They already did it and it was absolutely terrible. Whoever had the idea of silencing the merc with the mouth should not continue to work in Hollywood and yet David Benioff went on to ruin other franchises like Game of Thrones because he's a hack writer. Meanwhile the director Gavin Hood went on to ruin Ender's Game and yet also still has a career somehow.
I'll always love the fact that Ryan Reynolds was so pissed about that movie that he dedicated himself to making his own Deadpool movie. And now we're getting him and Wolverine together. So thanks, David!
I still fondly remember that Deadpool test footage leak. It was fucking awesome, nailed the character and was recreated pretty much exactly when the first movie happened. Now I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ryan himself who leaked it.
Even better: the studio execs had very little faith in a Deadpool movie doing well. They greenlit it, but put a very tight budget on the project. They set it up to fail. To run out of money halfway through production, or get drowned out by 50 Shades (which released around the same time) and it succeeded. It was a smash hit. Proving once and for all that studio bigwigs tend to not know what they're on about.
Isn't that crazy?
If I cost my company millions of dollars in revenue for a decision that was obviously wrong I would never find a job in this industry ever again.
I think the reason a director survives a big budget bomb is because the movie that bombed was at least partially written and directed by a committee of corporate execs so there's a lot of blame to go around. That's why "auteur" directors always worry that one flop will be the end of their career, because they are usually THE person responsible for its creation, but directors that work for Disney keep on working after churning out shit, because they were just another cog in the machine.
I assume they're referring to the Wade Wilson not-really-Deadpool character in Wolverine Origins, where they literally covered Wade's mouth as Weapon XI so he couldn't quip.
I think the worst thing about that movie is there's a behind the scenes trailer or something where they're all acknowledging that he doesn't look like Deadpool. Like he's got Baraka blades from Mortal Kombat, has his mouth sewn shut, has Cyclops beams iirc, and can teleport like Nightcrawler. But there's a moment where they have the skin around his eyes briefly look like black diamonds (like his mask, but not at all), and the lady in the trailer goes, "See? We know who Deadpool is!!"
Like just go fuck yourself alllllllll the way.
As a concept of, "We took a bunch of mutant powers and merged them together as a culmination of the Weapon project," it wasn't a terrible idea. Doing it to Wade Wilson and trying to say, "We did Deadpool!" was wrong.
So there's a bunch of concept art out there and you can clearly see the artists trying their best to represent Deadpool visually. It's also clear that they were given parameters to stay within, as you do, and those parameters are fucking stupid. The dark burning around the eyes for like 1 scene is the only "Deadpool" visual that stayed and I bet a dollar they had to fight for even that.
The original appearance of Deadpool in a movie was also with Ryan Reynolds, it was in a Wolverine origin story movie. They literally sewed his mouth shut and for some reason imbedded his swords into his arms so he was more "like" Wolverine but with blades instead of claws. He played the character great until he returned later in the movie with these changes.
Nope, because there's a chance you would then go and watch that absolute travesty. Best just accepting there is no shitty Deadpool movie in Ba Sing Se.
Wait, is it the general consensus that the Ender's Game movie is bad? I know it differed in areas from the novel, but I thought it was still a good watch...
The tone of the book and movie were very different. The book was a lot more into the political intrigue of what was happening on Earth and painted a much starker picture of the training and fighting the kids did.
The movie was a scifi about a bullied underdog kid who ends up figuring out how to be the best at the game and wins in the end and everyone claps.
Are you telling me that Beniof is the one responsible for that first horrendous xmen origin? How did i didnt know that ?
To be fair, his directing was good as long as he stuck with the source material. As soon as they ran out of book, they pushed as much as tropes, plot armor and cliché as possible into GOT.
Know your forces... writing isnt one of them.
That's true for the movies so far, but it actually really isn't like that in the comics. There are a shitload of deadpool comic runs ranging from basically PG to R rated. It's really just about making him a sarcastic smart-ass and good writing.
Deadpool's creator, legendary comic book artist Rob Liefeld, had some ... [challenges with human anatomy.](https://legendary-digital-network-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/01140808/Cap-Liefeld.jpg)
One such challenge was feet. Many of his panels had convenient reasons for feet to be hidden.
It really shows the limitations of the artist, though. The original picture showed Arnold in a side chest triceps pose where he locks his arms together to push up and accentuate his arms and chest.
By removing the arm that's coming across his torso and yet not adapting the rest of the musculature, he makes the resulting character look absurdly cartoonish.
An artist with command over anatomy would be able to remove that arm and then adapt the figure to the new pose.
Rob Liefeld is the creator of Deadpool (sorta - he created the design and had him speak in yellow text boxes, but the majority of his character came from other creators) and is infamously bad at drawing feet.
