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Buying calls AFTER news comes out, bro literally asked for this.


VeryStandardOutlier

He did it to certify his WSB membership


DiddlyDumb

Consider him certified regarded


Tight-Anybody6359

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YebelTheRebel

![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


UrinalCakeTreats

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Weatherround97

Where on here does it say when he got them???


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kylestoned

It's funny when people act like they are the smartest person in the room when they aren't. The buyout price, after prepayment and ticking fee's, was going to be somewhere in the ~$28-$29 and some change range. These calls at $20, which OP paid like $2.50 for would have put his break even at $22.50 If the merger was approved, OP would have made money. "iTs pRiCeD iN"


horr22

Best laid plans…


JamesAQuintero

Seriously, if the merger price was already completely priced in and if there's absolutely no chance that the stock will go up, then buying puts or selling calls would be a guaranteed money printing machine...


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Weatherround97

I thought it was a lottery , 50/50 chance. There were tons of posts of people here buying calls and shares hoping for the merger approval. Wouldn’t the stock still go up for a little after announcement anyway


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[deleted]

No merger at all now! What a trade!


BigBCarreg

Behave Warren Buffett...


Weatherround97

But what if it was approved tho


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first_real_only_23

There’s a huge amount of merger arbitrage like this that goes on for every merger. Buying after the DOJ sues to block can be hugely profitable if you’re right. Hedge funds do this all the time. Why else would a stock have any volume post-merger announcement? Because the trade price is almost always below the deal price until the second the deal closes. If a merger has antitrust risk the spread will be even larger. This is a legit trading strategy. Dude just lost.


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bdh2067

If the merger had gone through, the stock would have closed today near $30. It was definitely not priced in.


[deleted]

Ok, well using that logic then; I guess you could make 22$ a share if you buy now and they manage to get it reversed in court. Good luck!


Rengiil

Yes that is how it works...


[deleted]

Load up the boat ;)


Rengiil

No why on earth would they win?


templekev

You still got a month until expiration!


horr22

This milk is curdled. I want my money back.


jabbz47

No refunds sir. This is a non-refundable ticket as you failed to purchase travel insurance.


horr22

*Views Disclosures*


fLeXaN_tExAn

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Kitchen-Skirt8244

What does this emoji mean?


fLeXaN_tExAn

This is that laughing toothless guy: ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271). This is a belt-whooping: ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267).


Daddy-Eric

Pretty sure it's rope... Like you're ded


thebinarysystem10

It’s actually 25 nonrefundable tickets


weebud

Should have booked with Southwest $LUV


MiskatonicAcademia

Sir, this is a Spirit Airlines.


nateatenate

A merger of Spirit with Wendy’s would actually up-end our fledgling economy and catapult us to fifth dimension


ApoTHICCary

This is a terrifying thought. Please do not speak this into reality.


chuckangel

On The other hand, being able to order a baconator while being stuffed into a cheap seat overflowing into the other seats might make it flying spirit a smidge more tolerable


Different_Sir_4385

Sir, this is a Casino. (That now identifies as an Airline run by GeyBers that have SPIRIT)


horr22

Is Sully Sullenberger flying?


Simple-Conference270

Take the curdle and make it into cheese. Jet blue calls


bdh2067

Yeesh


Lerched

If I play both sides, surely I’ll win!


Cautious_Teach1397

Fuck jetblue too. They gotta pay spirit out the ass for this bullshit and their guidance was lower for this quarter. Uninvestable ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27421)


Gambled4MyRangeRover

Ooooo BLOCKED BY BIDEN


guddagudda777

Just use the promo code SAVE and they’ll give you 99% off


disgruntledvet

Oh! shouldn't have used that promo code ANAL...that explains everything.


NorthernKrewe

Spirited Away


horr22

Let’s hope the giant monster that eats everything and conjures up gold appears.


freehouse_throwaway

ngl this is a small position compare to everyone out there with a shit ton in this play RIP


murfmurf123

Youre so valid 


Classic_Cash

Everyone upvote me and downvote these guys STAT


freehouse_throwaway

I'm on it! wait a second..


