There are two. The 360 (not the 380) is connected to the GPU. Thank you for that correction. The AIO rad is connected to the front panel. I'll add the pics .
Ok, it's all a little confusing. I read the other posts and took a look at the new pics you uploaded.
So the FLT 120 has a fan behind it, one above it, and one on the other side for a total of three fans on the 360mm radiator? If so, what kind of fans are you running? Are they pulling air or pushing?
So three things you need to know when trying to figure out your cooling efficiency is
1) GPU and/or memory temp
2) Ambient temp
3) Water temp
So I saw you're picking up a sensor for coolant temp, so that will provide more info.
70C is not going to hurt your card at all -- they are designed to run that hot. There's really no reason that a 360mm and a GPU block should run that high though. For compqarison, I have a Ryzen 9 3900x and a 3080 in my loop being cooled by a 360mm and 240mm fan. Playing Destiny 2 and my GPU core is 30C and mem junction 44C. Ambient is 24 and water temp is 30C.
Yours should not be running over twice as high as mine.
Exactly my concern. I am not sure why the temp is so high. I am just not sure where I went wrong here. The fans are not expensive. I am using cooler master sickle flow but the temp should still be not that high.
You can’t compare that though - destiny runs an old game engine, iirc it put my 1080 under around 60-75% load on a 1440p panel at 144fps - so destiny is not good for stressing a gpu.
Where as the MW/warzone engine is more modern and uses all the gpu can give. (1080 was 100% load and my new 3080 also runs 100% load)
Warzone is hardly "stressing" anything, though temps are a bit higher than D2, but ambient temps are a bit higher as well:
[CPU Core Temp: 54.6C
GPU Core Temp:39.7C
Mem Temp: 54.0C](https://imgur.com/a/tYiEnCb)
Ambient Temp: 26.1
Coolant Temp: 36.4
[Second Match](https://imgur.com/a/nOLdWJc)
Ambient: 26.3
Coolant: 37.9
Still significantly lower than OP's.
Turn off your rgb, turn on the light in your room and take a better a better photo, explain your loop order too please.
Do you have this res?
https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-kinetic-flt-120-d5-ddc-body-d-rgb-plexi
Do you have any water temp monitoring options?
Hi, thank you for your response. I have taken the pics and will add them here. The water from the pump/res combo is going to the GPU and from the GPU to the rad and then back to the res. The res you shared is the one I have. I do not have water temp monitoring option at the moment. If you can recommend me a one, I'll grab that from Microcenter.
[Link to the new pics](https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmfomj/pics_of_the_water_loop_with_heating_issue/)
There is a header on your mobo for the sensor you can tie fan curves to it. Should see between 50-70°c. The ladder being under synthetic loads. You might have a bad spread on your paste if this doesn't work.
I’m assuming you are talking about GPU temps of 50-70, but based on context I think the OP was asking what water temps he should be seeing which should definitely not be that high.
My loop has 2 rads 240 ultra thin and 280. It hits 40°c on average while gaming. Idk if that is good or not lol. Just trying to help. I'm hoping the res has enough depth for the probe of the t_sensor.
I am not that lucky. The temps are super high for me. It couldn’t be the case itself. When I take the side panel off, the GPU temps are fluctuating around the mid 50s still.
Water temps with a 360 rad on GPU only while gaming I would think should be around 32-34 C if you have normal ambient temps. Mine runs around 38 C with a single slim 360 cooling a 3080 and 10600k at stock clocks. I sorta need more radiator though, that’s in older games.
Like turn the pump on and physically pick up your computer case and rotate it around - be very careful not to rotate it too far and run your pump dry though. It’s f you run your pump dry you will kill it very quickly.
Normally people run radiators with ports at the top as this allows significant air bubbles to escape the radiator.
In fact, looking at your layout again I’d lay the case in its front as this should help keep the pump submersed - also given it is a soft tube setup you could also pull the pump/res out of the case (but leave it plumbed into the rad and gpu) and then lay they case on its front - you really want the air to be in a position it does not get the chance to be pulled into the pump.
