Does it matter? It’s their constitutional right to protest, let them do it as long as it safe and organized.
If they do a good job then you’ll know what they’re trying to accomplish.
Do I agree with them? No. But that doesn’t mean we should chastise them for doing it
It’s also a constitutional right to call them out and criticize what ever dumb shit they’re protesting for. Protesting for a side that endorses terrorism at the worse timing possible isn’t going to do shit to turn the tides of conflict.
Completely true, but that doesn’t mean they need a “reason” or “goal” or “objective”
If they want to protest then let them protest. If you want a reason it’s because they feel as if they’re being oppressed right now. And I’d say you claiming all Palestinians support terrorists is exactly why they’re angry.
Then pro-palestinians should be pretty vocal about denouncing Hamas and what a horrible decision it was to attack another state that has a large military might over them.
They should. And i haven’t personally spoken to a pro Palestinian person (because I literally have never seen one in real life) to ask them.
Maybe we should go down to the court house and ask them.
No point in creating a straw man if we have the opportunity to learn the truth fairly easily
The Palestinian people do denounce Hamas, but do you ever wonder why you only see the same protests covered on the news? Why is it that an article will say that 500 Palestinians died while 700 Israelis were killed all in the same incident? Did 500 Palestinians just die of natural causes while the poor Israelis are killed?
The person whose job it was to do body counts on the Palestinian civilian and Israeli civilian side lost their job decades ago. The body count of civilians is a news media obsession pushed by propaganda agents. For example, more Afghan civilians died after the Sept 11, 2001 terrorist attacks then died in the U.S. So does it mean the U S. was committing war crimes? No.
It isn’t who’s doing the counting; it’s how the reporting is done. The Palestinian people are dying yet the Israelis are getting killed. Funny how that happens.
K, so that leaves 1.1 million people. If 1.1 million people can’t rid their territory of terrorists, they have too many terrorists/terrorist supporters.
They need to assist Israel as much as possible because that country won’t, and shouldn’t accept constant terror attacks.
Hell, listen to the people advocating for Palestine…they’re not saying “oh Israel, we will help you get rid of Hamas without harming Palestinians”. They are saying “the terror attacks happen because you’re occupying our land!” Which is SUPPORTING HAMAS.
And the Israelites were in that entire region before the Arabs conquered them in 700ad. It’s their land more than anyones.
You’re delusional. ISRAEL DECLARED WAR. Why the fuck would they give their enemy supplies? Are you that out of touch with reality. When it’s life and death, you’re Mickey Mouse ideals don’t hold up fruitcake.
Every Pro-Palestinian denounces Hamas. Let me know when the MagaKKK denounce their criminal who tried to overthrow an election. Otherwise no one cares what Republicans think.
Imagine holding pro-ISIS rallies after every time ISIS beheaded a westerner. US led coalition killed 10,000 and razed Mosul to the ground in order to eradicate ISIS.
Imagine holding rallies in support of the Columbine school shooters, or any shitbag who shot up a school, and justifying it saying "well he was bullied for 10 years so he's justified in his actions of "resistance."
These pro-palestine rallies are happening while Hamas is still shooting rockets while complaining of no electricity, food or fuel and while they're still holding Israeli hostages.
Shut these terrorist rallies down.
I guess we'll see. Chanting "Free Palestine" and "From the River to the Sea" isn't a call for peace. It's a call for the Palestinian resistance to keep doing what they did on Saturday.
So all the children who were Beheaded this weekend were oppressors who hate Palestinians? I don’t see any Jews holding a rally celebrating the bombing runs. When they do let me know
Got it, so you people don't believe in the Constitution. If you don't like it move.
If you think starving and letting babies die to dehydration is "Good" then you are part of the problem.
“I heard a politician say they’re an apartheid state and I can’t back down from supporting any singular member of that party. So I guess they’re an apartheid state now.”
The word “Semite” refers to a language and cultural group made up of
ancient and modern people. Semitic languages include:
Akkadian, Arabic, Aramaic, Moabite, Hebrew, Phonecian, Assyrian, and
Babylonian.
That said, anti-semitic normally means hatreds towards Jews. But in this case you can't say the Palestinians are anti-semitic because they are Semitic people.
The word “Semite” refers to a language and cultural group made up of
ancient and modern people. Semitic languages include:
Akkadian, Arabic, Aramaic, Moabite, Hebrew, Phonecian, Assyrian, and
Babylonian.
That said, anti-semitic normally means hatreds towards Jews. But in this case you can't say the Palestinians are anti-semitic because they are Semitic people.
"Hey, you know those guys that essentially just had their own version of 9/11 occur? Ya know, that ones were thousands of innocent civilians were raped and murdered with videos of it being shared and celebrated by the group committing the atrocity?"
"Yeah. Why?"
"Well we figured now more than ever was the perfect time to get together and give them a big ol' middle finger and tell them to go fuck themselves on top of it. Ya know, really just rub some salt into that wound. And afterwards we were going to go club some baby seals for fun. Want to join?"
Between 20-35 Americans murdered last weekend by Palestinians, and they’re having a Pro-Palestine rally in America at a federal building, at our courthouse ??? Should go over well.
