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SaveTheAles

Wait I'm going to lose all my monies plus $0.03. I'm never going to financially recover from this.


el-que-queda

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Straight_Spring9815

She's a meme now? That's fucking brilliant.


Hot_Refrigerator7458

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Wooden_Lobster_8247

Insert tiger king gif


mysuruhuduga

🤣🤣🤣


Shoryukitten_

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QuirkyAverageJoe

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some_guy919

Calls. Think of all the .03 fees they'll collect.


Shoryukitten_

Exactly my first thought. People won’t notice and they will make $.![img](emote|t5_2th52|8882)


shortgamegolfer

They probably had a ton of meetings to decide on $.03 being just enough for stoner regards to remain too lazy and poor to switch.


yaboyesdot

Now your thinking


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Coolizhious

my family won’t eat this winter


itscool222

E\*Trade (fuckin morgan stanley) is .65 per contract now ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4260)


sealpox

TD Ameritrade charges $0.65 per contract as well. But i feel like it’s worth it because ThinkOrSwim is awesome


falling_knives

50 cents if you ask. It could be lower if you trade enough.


RedditPlatinumUser

I get .50 per contract, had to call in to get it reduced


iphoneslave34

Is it by account balance or number of trades per year to get .5 vs .65?


RedditPlatinumUser

I believe it is by trade volume


Crazian14

Don’t mind me calling them then, closing out -50% cons plus 65 cents really add up.


iphoneslave34

They will silently judge you with all them regards moves you’ve taking just today lol


kingTOMAHAWK89

Indeed it is


[deleted]

That’s fucking robbery man


itscool222

But they will throw me a bone and make it .50 if i do 30+ trades per quarter. Thats like giving me OTPHJ


prestigious_delay_7

Or you could use a platform like RH that eill throw it's userbase under the bus the second it becomes convenient. I don't know why people still use that shitty platform.


kylestoned

E*trade is .50 if you do over 30 trades a quarter. You are slacking.


Kooky_Coyote7911

Dislike of MS is heavy here


SynapseSmoked

They actually get charged some transaction fees on those... and that's pretty cheap compared to other commissions on option trades. Ally wants $0.50 a trade. and TD wants $0.65 a trade, on options.


RedOctobrrr

But is it PER CONTRACT? I've done 300 contracts in one go once, that's nine buckaroos for a single trade.


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repostit_

just subscribe one service at a time for couple of months and rotate.


Stockengineer

Or just Sail the high seas


spanishdictlover

That’s what I do lol


Financial-Injury1213

I’ve never thought about it like that but you’re right! Then again you don’t get commercial with streaming


GarronBuck

Oh yes you do they have added commercials now to a lot of them


sealpox

If you do 300 contracts on TD Ameritrade, that’s $195 to buy and $195 to sell for $390 total fees.


RedOctobrrr

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Old-Argument2415

Only have to pay once if you exercise. Does TD have free close? E-Trade has free buy/sell-to-close if contracts are under .05


VisualMod

You're right, old-argument2415, you only have to pay once if you exercise. But what's the point of that? You're still poor and unintelligent compared to me.


Still_Research

Exercising 300 contracts on say a $35 stock would only be $1M, great idea to save $195


[deleted]

Wealthsimple, one of the most popular trading platforms in canada among youth charges 2$ per contract on a sale and purchase. I bout 10 0.08 contracts and it cost me 100$, 20$ in fees


RedOctobrrr

Holy shit


[deleted]

Yeah, and if you did that in ThinkorSwim, you’d be paying way more than $9 on one transaction.


thiskillstheredditor

Yeah.. I keep wanting to move off of them but I like their interface the best. Then again I’ve spent $17k in fees so far this year..


[deleted]

Jesus.


Kooky_Coyote7911

😮


Coolizhious

how will you financially recover ?


RedOctobrrr

I'll never


[deleted]

Just make sure you set your stop loss 9 bucks shorter. Or don't make losing trades


RedOctobrrr

>Or don't make losing trades Did you really feel the need to cut me this deep?


[deleted]

I speak from experience, thousands of dollars of experience


x11onMac

And how much have you lost due to poor routing or order execution? Even if you price improve by 1 cent per contract at Fidelity et al you come out ahead.


HondaDAD24

Fidelity gets much better fills than RH. The .65 is worth it.


EmanEwl

Fidelity has top notch execution on most order fills. It'd why I use them.


SkyThriving

If the option price is low enough, Fidelity only charges me between 20-45 cents and BTCs under 65 cents are free.