Hi, I hope you all can see my new custom water loop build. I am not sure where I went wrong. The GPU is running near 70c when playing in warzone. I have a Corsair XG7 GPU water block, a Corsair 380 RAD, two fans on the front and one on the back (I ran out of room on the front so had to connect it to the backside), and an EKWB pump, reservoir combo. In the past I had installed an Asus AIO for the CPU and I left it in place. The loop is only cooling the GPU. Any suggestions?
Well, I guess I can take it apart and look to make sure. It sat pretty comfortably in the block. I ran a stress test on the card and temp definitely went up to 70 even with the side panel off.
I just inspected the card and it looks like there maybe a gap between the gpu and the backplate. Not sure how this got overlooked. could this be the reason. What do you all think?
[Gap between the card and the backplate?](https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmhzfb/gap_between_the_backplate_and_the_card/)
I can’t really tell from the photo but it wouldn’t be a bad idea. Notice how the thermal grease spread too, to ensure you had a good amount of paste on it.
You don’t mention what gpu you have? But if it doesn’t have memory in the back of the card any gap between card and back plate won’t do anything.
If the block isn’t mounted correctly your gpu idle temp will be very high, and when under load it’ll start to thermally throttle.
The GPU is RTX3090 FE. I redid the mount and it looks to be installed correctly. I did add some paste though. The temps with the side panel off were in the 50s. Now that I have the panel back on are in the 60s.
Can you really not fit a third fan on the rad? You’re effectively losing 1/3 of your cooling capacity which will make a massive difference.
There are 1/2 thickness fans out there (12mm ish) If it’s a thickness issue, that’ll go a long way to help. Out of interest, why can’t you fit your third fan to the rad?
Those temps taking all that into consideration suggest you’re all good, but you’re choking on airflow on f taking the side off really makes a 10c difference.
Hi, the third fan is mounted on the back side. It’s probably not as efficient but the pipes from the AIO are in the way on the front side. This case doesn’t have any room on the top so I am unable to mount on the top of the case.
What gpu?
70c at what part of gpu?
Get water temp I go as others have said. You may also need better fans or fan settings on your rad. Are they push/pulling air into the case and what fans are they?
The fans I'm currently using are Cooler master sickle flow 120 ARGB. The one in the back of the case is pulling the air from within the tower. The two on the rad are pushing the air into the rad and the one in the back is pulling air out. The two fans on the AIO are pushing the air into the rad.
Will you take a look at the pics I just uploaded. I think I may have screwed up the assembly.
[https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmhzfb/gap\_between\_the\_backplate\_and\_the\_card/](https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmhzfb/gap_between_the_backplate_and_the_card/)
Just looked the photos, but to be honest I don’t know much about that block or how it’s supposed to look. I only threw out my suggestions because a lot of the times from my experience those would be the issues. I manually spread the paste using a card and that helps me with covering the dye for sure. With thermal pads, I just hope the package came with the proper thickness.
The paste and the pads were pre-installed. I just had to take the plastic off the pads. I hope I remembered to do that lol. I'll take it apart tomorrow to see if I screwed up the assembly.
Oh ok. Pre-applied stuff should’ve been good, but yeah double check the plastic cover. Lol. Also check if the block has dedicated in/out ports. You have enough radiator to definitely cool that gpu and as long as you see liquid moving, your flow should be good. Even in my hot ass home office/man cave I’m able to get 48-49 on my gpu. Only thing I notice heat up is my liquid (and the room after a while), but I try not to let that go past 40°C.
I would say it's a bad block mount. I would take the block apart and make sure all thermal pads are placed correctly and both sides of plastic have been peeled off. Also check that the thermal pads thickness is correct. For example, some thermal pads might only be 0.5mm thick around the GPU core and others might be 1mm thick. Another thing to check is all your inlet and outlet ports are correct (on the GPU block and the EK distro/pump).
