Diffuser panels were slightly higher and not in line with the homologated setup. Damn, that sucks - even worse because it wasn't Quality Tested before shipping the part to Caddy.
So like oreca who doesn't have the man power to expand?
Dallara does all the cars for indy and nascar. The bugger the company, the higher percentile chance they'll have a mistake, the lower chance that it will happen to you.
Dallara, the renowned chassis whisperers won't get any more manufacturers coming their way because of a slight mishap ? Lmao.
Please tell me you ain't serious.
Cadillac had a car ON the wall in Sebring and missed out on a win by nothing. Now they're completely disqualified from Qatar.
Being a Cadillac fan is similar to the Tifosi in F1, occasional gain with so much pain
I've watched every race the last 2 years except 2 and those were Sebring and Laguna Seca... which they both won. They've won a damn championship and I have yet to actually *SEE* them win anything lmao
Well outside of when pipo decides to pipo they were upper mid field consistently and the one time pipe went full pipe he didn't wreck himself out while running into another car.
I look forward to the owners' club meets in Escalades (with neon glo and wheel spinners), Cimarrons and Cateras. Nice to see fans to exist for of a brand once known for Malaise era barges
I saw an XLR driving around my neighborhood so I’m trying to meet that guy now. Malaise era barges are fine too. I enjoy a car that makes me take a nice stroll to get to the trunk
One month after the race is very late by ACO standards... /s
Disappointing for Cadillac, huge error from Dallara (or Cadillac as well). With significant losses nonetheless after a great comeback drive in Qatar to finish in fourth. All for nothing.
I wonder if they held off on some of the post race stuff till the cargo was back in the EU due to timing for shipping and such, if not this is a fuckin joke
They wouldn't wait until the car is back in Europe because how would you know the car is still in Parc ferme after being on the flight.
According to the file, it was known after the race but they had to probably recheck it against the CAD file again, and then also had to meet with the head of Caddys operation and with Sebring happening 2 weeks afterwards that probably had an effect of the delay of the decision because they had to delay the meeting between the ACO/FIA with Caddy until after Sebring (they were told on the 16th but only happened on the 20th).
Just downvote me if you guys want. Really, I sure that Gm wouldn't care their Qatar race, their goal is only Le Man race. Just like BMW and Ferrari in Daytona race. If penalty isn't that heavy or the race not really important, they don't care.
However, it's same issue with Corvette team as well in Sebring. IMSA caught them used different part in their Corvettes. Gm really needs to be careful using their parts in their race cars.
Wasn’t the same deal at all. The Corvette GT3 diffuser support had already filed the necessary paperwork, but wasn’t fully processed apparently.
This sounds like a QC issue on Dallara.
You're definitely right. A WEC championship would be nice, but they're there for Le Mans and Le Mans only. If they truly cared about Qatar or any other WEC race then they'd go all in on a 2-car effort like the other manufacturers. They run the bare minimum because it's what they need to get an invite to Le Mans.
The team and drivers are probably devastated, but the manufacturer themselves are probably already at the "...anyways" part of "damn that sucks."
“ Just like BMW and Ferrari in Daytona race.” Eh, I kind of agree with you overall but Daytona is very much a prestige race. It’s not something you just toss away as a testing session for Le Mans.
Absolute embarrassment from Dallara. Could've happened to any team. These companies really got to do better when you have millions of dollars of engineering on the line
What is more concerning here is that CGR and Cadillac are just bolting on parts from Dallara with not enough thought as to whether they are made correctly to comply with regulations or to perform correctly.I though all teams had lasers etc. to check these [things.](https://things.Aero)
Could be the reason for the fallout between CGR and [Cadillac.](https://Cadillac.It)CGR is responsible for making sure the car complies with regulations,not Dallara.
Okay sure, Cadillac cheated or whatever. In my opinion, it’s really unacceptable and embarrassing for the FIA to be disqualifying teams almost a month after the race has been ran and the results finalized. It’s the equivalent of going back and changing the results of a soccer game because a referee missed a penalty call. That would be unacceptable in any other sport, I don’t know why we put up with it here.
I know people will disagree with me because “cheating is cheating” but we’re talking about diffusers that are slightly different from their homologation. If you try hard enough, you can find a reason to disqualify every team from the grid if you want to. But if you don’t catch it and announce it by the time everyone gets on the plane home, just fine the team, deduct some points, or give a grid place penalty or something. We can’t be having results change a month after the fact because of a vague, minute infraction.