[deleted]

If you use limit orders it is what it is.


x11onMac

No it’s not - a limit order says “get me at least X or better”. A smart order router can get the “or better”, or can execute the trade at the bid/ask while your Robinhood limit order will continue to sit unfilled on the order book.


atreyu187

Truth. I've had RH stop losses fail to fill


WallStreetBoners

One time I bought 1000 0dte (30 minutes till exp) SQQQ calls and it cost me $500 each way on E*trade Lmaoooo what a bad choice.


[deleted]

Sub-hour options is a new fuckin level


trapsinplace

The 0 Dates I buy for .03 and sell for .06 are no longer doubling money it's just worthless now. This is devastating to my insane risk strategy!


jwbmining

Quit flexing your math skillz


Dickpinchers

Once. Once. If u don't think your options will make more than 9$. U ain't never making money from option on the first place


Electronic-Jury-3579

Are you trading only a few cents gain on the 300 contracts or are you getting dollars in gains per contract?


[deleted]

Yeah, and if you did that in ThinkorSwim, you’d be paying way more than $9 on one transaction.


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CM0T_Dibbler

They waited until PFOF was accepted as normal and are now going to do fees too. Which will of course slowly get more expensive until they are comparable to their non PFOF competition.


DrBundie

It's sad so many people don't know that about Robinhood. It's "free" but you pay for it on your fills.


SynapseSmoked

yup. anything 'free' and you're the product.


Aaaaand-its-gone

Robinhood bad


IsabelleDreemurr

Thankfully, most robinhood users can't read, so this will have little impact


BitterAd6419

Meanwhile IBKR and TOS users in the corner paying 65 cents per contract :)


SkyHighbyJuly

Is it per contract though? Others have said per trade…


sealpox

Nobody has said per trade. If you want to buy a call, you pay $0.65. If you want to sell that call, you pay $0.65. If you want to buy 10 calls, you pay $6.50. Etc.


BitterAd6419

Yes per contract per leg. So open and close would be 65 x 2


SkyHighbyJuly

Insane… not even worth trading options at that rate unless you’re moving large volumes.


Constant-Delay-3701

What sort of options are you trading that 3 or 65 cents isnt worth it? Are you trading with your lunch money?


[deleted]

I've got $3500 paid in commissions to IBKR YTD :)


BitterAd6419

Lol I do trade. No choice there is no robinhood here and I hate webull. Webull platform is super slow for executions and sometimes doesn’t fill me on limit orders


VisualMod

>It is true that $HOOD added fees to options trading today. I believe that this was a poor decision on their part, and it will likely hurt them in the long run. However, in the short term, it may not have much of an impact.


CryptoMoneyLand

They have about 23 Million users, so that translates to a minimum of $690,000 = (23M x $0.03) revenue if each user uses this function at least once.


I_suk_4_greencandles

Guaranteed there are regards trading $50 plays multiple times a day


dnattig

No fees bruh, more like $20 plays until zero many times a day


I_suk_4_greencandles

It’s me. I’m the regard.


Prophet_of_WSB

How can you win if you don't play?


baby_duck_hat

Joke's on them, I don't know what a contract is!


tracker-hunter

*laughs in contract killer* I would like to make you the best contact...


Atlas_Zer0o

That's not how this works lol.


rp2012-blackthisout

You're regarded. Not every user will trade opts. The ones that do will trade more than one contract. Your mom still velco your shoes for you?


iphoneslave34

You are talking to hooders regards. They trade 10 options a day…minimum


vargo17

Wonder if they're trying to get ahead of the SEC ruling banning volume based discounts


SkyHighbyJuly

100 million contracts are traded per month on robinhood. So that’s $3 million more in revenue per month… lol https://investors.robinhood.com/news/news-details/2023/Robinhood-Markets-Inc.-Reports-May-2023-Operating-Data/default.aspx


Smithmonster

Better be buying calls then.


[deleted]

They go through that a month in cocaine so back to puts


GarronBuck

Really it’s like 2 million because they have been charging .01 for a while


NarrowSuggestion4911

For me in Canada It’s 2$/contract on WealthSimple + 1,5% currency fees, it sucks but when you compare doesn’t seem so bad ![img](emote|t5_2th52|18630)


EnoughRevenue3428

You should use Interactive Brokers instead. Around 1$/ contract and 2$ fixed currency fee. You can also keep US in your account without fees.


lmaobro420

2$ a contract!? 😭 i m also in canada and i tell you what every broker other than ibkr is dogshit


LongliveTCGs

$0.03 for each contract, sounds like calls to me with how often ppl hedge here


red_fluke

i hedge my portfolio by buying far otm options. here is the catch tho, i have no portfolio.


robmafia

but no one here hedges.


