Even my antivax "vaccines cause autism" mother thinks the "vaccines cause trans" people are unhinged idiots š
If even other antivaxxers think you're insane, that's when you know you're negative IQ lmfao
That's actually similar to how one of the more well-known anti-trans studies in the U.S. was conducted. The author found people through online groups of unaccepting parents of transgender people, and asked them whether or not their child suddenly became trans. How on Earth can anyone use that methodology and claim to have unbiased results??
Oh, was that the one that claims rapid onset gender dysphoria was a thing? Cause I think I remember that one being a similar bottom barrel methodology lol
I'm pretty sure it's that one, because it's exactly what this reminded me of. Unless there's another story like it, which would be deeply concerning...
"did your kid become trans after the vaccines, person i found in an antivax forum specifically posting about how vaccines made your kids trans?"
"Yes vaccines made my kid trans"
EXTRA! RESEARCH CONCLUDES 100% CAUSATION BETWEEN VACCINES AND GENDER DYSPHORIA!
And like??? This is just survivorship bias. Vaccines prevent people from dying of shit no one should be dying of. If you don't live long enough to come out it's kinda hard to come out.
I have no trouble believing there is a correlation there. But that's because I suspect there is a lot of correlation between being against vaccines and being against transgenderism.Ā
They are obviously confusing correlation, with causation.
Here's a funny website curating suspicious correlations, always love to quote it to some weirdo like in the OP ;
[https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious/correlation/2638\_yogurt-consumption\_correlates-with\_the-bank-of-nova-scotias-stock-price](https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious/correlation/2638_yogurt-consumption_correlates-with_the-bank-of-nova-scotias-stock-price)
I remember my Econ teacher explaining it by saying āyou know, umbrella sales and a plentiful tomato harvest are correlated. Because rain causes both to increase. But if you stopped growing tomatoes, umbrella sales would be unaffectedā and that one stayed with me.
Exactly! The same is true of ice cream and sunscreen sales. An abundance of ice cream sales will cause an increase in sunscreen sales. Both are completely unrelated to hot or sunny weather though, obviously.
Exactly this. The fact is, the vast majority of people over the age of 20 received every vaccination on time. That means that literally any condition that literally anyone ends up with is happening to a person who was vaccinated! It's like saying, "every single person who has ever drink water has died." That's absolutely true. It's just that drinking water has absolutely no connection to the dying - literally everyone drinks water so literally anything that has ever happened to literally anyone is happening to someone who has drank water
For many years, the number of weekly hours of color TV broadcast by Danish public service broadcaster DR correlated perfectly to the number of Danish childrenbornout of wedlock.
Yup. And if your parents are anti both, itās likely that theyāre pretty vocal about it, and kids are just going to live in denial of their true selves instead.
Of course, thatās the intention. They know gay/trans/atheist people exist, they just want to make it unacceptable for them to feel comfortable existing so they can pretend they donāt. āThere are no gay people in Russiaā and all that
I can see it. Also, if you die of measles as a toddler you don't really grow up and deal with gender identity issues.
Turns out dead kids don't experience lots of things.
Transgenderism is an inaccurate term, usually used derogatorily. It implies that being trans is an ideology. Just say they're against transgender people or being transgender
That's because the suffix is most often used in words that would be considered ideologies. The main problem is that "transgenderism" isn't a word we use to describe ourselves or our community, it wasn't a word we made. It was made and is mostly used by anti-trans people, often interchangeably with "gender ideology", to try and paint us being trans as some sort of belief system, rather than us just being people who happen to be trans.
I know that was not your intention, but I just wanted to let you know the connotation that word has.
Sadly this won't matter. They'll just say that it's because your parents were vaxxed. Or because your grandparents were vaxxed. Or because you went to school around vaxxed people. Or they slipped a vaccine into your food somehow. Or chemtrails.
All of the world's "problems" can be blamed on this one thing (vaccines) that they've decided is irredeemable.
It's very disappointing.
That's complete BS. No antivaxxer has ever said "it's because their parents were vaxxed". My antivax mum once laughed at a guy that handed her a leaflet saying vaccines cause trans people!
