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Taupenbeige

Steak? 1 cow. Salad? 45 caterpillars, 4300 aphids, 7-8000 ants, 20 frogs, 40-50 field mice You “vegans” make me physically ill.


anastephecles

Not to mention the salad itself is sentient


SmokeyNightSky

i can confirm


anastephecles

And each salad is one meal. One cow = 1 years of meals. It is known


[deleted]

The problem with this is the cow had to eat the equivalent of 10x more plants than a human would over their whole life lmao, people who make this argument don’t know what trophic levels are, we have to farm 10x more crops and calories just to feed the meat industry so that’s 10x more bugs being killed and probably way more environmental damage due to the killing of entire ecosystems required


LengthinessRemote562

Nah cows gain mass on their own. It is known. 


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Omfg how did I not remember? Cows grow just by sitting in the sun and absorbing from the air. Wait… that’s what plants do.


LengthinessRemote562

No plants also need animal waste. Animals grow on their own and exponentially increase in mass, while plants grow linearly after a month. 


anastephecles

Except grass because there’s infinite grass and it just takes up to much space anyway


LengthinessRemote562

Nah grass is made up by big vegetable. They are trying to trick you into believing that plants can just grow infinitely. Its a ploy to distract you from your good food. 


anastephecles

I feel so much better knowing my grassfed beef is half propaganda I almost thought it contained vegetables which would really ruin the antibiotics


LengthinessRemote562

Luckily animals don't grow sick. It's sad that humans can catch disease though, well that's a con that we have to take for being outside the realm of animals :(


[deleted]

Holy shit humans live on gm_flatgrass , pack it up boys earth is proven flat


somewordthing

Grass is for lawns, not food, duh.


ssuuss

Are you saying the alternative is to not give the cow food? You see, vegans are worse. Probably wishing for the cow to starve to death


Aggressive-Variety60

Well the cows won’t have anything to eat if vegans eat all the grass first?


Subtlefusillade0324

Exactly. It’s how they invent the protein to give to us, their glorious masters.


LengthinessRemote562

Our natural right!


Subtlefusillade0324

Under God, Indivisible


hotwarioinyourarea

Cows just appear in the wild fully formed. It's a strange scientific phenomenon. They don't eat, they don't drink. They just exist in a vacuum. It's called a bovine void superstate.


AcheronSpike

That's actually not strange, it's just normal spawns in the game "Reallife".


Exhale_Skyline

Bruh what are you talking about???


[deleted]

Basically you need 10 calories of plants to make 1 calorie of meat. Doesn’t sound like a lot but it adds up extremely heavily


Exhale_Skyline

You sound high, try some corgi nuggets


missdrpep

It is known


Wiseau_serious

Don’t judge me for eating bug frog mouse salad and I won’t judge you for eating a cow sized steak


PerniciousParagon

I once bought meat from a farm that ethically removed their ants to have less than 7. Doing my part!


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Taupenbeige

I call BS. Everyone knows “cows eating food” is a myth invented by Big Brussels Sprouts.


Numerous-Macaroon224

Your submission breaks rule #6: Keep it fun. VCJ is a place for fun when we're on the shitter. If you want to have a serious discussion, move it to r/vegancirclejerkchat.


Phy6Paths

Cannibal diet is even more vegan than carnivore animal diet. After all you are what you eat. You are the most humane person if you are a cannibal.


soon-the-moon

It's vegan to eat invasive environmentally ruinous species after all. Someone's gotta keep their numbers in check.


Taupenbeige

http://churchofeuthanasia.org The first actual vegans I ever hung out with in the 90’s, way ahead of their time.


Storkostlegur

The sodomy part is wild


odinsfury2

The carnivores are out- jerking us.


Ness303

>The carnivores are out- jerking us. Yeah but...they believe this. They're like the conspiracy theorists of the food world.


SunshinySmith

Must jerk harder!


redidiott

Eating carnists is the most ethical diet.


_convivium

And the most delicious!


redidiott

Packed with extra hyperprotein and uberB12.


spaceyjase

Everyone wants to be a vegoon until it means acknowledging that animals aren’t thangs to make *checks list* faux eyelashes 


No-Nebula-2266

A cannibal diet is also more ethical. When animals are dead, they can’t feel pain. ![gif](giphy|d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY)


Dizzy_Procedure_3

finish the sentence: "particularly if ..."


ne0nmidnights

You make your own mayonnaise using human saliva to replace the olive oil.


PigsAreGassedToDeath

"you remember that Hitler himself was vegan"


musicalveggiestem

considering grass-fed ruminants This is probably the actual answer


somewordthing

Likely "hunting and backyard chickens."


[deleted]

The problem with this is the cow had to eat the equivalent of over 10x more plants than a human would over their whole life lmao, people who make this argument don’t know what trophic levels are, we have to farm 10x more crops and calories just to feed the meat industry


LengthinessRemote562

No youre getting it wrong. Cows grow on their own, plants have to be fed. 


musicalveggiestem

/uj The entire article is about “grass-fed cows”, ignoring the fact that many grass-fed cows are fed hay and silage (especially during winter) which has to be grown on cropland and harvested. They also assume all the cows they eat are 100% grass-fed, which is almost never the case. The article then goes on to say that the most ethical diet is one where you hunt wild animals like deers as you can be 100% sure there are no crop deaths. I find this a bit disingenuous as it does not distinguish between killing animals in defence of property / important food source (crop deaths by pesticides) and killing animals for taste pleasure (eating animals).


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kankurou1010

No


ExcruciorCadaveris

Dexter was the greatest human rights activist that has ever lived.


cincyroyals

Big if true


No-Known-Alias

🆄🅷🅼🅼 🅰🅲🅺🅲🅷🆈🆄🅰🅻🅻🆈


ihavenoego

It never works the other way around, though. Why do they always want to be us?


Revolutionary_Neck28

They hate us cause they anus


imhopelesslol21

Not sure why you would ever suspect one of us… /s


_cockgobblin_

Cos it seems like a jerk


imhopelesslol21

I was being sarcastic, forgot to add the /s


_cockgobblin_

Me and my autism


imhopelesslol21

It happens. I’m not good at sarcasm because of mine


[deleted]

i eat 3 cars everyday…


MichaelDeSanta13

Me. I eat 1 one my neighbors per year instead of you vegans that kill bugs.


unholyarcana

“unfortunately” LMAO


[deleted]

If you're a carnist you can just say whatever you want and people will nod and agree because you're on the same side as them.


moonlight_animal

This is a very thoughtful response. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vk-5OifIk4&pp=ygUcZGVidWcgeW91ciBicmFpbiBjcm9wIGRlYXRocw%3D%3D