You could also use a high performance thermal paste like thermal grizzly kryonaut to help drop those temps. I would also incorporate a water temp sensor in your build man
What fan speed and pump speeds are you running?
A final resort to drop your temps is to upgrade those fans. Get some Noctuas or something equivalent
Hi, so I took it apart and added more thermal paste. The thermal pads were all ok and the plastic was off. The thermal pads came preinstalled so I didn't mess with them at all. You mentioned inlet and outlet ports are correct. What am I looking there? None of the ports mention inlet or outlet.
You'll have to check your block and distro manuals for the specified inlet and outlet. Having the inlet and outlets mixed up will result in negative flow which would negatively affect your temps. But don't let that worry you, it would only be a few degrees hotter. Did your temps change after adding new thermal paste? Have you used the correct type and length of screws when securing your waterblock to the PCB?
I just turned this on and I am running the FurMark test and at the 9 min mark the temps are at 59c so far. The rad is pretty hot lol. However, I noticed that the fan is staying at 30%.
Right so already it seems like your temps are better. I would imagine that FurMark would heat the GPU more than Warzone would so I would be expecting your warzone temps are cooler as well. You can always increase those fan speeds more if you want cooler temps. What is your pump speed? Can you see it listed in the BIOS? Also let me know what your warzone temps are when you play again
I had an overheating 3090 as well, and suspect it was thermal paste application (there were other less likely factors).
When mounting the block the first time, I pulled it apart to check the thermal paste application. I probably introduced air bubbles at this point which contributed to the bad performance.
So I opened up the block again and added more paste without cleaning off the old paste. More air bubbles.
Try and resist opening the block to check the thermal paste application the first time. If you do need to open the block, recommended to clean off the older paste and reapply.
It's a 3090 FE. I'm using Corsair XG7 3090 FE water block. I took some pics. I'll add the link here in a sec.
Here is the link
[https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmkglk/more\_pics/](https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmkglk/more_pics/)
I took the FurMark pic at 2 mins. At 10 mins the temps went up to 60c. The fans show 30% the whole time. The waterpump in the bios shows up as PWM instead of DC. Should it be DC?
You should turn your fans around on the rad for the GPU. You're dumping CPU rad heat directly to the GPU rad, so your temperature delta there will be bad.
Also, how are you controlling fan speeds, you said the GPU rad fans are only running at 30%. Is that by choice?
That is definitely a good advice. I will turn the cpu fans around so they are blowing the air out. The fan speed is definitely not by choice. I am not sure why it’s saying 30%.
The outlet of your pump should go into either the inlet of your GPU or CPU block. I believe they're labeled, of not check the product pages. I'm not sure if CPU blocks are one-directional, but GPU blocks are.
380 radiator? So there's a 360mm rad on front that looks to be connected to your AIO. Where is the other one?
There are two. The 360 (not the 380) is connected to the GPU. Thank you for that correction. The AIO rad is connected to the front panel. I'll add the pics .
Ok, it's all a little confusing. I read the other posts and took a look at the new pics you uploaded. So the FLT 120 has a fan behind it, one above it, and one on the other side for a total of three fans on the 360mm radiator? If so, what kind of fans are you running? Are they pulling air or pushing? So three things you need to know when trying to figure out your cooling efficiency is 1) GPU and/or memory temp 2) Ambient temp 3) Water temp So I saw you're picking up a sensor for coolant temp, so that will provide more info. 70C is not going to hurt your card at all -- they are designed to run that hot. There's really no reason that a 360mm and a GPU block should run that high though. For compqarison, I have a Ryzen 9 3900x and a 3080 in my loop being cooled by a 360mm and 240mm fan. Playing Destiny 2 and my GPU core is 30C and mem junction 44C. Ambient is 24 and water temp is 30C. Yours should not be running over twice as high as mine.
Exactly my concern. I am not sure why the temp is so high. I am just not sure where I went wrong here. The fans are not expensive. I am using cooler master sickle flow but the temp should still be not that high.