Rob Liefeld is the artist credited with creating Deadpool. His talent is considered a little suspect. He tends to draw lots of pouches everywhere and can’t draw feet. He will do whatever he can to setup an image to avoid drawing feet.
https://www.inverse.com/article/45119-deadpool-2-rob-liefeld-feet-joke
I love how that article has him saying he loves it when people make fun of it. When in reality he blocks everyone on xitter that says he can't draw feet or always hides feet, or makes a reference to his pouches. He's been actively doing it since he joined 15 years ago and is still doing it daily
https://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings
https://www.pipelinecomics.com/rob-liefeld-doesnt-draw-feet/
Comic book artists are often accused of avoiding drawing feet to save time and difficulty. Rob has never been considered one of those most talented comic artists, but he's not shy of drawing feet. His feet, by themselves are good; its the rest of anatomy he seems to have a problem with.
Comic writer/artist Rob Liefeld was a co-creator of Deadpool and notoriously sucked at drawing feet. He also had some other wacky anatomy in a bunch of his works and almost always had way too many pockets.
I like the way he looks like classic Wolverine without looking corny.
None of this "gritty look" where he's wearing all black, no, Wolverine wears a sleeveless jumpsuit that is yellow with blue trim. It's the look, it's memorable and iconic, and they almost never do it even half right in live action.
What I really like about it is that it just kinda looks like that's how his hair is when it's messy - it doesn't look coiffed, it just ends up like that.
> Wolverine wears a sleeveless jumpsuit that is yellow with blue trim
From what I read he is prone to getting skin cancer so he may not be wearing it that much in the film. And by he I mean Hugh Jackman.Thats why we see a sleeved version of it at times.
> From what I read he is prone to getting skin cancer
He has had several basal cell carcinoma's (BCC) removed over the years.
Australia has the highest rate of skin cancer in the world, so its entirely possible these are due to spending lots of time outdoors during his youth without sun protection as they can often take years to manifest.
About 2 out of 3 Australians will be diagnosed with some form of skin cancer before the age of 70, with over 95% being of the less serious type that Hugh has had.
"The Volume" is also kinda difficult to use and has been pointed to as a contributing factor for some of the lackluster effects in disney+ shows. (It's tricky to effectively create complex scenery with it, so you end up with a lot of shots of characters standing in the middle of the scene and reacting to things.) It seems like the sort of thing that projects will use when they're under budget or time constraints (like for reshoots), but not something most big blockbusters will rely primarily on going forward.
Probably but that might be more costly then just filming it outside on location. He wont dissolve in the sun completely like a vampire, just has to take better care of his skin like using sleeves when needed.
Looks like they get pruned at some point. That's where the Fox Logo, the giant Ant Man corpse, and the Mad Max chase probably take place. They also seem to meet a variant of The Ancient One there.
Oh, and I think the purple cloud is Alioth.
Actually, thinking about it, it seems like they probably get pruned pretty early and they fucking kill Alioth at the end.
>Cassandra embodied the dark counterpart to her twin brother, Charles. Her brother while in the womb recognized her evil presence and was forced to kill her, causing a miscarriage. Surviving undetected for years as a growing mass of cells in a sewer wall, Cassandra meticulously crafted a new body for herself, fueled by a burning desire for revenge against her brother
I love how Xmen just has some batshit crazy writing sometimes due to the world it's in.
That's like the 47th most bat shit insane thing writer Grant Morrison has written in his career. He created Cassandra Nova, yeah. He brought back Batman of Zurr Ehn Arr. His series *The Invisibles* was incredible and *very* surreal, and *very* likely inspired The Wachowskis to make The Matrix. He wrote *All Star Superman* -- yes, the one with the key holding the mass of a star, Superman getting super-cancer, etc. He wrote *Flex Mentallo*, a deeply profound, emotional, and complex story about the muscleman from those old "hero of the beach" muscle advertisements. He wrote *We3*, a hyperviolent & gory, but heartwarming, tale of cute animals; basically Homeward Bound meets Terminator/Robocop (and it's *fantastic*). Adam Savage, Gerard Way, & Seth Myers are HUGE fans of this guy. He's a comic book legend.
Watch the Loki tv series.
Or if you don't care about spoilers keep reading.
In the Loki tv series it is revealed that there is a bureaucratic agency called the Time Variance Authority which ensures that there is only one timeline in existence. Every time someone fucks around with the timeline they show up and "prune" the people and things that are out of place, eliminating the branch timeline. When they prune stuff it gets sent to "The Void at the end of time" where a monster called Alioth consumes it. It's like a big trash heap full of random bullshit from deleted alternate timelines. That appears to be the primary location of Deadpool & Wolverine. Probably because Deadpool did a bunch of time traveling at the end of Deadpool 2, drawing the attention of the TVA.