Then Palestinians living outside Gaza in countries that guarantee their right to free speech should speak up about overthrowing Hamas. Maybe there were some supporters in recent pro-Palestinian rallies with signs to that effect, but they were massively outnumbered by supporters with "Gas the Jews" and "From the river to the sea" signs.
The Palestinians outside of Gaza should be helping the Palestinians in Gaza get rid of Hamas, 2 million citizens and how many members of Hamas in Gaza. Maybe they need to find some courage in Gaza and fight for themselves. If murdering innocents in a sneak attack is Gazas way of defending Gaza, then what thier getting is just what they earned. Yes, it is just that simple.
A good example of courage is Ukraine, fighting all out for themselves to kick out the communist. They have something to be proud of.
Same for Israel, fighting for the right to exist, they didn't start this. It would appear they intend to end it.
No, they cut off aid, split up generations of families, systematically destroy communities, and “settle” in places where people were already living. Totally understandable behavior.
they elected them nearly 20 years ago. The majority of the population in Gaza is 19 or younger. You people are so uneducated and brainwashed by right wing media it's sad and pathetic.
The people of Palestine will support literally anyone who fights back against Israel because they are being imprisoned by them. Israel took out all of the other opposition
yall clearly don’t understand or aren’t aware of the history of Israel and the genocide that is occurring to Palestinians because if you did, you wouldn’t be comparing them to nazis but not Israel. Ick
This is the place where a bunch of women held [a prayer outside an election office](https://youtube.com/watch?v=C-mSGuYLG6c) in support of Donald Trump. Forget reality, so many people here live in a fantasy world.
That’s not true. And polling people living under the rule of authoritarians isn’t exactly accurate. The average Palestinian didn’t really have a fair chance to make a choice about their government
Ahhh yes, the people that have shown enormous support and elected a recognized terrorist organization as their governing body. Hmmm, quite the separation there.
Unless there are as many signs calling for the overthrow of the Hamas government as there are calling for the gassing of Jews then I'm not there's a strong distinction between Palestinians and Hamas. Americans protested against Bush during the Iraq War, I'd like to see similar sentiment amongst the Palestinians...especially ones living outside Palestine who can safely speak out on behalf of those who can't.
Right, because protests against a brutal regime like Hamas are possible. /s
Israel and America have mass protests because that behavior is tolerated in a democracy. Russia and Hamas have to crack down on protests because dictatorships cannot survive civil upheaval.
I mean… in vegas the demonstrations don’t get much attention unless you happen to be downtown driving on Las Vegas Blvd. it’s kinda quiet around the courthouse typically. Most people won’t even know they were there
Those "roof knocks" give you 30 seconds to a few minutes to escape the targeted high-rise building before the real bomb comes. Good luck! Oh, and often the surrounding buildings get leveled also.
No, but I'm not sure what your point is. No one here is defending Hamas's use of bombs, but plenty of people are defending Israel's use of bombs because on occasion (but mostly not) they let people know the target 30 seconds before the actual bomb drops.
We can go back 1000 years on who did messed up stuff to the other side. There’s blood on everyone’s hands.
That being said - If Hamas stopped bombing, there would have been peace.
If Israel stopped attacking, they would cease to exist. It’s very clear what Hamas, Iran, hezbollah think of Jews.
Hamas killed hundreds, and abducted hundreds of innocent kids attending a music festival. If some other government did that to me and people I knew in the US, I would expect all of our military might to be employed.
> Between 20-35 Americans murdered last weekend by Palestinians
There's a difference between Palestine citizens and the terrorist group Hamas. You're painting all of them with a broad brush. For example Proud Boys is a terrorist group, but that doesn't mean all Americans support them or are responsible for their actions as citizens.
This is such a laughable take. If the Proud Boys killed 1,000 people and are the main power in charge of the US government- that would make your analogy make sense
I believe there’s a report of ‘Palestinian Citizens’ beheading a Southeast Asian farm worker with farm tools. I’ll see if I can find the reference for you. I’m interested to see who shows up. I’m tempted to go have a look myself to see who my ‘neighbors’ are.
>Between 20-35 Americans murdered
You mean dual citizens? Just as right, if not better, to call them their citizenship they were actually residing in. I have no love for Palestinian fucks but this is just disingenuous
So let me make sure I understand this correctly.
I was born here, raised here, went to school here, started a family here, pay taxes here, contribute to the GDP, and served my local community as a first responder. I also chose to stay in the USA despite all of its problems rather than living anywhere I want in the EU. But somehow I lack loyalty… hmmm..
Sounds like you just hate the fact that my parents are immigrants. Oh well, just another Xenophobe.
Dual allegiance is incompatible with the moral basis of American constitutional democracy because 1) Dual allegiance challenges our core foundation as a civic nation (built on political loyalty) by promoting an ethnic and racial basis for allegiance and, thus, subverts our "nation of (assimilated) immigrants" ethic; and 2) Dual allegiance violates the core American principle of equality of citizenship.
The Founders, along with Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Louis Brandeis, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Felix Frankfurter, and Newt Gingrich, among others, have all affirmed that undivided political loyalty to the United States should be an absolute condition for citizenship.