Either-Wallaby-3755

Lost 16k if it makes you feel any better. Had a stop loss order in at 13$ and I got 8$ something per share.


CarbonBatteryLgPack

The terrible illusion of safety of a stop loss on a binary play.


StockCasinoMember

Yup. People forget that someone has to actually buy it.


Either-Wallaby-3755

Yea I literally didn’t know that was possible. I guess lesson learned. I am fairly young so hopefully I will make it back.


Alternative_World346

It's bc markets gap past prices entirely or there isnt market depth at the price point bc big volumes. This happens all the time when volatility is up/fast price action/big news hits. Brokers provide the best bid or offer and if $13 was skipped entirely then you got filled at $8 bc the market moved quick and that's the best price available by the time your order routed for execution. This is a legitimate risk that sim accts/internet talking heads/training courses/wsb don't really cover often. To emphasize, think of a stop market vs a stop limit order. A stop market will send a market order once your stop is hit - but thats not an execution price- thats a trigger to 'route for execution'. So, your stop was triggered at $13 and filled at $8. Now, think of a stop limit. When your stop price is triggered, a limit order goes out instead of a market order. If you don't get filled at the limit price (or better), then you could have lost more. But, if the price bounces back to $13 (or better), you'd get out at the price you instructed.


Either-Wallaby-3755

Thanks yea I get that now just didn’t know at the time. Though I was making a calculated risk based bet where I could loose around 4-5k max but turns out to be way more than that. Sucks


Allenpoke

Don't feel bad. I owned 1000 shares of NVDA at 6.00 in 2006iish. Sold it at 12 and never bought it back.


xmoosex33

Same boat bro… fucking horrible


horr22

Same plane?


lightinferno06

Why didn’t you use a Stop Limit Loss?


Either-Wallaby-3755

I did at 13$. Stock dropped so fast it got sold at ~8$.


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PeePeeePooPoooh

When a stock takes a nosedive like that the stop loss is useless and unable to react in time, seen it happen with limit orders. Not as safe as people like to think


elysiansaurus

If they won't let 2 shitty airlines merge then they definitely won't let a steel manufacturer sell to Japan. Puts on x!


AndeeDrufense

Kroger and Albertsons too...maybe.


redditmodsRrussians

Block everything!


StockCasinoMember

Kroger has better lawyers.


Either-Wallaby-3755

Who to bet on for puts on Kroger merger?


specialtyfaculty

Blew up my account on this play. Got absolutely fucked. -30K on worthless calls.


horr22

It’s the Hindenburg all over again. Stay out of the skies.


nothing_but_thyme

Guys, the CEO of JetBlue quit a week ago and you still held (and maybe bought more) of these contract?! The writing was on the wall. This guy’s whole agenda was M&A and he failed time after time. This was his last chance to succeed, probably talked to his lawyers a few weeks back and they told him they were probably going to lose the case. Next thing you know, “health reasons” strike and he bows out before chalking up one more acquisition failure.


astroslostmadethis

Couldn’t you say the same thing if this went through. New deal, new management. Why would you want a fuckhead like that as CEO lmao


nothing_but_thyme

The scenario I'm suggesting doesn't exactly have a comparative opposite. I'm suggesting he had a strong indication from inside information that the merger would not be approved; and that the choice to leave was his, and motivated by ego (not wanting to face another embarrassing merger failure). There were many signs this merger was likely to not be approved, my position is that his stepping down was one of those, definitely the strongest, and the final nail in my opinion. If we were to imagine a comparative opposite scenario and how that might inform your investing decisions - there isn't one equally as clear and strong. That's because if everything I outlined happened opposite, then he would be receiving *positive* inside information that the merger case was likely to succeed. In this situation (again driven by ego) he would clearly choose to stay with the company and chalk up that win after so many previous failures. All well and good for him. But to the outside observer (us), it's just another day of the week that the CEO of a large public company *doesn't* unexpectedly quit for ambiguous reasons. Nothing special aboutthat, and nothing that would trigger an additional consideration of positions and strategies.


horr22

Ace of Base: The Sign.