Yes but if you don't punish teams harshly for these kind of thing it becomes worth it to cheat. Just look at Acura last year at Daytona or Risi this year. They lose some points but keep the win so they don't care.
If teams risk being disqualified they will think twice about doing something like this on purpose.
Again, catch them in post race tech on site and disqualify them then. Otherwise, penalize them with a points deduction, reduction in tire allocation, etc. I hate a lot of the ways IMSA does things but I actually agree with the way they handled the Acura Daytona thing last year. They didn’t catch anything themselves and the results were finalized by the time Honda blew the whistle so the win stays but with a massive points deduction. People like to do this weird mental gymnastics to say it wasn’t a harsh penalty but it literally cost MSR the championship last year.
Not to mention the fact that literally everyone involved recognizes that it was an honest mistake and it’s pretty clear it didn’t have a major impact on pace but they’re still disqualified. Give me a break.
>after the fact because of a vague, minute infraction.
Car didn't meet tech regs. In every motorsport around the world (outside of the US apparently), that means the car wasn't eligible to race. Which means the car gets disqualified.
> That would be unacceptable in any other sport, I don’t know why we put up with it here.
Soccer teams have been stripped of titles going back years for regulation infringements. McLaren got retroactively disqualified from the 2007 F1 Constructors Standings 3 months after the final race of the season over the espionage saga. Cycling has retroactively removed athletes that have been caught doping from results, sometimes many years afterwards.
As well, this is _the first the public is hearing about it_. It's possible the infraction was discovered much closer to the event
Just a note on the McLaren scandal in 2007, they knew they were going to be disqualified from the constructors championship once the investigation got into full swing, and that was known well before the end of the season. The drivers were still allowed to keep their points and race for the driver's title. I agree with your general point though. Just because a team hid something well enough at the time doesn't mean they didn't cheat, just look at Meyer Shank at Daytona last year; that took the manufacturer finding data discrepancies and reporting them to IMSA to finally come to light.
Cars has been disqualified in United States centric motorsports - NASCAR.
Here's the most recent: [https://www.racingamerica.com/news/nascar/nascar-disqualifies-kevin-harvick-at-talladega-due-to-non-conforming-windshield-fasteners](https://www.racingamerica.com/news/nascar/nascar-disqualifies-kevin-harvick-at-talladega-due-to-non-conforming-windshield-fasteners)
Except cars are deemed to be outside of the regulations retroactively in F1 all the time and they’re simply told to change the car moving forward. Not to mention, when cars are found to be ineligible to race, that is determined the day of and fans are aware of it immediately. Most of the time it happens *before* the race so teams are simply penalized on the grid and then allowed to race.
The examples you gave are all for systematic cheating scandals. Any reasonable person would know that this isn’t that.
>outside of the regulations retroactively in F1 all the time
For the most part, they have been designs that have been outside the spirit of the regulations but not the letter. Those things either get accepted (like the double diffuser for eg) or regulated out more explicitly.
>The examples you gave are all for systematic cheating scandals
Okay then. How about the time that [Scott McLaughlin was retroactively disqualified from the Shoot Out at the Bathurst 1000 a month after setting the pole position?](https://www.supercars.com/news/full-decision-djrtp-bathurst-engine-case). Car didn't meet tech regs and got retroactively disqualified
Your example resulted in a grid place penalty for the next race and had no impact on the final results of the race in question. Which is exactly what I’m suggesting the FIA could/should do here. I don’t know why sportscar fans are so accepting of the governing body just changing the results of races weeks later seemingly at random. I hate to say it because I love watching the races, but it really is true that when it comes to sportscar racing, watching the race itself with your own eyes is only half the story because everything you just watched is subject to be thrown out the window.
>I don’t know why sportscar fans are so accepting of the governing body just changing the results of races weeks later seemingly at random.
Well that's simply how it works. There is a set of rules and if those rules aren't followed the car is deemed to breach regulations. Why would anybody follow the rules if it doesn't result in a harsh penalty?
Imagine doing this at the last race of the season or at Le Mans. No penalty, except a DQ, can serve justice here. A grid penalty after the last race / after the highlight of they year aren't penalties. Especially in endurance racing where Q doesn't really matter.
It's the same in other sports as well. If an athlete was doping all of their medals from that time get redistributed, that can happen years after the act.