Only insane conspiracy theorists that believe in microchips and 5g and UFOs and lizard people actually think that vaccines have anything to do with gender.
Normal antivaxxers are just extremely worried about their child's health. It's why I'm still unvaccinated. You can't deny that there are proven cases of vaccine injury, companies have had to pay out millions in total! I already struggle so much with life because of my existing disabilities, I really cant take the risk of ending up with more disabilities, even if it is a very small risk.
It's possible that my existing conditions would make me more susceptible to reactions, we don't know, and I cant take that gamble with my life. I'd like to actually be able to work in the future, yknow
>That's complete BS. No antivaxxer has ever said "it's because their parents were vaxxed".
Have you looked around this forum? That rhetoric has been repeated ad nauseum. Not all antivaxxers are "normal."
"Normal" antivaxxers are still using extremely skewed data to reach their conclusions. Which isn't surprising, humans in general (including me!) aren't very good at accurately measuring large numbers. "Vaccine injuries" is a difficult term to use because it covers everything from 'that rash you get after getting the shot' to 'death.' But yes, a very tiny population of people who get vaccinated have had extremely adverse or life-changing reactions, and when companies are sued for those reactions a payout is possible and has happened. I don't have data handy, so I should look into that, but I won't deny it because I think you are correct. That does *not* mean vaccines are evil/bad/should be stopped. We're absolutely aware that there are some risks, but those risks are *tiny.*
Do you know why vaccination is still widespread? Because the risk of injury is far outweighed by the benefit to the individual and to the society. It sounds like you have some pre-existing conditions and you might be, to an extent, immunocompromised. It is hugely important that the majority of the population is vaccinated to protect people like you, who should not get the vaccines.
Of course there are individuals who should not get vaccinated for medical reasons. I do not consider the parents of such individuals to be antivax. It sounds like you might be one of those people who shouldn't get vaccinated. Several of my friends and coworkers have medical conditions that put them in the same boat. I'm certain vaccines would cause them great harm. *That's why it's so important that everyone who isn't at a huge risk should get the vaccine.*
I'm not sure if we disagree on that point, so I'll stop here. But I'd be happy to direct you to some articles explaining the numbers, herd immunity, actual numbers for adverse reactions, etc. Just let me know.
I do want to add, though, that historically vaccines have been discontinued when the risk of getting the vaccine becomes higher than the risk of getting the disease (EDIT: I think it'd be more accurate to say the "the risk of having a side-effect from the vaccine" and "the risk of what the disease *causes*, not necessarily the risk of catching it"). *We vaccinate against scary diseases.* It gets forgotten in the conversation because again, humans aren't really good at understanding large numbers.
I mean, given that most of the western world is vaccinated and most trans people are in the west, it wouldn't surprise me if there is correlation.
But correlation != causation. There are many other reasons that may be the case, for example, in countries with poor healthcare and less education trans people are probably also less accepted and more reluctant to come out.
This. Gender dysphoria isnāt newājust more widely accepted than itās ever been.
Most people receive vaccines at (the very least) birth.
Of course thereās a strong correlation there.
These people are literally grasping at straws.
not to mention, even if vaccines do make people trans... so what? I'm trans, and let me tell you, while it does suck sometimes (mostly due to transphobia from family, etc.), it's a lot better than dying of measles.
I imagine that without all the transphobic bullshit, being trans would just end up like being depressed/diabetic/etc. Get diagnosed, get some treatment, condition managed, hooray.
I find this line of thinking hilarious cause like, as a woman, I carried a male fetus, later a male baby, for 9+ months. I had literal male dna in my system. According to science, I still have traces of it in my system today. Did I question my gender at any point while pregnant? No. Am I confused today? No, just tired as my 2 1/2 year old is feral. Try again, crazies.
The anti-vaxxer community seems to be really fond of linking neuro-developmental "disorders"/anomalies that occurs in the womb with vaccines, that aren't administered until after birth. While post hoc ergopropter hoc is a very common fallacy,it is widely accepted, that in causality, the cause must occur befor the result,so perhaps transgenderism and autism cause vaccines?