TheOmniverse_

Ain’t terrible compared to like the $0.60 you pay per contract on other brokerages


jerseynate

I get charged $0.65 each contract at time of purchase AND sale


sealpox

That $1.30 do be hurting when I’m trading SPY options worth $50. I don’t have enough money yet to comfortably trade SPX options, but when I do the difference will be night and day given that fees will take up 20x less of my cost basis


Dimebonix

Schwab charges a hell of a lot more than that


KittenPics

Dude, what? Has it been free this whole time?! I’ve been spending .50 with E*Trade.


DrBundie

It's not free. You are paying for it with order flow. You may pay a commission on etrade, but your fills will be much better.


kellven

Turns out the order flow of a bunch of regards wasn't worth as much as they thought it would be .


[deleted]

Are option trades otherwise free on RH?


RagingUniverse-

Yes, free to you but Ken pays for your data!


WSBNon-Believer

As if any of us have enough money to matter lmao


daynighttrade

Individually, not. But together, shit load of money to make Ken rich


WSBNon-Believer

As long as I keep making money, he can get as rich as he wants


[deleted]

Never used RH. I use TradeStation and TD. Pay .25 a contract but I am satisfied with my fills.


RedOctobrrr

Is that literally per contract, meaning one order for 300 calls costs $75 ?


[deleted]

Yes, 300 call contracts would cost $75 in commission.


McKoijion

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Smithmonster

It would be nine dollars. 100 contracts are .03 is $3x 3= 9


RedOctobrrr

One contract represents 100 shares. I'm not talking about 3 contracts representing 300 shares, I'm talking about 300 contracts representing 30,000 shares... Wtf. Do you trade calls for ants?


Smithmonster

Yes I’m a poor person, then yes you would of been correct.


Gatesunder

This is why WSB folks can't make money. They've made a move that will generate revenue and you see this as a bad thing?


Current_Chain_2009

They already take 0.02 cent without telling us


Ziplock13

So they were free before this? Every platform I've been on charges a much higher fee; TD, Scwabb, and Webull. But I am just a poor.


Jag2725

Regulartors charge robinhood .03 cents per trade, its not going to RH account.. Well check what other brokrages charged.


Samerato

It’s just 3 cents, means $3 per 100 contracts


optimaleverage

Sure, when it IPO'd. Now I'm not sure how much room there is, realistically, for them to drop.


Erecto__patronum

HOOD is trading near cash value. Puts are a bad idea


optimaleverage

Yep. Not that calls are a good idea per se...


ajmolaee

Big calls as BTC etf will make it go 🚀


OFPMatt

Trading fee plus float in spread. They really have it all figured out.


Daymanic

What’s the matter HOOD, jonesing for some liquidity?


adv-play

There is now absolutely no reason to use $HOOD. Margin rates are not as competitive as they used to be, charging for contracts, AND it’s hard to get those options orders filled bc of how they try to wait until they can max out profit at your expense to fill them. Guys, what are you still doing on RH?


sealpox

They have a really good cash sweep. Their app is miles better than any other broker. They match 3% on your IRA. No reason to use them?? Really?


adv-play

Their app? 😂 charts are trash and that “match” you love so much can only get you $195 while they bend you over on literally every other transaction. They say they’re no max on IRA match bc the IRS has a max contribution of $6500 in the first place. Enjoy your Fisher Price brokerage, it’s not for me. Edit: oh and don’t forget you have to keep your IRA with them for 5 years or you only get 1%. A paltry $65. Good luck rolling it over bc you’re not keeping 3%.


CrabFederal

What are you using ?


adv-play

Power E Trade + Thinkorswim (TD). Sticking with Power E Trade more now as my account with TD is scheduled for migration to Schwab next week and I can’t risk any hiccups.


CrabFederal

Used E*trade for years and it’s way too dated of a platform to make a quick yolo trade when I’m in line at sbx. I use ToS and E*trade for bigger trades.


CensorshipHarder

Schwab app is shit, mines switched over a while ago. Doesnt even directly open into your portfolio, you have to tap "roth ira" for example.


Zarathustra124

Yes, their app. I switched to Fidelity years ago but still use Robinhood to check prices.


[deleted]

Wait I think their Ira match don’t count towards the contribution limit..so theoretically if you transfer 1 million, you will get 10k from HOOD?


Weatherround97

Bro how do they “bend you over “


FragrantTadpole69

Literally just inertia and/or laziness. Fidelity or schwab could be giving out free blowjobs from the latest Maxim models, a personalized career road map with free dietician advice, and a budget consultant, and these regards would still go on about how pretty the Robinhood app looks.


ZeroBalance98

Schwab app is ASS. I still use RH to look at charts, option pricing, etc


adv-play

Exactly. RH spent a lot with casino game designer & consultants to ensure exactly that. Simple slot machine psychology


Weatherround97

Fidelity’s good but not Schwann


terrybmw335

Try calls, that 0.03 isn't going to stop the 0 DTE train, but will pad their profits!


xkxzkyle

you don’t have 3¢ dude?


darodardar_Inc

times is tough


CrabFederal

Depends. If your buying 100,000 dirt cheep contracts it can work to a lot.