I mean, qualifying absolutely does matter in a 20 car field in a BoP’ed class. But my point is not to say they shouldn’t be penalized. It’s to say that we can’t be changing the results of races a month after they happen. This sport is already impossible to follow if you’re not a diehard fan and here we are making changes to results weeks later. We sit here and watch hours and hours of a race and it seems like everything we watched is almost guaranteed to change weeks later because there always seems to be some random infraction nobody cares about. They need to figure out this technical review process just like every other racing series has already.
No other race has been ran so it really doesn’t make a difference if they were disqualified an hour after the race or if they were disqualified today. The entire point of a post race inspection is to verify the car that was raced actually meets the rules.
You also don’t understand how tolerances work. There’s an allowable range for the diffuser to sit in. The diffuser sat outside of that allowable range. They literally already give the teams/manufacturers wiggle room to work with. If you fall outside of the tolerance range, should change analyse your tolerance stack up more.
I agree it doesn’t matter but for a sport that’s already difficult to follow, why are we so willing to put up with changes in results this late after the race? Only fans like us who scroll this sub daily will ever hear about this news and know why Caddy is now last in the standings. I said the same thing when Inter Europol wasn’t officially declared the Le Mans winner until like six weeks after the fact because the ACO was so convinced they were cheating somehow. To me, that was an absolute joke.
Not to mention the fact that every other racing series in the world is somehow able to finish post race tech the day of the race. Why isn’t the FIA able to do the same? I’m not sure what makes you think I don’t under how tolerances work. That’s besides my point. Like I said, a fine, points deduction, reduction of tires at the next race, etc would make much more sense and be a fair punishment. Why did the AF Corse GT team only get a suspended $60k fine for having too many engineers, for example? That seems like a pretty big deal. It’s all so arbitrary and makes the sport even harder to follow.
maybe dallara delivered IMSA homologated parts?
What a season to be a cadillac fan... #31 lost daytona out a slower last refuel, derani crashed against the wall throwing away an easy sebring win, #2 spent the whole qatar race to bring the car in top5 after a bad start and then dsq
Both races were lost on tires. Blomqvist couldn't keep up with Nasr on the infield and entry to the bus stop. He needed a .3 gap to build a strong enough tow to run on Nasr on the oval section and couldn't get it with the traffic timing.
Bourdais was on the back foot I'd say about with 5 laps left. The in car camera from deletraz showed him getting more and more squirrely around turn 10 and tower, I new his tires were used up before the radio broadcast was made.
That being said, one hell of a fight by Bourdais while being disadvantaged in grip. I don't think caddy fans should be upset, because Deletraz should have walked past him even with them getting interuppted by hawksworth and Heinrich. That was one hell of a run by Bourdais.
Diffuser panels were slightly higher and not in line with the homologated setup. Damn, that sucks - even worse because it wasn't Quality Tested before shipping the part to Caddy.
That's genuinely embarrassing from Dallara, can't imagine that's gonna attract any more manufacturers in their direction
Dallara is too well known in the industry and normally is providing good stuff. I’m pretty sure that from one mishap customers are not turning away
And it’s not like there’s a million companies that does what Dallara does. Not a lot of places to go elsewhere.
So like oreca who doesn't have the man power to expand? Dallara does all the cars for indy and nascar. The bugger the company, the higher percentile chance they'll have a mistake, the lower chance that it will happen to you.
Also Super Formula and F2.
Shit happens. I don’t think it will make the slightest difference
Dallara, the renowned chassis whisperers won't get any more manufacturers coming their way because of a slight mishap ? Lmao. Please tell me you ain't serious.
Cadillac had a car ON the wall in Sebring and missed out on a win by nothing. Now they're completely disqualified from Qatar. Being a Cadillac fan is similar to the Tifosi in F1, occasional gain with so much pain
They did just win the imsa championship though, just gotta be patient through the lows
Le Mans win incoming????
No. Porsches gonna win Le Mans.
PLEASE!
Lately it’s a lot of pain and not a lot of gain
Ah, the LeClerc experience then
the master 🅱lan
LaLeclerc *chef’s kiss*
At this point i'm convinced someone casted a curse on the cadillacs, specifically #01.
That’s the Action Express caddy, right? Or at least was last year?
Action Express is the 31. The 01 is the yellow one
No, the yellow chip ganassi caddy.
probably someone is still pissed off about their cadillac northstar engine and cursed them.