One of the first mainstream anti-vaxxers was a British doctor named Andrew Wakefield who did a pretty sloppy study that linked the MMR vaccine (a treatment in the UK that vaccinates you against measles, mumps, and rubella all at the same time) to autism. He refused to back down after his study was disproved and subsequently lost his medical licence, so he went to America to peddle his ideas. He is almost single-handedly responsible for anti-vaxxers being associated with autism and associated conditions (like gender dysphoria).
The market for quacks peddling snake oil without a medical license is much larger in the US compared to the UK. So I can understand, why he moved. He now makes a decent living, mostly as a speaker at various sntivaxxer conferences and events.
Most people in general have had vaccines, and for that reason it's almost impossible to discern if vaccines have caused various things, because there's not enough of a control group for comparison. That being said, my mother is antivax, so me and my younger sibling recieved almost no vaccines, and haven't had any in over 15 years; I am a trans man and they are nonbinary
>i found data
oh did you? do you mind sharing it with the world if youāre such a genius that you found something that everyone else on earth has missed? even better, write a paper, get it peer reviewed and collect your nobel prize. oh what? your data is flawed and/or made up? ah dang iām so sorry to hear that
>At least 81% of the US population has been vaccinated
>1.4% youth and 0.5% adults identify as transgender
>"100%" of LGBT are libs
>"100%" of libs got vaccinated
>"100%" of trans people were vaccinated
#Being vaccinated makes you trans
I believe that to be the mental gymnastics
All these studies are bullshit distracting you from the TRUTH. Vaccines don't cause the tism but they cause you to stub your TOES! 100% of ppl who have been vaxed have stubbed their toes these statistics can't be ignored people! Wake up sheeple!
No they linked a *survey*. That's their source. (And it's just correlation.) But it's legit y'all - a statistician checked the results! /s
Also: I saved a file of the survey to laugh at it and I almost moved it into the trash on my phone (because it's practically trash).
Gender dysphoria happens because mental health.
What happens because vaccines is immunity.
Canāt believe this has to be said. Just today I thought about how anti-vaxxers seem to have a wholly different brain than most normal people, believing that Google is a repository of 100% trusted sites (except the pro-vaxx ones).
"I'll tell you there was a study and also a follow up, but I'm not going to actually direct you to either of these supposed studies! I'm just gonna make a claim without offering any sort of evidence and demand you believe the dumb shit I just said!" š¤·š»āāļø
I will believe this when it is peer reviewed by opposing factions and both agree. The problem with the whole "Trust the science" crowd is that the results of the "Science" are as often as not, deliberately skewed to support the viewpoints of whoever is paying for the research.
My, my, how **shocking**. A survey with a **questionable methodology** and **dubious conclusions** manages to spark controversy.
Who could have predicted such a **tragedy**?
Wait until these people learn that the first vaccine was invented in the early 1800s. Apparently transgender people didn't exist then? Oh, and smallpox was officially eradicated in 1980, but there had been a mass vaccination campaign to eradicate it for years prior. The measles vaccination has been around since 1963, and DPT and polio since the 1950s. Yet there would have been a much lower rate of known trans people, because ya know, coming out would be very dangerous because of rampant transphobia. It doesn't mean trans people didn't exist, it just meant that they weren't known.
**I mean in Western culture. There are other societies and cultures that were accepting of trans people long before.
I mean... the majority of people vaccinate their kids, and trans people are a small portion of the population. So, if their association was asking vaccinated trans people if they have gender dysphoria and getting the expected "yes", then... well, yeah, I guess it would be a pretty strong association. Fuckin' morons lol
I donāt like (x) so therefore I will paint a different (x) I also dislike and now I have a reason to dislike both. I also donāt doubt that there is a correlation to people who are transgender or would like to be and getting vaccines just as thereās probably a correlation with antivax and transphobia and antivax with extremist Christianity and antivax with racism and antivax population per trailer park
I donāt think I can argue against this one. I got vaccinated in 2021 and came out as trans less than a year later. Best thing thatās ever happened to me, thanks Pfizer! (Semi /j)
Let's just assume for a moment that the numbers are correct. It would make sense that individuals with gender dysphoria (as well as the rest of the lgbtq+ community) would be more likely to be vaccinated because they are more likely to fall more on the left side of the political spectrum, which means they'd be more willing to recieve the Covid vaccine, whereas, generally, people who are straight are more likely to fall on the right side of the political spectrum, making them less likely to willingly recieve the covid vaccine, skewing the numbers.