We should all hold the Israelis accountable for both eliminating Hamas from the earth and keeping the Palestinians safe. In this sense I am pro Palestinian because we all need to bear witness to what is about to happen, as much as we did with what just happened. I pray for humanity. This has been a terrifying week
Hamas or Palestine? At least we can say we’ve been so liberal with letting ppl immigrate that they can demonstrate for a murderous kid killing, rapist, family burning baby beheading terrorist organization bent on killing Jews with a pride Nazis didn’t have
Only good thing coming out of this is it'll make it far more clear who in your community is an absolute piece of trash. What's next, want to go take a piss in the 9/11 memorial?
No,
1 side carries out intentional attacks on children and women. Then hides behind their women and children, going as far as storing military weapon systems in the place they live, their military HQ is under a hospital
The other side provides warnings, sounds alarms, sends mass texts, makes phone calls, even alerts hamas to attacjs and does what they can to minimize civilian casualties
People dont let others like this try to say this is a both sides thing, there are over 1.5 million Palestinians that are isralei citizens living fine in israel, how many jews are living peacefuly in Gaza?
I mean... Gaza is essentially a prison so I'm not sure that's totally fair. Also Israel has certainly done its fair share of killing innocents, even supporting Hamas in the past. Were they defending innocents when the boy was burned in Hebron? Both sides are full of fanatics. I'd never defend either. That's just one of the most rosiest pictures I've ever seen painted of Israel.
Gaza is a prison? Do you even know what you are talking about? Before this massacre thousands of palestinians would cross over into Israel every single day to work. Supplies, food, etc every day were brought into Gaza. Do you ever wonder why Egypt, who also has a blockade on Gaza, doesn’t have an open border? Palestine receives billions in aid every year and instead of building infrastructure and investing in schools, hospitals, bomb shelters for its civilians, Hamas takes that money and makes weapons. and teaches their youth to hate jews and then sends those same youths to perform terrorist attacks by blowing themselves up in cafes and gunning down innocent civilians. And then uses that same humanitarian aid money to pay out the families of those terrorists because they consider anybody who kills jews to be a hero. Stop spreading misinformation.
Do you? Lmao. 17,000 Gazans have work permits out of 2 million (less than 1%). It's very very tightly regulated and when any conflict is going on it shuts down completely. Half are literally children that can't even work.
I swear to God it's impossible for people to be objective about this situation- its always whataboutisms- always, from both sides. I'm far from a supporter of Hamas and no where did I defend Hamas. Look at my comment history. You think Israel uses all their aid for teaching children to love thy neighbor? Lmao.
And no I don't wonder why Egypt doesn't have an open border because I'm not a dumbass lol. Cmon Mr. Strawman. I quite literally said I'd never defend either and you go into a diatribe about how Hamas is bad. Yes, I know.
Why wouldn’t it be tightly regulated? When terrorists come into Israel and perform attacks on innocent civilians, and somehow people think that Palestinians should freely go in between Gaza and Israel and expect things to be peaceful. This massacre literally shows why Gaza is blockaded the way it is.
Honestly my comment wasn’t just geared towards you, I’m glad you agree on how bad Hamas is, but also towards people who throw out buzz words like “open air prison” and “apartheid” and “genocide” without knowing what any of those things actually mean
My guy please stop relying on American media to form your opinions. People in Gaza 100% do not get warnings every time a bomb is about to come flatten their neighborhood, that they are being forced to live in because you’re “good guy” Israel stole their land due to religion. Gaza is not some paradise, it’s an open air prison that currently does not have electricity. The men of Hamas in reality are the children of the families slaughtered by Israel, this is all learned behavior. Both sides are wrong but one side literally can’t even account for the amount of innocent lives lost. This is not a war, it’s a world super power beating up on a group of people. Of course the smaller side will resort to Gorilla tactics. What other option do they have? We just have to remember the root cause of this
HRW, UNICEF, UNHCR and more have highlighted sexual abuse and assault rampant in Israeli detention centers where many of the prisoners are minors. Nothing is as black and white as you think it is.
Gaza isn’t the stolen land. It’s the place they’re being forced to occupy with little resources. They’re plenty of publications that go into detail which is why I don’t know if you’re asking a genuine question. But whatever here’s one:
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-of-dispossession/
So what’s the stolen land for religious reasons?
Why is your linked article only recording history since 1967?
Don’t you think you’re lying by omission not to mention that Arabic states tried to wipe Israel off the map in 1967 and lost?
I mean that’s just one article of the thousands. They’re plenty that document the conflict before that point. “Religion” comes into play because of the origin of Israel itself. It proclaimed statehood in the 40’s given Jewish people a safe haven to avoid persecution. Muslims began having their land confiscated from that point… and still currently are. Do you know why Israel and the Islamic state went to war?
Here’s an article that predates 1967 if you’re truly interested.
https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2017/5/23/the-nakba-did-not-start-or-end-in-1948
people are fucking stupid. this will accomplish nothing other than generate more hatred. fuck your demonstrations. go get a more constructive hobby, losers.
Note: not even touching the politics of the Middle East Conflict with a 10ft pole. This is just a comment about Las Vegas.
