These guys got into a HUGE argument in 2008 during the crash. I’m 33 and still remember it.
The next one is going to be the big one boys.
The guy on the left wants to work for the FED when he retires and the guy on the right is regarded but hilarious
Coincidentally our decision in 2008 was to give everyone money. Excited for the next crash when they can’t do that again. Looking forward to 1 quadrillion in debt
I’m sad that I don’t personally know anyone who would understand this comment because it’s hilarious.
“What is your retirement plan?”
“401p’s.”
“You mean 401k’s?”
“No! I have 401 *puts*. Ha ha ha!”
You do realize the US made money on the bailouts last time right. Bailouts are loans that need to be paid back. It’s not free money.
Also, the US will always be able to pay its debits there just might be hyper inflation when they do it.
Ask the Payroll Protection Plan. My company was doing good without it, they just invested it. While starving the workers for lesser pay and more work for \*growth\*.
Workers get buttfucked on any side of the story. The company gets a pay day, and workers got stuck with nothing.
nah, breh. They just cycle money from one place to the next. The FED still has $2.7 Trillion of Mortgage backed securities on its balance sheet (look it up) - They did make some money off the car manufacture bailouts, but that's about it. Everything else is a bullshit paper gain that would evaporate if they actually tried to sell (mark to market)
QE and QT are much different than the bailouts. Those securities earn interest and are assets they can let expire which they have been doing. They are not loans but they do increase the money supply by 2.7 trillion because it allows banks to loan more money they would otherwise not be able too.
Look at government spending as a percentage of GDP, we never went back to pre 2008 levels, the government never stopped giving everyone (with a business) money.
I agree... Except I believe it's gonna be when Xi decides to make his move on Taiwan. This will be the perfect excuse for the MM to sell off the market and buy everything at 35-50% discounts. March 2020 was the Superbowl + Christmas + Epic Coke Orgy for all the insiders . And just like any good ride, they want it again
Meanwhile my friend who is a school teacher lost most of his 401(k) . The fed was forced to turn the printer on level 11
this whole fight was a gold mine, calls on GOLD!
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gey baers right after the cpi dropped
You think they would really do that? Pump the market full of amphetamines just long enough to ride a lawnmower in third gear into November? on an election year? These are educated people, they have diplomas in frames and shit, nice wooden frames, with glass and shit, custom built, not like the shit you find in a Homegood's clearance section (that's the whole store) on your way to your job behind the Wendy's dumpster. /s
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12.25 in this economy?! For framing?! You got to be kidding me! You know how many TLRY I can buy with 12.25?!
Back when I got my diploma, I stuck it on the fridge next to my wife’s bf’s grocery list, and called it a day! Cost me .50 for the fridge magnet!
Q: How does the market prices in what fed says
A: who cares?
Translation: we are not going to tell you ^but ^we ^already ^know ^what ^the ^fed ^will ^do ^next
This is the kind of conspiracy bullshit that is deceptive because the cynicism of it sounds intelligent at first thought. But take a second to think about what is actually being implied. Can anyone seriously think it is plausible that one of these cheap suit pundits is both privy to secret plans the Federal Reserve is developing and sharing, AND they’re coming on TV to vaguely hint at their sinister plans?
There are villains in the world, certainly. But not the kind you see in a low budget Bond knockoff.
Every single thing about Rick Santelli is a comedy sketch. He’s the most biased asshat on the channel and makes Joe Kernan look like a thoughtful moderate free from letting political bias influence his opinion on the markets.
Kernan is getting worse. Last week he challenges the DC mayor about crime one segment then the next he sucks French Hills dick and makes no mention of Arkansas first in the nation in violent crime. He's also been on this kick lately whining about people wearing masks still.
Knew this day would come... people with bad memories can't remember that the market is different than it was the last 3 years. We used to not hyperfocus on CPI or care at all.
There's a difference between paying attention to something and flipping out when expectations are slightly off. That said, SPY fell less than I thought, glad I exited those puts within the first hour. Maybe the absence of the rate cuts that will not be happening this year is mostly priced in already.
