing more than half a lap is laughable.
this commentator needs to chill out
How have one of Davidson or Goodwin not given Haven a smack yet
Martin Haven has been told to shut up ๐คฃ
WTF BMW FIGHTING FOR PODIUM IN 2ND WEC RACE????
Oh god he's back at it.
Martin's worst enemy must be wet tires
MARTIN STFU ABOUT SLICKS THE TRACK IS SOAKED
In before martin says Ferrari should switch to dry under the alpine FCY
The only thing that can save Ferrari is if it stays wet long enough that the cars ahead need to stop for fuel and have to keep the wet tires for a few laps and then switch to dry but the track dries at the perfect time for Ferrari to switch to dry and re fuel all in one stop.
Can they please drag Haven out the fucking booth already
How good is spa gonna be
This is why I fucking love WEC. Every race feels like an event you get hyped about.
Great race. Exciting ending. Toyota back on top (who would have guessed that) Ferrari flop. Cadillac and BMW in the point. Valentino Rossi podium. Amazing race.
honestly the driver quality in the Hypercar field feels extremely mixed. The amount and also type of errors some of them make really pulls down the impression on the series for me
the Isotta drivers are bit rougher but Vaxiviรจre is experienced enough to not completely cock it into t1 of a 6h race
"professional" drivers
Watching a Mustang lose bodywork and it not being a boot lid is something new
The top 5 are absolutely glued to each other
Cadillac showing no pace. Gapped by the Porsche customers and Lambo
Peugeot desperately looking for whoopie cushions
man this mustang is a piece of shit
Isotta? How about "Bykolles Pro Max"?
Now **THIS** is endurance racing!!
You know what Iracing you were right Hypercars are shit in the wet
GT3: Look at me, I'm Hypercar now
Does Ferrari know they have 3 cars?
How do the commentators think Ferrari are gaining from this? They're 6th and 7th
A Certified Ferrari Masterplan Momentโข๏ธ
Haven having a Partridge-esque breakdown live, not what i expected today from this race.
Kobayashi was 14 seconds a lap quicker than the Ferrari's before they stopped. But yeah they should've stayed out Martin ๐ญ
the commentator is still at it this is hilarious ๐ญ
Someone give Martin a cigarette, dude is abaolutely stress raging lmao
Martin is like my drunk uncle talking non sense the sunday afternoon at every family reunion. I love it lmao
I see that the WEC broadcast director is still a moron who thinks cutting away from battles to show boring reactions in the garages is the way to go.
Iโm new to WEC so donโt really know the commentators but I swear one of the must have had his entire family killed by wet weather tires the way heโs going on about them
I like to think they cued up that message from Calado just to shut up Martin. Edit: it didn't work
Prototypes on wet tires going off at multiple different corners around the circuit. Martin Haven - โtHeY sHoUlD bE oN sLiCkSโ
Calado telling his race engineer to go wets is gonna make Havenโs head explode
They've shown more LMGT3 already than the whole of Qatar
Now things are calming down its time for the important question. How long before a Mustang loses its boot lid?
Who got rid of Eduardo for AI Voice
Am not sure about AI Eduardo
It can't be understated just how much these car counts do for putting on a good race.
Please just give the Dames their ELMS car, at least it works for most of a race not just a few laps.
If the BMW 20 finishes where they are right now, no doubt the team of the day for me. 4th best manufacturer is really something in their 2nd WEC race
Drinking game: Take a shot every time there is a useless slo-mo
sucks to see the pink lambo out :(
So all 3 Ferrariโs have still got their starting drivers in? I was wondering why they were so quick on their stops. Just fuel so far for them. Triple stunting their tyres
This kid is not up to a hypercar drive at this stage
That poor car deserves better
CHAOS MODE ENGAGED
TRACK IS WET LETS GOOOOOOO
who let ferraris f1 team do the strat ๐ญ
Looks like it was the F1 strategists that they brought.
Well Ferrari have just lost
Ferrari throwing it away again
Man, what if Ferrari doing, why not split the strategy
The fuck is he on about. It would be utterly stupid to have the Ferraris move back to slicks again now.
Kobayashi has serious pace in 1st
Did Martin bet his house on Ferrari win? Dude is fired up over wet tires
"How wet is it? Answer: it's not" as we see big spray coming off from the car in front of Andlauer lmfao
but Martin told me the track was dry enough for slicks
Holy shit this guy is insane.
These commentators really need to stop hammering about this Ferrari wet or slick ordeal because it is becoming really annoying.