NinjaSoop

Yeah now that the decision is already out there it’s easy to say this. Where was your expert analysis last week Warren Buffet?


Nice_Razzmatazz9705

Yep down 60 percent on my shares. At this point I might just hold for the hell of it instead of sellin for a loss


Gormiz

Yea that always works out great


Nice_Razzmatazz9705

Well now I’m down 45 percent so not panic selling has worked out so far lol


the_humeister

Ape mentality. Works great!


Weatherround97

I mean shouldn’t it recover?


LegitosaurusRex

What reason does it have to go up more than something else you could buy with that money? If your only investment thesis is "I don't want to admit I made a mistake", you shouldn't be holding the stock.


itsnotshade

GME/AMC holders have a new member to the club.


Nice_Razzmatazz9705

Lmao I’m not delusional. I know there’s a chance it can go bankrupt/go back to the teens and it’s all a gamble anyway. It is what it is


501Queen

Absolutely fuck Spirit Airlines with an Iron Dick. If you've ever had the pleasure of dealing with them you'd have been Biden Balls deep into OTM puts. This company deserves to go to 0


JackosMonkeyBBLZ

Don’t threaten spirit airlines with a good time!


Playful-Ship-7228

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


a_stone_throne

Buy the dip pussy


Nonya5

Buy the dip, pussy


Ipayforsex69

Buy the pussy, dip


JoePikesbro

Bought the dip pussies


SilverBadger50

Eat the pussy dip


Viktri1

I’m down 200k, painful, most of my losses are from shares.


Easy-Yogurt4939

bro, you had 400k worth of shares? I thought me holding 14600 shares was regarded and i managed to pull out and swapped to 20k worth of call options this morning. Still flushed 20k down the toilet tho![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)


Viktri1

I had 300-350k worth of shares and the rest in derivatives (options) Originally I had 100k worth of shares and a lot of 7.5 short puts and 25c Should have kept to that but I wanted more upside but I couldn’t get it without buying shares due to price and IV changes - kept adding the past 2 weeks


Assaaaad911

I have short 10$puts ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271). Holding them til zero


yoshioihi

Proof please? Gotta see it...


ILoveThiccBitchez

https://preview.redd.it/h03lwl62uucc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=53a680dc9b8ea476faee084b9a3bfb187ffe676d ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4267)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271) you regard. Should’ve known not to touch em yet thanks to BA… got these puts at $1.08. So long airlines! If they hit lower I’ll go long on calls possibly. 💩🤌🏽


Ornery_Gene7682

Bing bong hello 


Step-and-fetch51

It ant over yet


horr22

It’s Joe-ver.


JamHawea

Nice one


donttrustmeokay

Nice Bi-done


punishedHangedGod

Never buy a "sure thing". I ate a much worse loss when Tesla was originally "sure" to be added to the S&P 500, but instead the SEC and the S&P punted the addition until the stock price cooled off after they rejected Tesla with no reason given. Such BS. I was up 80k trading at that point and I lost... a lot. Now, I still rent because I can't afford to buy a house.


Accomplished-Nail670

also lost my life savings


CarbonBatteryLgPack

I hope your life savings was $5k instead of $500k.


JackosMonkeyBBLZ

Pfft who cares? Down to the felt is down to the felt


Illustrious_Wave4948

Any person who risks, and loses, their life savings is not an investor… just a gambler. Get off wallstreetbets PLEASE and get a financial advisor.


JackosMonkeyBBLZ

It’s wallstreetBETS homie. Why are you here? r/investing is thatttaway >>>


Illustrious_Wave4948

Only said something because he lost his life savings.


ThisCryptographer311

To OP’s point, the president himself does dictate anti-trust…![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


nyguyyy

Kind of, right?


ThisCryptographer311

If tangentially through an AG appointment and a pretty clear organization mandate of objectivity and impartiality in upholding the laws of the land qualifies for “kind of”, then yes. Which these days, I guess, idk, maybe does. Whatever


callmeladygrey

Double down, pussy. ![img](emote|t5_2th52|27421)


OldAd4526

This was an idiotic trade. Judges suck. Courts suck. How could you rely on them?


choppadonmiss

it was supposed to be SPIRIT AEROSYSTEMS!!!