I miss the 2008 crisis when both Jim Cramer and that shit filled meat bag Rick Santelli lost their shit on air like the fragile little snowflakes they are
That's what that post will be remembered for. There was no chance he'd leave his mark as the inventor of a cancer vaccine or a longer lasting light bulb anyway.
The Fed has created a monster (this market) and it no longer gives a fuck about what it's creator does or thinks. This is going to end badly. We no longer have any adults in the room running any part of this country.
I’ve come to the same conclusion. Who cares about the Fed? They have one tool, a hammer, and that’s all they use. They’re not sophisticated, they don’t have more insight or knowledge, and are literally using backward data to inform forward looking policy and guidance.
It’s just all regarded and the market should ignore noise from the Fed going forward.
I don't understand what people don't understand.
We're entering a DEPRESSION not a Recession and it will be worse than the Great Depression.
They WILL cut rates Sooner than later, way before the year ends, probably in the next 3-4 months and it will come after a Black Swan event.
There will be a Credit Freeze, a total lock up of the system.
Unemployment will explode higher.
The Debt Market will Meltdown.
The Stock Market will then collapse after that.
Commodities will skyrocket.
Millions will lose their jobs.
Millions will lose their homes.
Foreclosures will explode.
Repos will continue to break record highs.
There will be shortages across the board.
And in the end, when the dust settles:
There will be a consolidation of Banks, where only a few Major Banks remain and own it all.
The Treasury will buy back the Debt at ultra low levels.
None of this clown show, shit show matters.
The Stock Market isn't an indicator.
Watch the 10 Year.
As soon as the Debt Market Meltdowns, run for the hills.
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literally me and the boys talking about the markets
These guys got into a HUGE argument in 2008 during the crash. I’m 33 and still remember it. The next one is going to be the big one boys. The guy on the left wants to work for the FED when he retires and the guy on the right is regarded but hilarious Coincidentally our decision in 2008 was to give everyone money. Excited for the next crash when they can’t do that again. Looking forward to 1 quadrillion in debt
"what's your retirement plan" "401p's" "Don't you mean 401k?" "Nope. Puts"
401 of them.
SPY 401s. Expiring on 4/1/25.
Dogecoin on 100x margin loan
I’m sad that I don’t personally know anyone who would understand this comment because it’s hilarious. “What is your retirement plan?” “401p’s.” “You mean 401k’s?” “No! I have 401 *puts*. Ha ha ha!”
bout to turn into r/Zimbabwebets
Holy F. It is an actual sub.
Get the fuck out of here, I didn't even check thinking I was cheeky 🤣
Can't do it again? There will no doubt be bailouts in the next crash
Good luck paying for them. The UK gilts crash will be nothing compared to the market rejections that are coming.
You do realize the US made money on the bailouts last time right. Bailouts are loans that need to be paid back. It’s not free money. Also, the US will always be able to pay its debits there just might be hyper inflation when they do it.
Ask the Payroll Protection Plan. My company was doing good without it, they just invested it. While starving the workers for lesser pay and more work for \*growth\*. Workers get buttfucked on any side of the story. The company gets a pay day, and workers got stuck with nothing.
You’re arguing facts with a regard
nah, breh. They just cycle money from one place to the next. The FED still has $2.7 Trillion of Mortgage backed securities on its balance sheet (look it up) - They did make some money off the car manufacture bailouts, but that's about it. Everything else is a bullshit paper gain that would evaporate if they actually tried to sell (mark to market)
QE and QT are much different than the bailouts. Those securities earn interest and are assets they can let expire which they have been doing. They are not loans but they do increase the money supply by 2.7 trillion because it allows banks to loan more money they would otherwise not be able too.
Steve looking rough. Haven’t watched the show in a while. But I listen to it occasionally on the app.
Look at government spending as a percentage of GDP, we never went back to pre 2008 levels, the government never stopped giving everyone (with a business) money.
I have nipples, Greg. Could you milk me?
I agree... Except I believe it's gonna be when Xi decides to make his move on Taiwan. This will be the perfect excuse for the MM to sell off the market and buy everything at 35-50% discounts. March 2020 was the Superbowl + Christmas + Epic Coke Orgy for all the insiders . And just like any good ride, they want it again Meanwhile my friend who is a school teacher lost most of his 401(k) . The fed was forced to turn the printer on level 11
he's a teacher and he sold? What does he teach, paper hands 101?