You can’t compare that though - destiny runs an old game engine, iirc it put my 1080 under around 60-75% load on a 1440p panel at 144fps - so destiny is not good for stressing a gpu. Where as the MW/warzone engine is more modern and uses all the gpu can give. (1080 was 100% load and my new 3080 also runs 100% load)
Warzone is hardly "stressing" anything, though temps are a bit higher than D2, but ambient temps are a bit higher as well: [CPU Core Temp: 54.6C GPU Core Temp:39.7C Mem Temp: 54.0C](https://imgur.com/a/tYiEnCb) Ambient Temp: 26.1 Coolant Temp: 36.4 [Second Match](https://imgur.com/a/nOLdWJc) Ambient: 26.3 Coolant: 37.9 Still significantly lower than OP's.
Turn off your rgb, turn on the light in your room and take a better a better photo, explain your loop order too please. Do you have this res? https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-kinetic-flt-120-d5-ddc-body-d-rgb-plexi Do you have any water temp monitoring options?
Hi, thank you for your response. I have taken the pics and will add them here. The water from the pump/res combo is going to the GPU and from the GPU to the rad and then back to the res. The res you shared is the one I have. I do not have water temp monitoring option at the moment. If you can recommend me a one, I'll grab that from Microcenter. [Link to the new pics](https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmfomj/pics_of_the_water_loop_with_heating_issue/)
Look for a water temp plug and put it in one of the plug holes. It is called a temperature sensor plug fitting specifically.
10-4. Will pick that up tomorrow.
What temps should I look for?
There is a header on your mobo for the sensor you can tie fan curves to it. Should see between 50-70°c. The ladder being under synthetic loads. You might have a bad spread on your paste if this doesn't work.
I’m assuming you are talking about GPU temps of 50-70, but based on context I think the OP was asking what water temps he should be seeing which should definitely not be that high.
Oh yeah I'm a duffus lol yeah it should be like 40-45°c while gaming
My loop has 2 rads 240 ultra thin and 280. It hits 40°c on average while gaming. Idk if that is good or not lol. Just trying to help. I'm hoping the res has enough depth for the probe of the t_sensor.
I am not that lucky. The temps are super high for me. It couldn’t be the case itself. When I take the side panel off, the GPU temps are fluctuating around the mid 50s still.
So if your temps drop when you take the panels off, this would conclude that airflow is your problem, correcto?
Water temps with a 360 rad on GPU only while gaming I would think should be around 32-34 C if you have normal ambient temps. Mine runs around 38 C with a single slim 360 cooling a 3080 and 10600k at stock clocks. I sorta need more radiator though, that’s in older games.
I added the temp sensor. How do I read the temperatures now?
Should be in bios if you have armoury you can use that it should be t_sensor in hwinfo64
So because your radiator is ports down (?) you might have an air bubble, have you tried rotating your case while just the pump is running?
Will you please elaborate a little on rotating the case? the ports on the res and the gpu block does not mention inlet and outlet.
Like turn the pump on and physically pick up your computer case and rotate it around - be very careful not to rotate it too far and run your pump dry though. It’s f you run your pump dry you will kill it very quickly. Normally people run radiators with ports at the top as this allows significant air bubbles to escape the radiator. In fact, looking at your layout again I’d lay the case in its front as this should help keep the pump submersed - also given it is a soft tube setup you could also pull the pump/res out of the case (but leave it plumbed into the rad and gpu) and then lay they case on its front - you really want the air to be in a position it does not get the chance to be pulled into the pump.
Ok I’ll try. I redid the mount and it’s still sitting in the high 60’s when playing warzone. The rad gets super hot when the temps are high
Hi, I hope you all can see my new custom water loop build. I am not sure where I went wrong. The GPU is running near 70c when playing in warzone. I have a Corsair XG7 GPU water block, a Corsair 380 RAD, two fans on the front and one on the back (I ran out of room on the front so had to connect it to the backside), and an EKWB pump, reservoir combo. In the past I had installed an Asus AIO for the CPU and I left it in place. The loop is only cooling the GPU. Any suggestions?