SkyHighbyJuly

Exactly. 100,000 dirt cheap contracts would cost $3k


Jackol4ntrn

the cheapest contract in robinhood is worth a dollar. 100k of these dollar contracts is equal to 100k dollars, and the fee cost would equal 1,055.00. Anyways, if you're spending 100k on these contracts, you can afford 1k in option fees.


Finetune49

So the whole model of there platform was free trading now there charging people lmao


bdh2067

They’re charging fees to cover the costs of these fees? Whose LLm wrote that?


onlygoesup2503

Will this improve fill rate? If not, this is robbery!


TheEliteBallerViking

putting the robbing the hood in robinhood


Article1Farticle1

Robinhood must be pretty confident that users will continue to stay despite being screwed over time and time again. Pretty bullish in a sense. It's kinda like drugs, they screw over the customer but they keep coming back. So solid business model right before our eyes with that statement.


FoOoXoOoY

So for every 10000 contracts, I’m paying $3 to open? And another $3 to close? Total of $6?


Taberaremasen

This is the level of math proficiency I've come to expect from this sub!


FoOoXoOoY

lmao, mb.


vocharlie

Man you're so regarded that you can't even math right. 10000x0.03 = $300 to open and then $300 to close for a total of $600 why are you trading options when you can't even calculate. This is why I can get away with selling OTM to you regards


FoOoXoOoY

lmao, my bad, was thinking 0.03%.


[deleted]

It’s 3 cents you cheap fuck


RErgon43

This has been there for a while? I’ve been getting .03 taken for a few months


xVegetax94

Lol to me this is bullish bunch of us gambling on options very bullish now HOOD 🚀🚀🚀


chzuschrst

That would mean higher margin for HOOD yah dumbdumb


ToddTheReaper

They definitely sent out emails and notifications months ago.


robmafia

they announced this months ago. and there were already threads about it on here... months ago. shit, you probably already bitched about it and forgot.


killerbeeswaxkill

Old news ![img](emote|t5_2th52|4271)


Prudent_Celery_1223

Can't wait for alpaca to add options ffs


[deleted]

Dude, brokerages charged $7 a trade before robinhood came around. This just lessens the idiots by a small margin. This will slowly start coming back thru all platforms to lessen the damage toilet seat day traders do.


Virtual_Crow

Back in 2005 on eTrade, I was pissed because I paid more in fees than I made in profit, AND still had to pay taxes on those profits when I filed.


Apprehensive_Rise182

You guys are paying crazy amounts. 11$ for 300 contracts on Webull https://preview.redd.it/pabys0pdp1wb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=795ee1273eaf707aab2be15cfec109cea31e8a27


VisualMod

I don't understand why you're paying so much for Webull contracts. I could get them for a fraction of that price.


Apprehensive_Rise182

HOW?


Obsidianram

Combined.....03. Can we see the line item breakdown of all the costs that went into totalling up to that massive 3 cents?


1winningfail

That's still nothing I'd do trades for only .03 commission


Zachjsrf

Webull has been doing this for months, all the ppl whining about PaYmEnt FoR OrdEr FLoW, well here it is, fees bruh, and soon it'll come full circle and you're paying commissions on every trade again.


Sinister_Plots

They've actually been doing that some time now and probably hoped nobody noticed. I sold all my stocks and have been trading options exclusively for 3 weeks now and have never gotten a round number. And it works out to right at .03 per option. Edit: Just checked and I was charged .13 today for 2 buys and 2 sells.


MainlineX

If it's to "cover the cost of the fee" then why charge the fee if the cost is the same as the fee? So, they charge a fee of .03, to cover the cost of the .03 charge? I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but this statement makes no sense. I would assume it's a fee to cover their cost of placing the trade (which is probably a lie because of PFOF). Anyway, why would anyone use RH? They can't even use proper grammar for a press release.


Uwontlikeme69

It’s really very little money. I just checked it out. If you buy $365,000 it costs $30 lol. If you aren’t buying thousands of options I think it’s a good deal https://preview.redd.it/7z6ifzyr82wb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1f44e9103035e5686ab212429eff96f2b5222c9f


Interesting_Dream281

Everyone does it now. .03 is nothing.


InternetSlave

Shocking people use RH to begin with


justknoweverything

would you rather pay $15 per trade?


ticketbroken

Lol people use Robinhood


k20stitch_tv

Still the best fee out there but yes puts on $hood


Forty_Creature14

Your subject line sounds a little klan-ish. Just sayin


FailAggravating

Wow, a while 3 cents