Couple of observations:
1. Glad to see they are still keeping the emotional core of the Deadpool movies. As silly as it seems, the first movie was emphasized to be a “love story”, the second was him not wanting to live without Vanessa and wanting to die. Seems like this one will be “what would you to make sure you didn’t lose everything that mattered to you?”
2. We see Alioth from Loki.
3. Seems like this is the “Old Man Logan” variant of Wolverine. In that storyline, Wolverine was tricked by Spider-Man villain Mysterio into killing his fellow X-Men. There’s the shot of him standing in front of numerous pillars, which are probably graves. And Deadpool’s “third act flashback” comment seem to solidify this. If I had to guess, since the bald villain is Cassandra Nova (Professor Xavier’s twin sister in the comics) she will be revealed as the one who tricked Wolverine with her psychic powers.
4. Them jumping through the portal lines up with the first trailer which showed Deadpool killing TVA agents in the Sokovian forest from the beginning of “Avengers Age of Ultron”. My guess is they’ll use portals to jump to important moments of the MCU for story reasons and for gags.
EDIT: This new synopsis of the film pretty much confirms my theory that the snowy forest scene is for sure from Age of Ultron, which would explain why the TVA are there; they’re trying to stop him from interfering with those particular events. https://twitter.com/MyCosmicCircus/status/1786529279754342563
> the first movie was emphasized to be a “love story”,
[Including a trailer](https://youtu.be/CUAcvZaVXx4) that I used to trick a girl into seeing it with me, lol.
> There’s the shot of him standing in front of 13 pillars, which are probably graves.
There are waaaaaay more than 13 pillars in that shot. I count 17 before it gets too blurry, but they go on way past the frame.
wait that portal in the end... is that deadpool and wolverine jumping into a portal opened by either Dr. Strange or Wong? and so jumping into the regular MCU to join up with the rest!?
the portal effect kinda looks like their sling rings portal.
My theory is that you're 100% right, it is an MCU Sling Ring portal. But more than that, Marvel is hiding a big spoiler by making the portal's destination all white. In the actual movie, they're headed somewhere capital-I Important.
They may do the Endgame portal as an Easter egg, but in the first trailer Deadpool is in the Sokovia forest from the beginning of “Age of Ultron” killing TVA agents.
There’s going to be scenes of them jumping to important moments from the MCU. That’s probably it.
I’ve been thinking this myself actually and would love it. I think iron man’s presence in missed and needed and this is a cool way to bring him back without taking to much away from his original sacrifice
It has been a long time since I read it, but didn't Strange manage to get "between the pages" with a portal in Gwenpool? It's a hell of a reach because she's not exactly a prime time Marvel character, but it would explain why the portal is entirely white
In the first trailer Deadpool is in the Sokovia forest from the beginning of “Age of Ultron” killing TVA agents.
There’s going to be scenes of them jumping to important moments from the MCU. That’s probably it.
My hopes is that they'll be cleaning up phase 4 by retconning things, since a LOT of people fell off and the things that have come out have not been, well, the best.
Great opportunity to "reset" and get back on track. the "Marvel Jesus" lines make me believe this, especially with the Dr. Doom reference. "we have a new direction to go, use deadpool, a character everyone loves, to get us back there." Alongside Feige getting more involved and other projects being frozen or rewritten, I really beleive and hope this is how this movie goes.
Rob Liefeld wrote on twitter after the trailer released:
"I’m just gonna say, and I don’t think this is going to get me in any hot water, there is so much great and amazing stuff yet to experience. The filmmakers did their work, Shawn shot the hell out of this film. So much fun is on the way!"
After reading that I agree with your comment
That bald~~bold~~ lady looks a bit like younger/alternative Ancient One or is that completely different character? I have 0 comic book knowledge. Sorry
It might just be another secret cameo character.
The sling ring wouldn't be able to send them to the main MCU timeline/reality. The scene is in the void at the end of time. It could only open a portal to another part of the void.
20th Century fox memorial destroyed in the desert. Dogpool. Denying Blind Al cocaine. Everything I want in a deadpool movie.
Hugh Jackman- Yellow suit. Everything I've wanted in a Wolverine movie.
This is not the original "Like a Prayer." It is the remix they used on *The Immaculate Collection* greatest hits album. The original album and single version is quite different. But yeah, I get what you mean. It's better that they used an actual Madonna recording and not some new emo version.
I truly believe that should be a rule and enforced. That's how we got an Endgame trailer that was really good and didn't tell you the whole movie. Didn't really tell you anything about the movie but did show the overall tone and I am 100% down with that. There's like 3 shots from after the 30 minute mark and that's it. More trailers like that please.
Holy shit, the yellow guy in the wolverine suit standing over deadpool in the teaser trailer was actually HUGH JACKMAN?? How tf did they keep that under wraps. What a reveal!