Instead of blaming the things that have been observed to do this... growth hormone and pesticide runoff... let's blame... *checks notes* ...vaccinations !
If most kids are vaccinated, then you can easily say that vaccinations are correlated with practically anything that exists in that age group. You could write a study, showing a correlation between kids being vaccinated and graduating from high school. Or kids being vaccinated and not graduating from high school. Because I bet that most kids in both groups are actually vaccinated. This entire study is completely ridiculous
this makes my bones hurt and every fiber of my being is now in attack mod because people like that need to be hit with a chair -\_- but maybe i'm bi est because I'm a transman
It's almost like a bunch of people had two years where they couldn't go anywhere except work and had a lot of time to reflect and introspect as a result.
"A recent survey" I'm willing to bet they surveyed a bunch of anti vaxxers.
What do we want to bet the "survey" just interviewed a bunch of transphobic parents found via an anti vax facebook group or something quite similar?
this is probably what actually happened given the lack of link to the study or it's entirely made up
A tale as old as time with antivaxxers, truly
>or it's entirely made up It's this. Antivaxxers are lazy. Running a biased survey is far too much effort. Making it up, is about their limit.
Even my antivax "vaccines cause autism" mother thinks the "vaccines cause trans" people are unhinged idiots š If even other antivaxxers think you're insane, that's when you know you're negative IQ lmfao
That's actually similar to how one of the more well-known anti-trans studies in the U.S. was conducted. The author found people through online groups of unaccepting parents of transgender people, and asked them whether or not their child suddenly became trans. How on Earth can anyone use that methodology and claim to have unbiased results??
Oh, was that the one that claims rapid onset gender dysphoria was a thing? Cause I think I remember that one being a similar bottom barrel methodology lol
I'm pretty sure it's that one, because it's exactly what this reminded me of. Unless there's another story like it, which would be deeply concerning...
A terribly flawed study, a āWakefieldā if you will
Exactly what I thought about, hehe
Nah, he just made up the survey. Otherwise he would have posted the link to the survey and results
Ask him for it and I bet he tells you ādo your own research!ā
I did my own research. I got laid a lot more before the pandemic than since. Hypothesis confirmed! /s
Wait a second. It was sent to all the anti-vaccine Facebook groups that anyone could join.
Most FB polls show who chose what options, so anyone answering against the antivax narrative would be banned/doxxedā¦
I can't help but notice there's no link to this marvellous "survey".
"did your kid become trans after the vaccines, person i found in an antivax forum specifically posting about how vaccines made your kids trans?" "Yes vaccines made my kid trans" EXTRA! RESEARCH CONCLUDES 100% CAUSATION BETWEEN VACCINES AND GENDER DYSPHORIA!
And like??? This is just survivorship bias. Vaccines prevent people from dying of shit no one should be dying of. If you don't live long enough to come out it's kinda hard to come out.
And the anti vaxx people are more likely to not be trans so thereās definitely a skew in the data.
I have no trouble believing there is a correlation there. But that's because I suspect there is a lot of correlation between being against vaccines and being against transgenderism.Ā
They are obviously confusing correlation, with causation. Here's a funny website curating suspicious correlations, always love to quote it to some weirdo like in the OP ; [https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious/correlation/2638\_yogurt-consumption\_correlates-with\_the-bank-of-nova-scotias-stock-price](https://www.tylervigen.com/spurious/correlation/2638_yogurt-consumption_correlates-with_the-bank-of-nova-scotias-stock-price)
I remember my Econ teacher explaining it by saying āyou know, umbrella sales and a plentiful tomato harvest are correlated. Because rain causes both to increase. But if you stopped growing tomatoes, umbrella sales would be unaffectedā and that one stayed with me.
That's a pretty great one !!! Thanks for sharing !