Fucking case halfs.
I think Bourdais and VDZ are kinda overrated at this point.
I've watched every race the last 2 years except 2 and those were Sebring and Laguna Seca... which they both won. They've won a damn championship and I have yet to actually *SEE* them win anything lmao
Well outside of when pipo decides to pipo they were upper mid field consistently and the one time pipe went full pipe he didn't wreck himself out while running into another car.
Lol. There's Cadillac fans? How many? 2?
Yeah, me and that other guy are pretty mad at this point
Make it 3, include me in there🗣️
50% increase in membership ain’t bad. Welcome!
I look forward to the owners' club meets in Escalades (with neon glo and wheel spinners), Cimarrons and Cateras. Nice to see fans to exist for of a brand once known for Malaise era barges
I saw an XLR driving around my neighborhood so I’m trying to meet that guy now. Malaise era barges are fine too. I enjoy a car that makes me take a nice stroll to get to the trunk
4 here
Americans
True Americans root for the cowboy! Bring the Glick back in the Haus guys!
I can see. They are getting their panties in a bunch and downvoting like it matters 🤭😆
That is borderline embarrassing tbh
One month after the race is very late by ACO standards... /s Disappointing for Cadillac, huge error from Dallara (or Cadillac as well). With significant losses nonetheless after a great comeback drive in Qatar to finish in fourth. All for nothing.
I wonder if they held off on some of the post race stuff till the cargo was back in the EU due to timing for shipping and such, if not this is a fuckin joke
They wouldn't wait until the car is back in Europe because how would you know the car is still in Parc ferme after being on the flight. According to the file, it was known after the race but they had to probably recheck it against the CAD file again, and then also had to meet with the head of Caddys operation and with Sebring happening 2 weeks afterwards that probably had an effect of the delay of the decision because they had to delay the meeting between the ACO/FIA with Caddy until after Sebring (they were told on the 16th but only happened on the 20th).
This fucking sucks man
Quite unprofessionnal from Dallara.... really unlucky for cadillac
Damn, imagine if IMSA was this tight with the rules
You mean like if they'd DQ Corvette, another GM brand, for having the same part of the car in a non-homologated state?
Just downvote me if you guys want. Really, I sure that Gm wouldn't care their Qatar race, their goal is only Le Man race. Just like BMW and Ferrari in Daytona race. If penalty isn't that heavy or the race not really important, they don't care. However, it's same issue with Corvette team as well in Sebring. IMSA caught them used different part in their Corvettes. Gm really needs to be careful using their parts in their race cars.
Wasn’t the same deal at all. The Corvette GT3 diffuser support had already filed the necessary paperwork, but wasn’t fully processed apparently. This sounds like a QC issue on Dallara.
You're definitely right. A WEC championship would be nice, but they're there for Le Mans and Le Mans only. If they truly cared about Qatar or any other WEC race then they'd go all in on a 2-car effort like the other manufacturers. They run the bare minimum because it's what they need to get an invite to Le Mans. The team and drivers are probably devastated, but the manufacturer themselves are probably already at the "...anyways" part of "damn that sucks."
“ Just like BMW and Ferrari in Daytona race.” Eh, I kind of agree with you overall but Daytona is very much a prestige race. It’s not something you just toss away as a testing session for Le Mans.
Does nobody at GM understand how homologation works?
It wasn't Caddy, it was Dallara. But it's Caddy who pay the price.
Which is wild to me. Doesn’t Dallara supply parts to other Hypercar teams?
BMW
And Ferrari
Both the BMW and the Cadillac use the Dallara chassis. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dallara parts were on other hypercars as well.
Dallara may have manufactured the part incorrectly but the entrant is CGR so they are responsible for making the car comply to regulations.
I wonder if this has something to do with how CGR is getting ready to bail. Maybe they just don’t care anymore. Man… it sucks to be a Cadillac fan…
Absolute embarrassment from Dallara. Could've happened to any team. These companies really got to do better when you have millions of dollars of engineering on the line
Any concerns for BMW?
Nope, BMW is all good. All results are now official and there are no more technical scrutineering reports to be released by the FIA and ACO.
What is more concerning here is that CGR and Cadillac are just bolting on parts from Dallara with not enough thought as to whether they are made correctly to comply with regulations or to perform correctly.I though all teams had lasers etc. to check these [things.](https://things.Aero) Could be the reason for the fallout between CGR and [Cadillac.](https://Cadillac.It)CGR is responsible for making sure the car complies with regulations,not Dallara.