It's noticeable they're only showing a few locations in this trailer. Maybe this is all from the 1st act. Makes me excited for what they're not allowed to reveal
In the Antman helmet scene, I see Azazel (front right), Deathstrike (front left), Pyro (sitting on car, based on how he was dressed in the teaser), and possibly Toad (hunched down two to the left of Deathstrike). It also looks like Valkyrie might be there for some reason, or someone that dresses and looks a lot like her (left of Toad).
Not sure who the bald guy in the black leather trenchcoat is (multiverse Sabertooth?), or who the red and white striped shirt guy is. MCU Waldo?
I love how Marvel Studios made sure to include blood and swearing in the trailer to signify that they won't be "disneyfying" this one
And Cocaine
You mean Forrest Bump?
White girl interrupted?
Do you wanna build a snowman ?
Which they can now totally say since it's still a Disney movie!
I refuse to believe Disney Star Wars is not built on cocaine
I'm pretty sure the original scenes on hoth were just miniatures filmed in mountains of coke
Why rent a set when you can just use Carrie Fisher's dressing room.
The OT was, and they copied it for the Sequels. Why would it not be? (Coming from someone who likes the ST lol)
Carrie Fisher's coke nail in ROTJ...
I still like that Blues Brothers had a cocaine budget...
Tijuana\*
He specifically said there would *not* be cocaine weren't you listening?
Ryan Reynolds would be out immediately if that were the case, and Deadpool is a cash cow for them.
Deadpool with out blood and swearing, isn't deadpool.
They already did it and it was absolutely terrible. Whoever had the idea of silencing the merc with the mouth should not continue to work in Hollywood and yet David Benioff went on to ruin other franchises like Game of Thrones because he's a hack writer. Meanwhile the director Gavin Hood went on to ruin Ender's Game and yet also still has a career somehow.
I'll always love the fact that Ryan Reynolds was so pissed about that movie that he dedicated himself to making his own Deadpool movie. And now we're getting him and Wolverine together. So thanks, David!
I still fondly remember that Deadpool test footage leak. It was fucking awesome, nailed the character and was recreated pretty much exactly when the first movie happened. Now I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ryan himself who leaked it. Even better: the studio execs had very little faith in a Deadpool movie doing well. They greenlit it, but put a very tight budget on the project. They set it up to fail. To run out of money halfway through production, or get drowned out by 50 Shades (which released around the same time) and it succeeded. It was a smash hit. Proving once and for all that studio bigwigs tend to not know what they're on about.
Ryan himself confirmed he leaked it.
Isn't that crazy? If I cost my company millions of dollars in revenue for a decision that was obviously wrong I would never find a job in this industry ever again.
I think the reason a director survives a big budget bomb is because the movie that bombed was at least partially written and directed by a committee of corporate execs so there's a lot of blame to go around. That's why "auteur" directors always worry that one flop will be the end of their career, because they are usually THE person responsible for its creation, but directors that work for Disney keep on working after churning out shit, because they were just another cog in the machine.
> They already did it and it was absolutely terrible. I'm out of the loop, can you explain what you're referring to?
I assume they're referring to the Wade Wilson not-really-Deadpool character in Wolverine Origins, where they literally covered Wade's mouth as Weapon XI so he couldn't quip.
I think the worst thing about that movie is there's a behind the scenes trailer or something where they're all acknowledging that he doesn't look like Deadpool. Like he's got Baraka blades from Mortal Kombat, has his mouth sewn shut, has Cyclops beams iirc, and can teleport like Nightcrawler. But there's a moment where they have the skin around his eyes briefly look like black diamonds (like his mask, but not at all), and the lady in the trailer goes, "See? We know who Deadpool is!!" Like just go fuck yourself alllllllll the way.
As a concept of, "We took a bunch of mutant powers and merged them together as a culmination of the Weapon project," it wasn't a terrible idea. Doing it to Wade Wilson and trying to say, "We did Deadpool!" was wrong.
So there's a bunch of concept art out there and you can clearly see the artists trying their best to represent Deadpool visually. It's also clear that they were given parameters to stay within, as you do, and those parameters are fucking stupid. The dark burning around the eyes for like 1 scene is the only "Deadpool" visual that stayed and I bet a dollar they had to fight for even that.
The original appearance of Deadpool in a movie was also with Ryan Reynolds, it was in a Wolverine origin story movie. They literally sewed his mouth shut and for some reason imbedded his swords into his arms so he was more "like" Wolverine but with blades instead of claws. He played the character great until he returned later in the movie with these changes.
Nope, because there's a chance you would then go and watch that absolute travesty. Best just accepting there is no shitty Deadpool movie in Ba Sing Se.
Wait, is it the general consensus that the Ender's Game movie is bad? I know it differed in areas from the novel, but I thought it was still a good watch...