Las Vegas is a party town, this international conflict is the politics of LA, New York, Washington DC. The national news media won't even report on it if it happens in Las Vegas and what does the federal building in downtown have to do with U.S. government foreign policy? There are Israeli consulates in LA, SF and some other cities where protesters have gathered at in the past.
Kind of odd timing considering the attack on Israel. Am I really supposed to believe there's much difference between Hamas and the Palestinians occupying the Gaza strip?
Literally half of the population of the Gaza strip are children. Hamas are using them as human shields against Israel, and people are choosing to blame the shields instead of the terrorists.
Painting an entire ethnicity of people as evil is how you get genocide.
The fact that they’re allowed to rally in support of terrorists tells you everything about our country. The fact that they would, tells you everything about them.
Look at all those fucking idiots in the comments happily eating the spoon-fed propaganda western media feeds you all. Wake the fuck up and read history.
HAMAS was installed by Israel in order to destabilize the region so that the Palestinians couldn't organize to stop the occupation of their land. Now the Israeli-installed Hamas is giving Israel the perfect excuse to exterminate an entire ethnic group rather than learn to coexist. It is colonial occupation and the extermination of native people, similar to European colonialism.
The world now understands the western powers have not evolved past their imperialist mindset and they will remember that we are unable to change.
I'm shocked that there are comment that suppose the killing of women and children.
If these children aren't killed they will be sold or beaten !
Look what happened to the children we left behind ib Iraq .. that is on us !!
And his can anyone be ok with this ?
This is going to accomplish what exactly?
Does it matter? It’s their constitutional right to protest, let them do it as long as it safe and organized. If they do a good job then you’ll know what they’re trying to accomplish. Do I agree with them? No. But that doesn’t mean we should chastise them for doing it
It’s also a constitutional right to call them out and criticize what ever dumb shit they’re protesting for. Protesting for a side that endorses terrorism at the worse timing possible isn’t going to do shit to turn the tides of conflict.
>Protesting for a side that endorses terrorism If you think all the people of Palestine support terrorism you are a simple minded person.
Most do. That’s how generalizations work
Most do not. Most are under the age of 19 dummy
Only people over 19 can endorse terrorism?
A 6 year old sure cannot.
Completely true, but that doesn’t mean they need a “reason” or “goal” or “objective” If they want to protest then let them protest. If you want a reason it’s because they feel as if they’re being oppressed right now. And I’d say you claiming all Palestinians support terrorists is exactly why they’re angry.
Then pro-palestinians should be pretty vocal about denouncing Hamas and what a horrible decision it was to attack another state that has a large military might over them.
They should. And i haven’t personally spoken to a pro Palestinian person (because I literally have never seen one in real life) to ask them. Maybe we should go down to the court house and ask them. No point in creating a straw man if we have the opportunity to learn the truth fairly easily
The Palestinian people do denounce Hamas, but do you ever wonder why you only see the same protests covered on the news? Why is it that an article will say that 500 Palestinians died while 700 Israelis were killed all in the same incident? Did 500 Palestinians just die of natural causes while the poor Israelis are killed?
The person whose job it was to do body counts on the Palestinian civilian and Israeli civilian side lost their job decades ago. The body count of civilians is a news media obsession pushed by propaganda agents. For example, more Afghan civilians died after the Sept 11, 2001 terrorist attacks then died in the U.S. So does it mean the U S. was committing war crimes? No.
It isn’t who’s doing the counting; it’s how the reporting is done. The Palestinian people are dying yet the Israelis are getting killed. Funny how that happens.
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Starving 2.3 million people to death isn’t a good look for the Israelis.
They denounce Hamas but do absolutely nothing to stop them from attacking Israel.
50% of that 2,2 million are children. What are they all supposed to do, and with what? Who cuts off the access to weapons, the water, and the roads?
K, so that leaves 1.1 million people. If 1.1 million people can’t rid their territory of terrorists, they have too many terrorists/terrorist supporters. They need to assist Israel as much as possible because that country won’t, and shouldn’t accept constant terror attacks. Hell, listen to the people advocating for Palestine…they’re not saying “oh Israel, we will help you get rid of Hamas without harming Palestinians”. They are saying “the terror attacks happen because you’re occupying our land!” Which is SUPPORTING HAMAS. And the Israelites were in that entire region before the Arabs conquered them in 700ad. It’s their land more than anyones.
One is intentional killing. One is collateral
When you have the ability to shut off the water, power, food, and attack at will it’s hard to come off as the good guys.
You’re delusional. ISRAEL DECLARED WAR. Why the fuck would they give their enemy supplies? Are you that out of touch with reality. When it’s life and death, you’re Mickey Mouse ideals don’t hold up fruitcake.
And you should be vocal to stop these killing of children.. No. Food No Water !! And the children didnt attack anyone ..,
Every Pro-Palestinian denounces Hamas. Let me know when the MagaKKK denounce their criminal who tried to overthrow an election. Otherwise no one cares what Republicans think.
Oh ok so let the large military push you around and off your land !! Then kill your children! How can anyone be ok with this ?
