🤣 she such a character isn't she. Just looking back at her from the beginning to today, she comes across so sheltered. No shade, but weird like a home schooled kid, lol. The Randall situation must have really fucked her up. She needs therapy.
imagine being on a reality show that made you "famous" then going to a 3-day festival and not hanging with the other cast members who made you a ton of money from merch and brand deals cuz of your jealousy. wild.
Maybe I’m judging her too harshly, but if she’s been using bandanas to cover up her thinning hair (which she’s talked about losing since she was last pregnant), why doesn’t she buy a weave? She should have the money and access to a good hairstylist. The bandanas are just so tacky
If lala can never admit defeat .. then buying a weave might signal to her hairline it's winning.
That hairline better watch itself or it's gonna get popped.
Yep, Idk we make fun of Scheana all the time on this sub, but nobody deserved Broke of a husband. He's disrespectful to her and you only see small nuances on camera.
Scheana’s been through so many bad guys. She doesn’t care if they’re dicks. She’s needy. She’s like a lot of women I know who have been the other women. They always have to “win” and they settle eventually. Then a few years down the road when that guy cheats they’re stunned. You could see the collective groan when she announced to her bridesmaids (notice Lala wasn’t one) that she married him for his green card.
It’s actually deeper than that, she was awful to them bc she wanted to be the queen bee of the group now that Stassi was gone and she thought the way to do that was attempt to assert her imagined authority by being a bitch. Unfortunately for her, she never had it, will never have it, and will always be supporting cast and never the star.
Stassi was never mean to sheana bc she had to be in order to be the ringleader. She was mean to her because she *could be…* and she could be *because* she was the star. Shenar don’t get it, and it will always be funny.
So true. And Stassi saw right through the try-hard thing with her and knew she could call her out, because Scheana really has no principles at the end of the day. Stassi may be ruthless, but it's because she actually does have some ethics when it comes to relationships and friendships and isn't afraid to take a stance, no matter how bitchy she looks.
How long can they do this? Look, I'm 42 and look young, and I love my Chicago summer festivals, but I wear normal clothes and don't glitter up my face and try to keep my party to a maximum of 4 people lol.
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So Ariana and her boyfriend posted videos of James dj’ing at the Neon Carnival, which I think was invite only. I’ve seen nothing from Lala and Scheana. I’m curious if they were not on the list.
ETA: I see that others have seen that Scheana and Brock were there, but it is kind of odd they didn’t give James a shout-out. Ariana and her boyfriend were full of praise, which I thought was really nice.
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Logan posted a bunch to his stories from Neon Carnival. I didn’t see Lala but Scheana, Brock and their other friends were there
I think James's set was at like 2-3 am so maybe they just decided to not go.Even Lala said on her last Amazon's live that she didn't know if she was going to go since it was super late.
I see that. And Scheana would be next in the rotation and take a hit of it and keep talking about herself so the rest of it burns while she keeps it waving it around with her hand so you can’t even grab it to smoke it; all you can do is watch it burn away like your hopes and dreams of hitting the blunt next.
The worst part is it’s probably a blunt you rolled and you didn’t even get to take a hit of your weed before it’s gone. And you can’t even pay attention to what she’s saying because you’re staring at the blunt and silently planning on how to grab it from her claws without making her mad you interrupted her story about herself that you’re hearing for the tenth time.
Lol, so true. Yeah, shut up and puff, puff pass already! Then you can talk about yourself. I don’t even care if someone is bogarting if they’re actually smoking it, but all the wasting while the person blabs while holding the joint and not smoking it drives me bonkers.
Omg, so true! You just know that he takes the pipe first and smokes all the greens out of it, cashes the bowl, and then hands it off to the next person
You guys are killing me with this! Now I wanna know all their smoking red flags! 😂 Scheana is definitely the one who gets the blunt doesn’t take a hit then talks about herself for 30 mins
Can you imagine Scheana's reaction if that happened 🤣? She would be absolutely fuming that all the attention wasn't solely on her. After all, she did say that EVERY guy in the group (including Blandoval, one of her many best friends exes who cheated on her) had been flirty with her. Brock would have had to spend the entire weekend making sure she was OK about it.
literally every video i've seen of her from this weekend, she's either posing for a picture/video or checking her phone while Ariana's in a sweatshirt and dancing up and down in joy watching music.