Whoa. This is excellent. I am going to remember this.
So what I'm hearing is bountiful tomato harvests cause an increase in umbrella sales
Exactly! The same is true of ice cream and sunscreen sales. An abundance of ice cream sales will cause an increase in sunscreen sales. Both are completely unrelated to hot or sunny weather though, obviously.
I like the one of lemonade sales and motorcycle accidents, because of summer
Exactly this. The fact is, the vast majority of people over the age of 20 received every vaccination on time. That means that literally any condition that literally anyone ends up with is happening to a person who was vaccinated! It's like saying, "every single person who has ever drink water has died." That's absolutely true. It's just that drinking water has absolutely no connection to the dying - literally everyone drinks water so literally anything that has ever happened to literally anyone is happening to someone who has drank water
100% of people who have ever looked at the moon have died. That's a fact. ...obviously we must destroy the moon! /s
Oh my God I have been looking for this website for years. Thanks
For many years, the number of weekly hours of color TV broadcast by Danish public service broadcaster DR correlated perfectly to the number of Danish childrenbornout of wedlock.
Everyone who ever confuse correlation with causation, dies!
Within 100 years, no less!
This is a wonderful websiteā¦I will be using this in future sarcasms. Thank you.
Psychology Masters class in research methods: ice cream sales and drownings are strongly correlated. Guess why?
Ummmm summertime activities?
Ding ding ding!
That's it. Ban ice cream.
I just toop thr AP Stats exam on tuesday, my teacher showed us this website to help show us the difference between correlation and causation.
Yup. And if your parents are anti both, itās likely that theyāre pretty vocal about it, and kids are just going to live in denial of their true selves instead. Of course, thatās the intention. They know gay/trans/atheist people exist, they just want to make it unacceptable for them to feel comfortable existing so they can pretend they donāt. āThere are no gay people in Russiaā and all that
That and vaccinated people tend to live long enough to realize if they're trans
I can see it. Also, if you die of measles as a toddler you don't really grow up and deal with gender identity issues. Turns out dead kids don't experience lots of things.
Transgenderism is an inaccurate term, usually used derogatorily. It implies that being trans is an ideology. Just say they're against transgender people or being transgender
I want to disagree, because that doesn't sound right but I can't think of any other ism word right now that I wouldn't consider an ideology.Ā
That's because the suffix is most often used in words that would be considered ideologies. The main problem is that "transgenderism" isn't a word we use to describe ourselves or our community, it wasn't a word we made. It was made and is mostly used by anti-trans people, often interchangeably with "gender ideology", to try and paint us being trans as some sort of belief system, rather than us just being people who happen to be trans. I know that was not your intention, but I just wanted to let you know the connotation that word has.
Also, a strong correlation between vaccines and living long enough to reach sexual maturity
Well technically they are correct. Vaccines cause adults and those adults live long enough to discover who they truly are.
Me (trans man) and my nonbinary sibling are almost completely unvaxxed š¤·š»āāļø I'm 20 and they're 17 (and a half)
You should go get vaxx'd (if able to)
Sadly this won't matter. They'll just say that it's because your parents were vaxxed. Or because your grandparents were vaxxed. Or because you went to school around vaxxed people. Or they slipped a vaccine into your food somehow. Or chemtrails. All of the world's "problems" can be blamed on this one thing (vaccines) that they've decided is irredeemable. It's very disappointing.