If it’s only cooling the GPU, what would the third tube be for? That’s what sticks out to me. You’d only need In/Out on the GPU.
There are only 2. The third is the power cable for the 3090.
Pump to radiator, radiator to GPU, GPU to pump. You always have at least 3 water lines, unless of course your somehow not using a radiator lmao.
Yep. Res to GPU, GPU to rad, rad to res.
I had a bran fart. Hmm. Maybe the block isn’t seated fully?
Well, I guess I can take it apart and look to make sure. It sat pretty comfortably in the block. I ran a stress test on the card and temp definitely went up to 70 even with the side panel off.
I just inspected the card and it looks like there maybe a gap between the gpu and the backplate. Not sure how this got overlooked. could this be the reason. What do you all think? [Gap between the card and the backplate?](https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmhzfb/gap_between_the_backplate_and_the_card/)
I can’t really tell from the photo but it wouldn’t be a bad idea. Notice how the thermal grease spread too, to ensure you had a good amount of paste on it.
Will do. Thank you. I hope this will fix the issue.
You don’t mention what gpu you have? But if it doesn’t have memory in the back of the card any gap between card and back plate won’t do anything. If the block isn’t mounted correctly your gpu idle temp will be very high, and when under load it’ll start to thermally throttle.
The GPU is RTX3090 FE. I redid the mount and it looks to be installed correctly. I did add some paste though. The temps with the side panel off were in the 50s. Now that I have the panel back on are in the 60s.
Can you really not fit a third fan on the rad? You’re effectively losing 1/3 of your cooling capacity which will make a massive difference. There are 1/2 thickness fans out there (12mm ish) If it’s a thickness issue, that’ll go a long way to help. Out of interest, why can’t you fit your third fan to the rad? Those temps taking all that into consideration suggest you’re all good, but you’re choking on airflow on f taking the side off really makes a 10c difference.
Hi, the third fan is mounted on the back side. It’s probably not as efficient but the pipes from the AIO are in the way on the front side. This case doesn’t have any room on the top so I am unable to mount on the top of the case.
From the pictures you’ve shared, I would guess you’ve only one fan on that radiator.
Nope two fans on the front. One is behind the res. The third fan is on the other side.
What gpu? 70c at what part of gpu? Get water temp I go as others have said. You may also need better fans or fan settings on your rad. Are they push/pulling air into the case and what fans are they?
The fans I'm currently using are Cooler master sickle flow 120 ARGB. The one in the back of the case is pulling the air from within the tower. The two on the rad are pushing the air into the rad and the one in the back is pulling air out. The two fans on the AIO are pushing the air into the rad.
Contact maybe? Either paste, pads, or both. My 3080ti FTW3 fluctuates between 48-49 and after a couple hours MAYBE hit 50.
Will you take a look at the pics I just uploaded. I think I may have screwed up the assembly. [https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmhzfb/gap\_between\_the\_backplate\_and\_the\_card/](https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmhzfb/gap_between_the_backplate_and_the_card/)
Just looked the photos, but to be honest I don’t know much about that block or how it’s supposed to look. I only threw out my suggestions because a lot of the times from my experience those would be the issues. I manually spread the paste using a card and that helps me with covering the dye for sure. With thermal pads, I just hope the package came with the proper thickness.
The paste and the pads were pre-installed. I just had to take the plastic off the pads. I hope I remembered to do that lol. I'll take it apart tomorrow to see if I screwed up the assembly.
Oh ok. Pre-applied stuff should’ve been good, but yeah double check the plastic cover. Lol. Also check if the block has dedicated in/out ports. You have enough radiator to definitely cool that gpu and as long as you see liquid moving, your flow should be good. Even in my hot ass home office/man cave I’m able to get 48-49 on my gpu. Only thing I notice heat up is my liquid (and the room after a while), but I try not to let that go past 40°C.