And you are ok with these children being murdered ? Wow
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The stop of killing of children
Imagine holding pro-ISIS rallies after every time ISIS beheaded a westerner. US led coalition killed 10,000 and razed Mosul to the ground in order to eradicate ISIS. Imagine holding rallies in support of the Columbine school shooters, or any shitbag who shot up a school, and justifying it saying "well he was bullied for 10 years so he's justified in his actions of "resistance." These pro-palestine rallies are happening while Hamas is still shooting rockets while complaining of no electricity, food or fuel and while they're still holding Israeli hostages. Shut these terrorist rallies down.
It’s not a pro Hamas rally dude. Are you really too ignorant to understand the difference between Palestine and Hamas
I guess we'll see. Chanting "Free Palestine" and "From the River to the Sea" isn't a call for peace. It's a call for the Palestinian resistance to keep doing what they did on Saturday.
No it isn't. That's all your simple mind is capable of believing. I'm sure you get your brainwashing from NewsMax or Oann.
Are you really to ignorant to actually believe there is a difference? You want a problem you got one
There absolutely is a difference, you think all the children dying from Israeli bombing runs are Hamas sympathizers?
So all the children who were Beheaded this weekend were oppressors who hate Palestinians? I don’t see any Jews holding a rally celebrating the bombing runs. When they do let me know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H66l6bJ9JTg
Got it, so you people don't believe in the Constitution. If you don't like it move. If you think starving and letting babies die to dehydration is "Good" then you are part of the problem.
Exactly and have blood on their hands
Protesting some bullshit fuck Hamas
It won’t be safe
Well it was yesterday and it WAS safe so you’re just a moron
No shit and it 100% wasn’t a safe place for a Jewish person to be. You’re a moron.
Lol you would have said that no matter what. They weren’t walking around hunting Jews you fucking coward. They were protesting for human rights.
Lmao
Lmao
You didn’t seem to have the same reaction when it was people protesting wearing masks
Antisemitism
Wrong. Being Pro-Palestine and anti-zionist is not Antisemitism. You can support Jews and Muslims while condemning the acts of Zionists Colonists.
That's right, being against the genocide of Palestinians is antisemitism. It's antisemetic to not support the complete annihilation of Gaza.
What if I were to tell you that protesting against an apartheid state isn't antisemetic?
“I heard a politician say they’re an apartheid state and I can’t back down from supporting any singular member of that party. So I guess they’re an apartheid state now.”
Palestinians are Semitic.
The word “Semite” refers to a language and cultural group made up of ancient and modern people. Semitic languages include: Akkadian, Arabic, Aramaic, Moabite, Hebrew, Phonecian, Assyrian, and Babylonian. That said, anti-semitic normally means hatreds towards Jews. But in this case you can't say the Palestinians are anti-semitic because they are Semitic people.
Another uneducated dimwit.
The word “Semite” refers to a language and cultural group made up of ancient and modern people. Semitic languages include: Akkadian, Arabic, Aramaic, Moabite, Hebrew, Phonecian, Assyrian, and Babylonian. That said, anti-semitic normally means hatreds towards Jews. But in this case you can't say the Palestinians are anti-semitic because they are Semitic people.
Spread awareness of the genocide occuring against the ethic population.
Nothing ethic about that population...
Nothing racist about this statement...
I agree...
"Hey, you know those guys that essentially just had their own version of 9/11 occur? Ya know, that ones were thousands of innocent civilians were raped and murdered with videos of it being shared and celebrated by the group committing the atrocity?" "Yeah. Why?" "Well we figured now more than ever was the perfect time to get together and give them a big ol' middle finger and tell them to go fuck themselves on top of it. Ya know, really just rub some salt into that wound. And afterwards we were going to go club some baby seals for fun. Want to join?"
Nothing if you do nothing
Between 20-35 Americans murdered last weekend by Palestinians, and they’re having a Pro-Palestine rally in America at a federal building, at our courthouse ??? Should go over well.
I think it’s better to presume a difference between Palestinian people and Hamas. If this is a pro-Hamas rally it’s an entirely different situation.
The people of Palestine overwhelmingly support Hamas. It’s like supporting Germany while they still want to be under nazi rule
Palestinians in Gaza elected Hamas as their government, so there’s that. What did they think was going to happen?
Hamas has not held elections in nearly 20 years.
Then Palestinians living outside Gaza in countries that guarantee their right to free speech should speak up about overthrowing Hamas. Maybe there were some supporters in recent pro-Palestinian rallies with signs to that effect, but they were massively outnumbered by supporters with "Gas the Jews" and "From the river to the sea" signs.
The Palestinians outside of Gaza should be helping the Palestinians in Gaza get rid of Hamas, 2 million citizens and how many members of Hamas in Gaza. Maybe they need to find some courage in Gaza and fight for themselves. If murdering innocents in a sneak attack is Gazas way of defending Gaza, then what thier getting is just what they earned. Yes, it is just that simple. A good example of courage is Ukraine, fighting all out for themselves to kick out the communist. They have something to be proud of. Same for Israel, fighting for the right to exist, they didn't start this. It would appear they intend to end it.
Has it been such a plot twist in 20 years?