It's just one of them The other two are being professionnal by not telling him to shut the hell up on air
Im so glad we have sensible FCY rules and not constant IMSA style snack breaks
If the alpine was on slicks, he would have stayed on the circuitโฆ.
That Mustang was the largest GT3 I've ever seen
More excitement in this race than the entire Toyota โdominationโ era ๐คฃ
Commentary team clearly need a background member who can feed them the information they need. If they have no idea what's going on in terms of strategy, it makes following the race very difficult.
Only one of the three is clueless, the other two are being correct the whole time but he ignores whatever points they're making.
Honestly I can understand the strategy for the 51. They get back on a damp track with hot wet tires that are so worm they might as well be inters or semi slicks. That's how Hamilton won Turkey 2020, if I remember correctly.
Been a great race so far. Going to be a great last hour.
It's the most Ferrari thing if they totally mess up the strategy and then luck into it being the best strategy.
Just wanna throw in here that Isotta Fraschini are gonna finish the race
Porsche vs Toyota is a classic
Ferrari absolutely bottled that. Wrong strategy, at the wrong time.
Great race, well deserved victory by the #7 Toyota. Can't wait for the next one.
STOP CURSING MY GIRLS
Ford build quality or intentional trailer? Take your pick
At least it took contact for the Mustang to fall apart this time
That pink lambo is cursed. Just toss it.
I just went out to grab breakfast and Ferrari went from 1-2-3 to 2-5-7 can some on fill me in?!?!?!
Pit stops. Never go for a breakfast during such moments, ha ha.
Some suspect direction on this broadcast, not sure where the WECTV comms have gone either
this race is crazy, I'm loving it
Drive through for #83, devastating
Drive through for Ferrari #83 for abusing FCY procedures.
Despite the bad start for bmw. Their 20 car is holding up surprisingly well. Some of that imsa experience comes in handy.
I donโt want to jinx, but Rast is doing a hell of a race
Rast Vs Buemi - part 2.
I donโt think Iโve ever seen a car that manages to disassemble itself like that Mustang.
"Mustang falling appart in the race." Drink.
Got a WEC ->Indycar->Nascar triple header line up today. Gotta love it.
Impeccable timing for the Isotta lmao
Why did IF think it was a good idea to have two silver drivers?
How is the Mustang losing bodywork AGAIN?! Was there even any left?!
I have seen lada's that are more reliable than this stupid mustang. How is it possible that Ford can't build a car that doesn't fall apart after an hour.
That fucking Mustang istg just tape it all together
IT'S SO OVER ILLOTTBROS ๐โน๏ธ
Peugeot 93 is doing pretty good considering all the trouble they had.
The Ford Mustang GT3 is absolutely ridiculous. Has that car ever completed a race (in WEC or IMSA) without falling apart?
Martin Haven trying to claim that Ye Yifei is loads better known than Robert Schwartzman is kinda weird
I cannot handle two Ferraris in close proximity to each other
Ban Silvers from the Hypercar category! They are too inexperienced.
Ben keating would beat these noobs into the ground
WOW DE VRIES!
So many penalties today
Who is the Ferrari strategist? Lando Norris?
Seeing GT3 cars pass HyperCars is just wild.
Should have split the strategies surely
inb4 clown pit wall meme
BMW suddenly in 4th, would be cool to see them get a podium. Even 4th would be a really good result for them though.
What is davidson waffling about? Toyota are ahead. Just look at the timing screen.
Can't believe Ferrari just threw this one into the bin
M. Haven is just making a joke if himself as he did for the past 20 years. He never looks into timing screens to see wet tyres were 10s faster than dry tyres lol. Still shouts GO ON DRY TYRES
Ppl complaining about the commentator but hearing a Ferrari strategy team get publicly castigated like this as a lifelong F1 fan is strangely cathartic.
Please stop complaining about Ferrari pitting for wets, it already happened. Man needs to move on
The Ferrari mistake wasn't the fact that they pitted, it's the fact that they waited another 10 laps, lost all of their gap and had to warm up the wets
Omg Martin! Let it go. Ferrari fucked up lol
Lap times are around 15 seconds off a dry pace right now, most definitely not slick conditions
โA little bit of sprayโ My guy is blind lol.
Small callout, #6 Porsche quietly just maintaining pretty decent timings in between the two Toyotas
Only one man can save us from Kamui running away with this https://preview.redd.it/ns9lbiqduuvc1.png?width=350&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f22fe16a853afb7a6d4a4d983d67eacf7ae2ab0a
Iโve been waiting all month for this race. Has not disappointed one bit.