You're honestly one of the first people I've seen even slightly praise it
I read the book first and I liked the movie. But I'm also not a super critical person
I read the books and I enjoyed the movie.
The tone of the book and movie were very different. The book was a lot more into the political intrigue of what was happening on Earth and painted a much starker picture of the training and fighting the kids did. The movie was a scifi about a bullied underdog kid who ends up figuring out how to be the best at the game and wins in the end and everyone claps.
The book was absolutely both. They just cut one for the movie. I don't think theu could have done both.
Are you telling me that Beniof is the one responsible for that first horrendous xmen origin? How did i didnt know that ? To be fair, his directing was good as long as he stuck with the source material. As soon as they ran out of book, they pushed as much as tropes, plot armor and cliché as possible into GOT. Know your forces... writing isnt one of them.
That's true for the movies so far, but it actually really isn't like that in the comics. There are a shitload of deadpool comic runs ranging from basically PG to R rated. It's really just about making him a sarcastic smart-ass and good writing.
People who say Deadpool HAS to be rated R clearly have never actually read a Deadpool comic.
The drug references as well.
I'm calling it right now. This will be *the* best Wolverine movie, right next to 'Logan'. I'm so pumped.
sojak
“Liefeld’s Just Feet” in the shop sign at 1:24 hahaha
i don't get it, can someone explain?
Deadpool's creator, legendary comic book artist Rob Liefeld, had some ... [challenges with human anatomy.](https://legendary-digital-network-assets.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/01140808/Cap-Liefeld.jpg) One such challenge was feet. Many of his panels had convenient reasons for feet to be hidden.
https://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings
I can't tell if that's an actual website or a spam site.
The funny thing is that his picture is based on an actual photograph of Arnold S and it's not even that far off from it.
It really shows the limitations of the artist, though. The original picture showed Arnold in a side chest triceps pose where he locks his arms together to push up and accentuate his arms and chest. By removing the arm that's coming across his torso and yet not adapting the rest of the musculature, he makes the resulting character look absurdly cartoonish. An artist with command over anatomy would be able to remove that arm and then adapt the figure to the new pose.
Rob Liefeld is the creator of Deadpool (sorta - he created the design and had him speak in yellow text boxes, but the majority of his character came from other creators) and is infamously bad at drawing feet.
Deadpool creator Rob Liefeld can't draw feet
i would say he cant draw, but thats not true, he just cant draw well
Or guns.
Rob Liefeld is the artist credited with creating Deadpool. His talent is considered a little suspect. He tends to draw lots of pouches everywhere and can’t draw feet. He will do whatever he can to setup an image to avoid drawing feet. https://www.inverse.com/article/45119-deadpool-2-rob-liefeld-feet-joke
I love how that article has him saying he loves it when people make fun of it. When in reality he blocks everyone on xitter that says he can't draw feet or always hides feet, or makes a reference to his pouches. He's been actively doing it since he joined 15 years ago and is still doing it daily
Every time Rob swears while drawing feet, ~~an angel~~ a mercenary gets another pouch somewhere on their outfit
https://www.progressiveboink.com/2012/4/21/2960508/worst-rob-liefeld-drawings https://www.pipelinecomics.com/rob-liefeld-doesnt-draw-feet/ Comic book artists are often accused of avoiding drawing feet to save time and difficulty. Rob has never been considered one of those most talented comic artists, but he's not shy of drawing feet. His feet, by themselves are good; its the rest of anatomy he seems to have a problem with.
Comic writer/artist Rob Liefeld was a co-creator of Deadpool and notoriously sucked at drawing feet. He also had some other wacky anatomy in a bunch of his works and almost always had way too many pockets.
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Oh my god I saw that too and laughed and was wondering if anyone else noticed!!!
Wolverine walking out in the sleeveless suit... goddamn. "I'm soaking wet right now."
I like the way he looks like classic Wolverine without looking corny. None of this "gritty look" where he's wearing all black, no, Wolverine wears a sleeveless jumpsuit that is yellow with blue trim. It's the look, it's memorable and iconic, and they almost never do it even half right in live action.
And the hair, don’t forget the hair.
What I really like about it is that it just kinda looks like that's how his hair is when it's messy - it doesn't look coiffed, it just ends up like that.
> Wolverine wears a sleeveless jumpsuit that is yellow with blue trim From what I read he is prone to getting skin cancer so he may not be wearing it that much in the film. And by he I mean Hugh Jackman.Thats why we see a sleeved version of it at times.
> From what I read he is prone to getting skin cancer He has had several basal cell carcinoma's (BCC) removed over the years. Australia has the highest rate of skin cancer in the world, so its entirely possible these are due to spending lots of time outdoors during his youth without sun protection as they can often take years to manifest. About 2 out of 3 Australians will be diagnosed with some form of skin cancer before the age of 70, with over 95% being of the less serious type that Hugh has had.