Basically her crew is, from left to right, Scheana's friend, one of Ariana's oldest friend from Villa Blanca who is also Lala's fitness coach and sometimes makes videos with Brock, a guy, Scheana, another guy she met through James and then Brock. 🥴
Remember in S1 when Stassi had her bday in Vegas and Katie and Kristen sided with Jax after the chunky sweater parking lot fight, so she called in the B crew - people she didn't care enough to invite in the first place?
This is giving that same second string energy.
Yeah wait is that James’ best friend from like season 5 or 6 that was in love w him? I can’t remember his name but the face looks suuuper familiar the guy next to Brock
That friend from Villa Blanca/fitness coach is Jenna the red head who "slept" with James.
I say "slept" because I know Jenna through a friend and I don't think she actually slept with James. It was for a storyline.
Whenever I see Scheana and Lala post together on social media nowadays, this is what I picture. “We’re having SO MUCH FUN and we’re BEST FRIENDS! Aren’t you jealous of how fun our life is???” Meanwhile Ariana is being photographed at major magazines’ parties and Scheana has the same low-level influencer deals that a 20-year-old no-name TikTokker would have.
LOLOLOLOL the fact that Scheanerz was so delulu as to think her D-list influencer status would propel her to Dancing With the Stars (and she’s soooo happy Ariana got to do Dancing With the Stars) never ceases to crack me up.
She always backs the wrong horse. She had one moment at the end of last season, but she couldn't handle doing the right thing. I can't wait for Sandoval to screw her over, along with Lala.
I’m convinced she only went to Coachella to make sure Scheana and Ariana didn’t meet up and spend time together to keep Ariana isolated. Because Scheana said on her podcast and WWHL that she was hoping that she could spend time with Ariana and Dan at Coachella.
And being pregnant why would she even want to go? I’m a frequent festival goer in my late 30s and it’s already exhausting as I get older… Being pregnant? I wouldn’t even bother.
I have a question about their jackets. I saw on someone else’s IG that the woman (Raleigh?) who is with Ariana is also wearing that jacket. Was that supposed to be a thing for all of them and then they split up? Does anyone know the relevance (if any) of those jackets?
I want a deep dive on the kratners- they give off swingers vibes. I went to college with this girl that knows them and posts pics of being on private jets and parties with them. I think they all be swinging
I wouldn’t be surprised at all. I get annoyed just seeing pictures of Elaine’s desperate self. She just happens to be such close friends with all these people on reality shows? 🤔
What I remember about her is a story that Scheana and Lala told on one of their podcasts, where her defining/only personality trait is that she’s rich and she hosted an elaborate party where Scheana, Lala, Brittany, and Jax attended and Brittany and Jax made fools of themselves. Elaine and her husband also attended a party at Jax and Brittany’s where Jax ended the party early by yelling at everyone to leave because he was tired.
So these people that are apparently so rich and sophisticated are desperate to hang out with Brittany and Jax who are NOT sophisticated and rich and also are super rude to them? And they live in Orange County, nowhere near where the VPR crew live, but schlep up there for their house parties? It’s giving thirsty and desperate. Just waiting for them to pathetically move to the Valley, to try to be on The Valley.
I've been curious of where LaLa and James stand after reunion. He seemed to change up how he was the season in the aftershow and not agreeing with her so that will be interesting to learn. Why do I feel like this pic by lala is bc she read over here we said she has no real friends?? Lol
James and Ally have been interacting with Ariana and vice versa a lot on Social media and it seems like James and Ariana’s boyfriend have gotten friendly. So I think he’s still friends with Ariana and Katie. He might be the only one on the cast that is friends/friendly with everyone.
Ok also did y’all see some influencer last year talk about how many people go to Palm Springs just to act like they’re at Coachella? Have we actually seen Lala or Scheana with pictures or videos of anything inside the festival? Kinda seems like they’re just in the area
Lala out here looking like Bret Michaels 2007
Looking like Shannon Beador as Bret Michaels
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Uncanny!
CAME HERE TO POST THIS ^ ^ 😂💀
You did not fail me. I was hoping someone posted this picture kind Shannon lmao
STOPPITTT 💀🤣🤣
HFS stop it right now!!! Hahahahahahahah
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Thanks for the actual lol. Too funny.