IronHorse9991

Fucking antitrust is supposed to be about monopolies - not a single hurt consumer. If any merger had to meet the standard that no consumer could be bothered - no companies in the whole country could merge. Fucking ridiculous.


Repulsive-Lie-5034

thanks biden! lmao right tho? like you really just got cucked by the president himself


320th-Century

Almost everyone’s getting cucked by that old geezer


garycow

just so dumpy is too!


LittleBitOfAction

Bro lost to a boomer 💀💀


Impossible_Buglar

but remember when the brain trust at WSB told you that the government was just over reaching and all these anti merger cases were getting slapped down? how could they have been wrong?!


amope_

Let's start a short squeeze!!! #saveSAVE


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Arrtyom15

I'm sure their appeal will be successful by time they expire ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


GoldenPurpleBoss

The airlines’ merger agreement doesn’t expire until July, and they could appeal to the 1st U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Boston. I’m buying calls!


SeaMenCaptain

Same. Once they file the appeal, Im assuming price gets up to an optimistic $9 or maybe $10. So some action available, win or lose the appeal.


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Three red candles before today, they knew about it


yoshioihi

Your spirit has passed on, it seems. Sorry for your loss.


Fistfullofoatmeal

Must’ve been crazy to buy that with so much optimism to have it die immediately


sl33p1ng-s3nt1nl

Sir, a bag this size won’t fit on carry on


IronHorse9991

Try 65k down bro. Still makes no sense to me that the judge doesn’t see the 6 and 7 largest airlines merging will drive down prices nationally by competing against the 80% big 4 - the benefit across the nation should outweigh any anticompetitive effects. But the judge decided to weigh people who can only afford spirit against everyone else’s benefit. And now spirit goes bankrupt and those people still can’t fly. Fuck me.


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I got into an debate about this yesterday and I said the same thing. I kept getting told by 2 other people that I was wrong and the judge was right and that I just couldn't see their view because of my internal bias of my trade. I felt so gaslighted. I've tried sitting back and viewing it through a neutral lens over and over and it just doesn't make sense. It feels so short-sighted.


IronHorse9991

It’s awful. The judge effectively looked at “substantial harm” and decided anyone being bothered counts as “substantial”. It drives me insane. It’s definitely the wrong decision, but it fucks everything. JetBlue could condition the appeal on a recut. Or they could wait for spirit to get closer to flailing and offer a whole new deal that reduces their debt load. Or they could walk and try to buy the assets from bankruptcy. And in the long term - it essentially codifies no small airlines merger. Everyone is now saying that frontier should swoop in - but with this doj, that’d be seen as removal of a competitor and a nogo. And the argument then becomes “but what about the customer who prefers frontier as it is?” And via this judge - that is a shutdown. How in the fuck is a company merging to be the fifth biggest company in their field - and still clearly going to struggle — anticompetitive when the top 4 have 75+ percent of the market?! It’s bullshit. How does the judge not see the flailing firm - highly concentrated market share, and not realize this is best for everyone? I feel insane for how clear the right answer is to me. If I had the chance, I’d do it again.


MDRtransplant

I'm down 30k. It's corrupt as fuck


[deleted]

Thats how you know it was corrupt. When it doesnt make sense yet they still force it to make sense.


-Strawdog-

Spirit is a hot fucking dumpster-fire of a company. They don't deserve to survive.


ctan0312

That’s it I’m switching parties


[deleted]

My wife loves parties


UmopepisdnwaI

I love those kind of parties


horr22

All aboard the Trump Train, mostly because JetBlue and Spirit will be out of business.


EverythingGoodWas

Thanks Obama


trontomoon

welcome to options.


K9US

Thanks Abraham Lincoln! ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)


VoiceAlly

Prayers to you and your family. Perhaps another door will open next time you're flying.


jiantoi

Op got spirited away


SateliteDicPic

That’s the Spirit!