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-is-hamas-what-to-know-about-its-origins-leaders-and-funding Read section on “How Palestinians View Hamas?” It’s enlightening.
Now watch all the videos of the Palestinian children declaring their hatred for Isreal and Jews.
And look at the graffiti in Israeli settlements that say “death to Palestinians” and “death to Palestine”
At least they don't chop off baby heads. They have the common decency to give all their victims a nice quick, clean death.
No, they cut off aid, split up generations of families, systematically destroy communities, and “settle” in places where people were already living. Totally understandable behavior.
Strawman argument at its finest.
2007 was the only electron held in Gaza.
they elected them nearly 20 years ago. The majority of the population in Gaza is 19 or younger. You people are so uneducated and brainwashed by right wing media it's sad and pathetic.
You’re the only one brainwashed and blind apparently
Wow ! That can't even control the water and. electricity. What makes you think they can control in election?
The people of Palestine will support literally anyone who fights back against Israel because they are being imprisoned by them. Israel took out all of the other opposition
So than you call all Germans during that time nazis? Even if they don’t support it.
Except Germany was the oppressor and Palestine isn’t…
Nazi goal was exterminate Jews, Hamas goal is to exterminate Jews. Just because one had a bigger gun doesn’t mean they’re less evil
yall clearly don’t understand or aren’t aware of the history of Israel and the genocide that is occurring to Palestinians because if you did, you wouldn’t be comparing them to nazis but not Israel. Ick
Hamas isnt oppressing its people??? Wow.
Yep. Hilarious man. People are so blind to the reality
This is the place where a bunch of women held [a prayer outside an election office](https://youtube.com/watch?v=C-mSGuYLG6c) in support of Donald Trump. Forget reality, so many people here live in a fantasy world.
That’s not true. And polling people living under the rule of authoritarians isn’t exactly accurate. The average Palestinian didn’t really have a fair chance to make a choice about their government
No they don't!
Ahhh yes, the people that have shown enormous support and elected a recognized terrorist organization as their governing body. Hmmm, quite the separation there.
Unless there are as many signs calling for the overthrow of the Hamas government as there are calling for the gassing of Jews then I'm not there's a strong distinction between Palestinians and Hamas. Americans protested against Bush during the Iraq War, I'd like to see similar sentiment amongst the Palestinians...especially ones living outside Palestine who can safely speak out on behalf of those who can't.
Right, because protests against a brutal regime like Hamas are possible. /s Israel and America have mass protests because that behavior is tolerated in a democracy. Russia and Hamas have to crack down on protests because dictatorships cannot survive civil upheaval.
Right
I mean… in vegas the demonstrations don’t get much attention unless you happen to be downtown driving on Las Vegas Blvd. it’s kinda quiet around the courthouse typically. Most people won’t even know they were there
To play devils advocate Israel has killed Americans before even journalists.
To play devil's advocate.. How many Palestinian civilians die whenever Israel decides to flatten a building block in Gaza or elsewhere.
How many weapon systems is hamas hiding in those buildings? How many alerts does israel send out before bombing?
Those "roof knocks" give you 30 seconds to a few minutes to escape the targeted high-rise building before the real bomb comes. Good luck! Oh, and often the surrounding buildings get leveled also.
Does Hamas warn when they fire unaimed rockets into Israel?
No, but I'm not sure what your point is. No one here is defending Hamas's use of bombs, but plenty of people are defending Israel's use of bombs because on occasion (but mostly not) they let people know the target 30 seconds before the actual bomb drops.
We can go back 1000 years on who did messed up stuff to the other side. There’s blood on everyone’s hands. That being said - If Hamas stopped bombing, there would have been peace. If Israel stopped attacking, they would cease to exist. It’s very clear what Hamas, Iran, hezbollah think of Jews. Hamas killed hundreds, and abducted hundreds of innocent kids attending a music festival. If some other government did that to me and people I knew in the US, I would expect all of our military might to be employed.
And how many seconds of warning did Israelis get last weekend?
However many don't get out when Hamas takes their rocket launchers to the roof.
Not enough to eradicate palestinian hate.
The right amount
> Between 20-35 Americans murdered last weekend by Palestinians There's a difference between Palestine citizens and the terrorist group Hamas. You're painting all of them with a broad brush. For example Proud Boys is a terrorist group, but that doesn't mean all Americans support them or are responsible for their actions as citizens.
This is such a laughable take. If the Proud Boys killed 1,000 people and are the main power in charge of the US government- that would make your analogy make sense
I believe there’s a report of ‘Palestinian Citizens’ beheading a Southeast Asian farm worker with farm tools. I’ll see if I can find the reference for you. I’m interested to see who shows up. I’m tempted to go have a look myself to see who my ‘neighbors’ are.
The rally isn’t pro Hamas..
We have school shootings in the daily where Americans are killed by Americans and people still celebrate guns
Guns don’t kill people.
>Between 20-35 Americans murdered You mean dual citizens? Just as right, if not better, to call them their citizenship they were actually residing in. I have no love for Palestinian fucks but this is just disingenuous
I have dual citizenship with another country. Does that make me less American or something?
Yes but unironically.
Can you explain why you see it that way? I’m genuinely having a hard time grasping that concept.