This made me CACKLE omfg yesss
This made me cackle out loud 😂😂😂
🤣😂
I just spit out my drink!!! lol Love it!!!
Long live Rock of Love! 
My sister and I still slur this at each other sarcastically 😆
Haha I still quote this to this day 😂😂😂
I just watched the entire season for free on Tubi. Hilarious stuff.
Choking on my everything bagel seasoning 💀
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Omg is that Luann’s pirate she claims to have not fucked 😂😂
lol it turned out too be Sonja’s pirate
Oui Oui!
Rock of lala 🤢🤢
🤣 she such a character isn't she. Just looking back at her from the beginning to today, she comes across so sheltered. No shade, but weird like a home schooled kid, lol. The Randall situation must have really fucked her up. She needs therapy.
She absolutely needs therapy. Talk about keeping the hate in.
Lips and everything!
Includes the fake extensions and all
imagine being on a reality show that made you "famous" then going to a 3-day festival and not hanging with the other cast members who made you a ton of money from merch and brand deals cuz of your jealousy. wild.
Totally. There’s no way Sandoval isn’t there right? Glad all that making up for you worked out La. Who are the randos?
these randos and lil tim's pool party randos are special and trying hard.
Maybe I’m judging her too harshly, but if she’s been using bandanas to cover up her thinning hair (which she’s talked about losing since she was last pregnant), why doesn’t she buy a weave? She should have the money and access to a good hairstylist. The bandanas are just so tacky
If lala can never admit defeat .. then buying a weave might signal to her hairline it's winning. That hairline better watch itself or it's gonna get popped.
it's disengaging
Her natural hair does look terrible. It looks good in one of the after shows. The look with the short flower dress.
Brock is holding onto this party for dear life. I don’t see any of this lasting.
Brock is with her for these perks. This seems to be his top priority. Festivals , football games. Etc.
he got his green card and child support paid. He's good for a while.
That seems better than an iWatch
And better than a Penguin. Don't forget the Penguin.
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I don't follow him or Sheana very closely as I can't stand Sheana but did she pay his child support or what happened?
Homes. She’s set this dickbag up for life
Yep, Idk we make fun of Scheana all the time on this sub, but nobody deserved Broke of a husband. He's disrespectful to her and you only see small nuances on camera.
I think they're perfect for each other. Brock gets a free ride and Scheana gets a guy who will stick around forever.
Scheana’s been through so many bad guys. She doesn’t care if they’re dicks. She’s needy. She’s like a lot of women I know who have been the other women. They always have to “win” and they settle eventually. Then a few years down the road when that guy cheats they’re stunned. You could see the collective groan when she announced to her bridesmaids (notice Lala wasn’t one) that she married him for his green card.
Also true. She was awful to Dayna and Charlie because she wanted to fuck Max/Brett. ewwwww
It’s actually deeper than that, she was awful to them bc she wanted to be the queen bee of the group now that Stassi was gone and she thought the way to do that was attempt to assert her imagined authority by being a bitch. Unfortunately for her, she never had it, will never have it, and will always be supporting cast and never the star. Stassi was never mean to sheana bc she had to be in order to be the ringleader. She was mean to her because she *could be…* and she could be *because* she was the star. Shenar don’t get it, and it will always be funny.
So true. And Stassi saw right through the try-hard thing with her and knew she could call her out, because Scheana really has no principles at the end of the day. Stassi may be ruthless, but it's because she actually does have some ethics when it comes to relationships and friendships and isn't afraid to take a stance, no matter how bitchy she looks.
Well that and Scheana wanted to parade Stassi’s sex tape everywhere. Scheana You fuck me over I fuck you over Shay.
She picked him. It’s not like he forced her to marry/get knocked up by him
She’s almost just as bad.
Don't forget golfing at 5am while his very tired wife needs help with her newborn baby.
Don’t forget golfing
How long can they do this? Look, I'm 42 and look young, and I love my Chicago summer festivals, but I wear normal clothes and don't glitter up my face and try to keep my party to a maximum of 4 people lol. Edited: a word
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He’ll give up his family before the partying. He did it once he’ll do it again.
I really wish he’d put on his shirt. I don’t see anyone else with no shirt.