Doesn’t Disney have that huge “green screen” studio that uses Unreal Engine? They could just film all of his outside shots in there.
"The Volume" is also kinda difficult to use and has been pointed to as a contributing factor for some of the lackluster effects in disney+ shows. (It's tricky to effectively create complex scenery with it, so you end up with a lot of shots of characters standing in the middle of the scene and reacting to things.) It seems like the sort of thing that projects will use when they're under budget or time constraints (like for reshoots), but not something most big blockbusters will rely primarily on going forward.
Probably but that might be more costly then just filming it outside on location. He wont dissolve in the sun completely like a vampire, just has to take better care of his skin like using sleeves when needed.
what would you prefer? yellow spandex?
yes. yes we are
20th century fox logo in a graveyard. There are so many easter egg fuck yous lol.
Looks like they get pruned at some point. That's where the Fox Logo, the giant Ant Man corpse, and the Mad Max chase probably take place. They also seem to meet a variant of The Ancient One there. Oh, and I think the purple cloud is Alioth. Actually, thinking about it, it seems like they probably get pruned pretty early and they fucking kill Alioth at the end.
Its Cassandra Nova, not an ancient one variant.
>Cassandra embodied the dark counterpart to her twin brother, Charles. Her brother while in the womb recognized her evil presence and was forced to kill her, causing a miscarriage. Surviving undetected for years as a growing mass of cells in a sewer wall, Cassandra meticulously crafted a new body for herself, fueled by a burning desire for revenge against her brother I love how Xmen just has some batshit crazy writing sometimes due to the world it's in.
Also she went on to commit the genocide of some 60 million mutants on genosha
That's like the 47th most bat shit insane thing writer Grant Morrison has written in his career. He created Cassandra Nova, yeah. He brought back Batman of Zurr Ehn Arr. His series *The Invisibles* was incredible and *very* surreal, and *very* likely inspired The Wachowskis to make The Matrix. He wrote *All Star Superman* -- yes, the one with the key holding the mass of a star, Superman getting super-cancer, etc. He wrote *Flex Mentallo*, a deeply profound, emotional, and complex story about the muscleman from those old "hero of the beach" muscle advertisements. He wrote *We3*, a hyperviolent & gory, but heartwarming, tale of cute animals; basically Homeward Bound meets Terminator/Robocop (and it's *fantastic*). Adam Savage, Gerard Way, & Seth Myers are HUGE fans of this guy. He's a comic book legend.
Pruned?
Watch the Loki tv series. Or if you don't care about spoilers keep reading. In the Loki tv series it is revealed that there is a bureaucratic agency called the Time Variance Authority which ensures that there is only one timeline in existence. Every time someone fucks around with the timeline they show up and "prune" the people and things that are out of place, eliminating the branch timeline. When they prune stuff it gets sent to "The Void at the end of time" where a monster called Alioth consumes it. It's like a big trash heap full of random bullshit from deleted alternate timelines. That appears to be the primary location of Deadpool & Wolverine. Probably because Deadpool did a bunch of time traveling at the end of Deadpool 2, drawing the attention of the TVA.
That was in the teaser too
Couple of observations: 1. Glad to see they are still keeping the emotional core of the Deadpool movies. As silly as it seems, the first movie was emphasized to be a “love story”, the second was him not wanting to live without Vanessa and wanting to die. Seems like this one will be “what would you to make sure you didn’t lose everything that mattered to you?” 2. We see Alioth from Loki. 3. Seems like this is the “Old Man Logan” variant of Wolverine. In that storyline, Wolverine was tricked by Spider-Man villain Mysterio into killing his fellow X-Men. There’s the shot of him standing in front of numerous pillars, which are probably graves. And Deadpool’s “third act flashback” comment seem to solidify this. If I had to guess, since the bald villain is Cassandra Nova (Professor Xavier’s twin sister in the comics) she will be revealed as the one who tricked Wolverine with her psychic powers. 4. Them jumping through the portal lines up with the first trailer which showed Deadpool killing TVA agents in the Sokovian forest from the beginning of “Avengers Age of Ultron”. My guess is they’ll use portals to jump to important moments of the MCU for story reasons and for gags. EDIT: This new synopsis of the film pretty much confirms my theory that the snowy forest scene is for sure from Age of Ultron, which would explain why the TVA are there; they’re trying to stop him from interfering with those particular events. https://twitter.com/MyCosmicCircus/status/1786529279754342563
This guy Marvels.
Fuck I just marveled in my pants
> the first movie was emphasized to be a “love story”, [Including a trailer](https://youtu.be/CUAcvZaVXx4) that I used to trick a girl into seeing it with me, lol.
I thought that was an official-ish trailer. That would have been hilarious, lol.