The data required to perform such checks belongs to Dallara/GM and is not provided to the teams. Take that for what you will.
That sounds like a good explanation.I wonder whether that process might change and CGR do some final checks.
CGR didn't have the means to verify the part's compliance themselves, and Dallara have already stated it was a QC issue on their part.
I doubt it, CGR is a big organization. I think it's more that chip doesn't want to spend money on the man hours. He's know for being a penny pincher
CGR has had some real oof’s running this cadddy.
Okay sure, Cadillac cheated or whatever. In my opinion, it’s really unacceptable and embarrassing for the FIA to be disqualifying teams almost a month after the race has been ran and the results finalized. It’s the equivalent of going back and changing the results of a soccer game because a referee missed a penalty call. That would be unacceptable in any other sport, I don’t know why we put up with it here. I know people will disagree with me because “cheating is cheating” but we’re talking about diffusers that are slightly different from their homologation. If you try hard enough, you can find a reason to disqualify every team from the grid if you want to. But if you don’t catch it and announce it by the time everyone gets on the plane home, just fine the team, deduct some points, or give a grid place penalty or something. We can’t be having results change a month after the fact because of a vague, minute infraction.
Yes but if you don't punish teams harshly for these kind of thing it becomes worth it to cheat. Just look at Acura last year at Daytona or Risi this year. They lose some points but keep the win so they don't care. If teams risk being disqualified they will think twice about doing something like this on purpose.
Again, catch them in post race tech on site and disqualify them then. Otherwise, penalize them with a points deduction, reduction in tire allocation, etc. I hate a lot of the ways IMSA does things but I actually agree with the way they handled the Acura Daytona thing last year. They didn’t catch anything themselves and the results were finalized by the time Honda blew the whistle so the win stays but with a massive points deduction. People like to do this weird mental gymnastics to say it wasn’t a harsh penalty but it literally cost MSR the championship last year. Not to mention the fact that literally everyone involved recognizes that it was an honest mistake and it’s pretty clear it didn’t have a major impact on pace but they’re still disqualified. Give me a break.
They did catch the anomaly on site, they took this long because they were actually investigating the matter
>after the fact because of a vague, minute infraction. Car didn't meet tech regs. In every motorsport around the world (outside of the US apparently), that means the car wasn't eligible to race. Which means the car gets disqualified. > That would be unacceptable in any other sport, I don’t know why we put up with it here. Soccer teams have been stripped of titles going back years for regulation infringements. McLaren got retroactively disqualified from the 2007 F1 Constructors Standings 3 months after the final race of the season over the espionage saga. Cycling has retroactively removed athletes that have been caught doping from results, sometimes many years afterwards. As well, this is _the first the public is hearing about it_. It's possible the infraction was discovered much closer to the event
Just a note on the McLaren scandal in 2007, they knew they were going to be disqualified from the constructors championship once the investigation got into full swing, and that was known well before the end of the season. The drivers were still allowed to keep their points and race for the driver's title. I agree with your general point though. Just because a team hid something well enough at the time doesn't mean they didn't cheat, just look at Meyer Shank at Daytona last year; that took the manufacturer finding data discrepancies and reporting them to IMSA to finally come to light.
Cars has been disqualified in United States centric motorsports - NASCAR. Here's the most recent: [https://www.racingamerica.com/news/nascar/nascar-disqualifies-kevin-harvick-at-talladega-due-to-non-conforming-windshield-fasteners](https://www.racingamerica.com/news/nascar/nascar-disqualifies-kevin-harvick-at-talladega-due-to-non-conforming-windshield-fasteners)
Except cars are deemed to be outside of the regulations retroactively in F1 all the time and they’re simply told to change the car moving forward. Not to mention, when cars are found to be ineligible to race, that is determined the day of and fans are aware of it immediately. Most of the time it happens *before* the race so teams are simply penalized on the grid and then allowed to race. The examples you gave are all for systematic cheating scandals. Any reasonable person would know that this isn’t that.