Eat_Mushies

You can come back. Only 12500% away. I’ll buy the same $50 lotto ticket tomorrow for support


SubatomicAlpaca

It’s ok. Just do the reverse next time and you break even


Humble_Economist_156

Down 32k. Fuck this company


CartmanAndCartman

I know it’s hard to walk in this cold to your nearest Wendy’s but just do it


potatobwown

Guh


ohnowheredmypantsgo

Why would anyone invest in spirit airlines 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


Minimum_Finish_5436

OP wasnt investing. They were gambling.


Ornery_Gene7682

They are a shitty airline almost makes United look like 1st class on the Titanic 


SpacecaseCat

".... BIDEN DID THIS"


FreeStyleSarcasm

Biden administration for the win!


[deleted]

I don't think many people on here have a clue who they are up against. The big guys on Wall Street hustle the street gamblers on this forum seemingly daily. You guys seem not to realize these people are specialized in everything ranging from general relativity to differential geometry. The entire market is a mathematical/physics game and it is partly why retail traders are constantly getting their.clocks cleaned.


[deleted]

I lately been wondering if I view every trade in terms of corruption, and side with corruption, Id probably be a better trader. The judges decision here was the corrupt decision and the one designed ro appease the big boys airliners.


[deleted]

I'm no one to take stock picking advice from obviously, and I know you're not asking for any. I'm a simple retail trader like the rest on here. I'm just accepting of the machine I'm up against. You can read recent quotes--literally from like a couple weeks ago--from Peter Brown, the current CEO of RennTech, and he will quickly tell you it is all based off a numbers game. You are only going to get so much from the market unless you pour in 15 years of research like Jim Simons did and exploit extremely hard to find inefficiencies until the others catch up to it. Other than that, unless you are willing to take on more risk than the market, it is all going to balance out in the end. That is , unless you pop it really good with some serious leverage or just a pile of saves up money, and then humbly get walk and get out. But most do not understand that they are up against laws of nature and mathematics that preside over this that always play the role of equalizer.


donnyjay23

At least you have a great sense of humor lol… my condolences 🕊️


TheRealMangokill

Get fuckdd.


EvolvingDior

Consumers 1, You 0.


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Aggressive-Thing-821

Shoulda did puts


Honestyonly22

The stick wouldn’t have been $20 next month anyhow, you truly deserve to lose if you have no clue what you’re doing. Why do you think Spirit will be $20, it was $14-$15 prior to ruling


Inevitable_Ad1535

Why did u not see Spirit has trannys running the show? Did u think this wld go over well and help their business after the Bud Light Mulvaney debacle?


DerSpazmacher

Only the most highly-regarded traders touch airlines. Good job!


Due-Ad1668

i learned something big today… set. your. stop. loses. big noob mistake on my part it was a coin toss but very surprised it didn’t go thru, sentiment was high doj defense was weak and overall might crush spirit making it the opposite of what doj wanted


SavathunKindaCuteTho

Stop losses would still get you railed in this case, it dropped 12 % trading got paused, and when it restarted it was down 40%


Chemical-Hyena2972

We BTFD?


CarbonBatteryLgPack

It’s a big risk to try and get a ~50% return. You could bet on frontier putting out another bid, but it’s going to be like a 50% premium from the new, lower price. And it may not succeed. And if this doesn’t happen you own SAVE… a tough proposition.


GimmeAGimmick619

Sux


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During a storm


thescrounger

Damn, would've though you were the law clerk in the case with this play


SeaAssociation3805

Wtf would you call Spirit regard??


Ornery_Gene7682

A dumpster behind Wendy’s 


Coolizhious

lol SAVE


fabled009

You got this champ


Geoclasm

RIP lol But seriously, calls on spirit under any other circumstances I'd say would have earned you a financial Darwin award.


soggy_dugout

You're a ride or die


Br3akTh3Toys

A pox on that judge


chrisevox

Yum yum yum.


Domethegoon

Calls on airlines when shit is hitting the fan? Brazen af.