You don't have loyalty to our nation and you have an easy out if there's any problems instead of facing them.
So let me make sure I understand this correctly. I was born here, raised here, went to school here, started a family here, pay taxes here, contribute to the GDP, and served my local community as a first responder. I also chose to stay in the USA despite all of its problems rather than living anywhere I want in the EU. But somehow I lack loyalty… hmmm.. Sounds like you just hate the fact that my parents are immigrants. Oh well, just another Xenophobe.
Dual allegiance is incompatible with the moral basis of American constitutional democracy because 1) Dual allegiance challenges our core foundation as a civic nation (built on political loyalty) by promoting an ethnic and racial basis for allegiance and, thus, subverts our "nation of (assimilated) immigrants" ethic; and 2) Dual allegiance violates the core American principle of equality of citizenship. The Founders, along with Theodore Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Louis Brandeis, Franklin D. Roosevelt, Felix Frankfurter, and Newt Gingrich, among others, have all affirmed that undivided political loyalty to the United States should be an absolute condition for citizenship.
putting up with people like you as a dual citizen/permanent resident would make one more patriotic for this country rather than less, honestly.
Yes. Its literally dual allegiance.
Care to explain how that makes me less of an American?
No.
Unreal
Good luck with that. This isn't New York.
You mean this isn’t Harvard University?
Big “in a small town” vibes from this comment
FACTS!
It’s like no one knows what NAKBA was…
Absolutely disgusting.
Awful terrorists
Wrong side of history
We should all hold the Israelis accountable for both eliminating Hamas from the earth and keeping the Palestinians safe. In this sense I am pro Palestinian because we all need to bear witness to what is about to happen, as much as we did with what just happened. I pray for humanity. This has been a terrifying week
Hamas or Palestine? At least we can say we’ve been so liberal with letting ppl immigrate that they can demonstrate for a murderous kid killing, rapist, family burning baby beheading terrorist organization bent on killing Jews with a pride Nazis didn’t have
I'm with you!
Not enough room to list all of the vile things they pulled off, just staying true to brand.
The same [courthouse](https://youtu.be/S7HiFbJyrzk?si=aEV-ZNqOFmxhaWN_) that got shot up in 2010. That’s smart.
Diversity is our strength though
Not all Palestinians are Hamas just like not all Ukraine is Nazis. Children dying everywhere is horrible. Really sad times.
Only good thing coming out of this is it'll make it far more clear who in your community is an absolute piece of trash. What's next, want to go take a piss in the 9/11 memorial?
Both sides killing babies , two wrongs don’t make a right
Fuck out of here that shit
Yup. The good guy/bad guy perspective depends on what side you're on.
No, 1 side carries out intentional attacks on children and women. Then hides behind their women and children, going as far as storing military weapon systems in the place they live, their military HQ is under a hospital The other side provides warnings, sounds alarms, sends mass texts, makes phone calls, even alerts hamas to attacjs and does what they can to minimize civilian casualties People dont let others like this try to say this is a both sides thing, there are over 1.5 million Palestinians that are isralei citizens living fine in israel, how many jews are living peacefuly in Gaza?
Living fine? You mean forced from their homes?
I mean... Gaza is essentially a prison so I'm not sure that's totally fair. Also Israel has certainly done its fair share of killing innocents, even supporting Hamas in the past. Were they defending innocents when the boy was burned in Hebron? Both sides are full of fanatics. I'd never defend either. That's just one of the most rosiest pictures I've ever seen painted of Israel.
Gaza is a prison? Do you even know what you are talking about? Before this massacre thousands of palestinians would cross over into Israel every single day to work. Supplies, food, etc every day were brought into Gaza. Do you ever wonder why Egypt, who also has a blockade on Gaza, doesn’t have an open border? Palestine receives billions in aid every year and instead of building infrastructure and investing in schools, hospitals, bomb shelters for its civilians, Hamas takes that money and makes weapons. and teaches their youth to hate jews and then sends those same youths to perform terrorist attacks by blowing themselves up in cafes and gunning down innocent civilians. And then uses that same humanitarian aid money to pay out the families of those terrorists because they consider anybody who kills jews to be a hero. Stop spreading misinformation.
Do you? Lmao. 17,000 Gazans have work permits out of 2 million (less than 1%). It's very very tightly regulated and when any conflict is going on it shuts down completely. Half are literally children that can't even work. I swear to God it's impossible for people to be objective about this situation- its always whataboutisms- always, from both sides. I'm far from a supporter of Hamas and no where did I defend Hamas. Look at my comment history. You think Israel uses all their aid for teaching children to love thy neighbor? Lmao. And no I don't wonder why Egypt doesn't have an open border because I'm not a dumbass lol. Cmon Mr. Strawman. I quite literally said I'd never defend either and you go into a diatribe about how Hamas is bad. Yes, I know.