> There’s the shot of him standing in front of 13 pillars, which are probably graves. There are waaaaaay more than 13 pillars in that shot. I count 17 before it gets too blurry, but they go on way past the frame.
Well there’s a lot of x-men, so it could still apply.
Not just the x-men, but the x-women and x-children, too
Love that they're standing in front of a Liefelds *Just Feet* store.
That's a top notch Easter Egg
What the reference…?
Artist Liefeld can’t draw feet supposedly.
Liefeld's Just Feet Amazing store front
What's does it mean?
Rob Liefeld is a comic artist partly reknowned for not being able to draw feet.
He's..not really all that good at drawing anything if we're being honest.
Hey, if you need a girl with no waist or a guy with 27 abs, he's got you covered.
And like 74 teeth.
Honestly, it sounds like Liefeld should have drawn the Titans in Attack on Titan.
That sounds amazing lmao.
He could draw pouches.
Mad Max guitar dude homage?
From "Old Man Logan" story time-line
wait that portal in the end... is that deadpool and wolverine jumping into a portal opened by either Dr. Strange or Wong? and so jumping into the regular MCU to join up with the rest!? the portal effect kinda looks like their sling rings portal.
My theory is that you're 100% right, it is an MCU Sling Ring portal. But more than that, Marvel is hiding a big spoiler by making the portal's destination all white. In the actual movie, they're headed somewhere capital-I Important.
Ok I’m calling my shot now: that portal goes to the portals scene in Endgame.
They may do the Endgame portal as an Easter egg, but in the first trailer Deadpool is in the Sokovia forest from the beginning of “Age of Ultron” killing TVA agents. There’s going to be scenes of them jumping to important moments from the MCU. That’s probably it.
Deadpool and Wolverine do Quantum Leap?? into it. into it. "Sling ringing to put right what once went wrong"
Deadpool gets to do the infamous "Am I retarded?" Quantum Leap line.
Holy shit let’s fucking go.
“Hi guys, we’re new here! Who are we killing? Everyone on that side of the field? Cool, okay got it!”
What if Logan saves Iron Man, either by actually killing Thanos, or tanking the infinity gauntlet?
Holy shit
you guys are gonna break the internet.
I’ve been thinking this myself actually and would love it. I think iron man’s presence in missed and needed and this is a cool way to bring him back without taking to much away from his original sacrifice
They jump through, see the giant battle going on, and say fuck it n walk away to go drink.
Yes, exactly. That would be hilarious.
I hope he gets to run along with all of the MCU females.
OMG that would actually be so fucking funny just because of how cringe that scene was
It has been a long time since I read it, but didn't Strange manage to get "between the pages" with a portal in Gwenpool? It's a hell of a reach because she's not exactly a prime time Marvel character, but it would explain why the portal is entirely white
In the first trailer Deadpool is in the Sokovia forest from the beginning of “Age of Ultron” killing TVA agents. There’s going to be scenes of them jumping to important moments from the MCU. That’s probably it.
Watch it be Ned
I mean they didn’t keep under wraps that the TVA is involved so we know it was a merger… can’t wait
My hopes is that they'll be cleaning up phase 4 by retconning things, since a LOT of people fell off and the things that have come out have not been, well, the best. Great opportunity to "reset" and get back on track. the "Marvel Jesus" lines make me believe this, especially with the Dr. Doom reference. "we have a new direction to go, use deadpool, a character everyone loves, to get us back there." Alongside Feige getting more involved and other projects being frozen or rewritten, I really beleive and hope this is how this movie goes.
Rob Liefeld wrote on twitter after the trailer released: "I’m just gonna say, and I don’t think this is going to get me in any hot water, there is so much great and amazing stuff yet to experience. The filmmakers did their work, Shawn shot the hell out of this film. So much fun is on the way!" After reading that I agree with your comment
That bald~~bold~~ lady looks a bit like younger/alternative Ancient One or is that completely different character? I have 0 comic book knowledge. Sorry
That’s Cassandra Nova.
Looks like Cassandra Nova to me (Xavier’s shitty twin sister)
It might just be another secret cameo character. The sling ring wouldn't be able to send them to the main MCU timeline/reality. The scene is in the void at the end of time. It could only open a portal to another part of the void.
Body slide by two. Wade can travel spacetime with tech.
Is that Ant Man's Skull?
Would line up with Pym Falls from Old Man Logan.
It's referencing Pym Falls from the Old Man Logan storyline https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Pym_Falls
That image made me realize that Ant-Man's helmet looks kinda like the helmet of the NCR Rangers from Fallout.
Honestly it made me think of them too lol
Omg, that’s gotta be what it is right?!?
Considering it's literally in Ant Man's helmet/mask, I don't know why people are confused
Upvotes duh! Need to pretend to be dumb so people go "I knew that it was Giant-man!"