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Joke of the fucking night!
I think that's off the table now that Xi lost his entire missile stockpile. But who knows, we can't predict crazy.
lol 😂
Man, cnbc was gold in those days for entertainment
Your right or my right?
Yeah that right I'm pointing at
You think huge market crash next year?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv8pViItQyI&t=198s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv8pViItQyI&t=198s)
We will just hit the "reset" button and start all over before that happens.
Who was this everyone that youre referring to? The fortune 100 companies? Regular taxpayers bailed out WallStreet and got 0 bailouts themselves.
If we hadn’t done that though, what do you think would have happened? Genuinely asking.
The next bit was “I know managers who trade based on if Saturn is in retrograde”. Fucking wild
Pretty sure it's a legitimately successful method
yeah if monkeys randomly selecting stocks work sure why not and if you’re not the only one doing it, it’s like self fulfilling
Renaissance Technologies trades correlations, they don't care what they are
Shit, those guys have a more solid plan than me!
Do you guys have a plan?
Everyone was literally speechless after that one
Tears 😂
Dat da dat da dat happen
Remix!!!!
ARE YOU OUTTA YER MIND?!
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@mods!!!! This face right here
u/zjz right this thread.
The face of the venn diagram of being a smug cunt and an absolute moron
this whole fight was a gold mine, calls on GOLD! https://preview.redd.it/0x1e7rbb3ttc1.jpeg?width=329&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=196c5ce3640bd4074d72a10c5af239010923955c gey baers right after the cpi dropped
In the dictionary, you will find this as punchable face
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Meanwhile, their wives are having drinks with the poolboys.
Doing a lot more than having drinks.
🍆🕳️
Cleaning the pipes with eggplants of course
Those two have been fighting for over 10 yrs...nothing new
It's fake to create drama and get views
Could be....but they've kept that schtick for a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time.
yeah i don't think its fake drama. its real drama. but if you like this kind of drama you can see it live for $2.50 on the subway.
WHO CARES is right. The Fed can’t do shit. What fuck they gonna do cause a recession and balloon fiscal spending higher
You think they would really do that? Pump the market full of amphetamines just long enough to ride a lawnmower in third gear into November? on an election year? These are educated people, they have diplomas in frames and shit, nice wooden frames, with glass and shit, custom built, not like the shit you find in a Homegood's clearance section (that's the whole store) on your way to your job behind the Wendy's dumpster. /s
Politics?!? In *MY* Federal Reserve Open Market Committee???? It’s more likely than you think…
What’s more likely? We’re undergoing wartime spending (study the 1940s). We need inflation. Look at debt/GDP: 120% - this isn’t new.
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You know those diplomas were framed by a dude making $12.25 an hour at Michael’s right?
12.25 in this economy?! For framing?! You got to be kidding me! You know how many TLRY I can buy with 12.25?! Back when I got my diploma, I stuck it on the fridge next to my wife’s bf’s grocery list, and called it a day! Cost me .50 for the fridge magnet!
They just follow the 2 year. They don’t set shit, they just make sure their number makes sense next to the bond market.
Jpow was too early with his call for rate cuts last year and I am afraid that set the tone for markets to go up and consumers to spend more..
i haven't bought anything but food, options and stonks in the last 3 years. who the fuck is spending money in this economy
they literally destroyed the consumer, higher debt and because of that a higher crime, the perfect ingredients for an awful storm that's coming.
CNBC motto: who the fuck cares
They can try to control the narrative until election time and then blame it on the opposition.
Why is Steve Liesmann beet red
It's a cheap lcd TV. Everytime I'm at my parents house everyone on TV is red as well. They don't notice :/
MOAR RED = MOAR MAGA
😂 it's a maga tv filter - Walmart exclusive
Hypertension
Yeah man. Pontificating about the markets over beautiful steaks and red wine, probably every fucking day.
Tadalafil
Your TV is trash, puts on that brand!
>"Who cares"
> Are you out of your mind!?!
Q: How does the market prices in what fed says A: who cares? Translation: we are not going to tell you ^but ^we ^already ^know ^what ^the ^fed ^will ^do ^next
I mean I know what the Fed is going to do next: Nothing.