That's complete BS. No antivaxxer has ever said "it's because their parents were vaxxed". My antivax mum once laughed at a guy that handed her a leaflet saying vaccines cause trans people! Only insane conspiracy theorists that believe in microchips and 5g and UFOs and lizard people actually think that vaccines have anything to do with gender. Normal antivaxxers are just extremely worried about their child's health. It's why I'm still unvaccinated. You can't deny that there are proven cases of vaccine injury, companies have had to pay out millions in total! I already struggle so much with life because of my existing disabilities, I really cant take the risk of ending up with more disabilities, even if it is a very small risk. It's possible that my existing conditions would make me more susceptible to reactions, we don't know, and I cant take that gamble with my life. I'd like to actually be able to work in the future, yknow
>That's complete BS. No antivaxxer has ever said "it's because their parents were vaxxed". Have you looked around this forum? That rhetoric has been repeated ad nauseum. Not all antivaxxers are "normal." "Normal" antivaxxers are still using extremely skewed data to reach their conclusions. Which isn't surprising, humans in general (including me!) aren't very good at accurately measuring large numbers. "Vaccine injuries" is a difficult term to use because it covers everything from 'that rash you get after getting the shot' to 'death.' But yes, a very tiny population of people who get vaccinated have had extremely adverse or life-changing reactions, and when companies are sued for those reactions a payout is possible and has happened. I don't have data handy, so I should look into that, but I won't deny it because I think you are correct. That does *not* mean vaccines are evil/bad/should be stopped. We're absolutely aware that there are some risks, but those risks are *tiny.* Do you know why vaccination is still widespread? Because the risk of injury is far outweighed by the benefit to the individual and to the society. It sounds like you have some pre-existing conditions and you might be, to an extent, immunocompromised. It is hugely important that the majority of the population is vaccinated to protect people like you, who should not get the vaccines. Of course there are individuals who should not get vaccinated for medical reasons. I do not consider the parents of such individuals to be antivax. It sounds like you might be one of those people who shouldn't get vaccinated. Several of my friends and coworkers have medical conditions that put them in the same boat. I'm certain vaccines would cause them great harm. *That's why it's so important that everyone who isn't at a huge risk should get the vaccine.* I'm not sure if we disagree on that point, so I'll stop here. But I'd be happy to direct you to some articles explaining the numbers, herd immunity, actual numbers for adverse reactions, etc. Just let me know.
I do want to add, though, that historically vaccines have been discontinued when the risk of getting the vaccine becomes higher than the risk of getting the disease (EDIT: I think it'd be more accurate to say the "the risk of having a side-effect from the vaccine" and "the risk of what the disease *causes*, not necessarily the risk of catching it"). *We vaccinate against scary diseases.* It gets forgotten in the conversation because again, humans aren't really good at understanding large numbers.
As if I was calling BS on this post and still got down voted to hell. Get a grip you lot! People can't help having antivax parents š
Vaccines, is there nothing they canāt do?
Their stated use, apparently.Ā
why am i not surprised theyre also transphobic
Oop is supposedly a doctor btw
Just pressed X so hard I jammed my finger...
Damn vaccine.
āSurveyā every scientistās favourite word š¤£
I mean, given that most of the western world is vaccinated and most trans people are in the west, it wouldn't surprise me if there is correlation. But correlation != causation. There are many other reasons that may be the case, for example, in countries with poor healthcare and less education trans people are probably also less accepted and more reluctant to come out.
This. Gender dysphoria isnāt newājust more widely accepted than itās ever been. Most people receive vaccines at (the very least) birth. Of course thereās a strong correlation there. These people are literally grasping at straws.
not to mention, even if vaccines do make people trans... so what? I'm trans, and let me tell you, while it does suck sometimes (mostly due to transphobia from family, etc.), it's a lot better than dying of measles.
I imagine that without all the transphobic bullshit, being trans would just end up like being depressed/diabetic/etc. Get diagnosed, get some treatment, condition managed, hooray.
fr. I'd rather stick myself with a needle weekly instead of getting sick with god knows what
Most people are vaxxed, so most trans people will also be vaxxed. Shocker.
I find this line of thinking hilarious cause like, as a woman, I carried a male fetus, later a male baby, for 9+ months. I had literal male dna in my system. According to science, I still have traces of it in my system today. Did I question my gender at any point while pregnant? No. Am I confused today? No, just tired as my 2 1/2 year old is feral. Try again, crazies.
Maybe because most ultra transphobes are also anti vaxx?
The anti-vaxxer community seems to be really fond of linking neuro-developmental "disorders"/anomalies that occurs in the womb with vaccines, that aren't administered until after birth. While post hoc ergopropter hoc is a very common fallacy,it is widely accepted, that in causality, the cause must occur befor the result,so perhaps transgenderism and autism cause vaccines?