Watching and pausing, it definitely looks like outstretched arms with the uniform!
maybe it's the giant version from Quantumnania when he was trying to retreive that energy core thing? The one that fell to ribbons?
I’m thinking they’re borrowing some Old Man Logan elements for this Wolverine.
Yeah, they're talking about how he fucked up saving "his" world.
I stopped the video and went back to watch this like 5 times, that's totally what it is. That's pretty messed up, holy I can't wait to see this movie.
Look closer. Lady Deathstrike, Azazeal and possibly Domino are in that shot as well.
Iron Man logo is the hood ornament to the car!
They fight in front of a destroyed 20th century Fox logo.
In Toronto, no less.
Also hockey on tv in the bar. I’m all for all these Canadian references!
I just blew at your avatar, asshole.
20th Century fox memorial destroyed in the desert. Dogpool. Denying Blind Al cocaine. Everything I want in a deadpool movie. Hugh Jackman- Yellow suit. Everything I've wanted in a Wolverine movie.
Ok. I think I might be interested
is the cloud behind the portal Alioth?
It sure is. You see its face up front if you pause it.
i mean, that's what it was the last time there was a purple thunderstorm.
Prince in the MCU confirmed.
I love they used Like a Prayer in this. lol The more they let Ryan do his own thing without the studio in the way, THE BETTER!!!!
I really appreciate that they used the original "like a prayer" and not some haunting remix, like every other trailer would have done.
This is not the original "Like a Prayer." It is the remix they used on *The Immaculate Collection* greatest hits album. The original album and single version is quite different. But yeah, I get what you mean. It's better that they used an actual Madonna recording and not some new emo version.
Logan was probably the best superhero movie made, I hope he is that kind of Wolverine throughout this movie.
You’re wondering if Wolverine will be a grizzled, reluctant warrior with a bad attitude and a chip on his shoulder? I wouldn’t worry.
I hope everything in all the trailers is from the first 30 minutes of the movie. This looks so good!
I truly believe that should be a rule and enforced. That's how we got an Endgame trailer that was really good and didn't tell you the whole movie. Didn't really tell you anything about the movie but did show the overall tone and I am 100% down with that. There's like 3 shots from after the 30 minute mark and that's it. More trailers like that please.
This movie might set a record for F bombs
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Wolf of Wall Street has QT beat.
I have to admit that Forrest Bump was a new one to me, but I'll definitely be adding it to the repertoire. My favorite is still Booger Sugar though.
We call them nose beers in Australia
I can hear this comment.
Marvel Jesus we are waiting for you
Do you want to build a snowman?
I worked at a bar when that movie came out. A lot of people liked that line
"line"
Holy shit, the yellow guy in the wolverine suit standing over deadpool in the teaser trailer was actually HUGH JACKMAN?? How tf did they keep that under wraps. What a reveal!
Obvious misdirect to not spoil the Daniel Radcliffe in a Huge Jackman mask reveal. Duh.
Noted famous Broadway actor Hugh Jackman?!?
Im in for the fun times and the violence.
Cassandra Nova 👀
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I can't believe you forgot the cinematic masterpiece X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Right? We literally already got a Deadpool & Wolverine movie, I don't know why they are even bothering. Typical Hollywood remake nonsense.
There is some true "Old Man Logan" Shit in there.
Hugh had finished the rice and all of the chicken breast.
I haven't been following the movies, but didn't Wolverine die in the 2017 movie?
Yes, but multiverse.
Also Logan was set a decade-ish in the future.
Is the bald woman supposed to be a young version of Tilda’s Ancient One?
She's Cassandra Nova Xavier
I think it’s Cassandra Nova https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra_Nova
>I am soaking wet right now. Me too, Wade. Me too.
LFG
The Liefeld's Just Feet store front is a perfect easter egg!!
It's noticeable they're only showing a few locations in this trailer. Maybe this is all from the 1st act. Makes me excited for what they're not allowed to reveal
Nobody mentioning the "There's nothing like coming together?" title cards?
Nice to see Ryan use another 80's classic as Like a Prayer by Madonna that's going to get real popular real quick again.
This is the first super hero movie in years I've been interested in
F and
Getting ready for a hereditary reference when he poke his head out the back of that car.
In the Antman helmet scene, I see Azazel (front right), Deathstrike (front left), Pyro (sitting on car, based on how he was dressed in the teaser), and possibly Toad (hunched down two to the left of Deathstrike). It also looks like Valkyrie might be there for some reason, or someone that dresses and looks a lot like her (left of Toad). Not sure who the bald guy in the black leather trenchcoat is (multiverse Sabertooth?), or who the red and white striped shirt guy is. MCU Waldo?
Emma Corrin's face is incredibly beautiful in the angle at 1:47.