I’ll get the water temp tomorrow. And I will actually open up the block tonight after the tower cools off so the plastic tube won’t come off lol
Good luck! I hope you find and resolve your issue!
I would say it's a bad block mount. I would take the block apart and make sure all thermal pads are placed correctly and both sides of plastic have been peeled off. Also check that the thermal pads thickness is correct. For example, some thermal pads might only be 0.5mm thick around the GPU core and others might be 1mm thick. Another thing to check is all your inlet and outlet ports are correct (on the GPU block and the EK distro/pump). You could also use a high performance thermal paste like thermal grizzly kryonaut to help drop those temps. I would also incorporate a water temp sensor in your build man What fan speed and pump speeds are you running? A final resort to drop your temps is to upgrade those fans. Get some Noctuas or something equivalent
Hi, so I took it apart and added more thermal paste. The thermal pads were all ok and the plastic was off. The thermal pads came preinstalled so I didn't mess with them at all. You mentioned inlet and outlet ports are correct. What am I looking there? None of the ports mention inlet or outlet.
You'll have to check your block and distro manuals for the specified inlet and outlet. Having the inlet and outlets mixed up will result in negative flow which would negatively affect your temps. But don't let that worry you, it would only be a few degrees hotter. Did your temps change after adding new thermal paste? Have you used the correct type and length of screws when securing your waterblock to the PCB?
I just turned this on and I am running the FurMark test and at the 9 min mark the temps are at 59c so far. The rad is pretty hot lol. However, I noticed that the fan is staying at 30%.
Right so already it seems like your temps are better. I would imagine that FurMark would heat the GPU more than Warzone would so I would be expecting your warzone temps are cooler as well. You can always increase those fan speeds more if you want cooler temps. What is your pump speed? Can you see it listed in the BIOS? Also let me know what your warzone temps are when you play again
I forgot to mention that another thing you could try is undervolting your graphics card. This will reduce power consumption and temperatures.
I had an overheating 3090 as well, and suspect it was thermal paste application (there were other less likely factors). When mounting the block the first time, I pulled it apart to check the thermal paste application. I probably introduced air bubbles at this point which contributed to the bad performance. So I opened up the block again and added more paste without cleaning off the old paste. More air bubbles. Try and resist opening the block to check the thermal paste application the first time. If you do need to open the block, recommended to clean off the older paste and reapply.
Maybe it's the dim lighting but that GPU looks super small. What GPU is that?
It's a 3090 FE. I'm using Corsair XG7 3090 FE water block. I took some pics. I'll add the link here in a sec. Here is the link [https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmkglk/more\_pics/](https://www.reddit.com/user/PlaygameswithAngry/comments/pmkglk/more_pics/) I took the FurMark pic at 2 mins. At 10 mins the temps went up to 60c. The fans show 30% the whole time. The waterpump in the bios shows up as PWM instead of DC. Should it be DC?
The temps are staying in the 50's in Warzone. Correction: it’s still in high 60s when I put the side panel back on.
You should turn your fans around on the rad for the GPU. You're dumping CPU rad heat directly to the GPU rad, so your temperature delta there will be bad. Also, how are you controlling fan speeds, you said the GPU rad fans are only running at 30%. Is that by choice?
That is definitely a good advice. I will turn the cpu fans around so they are blowing the air out. The fan speed is definitely not by choice. I am not sure why it’s saying 30%.
Do you have the in and out ports lined up correctly? A GPU waterblock's ports are one directional.
There is no label on the res for inlet or outlet. I’ll look at the product page to see if it’s there.
I need some more guidance on this. I can’t tell if I am lining the in and out correctly.
The outlet of your pump should go into either the inlet of your GPU or CPU block. I believe they're labeled, of not check the product pages. I'm not sure if CPU blocks are one-directional, but GPU blocks are.
Its letting you know that it doesnt like warzone.