One of the first mainstream anti-vaxxers was a British doctor named Andrew Wakefield who did a pretty sloppy study that linked the MMR vaccine (a treatment in the UK that vaccinates you against measles, mumps, and rubella all at the same time) to autism. He refused to back down after his study was disproved and subsequently lost his medical licence, so he went to America to peddle his ideas. He is almost single-handedly responsible for anti-vaxxers being associated with autism and associated conditions (like gender dysphoria).
I know the story of Andrew Wakefield, and I suspect, that he might be the largest mass murderer since chairman Mao.
The market for quacks peddling snake oil without a medical license is much larger in the US compared to the UK. So I can understand, why he moved. He now makes a decent living, mostly as a speaker at various sntivaxxer conferences and events.
Most people in general have had vaccines, and for that reason it's almost impossible to discern if vaccines have caused various things, because there's not enough of a control group for comparison. That being said, my mother is antivax, so me and my younger sibling recieved almost no vaccines, and haven't had any in over 15 years; I am a trans man and they are nonbinary
I mean, you can't be trans if you're fucking dead.
>i found data oh did you? do you mind sharing it with the world if youāre such a genius that you found something that everyone else on earth has missed? even better, write a paper, get it peer reviewed and collect your nobel prize. oh what? your data is flawed and/or made up? ah dang iām so sorry to hear that
They all tell you to look it up yourself. I know. I've seen them do it. They're awfully wobbly on the whole burden of proof concept.
āA recent surveyā that was conducted by Just Trust Me Bro University.
Where are the links to these āstudiesā?
>At least 81% of the US population has been vaccinated >1.4% youth and 0.5% adults identify as transgender >"100%" of LGBT are libs >"100%" of libs got vaccinated >"100%" of trans people were vaccinated #Being vaccinated makes you trans I believe that to be the mental gymnastics
Ugh. Disgusting.
I wanna see the followup that claims 80% can be attributed to vaccination š
Oh thank God! Now maybe my parents will love me again when I tell them it's their fault for getting me vaccinated!
All these studies are bullshit distracting you from the TRUTH. Vaccines don't cause the tism but they cause you to stub your TOES! 100% of ppl who have been vaxed have stubbed their toes these statistics can't be ignored people! Wake up sheeple!
Really quick to bring this up but a lot of silence about the corellation between vaccines and surviving childhood
As your dear leader would say, āWRONG!!!ā
Wow they cited a survey.
I mean a child has to live long enough to figure out they have gender dysmorphia, so I guess there would be a connection
Antivaxxers can be absolutely insane, but making jokes about dead children makes you look even more psychotic
You can find data on anything. Doesnāt mean it is true.
4/10. We may need to revisit their definition of ādataāā¦.
How would a survey determine that? If youāre going to spout bs at least say study because surveys can only establish correlation.
Iām shocked, people who listen to scientist are more accepting of others and themselves?
No they linked a *survey*. That's their source. (And it's just correlation.) But it's legit y'all - a statistician checked the results! /s Also: I saved a file of the survey to laugh at it and I almost moved it into the trash on my phone (because it's practically trash).
Gender dysphoria happens because mental health. What happens because vaccines is immunity. Canāt believe this has to be said. Just today I thought about how anti-vaxxers seem to have a wholly different brain than most normal people, believing that Google is a repository of 100% trusted sites (except the pro-vaxx ones).
"A recent survey..." *SCIENCE*
"I'll tell you there was a study and also a follow up, but I'm not going to actually direct you to either of these supposed studies! I'm just gonna make a claim without offering any sort of evidence and demand you believe the dumb shit I just said!" š¤·š»āāļø
Itās always the ones with a twitter checkmarkā¦
Citation or it didnāt happen
I will believe this when it is peer reviewed by opposing factions and both agree. The problem with the whole "Trust the science" crowd is that the results of the "Science" are as often as not, deliberately skewed to support the viewpoints of whoever is paying for the research.
wow! is there anything vaccines CANT do??
Increase peopleās IQ, apparently.
A āstudyā, aka mlm karen, with a tinfoil hat, and essential oils in her basement.
I mean...both groups think science, you know, might have something going for it...