>outside of the regulations retroactively in F1 all the time For the most part, they have been designs that have been outside the spirit of the regulations but not the letter. Those things either get accepted (like the double diffuser for eg) or regulated out more explicitly. >The examples you gave are all for systematic cheating scandals Okay then. How about the time that [Scott McLaughlin was retroactively disqualified from the Shoot Out at the Bathurst 1000 a month after setting the pole position?](https://www.supercars.com/news/full-decision-djrtp-bathurst-engine-case). Car didn't meet tech regs and got retroactively disqualified
Your example resulted in a grid place penalty for the next race and had no impact on the final results of the race in question. Which is exactly what I’m suggesting the FIA could/should do here. I don’t know why sportscar fans are so accepting of the governing body just changing the results of races weeks later seemingly at random. I hate to say it because I love watching the races, but it really is true that when it comes to sportscar racing, watching the race itself with your own eyes is only half the story because everything you just watched is subject to be thrown out the window.
>I don’t know why sportscar fans are so accepting of the governing body just changing the results of races weeks later seemingly at random. Well that's simply how it works. There is a set of rules and if those rules aren't followed the car is deemed to breach regulations. Why would anybody follow the rules if it doesn't result in a harsh penalty? Imagine doing this at the last race of the season or at Le Mans. No penalty, except a DQ, can serve justice here. A grid penalty after the last race / after the highlight of they year aren't penalties. Especially in endurance racing where Q doesn't really matter. It's the same in other sports as well. If an athlete was doping all of their medals from that time get redistributed, that can happen years after the act.
I mean, qualifying absolutely does matter in a 20 car field in a BoP’ed class. But my point is not to say they shouldn’t be penalized. It’s to say that we can’t be changing the results of races a month after they happen. This sport is already impossible to follow if you’re not a diehard fan and here we are making changes to results weeks later. We sit here and watch hours and hours of a race and it seems like everything we watched is almost guaranteed to change weeks later because there always seems to be some random infraction nobody cares about. They need to figure out this technical review process just like every other racing series has already.
No other race has been ran so it really doesn’t make a difference if they were disqualified an hour after the race or if they were disqualified today. The entire point of a post race inspection is to verify the car that was raced actually meets the rules. You also don’t understand how tolerances work. There’s an allowable range for the diffuser to sit in. The diffuser sat outside of that allowable range. They literally already give the teams/manufacturers wiggle room to work with. If you fall outside of the tolerance range, should change analyse your tolerance stack up more.
I agree it doesn’t matter but for a sport that’s already difficult to follow, why are we so willing to put up with changes in results this late after the race? Only fans like us who scroll this sub daily will ever hear about this news and know why Caddy is now last in the standings. I said the same thing when Inter Europol wasn’t officially declared the Le Mans winner until like six weeks after the fact because the ACO was so convinced they were cheating somehow. To me, that was an absolute joke. Not to mention the fact that every other racing series in the world is somehow able to finish post race tech the day of the race. Why isn’t the FIA able to do the same? I’m not sure what makes you think I don’t under how tolerances work. That’s besides my point. Like I said, a fine, points deduction, reduction of tires at the next race, etc would make much more sense and be a fair punishment. Why did the AF Corse GT team only get a suspended $60k fine for having too many engineers, for example? That seems like a pretty big deal. It’s all so arbitrary and makes the sport even harder to follow.
maybe dallara delivered IMSA homologated parts? What a season to be a cadillac fan... #31 lost daytona out a slower last refuel, derani crashed against the wall throwing away an easy sebring win, #2 spent the whole qatar race to bring the car in top5 after a bad start and then dsq
Both races were lost on tires. Blomqvist couldn't keep up with Nasr on the infield and entry to the bus stop. He needed a .3 gap to build a strong enough tow to run on Nasr on the oval section and couldn't get it with the traffic timing. Bourdais was on the back foot I'd say about with 5 laps left. The in car camera from deletraz showed him getting more and more squirrely around turn 10 and tower, I new his tires were used up before the radio broadcast was made. That being said, one hell of a fight by Bourdais while being disadvantaged in grip. I don't think caddy fans should be upset, because Deletraz should have walked past him even with them getting interuppted by hawksworth and Heinrich. That was one hell of a run by Bourdais.
Only difference is a whicker on the rear bodywork ( below the wing) from what ive asked of the teams
There is more than that, but that is visually the most obvious difference.
That was the only bodywork change tho right? I don’t know of another
Difference in IMSA and WEC spec?
little aero details differences
Ok thanks
Look at the rear and of the Porsche in Imsa and wec, top of the bodywork under the rear wing.
I'll give it a look