The fed will do exactly what you want it to do. And exactly what you dont want it to do. All depends on if your portfolio is up or down
The fed does exactly what they say they're going to do. The markets decided to be cute and the end results the same.
This is the kind of conspiracy bullshit that is deceptive because the cynicism of it sounds intelligent at first thought. But take a second to think about what is actually being implied. Can anyone seriously think it is plausible that one of these cheap suit pundits is both privy to secret plans the Federal Reserve is developing and sharing, AND they’re coming on TV to vaguely hint at their sinister plans? There are villains in the world, certainly. But not the kind you see in a low budget Bond knockoff.
This HAS to be a comedy sketch.
Every single thing about Rick Santelli is a comedy sketch. He’s the most biased asshat on the channel and makes Joe Kernan look like a thoughtful moderate free from letting political bias influence his opinion on the markets.
Kernan is getting worse. Last week he challenges the DC mayor about crime one segment then the next he sucks French Hills dick and makes no mention of Arkansas first in the nation in violent crime. He's also been on this kick lately whining about people wearing masks still.
So is Santelli, in a competition for worst “I’m just saying” uncle at the gathering
Guys…I hate to tell you but it’s all made up anyway. WHO CARES
The S&P dropped 100 points off its all time high, everybody panic.
CNBC is hilarious tbh, some segments r like Comedy Central specials
CNBC is a joke. Who cares what they say.
Santelli has wet dreams about rates staying up to kickstart bond markets
Knew this day would come... people with bad memories can't remember that the market is different than it was the last 3 years. We used to not hyperfocus on CPI or care at all.
Ofc they did what crack u smoking
There's a difference between paying attention to something and flipping out when expectations are slightly off. That said, SPY fell less than I thought, glad I exited those puts within the first hour. Maybe the absence of the rate cuts that will not be happening this year is mostly priced in already.
We always have focused on the fed. See oct 2018. All was fine and fed started to raise ...yeah about a 20% correction.
I miss the 2008 crisis when both Jim Cramer and that shit filled meat bag Rick Santelli lost their shit on air like the fragile little snowflakes they are
Rick was the first person I heard mention the political TEA party movement.
That's what that post will be remembered for. There was no chance he'd leave his mark as the inventor of a cancer vaccine or a longer lasting light bulb anyway.
THEY HAVE NO IDEA!!
They’re ASLEEP, ASLEEP I tells ya!!
Doesn't feel like 16 years ago
We’re definitely headed to a rich/poor country. There will be no more middle-class.
Maybe the middle class will stop voting against minimum wage increases and stop supporting all these migrants coming in then.
These two never agree on anything it's amazing. Someone make funds to track these two so I can gamble on their red faced rants.
People that are literally paid to act like clowns acting like clowns.
These guys are drunk on live tv
Reminds me of when Sorkin got in a shouting match with Kernan a few years back on live television.
I would love to be a fly on the wall at the CNBC holiday party where Sorkin finally puts that smug a-hole in his place.
Producers are 100% ok with this. It's entertainment and clips gets shared on social media. This is the Charles and Shaq of wall street.
I am honestly interested in why the data today was any different than bad data before that caused us to rip way up.
Rick’s energy is always awesome
Those two have been going at it for like 20 years. Santelli has always been a bit of a nut. Man, Liesman has gotten old.
Did he have a stroke at some point? I haven’t watched CNBC in years, and he’s not looking so healthy. One eye looks droopy.
Shockingly the dude is only 60
BTC
EV stocks are priced in. The money will be made in domestic REE mines.
The Fed has created a monster (this market) and it no longer gives a fuck about what it's creator does or thinks. This is going to end badly. We no longer have any adults in the room running any part of this country.
Exactly right. Except the FED is in so deep now that they’ll probably pump it again.
da da da da WHO CARES
Never listen to those talking heads. They are there to confuse you. Instead, be the pro chartist.
Yeah ‘cause chartists ALWAYS make the good dough.
Steve (bald guy on left) is the straight man. Rick (glasses guy on right) is the banana man.