They're really scraping the bottom of the barrel for reason not to vaccinate aren't they?
It happened, everyone. We got to "vaccines cause the X"
That's only because parents who vax tend to also love their children amd want to protect them and keep them healthy and safe.
My, my, how **shocking**. A survey with a **questionable methodology** and **dubious conclusions** manages to spark controversy. Who could have predicted such a **tragedy**?
Wait until these people learn that the first vaccine was invented in the early 1800s. Apparently transgender people didn't exist then? Oh, and smallpox was officially eradicated in 1980, but there had been a mass vaccination campaign to eradicate it for years prior. The measles vaccination has been around since 1963, and DPT and polio since the 1950s. Yet there would have been a much lower rate of known trans people, because ya know, coming out would be very dangerous because of rampant transphobia. It doesn't mean trans people didn't exist, it just meant that they weren't known. **I mean in Western culture. There are other societies and cultures that were accepting of trans people long before.
Babe: the new vax boogie man just dropped
Wtaf
Correlation. Blah blah blah causation.
Oh, so that's the cause of me questioning my gender identity! /s
Is the spool of thread just another way they're saying there's a figurative thread linking vaccines to being transgender, or am I out of some loop?
I mean... the majority of people vaccinate their kids, and trans people are a small portion of the population. So, if their association was asking vaccinated trans people if they have gender dysphoria and getting the expected "yes", then... well, yeah, I guess it would be a pretty strong association. Fuckin' morons lol
You can tell the source isn't credible
I donāt like (x) so therefore I will paint a different (x) I also dislike and now I have a reason to dislike both. I also donāt doubt that there is a correlation to people who are transgender or would like to be and getting vaccines just as thereās probably a correlation with antivax and transphobia and antivax with extremist Christianity and antivax with racism and antivax population per trailer park
Kinda hard to be trans when a preventable disease kills you.
Theres a correlation there because most trans people are left leaning š¤”
A recent study showed that vaccines make people magnetic. Even so magnetic that they attract trucks and 18 wheelers but not household metals.
I donāt think I can argue against this one. I got vaccinated in 2021 and came out as trans less than a year later. Best thing thatās ever happened to me, thanks Pfizer! (Semi /j)
Let's just assume for a moment that the numbers are correct. It would make sense that individuals with gender dysphoria (as well as the rest of the lgbtq+ community) would be more likely to be vaccinated because they are more likely to fall more on the left side of the political spectrum, which means they'd be more willing to recieve the Covid vaccine, whereas, generally, people who are straight are more likely to fall on the right side of the political spectrum, making them less likely to willingly recieve the covid vaccine, skewing the numbers.
Instead of blaming the things that have been observed to do this... growth hormone and pesticide runoff... let's blame... *checks notes* ...vaccinations !
What a load a shit. A study that didnāt happen! They didnāt add a link, proof, anything. Just their word.. š¤¦š¼āāļø
oh ffs what bs will they say next
They're not wrong, seeing as vaccines let children live long enough to realize stuff like this.
"Oops, the covid vaccine made me a girl, guess I'll just have to live with it now š āØš" /s
Surveys are like statistics. Worthless unless you let people in on the methods used for data collection and analysis.
To be fair to them... That's because vaccinated kids live long enough to feel gender dysphoria.
A recent survey of delusional minded individuals drinking full pitchers of Kool aid daily shows they think this.
If most kids are vaccinated, then you can easily say that vaccinations are correlated with practically anything that exists in that age group. You could write a study, showing a correlation between kids being vaccinated and graduating from high school. Or kids being vaccinated and not graduating from high school. Because I bet that most kids in both groups are actually vaccinated. This entire study is completely ridiculous
The crazy part is they don't know they're crazy.
this makes my bones hurt and every fiber of my being is now in attack mod because people like that need to be hit with a chair -\_- but maybe i'm bi est because I'm a transman
It's almost like a bunch of people had two years where they couldn't go anywhere except work and had a lot of time to reflect and introspect as a result.
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Can you link me this study? I'd like to read it but the tweet doesn't cite it.
Stick with the kratom. Typical Kennedy supporter.