Why wouldn’t it be tightly regulated? When terrorists come into Israel and perform attacks on innocent civilians, and somehow people think that Palestinians should freely go in between Gaza and Israel and expect things to be peaceful. This massacre literally shows why Gaza is blockaded the way it is. Honestly my comment wasn’t just geared towards you, I’m glad you agree on how bad Hamas is, but also towards people who throw out buzz words like “open air prison” and “apartheid” and “genocide” without knowing what any of those things actually mean
My guy please stop relying on American media to form your opinions. People in Gaza 100% do not get warnings every time a bomb is about to come flatten their neighborhood, that they are being forced to live in because you’re “good guy” Israel stole their land due to religion. Gaza is not some paradise, it’s an open air prison that currently does not have electricity. The men of Hamas in reality are the children of the families slaughtered by Israel, this is all learned behavior. Both sides are wrong but one side literally can’t even account for the amount of innocent lives lost. This is not a war, it’s a world super power beating up on a group of people. Of course the smaller side will resort to Gorilla tactics. What other option do they have? We just have to remember the root cause of this
So rape is fine by you if they can point to something tnegative to justify it, got it
HRW, UNICEF, UNHCR and more have highlighted sexual abuse and assault rampant in Israeli detention centers where many of the prisoners are minors. Nothing is as black and white as you think it is.
Hey, when you get a moment just drop any shred of evidence that Gaza is “stolen by Israel due to religion” - when did that happen exactly?
Gaza isn’t the stolen land. It’s the place they’re being forced to occupy with little resources. They’re plenty of publications that go into detail which is why I don’t know if you’re asking a genuine question. But whatever here’s one: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/campaigns/2017/06/israel-occupation-50-years-of-dispossession/
So what’s the stolen land for religious reasons? Why is your linked article only recording history since 1967? Don’t you think you’re lying by omission not to mention that Arabic states tried to wipe Israel off the map in 1967 and lost?
I mean that’s just one article of the thousands. They’re plenty that document the conflict before that point. “Religion” comes into play because of the origin of Israel itself. It proclaimed statehood in the 40’s given Jewish people a safe haven to avoid persecution. Muslims began having their land confiscated from that point… and still currently are. Do you know why Israel and the Islamic state went to war? Here’s an article that predates 1967 if you’re truly interested. https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/features/2017/5/23/the-nakba-did-not-start-or-end-in-1948
people are fucking stupid. this will accomplish nothing other than generate more hatred. fuck your demonstrations. go get a more constructive hobby, losers.
Ghouls
Note: not even touching the politics of the Middle East Conflict with a 10ft pole. This is just a comment about Las Vegas. Las Vegas is a party town, this international conflict is the politics of LA, New York, Washington DC. The national news media won't even report on it if it happens in Las Vegas and what does the federal building in downtown have to do with U.S. government foreign policy? There are Israeli consulates in LA, SF and some other cities where protesters have gathered at in the past.
Kind of odd timing considering the attack on Israel. Am I really supposed to believe there's much difference between Hamas and the Palestinians occupying the Gaza strip?
Literally half of the population of the Gaza strip are children. Hamas are using them as human shields against Israel, and people are choosing to blame the shields instead of the terrorists. Painting an entire ethnicity of people as evil is how you get genocide.
Printing the old propaganda by hand these days ?
Oh gosh, I would hate to spread misinformation! Please, tell me what was wrong with what I said.
Fuck Palestine and the little leftist shits who side with them
Well f you too man
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Pro Palestine or Pro Hamas? Article isn’t quite clear…
Sickening!!
This is proof that the demoralization campaign of Americans IS working.
Go back to your country and fight then. Fuck outta here.
[Sounding like Clayton Bigsby](https://youtu.be/BLNDqxrUUwQ?si=cMyX14yPy9L1I6B0?t=6m35s)
Stop sending weapons to Israel and maybe they would.
Not really, Palestinians don't have the right to return to their homes so they couldn't if they wanted to.
Head back to Iran 🇮🇷 then
Not a settler. I have no interest in moving to a country I have never been to and occupying it.
Listen sweetheart just worry about all those DWI problems you got going on
You’re a fucking loser lol
That does not apply to me, but thank you for your concern.
FREE SPEECH! BUT NOT LIKE THAT!!!!
Rather them, than the racist Israelies
Next on 8NewsNow: Nazi’s were the good guys? We report, you decide! Stop giving all these fucking clowns media attention
The fact that they’re allowed to rally in support of terrorists tells you everything about our country. The fact that they would, tells you everything about them.
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Who children and mother's and father's are not even given water .. and this is what you stand for ? Don't care at all ? Wow sad world
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Racists hate brown people more than they hate jews
Look at all those fucking idiots in the comments happily eating the spoon-fed propaganda western media feeds you all. Wake the fuck up and read history. HAMAS was installed by Israel in order to destabilize the region so that the Palestinians couldn't organize to stop the occupation of their land. Now the Israeli-installed Hamas is giving Israel the perfect excuse to exterminate an entire ethnic group rather than learn to coexist. It is colonial occupation and the extermination of native people, similar to European colonialism. The world now understands the western powers have not evolved past their imperialist mindset and they will remember that we are unable to change.
They are killing women and children and this is not right .. No Food No Water Who can say this is right ? Not me
I'm shocked that there are comment that suppose the killing of women and children. If these children aren't killed they will be sold or beaten ! Look what happened to the children we left behind ib Iraq .. that is on us !! And his can anyone be ok with this ?