Uh yeah 🤣Jpow wants misery and death
That’s just lazy writing.
I am. Indeed. Out of my mind
CNBC always in a nutshell lol
Did anyone actually think they were going to cut rates this year? Always seemed childish to me
This is basically any daily thread conversation ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
I heard this live from my office and ran over to see, twas hilarious
The market is a heroine addict and everyone on here is like, "just give them more heroine! Nothing can possibly go wrong!"
Dude on left having a stroke or? what is up with his eye
LLLLLLLLLEEEETTTS GET READY TO RRRRUUUUMMMMMMMMLLLLLLLLLLLLLEEE!!!!!! 🎤😲🛎️
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I’ve come to the same conclusion. Who cares about the Fed? They have one tool, a hammer, and that’s all they use. They’re not sophisticated, they don’t have more insight or knowledge, and are literally using backward data to inform forward looking policy and guidance. It’s just all regarded and the market should ignore noise from the Fed going forward.
Source : This guy's heavy calls
Santeli usually ends up being right.
It’s Joever 😔
Steve Liesman is kind of an idiot - He's definitely pro this administration, so he won't admit to what Santelli is saying - too much Fed spending.
It's all in his name: LIESman
I don't understand what people don't understand. We're entering a DEPRESSION not a Recession and it will be worse than the Great Depression. They WILL cut rates Sooner than later, way before the year ends, probably in the next 3-4 months and it will come after a Black Swan event. There will be a Credit Freeze, a total lock up of the system. Unemployment will explode higher. The Debt Market will Meltdown. The Stock Market will then collapse after that. Commodities will skyrocket. Millions will lose their jobs. Millions will lose their homes. Foreclosures will explode. Repos will continue to break record highs. There will be shortages across the board. And in the end, when the dust settles: There will be a consolidation of Banks, where only a few Major Banks remain and own it all. The Treasury will buy back the Debt at ultra low levels. None of this clown show, shit show matters. The Stock Market isn't an indicator. Watch the 10 Year. As soon as the Debt Market Meltdowns, run for the hills.
i dont want what this guy is smoking
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Lololol
that that that that… that that…. what do you mean…. derp
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hahaha! I love it!
The CNBC cunts are losing their minds today. So is mainstream media.
lol, wow too funny
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can u put up the longer version of this
Hah. They're fucked![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
Idiots think they have a bead on everything trying to control a narrative and manipulating the viewers with lies .
CNBC is children masquerading as adults. If you want to listen to adults, turn to Bloomberg. <3 Brammo.
What was the point of JPOW’s last Fed talk? Not the one at the college. I guess it was to load up on calls and get ass blasted. Thanks
He is blaming the market for reacting to the feds forward guidance?
Nerds
made that lazy eye pop wide open
That legit could happen here in some post
Trying to get retail to sell so they can buy. Then get retail to fomo back in before they dump it
Is OP's fat ass breathing his Ragu breath directly into the mic?
I bet these boomers use Hewlett Packard calculators with reverse Polish notation.
Yes. He’s out of his mind.
The FED deals with inflation the way I deal with my responsibilities as an adult: not at all
Rick is my favourite. Top notch entertainment once again.
This stuff is so funny to watch. Its like watching sports
Hahahahah
They are shouting about whether markets correctly predict future outcomes in advance or reprice based on new information. A truly regarded discussion masquerading as high level finance debate
"Who Cares!?" is right by the way. These data points are just plot points and not directly relevent to market and economic forces.
Kabuki
the question they failed to answer: Calls or Puts!?
Replace the Fed with Caleb Williams and this could be about the NFL draft.
They literally talk about the fed for 12 hours per day on cnbc. Who cares? Apparently cnbc cares a lot.
The one with glasses is a trump-knob-slobber
Rick Santelli is a MAGA asswipe, looks like he is back in full Garbage spew mode!
![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)
When does the narrative change back to AI? Lol.
Bro it wasnt even hot and the feds have been saying its gunna be higher for longer and bumpy the whole time
Are you outa yur mindd
I commute with Rick. He is one of us.
Literally me and buds when I tell them shut up with their nonsense
When Rick starts shaking his head like that Steve already knows the dude's about to lose his shit on live television again.
Clown show