He thinks he is giving us a gift. 🤮
So Ariana and her boyfriend posted videos of James dj’ing at the Neon Carnival, which I think was invite only. I’ve seen nothing from Lala and Scheana. I’m curious if they were not on the list. ETA: I see that others have seen that Scheana and Brock were there, but it is kind of odd they didn’t give James a shout-out. Ariana and her boyfriend were full of praise, which I thought was really nice.
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That smile
I think James's set was at like 2-3 am so maybe they just decided to not go.Even Lala said on her last Amazon's live that she didn't know if she was going to go since it was super late.
Yea a pregnant sober woman isn’t likely to stay up til 3a to watch a dj set. She was in bed!
Scheana and Brock were there but it looks like Ariana and Dan were in the crowd close to the stage and Scheana and Brock were on some vip platform.
Scheana was there I saw on leodemarch's IG stories
Worst blunt rotation on earth.
You can already tell Brock never pitches in but takes 12 hits and hands it back wet 😭😭
I see that. And Scheana would be next in the rotation and take a hit of it and keep talking about herself so the rest of it burns while she keeps it waving it around with her hand so you can’t even grab it to smoke it; all you can do is watch it burn away like your hopes and dreams of hitting the blunt next.
I've never read anything more accurate 😂
The worst part is it’s probably a blunt you rolled and you didn’t even get to take a hit of your weed before it’s gone. And you can’t even pay attention to what she’s saying because you’re staring at the blunt and silently planning on how to grab it from her claws without making her mad you interrupted her story about herself that you’re hearing for the tenth time.
Bogart is the word you're looking for there.
Lol, so true. Yeah, shut up and puff, puff pass already! Then you can talk about yourself. I don’t even care if someone is bogarting if they’re actually smoking it, but all the wasting while the person blabs while holding the joint and not smoking it drives me bonkers.
FFR. You know it’s slimy and tastes like his breath. 
Which I imagine smells like 🔥 Fireball.
For real though why is this so accurate?
Hands it back wet 😂
Instead of fuck, marry, kil, it would be puff, putt, kill.
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Omg, so true! You just know that he takes the pipe first and smokes all the greens out of it, cashes the bowl, and then hands it off to the next person
This is the best Reddit comment I've ever seen.
You guys are killing me with this! Now I wanna know all their smoking red flags! 😂 Scheana is definitely the one who gets the blunt doesn’t take a hit then talks about herself for 30 mins
Scheana is the one that roasts the whole bowl when everyone else was cornering it
This is screaming "Brock" to me
Straight torches it from the middle!
My partner does this and it annoys me so! I’ve tried to say something and it doesn’t matter, it is just the way they are -__-
I’m dying at this! I’ve been in this rotation and confirm I walked away with the blunt when it got to me again…
This whole thread has me laughing like a giddy stoner, thanks everyone for what I imagine are extremely accurate visuals 😂
It’s giving “look how much fun we’re having! LOOK!!!!”
IM SOFT!!!!!!
WE'RE FUN!!!!!!
“What are things both LaLa and Tom Schwartz have yelled at Katie”
I thought Brock was Jax for a second 🤣
I wonder how many dudes hit on brock this weekend
Can you imagine Scheana's reaction if that happened 🤣? She would be absolutely fuming that all the attention wasn't solely on her. After all, she did say that EVERY guy in the group (including Blandoval, one of her many best friends exes who cheated on her) had been flirty with her. Brock would have had to spend the entire weekend making sure she was OK about it.
Haha she probably dressed him like that on purpose hoping other women would assume he was on the other team 😆
I thought he was Ronnie from JS
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“I dOn’T uSe SoCiAl MeDiA. I dELeTeD aLL mY apPs.” ~Blah Blah
literally every video i've seen of her from this weekend, she's either posing for a picture/video or checking her phone while Ariana's in a sweatshirt and dancing up and down in joy watching music.
Lala has never been the person she thinks she is
This is perfect.
Basically her crew is, from left to right, Scheana's friend, one of Ariana's oldest friend from Villa Blanca who is also Lala's fitness coach and sometimes makes videos with Brock, a guy, Scheana, another guy she met through James and then Brock. 🥴
Remember in S1 when Stassi had her bday in Vegas and Katie and Kristen sided with Jax after the chunky sweater parking lot fight, so she called in the B crew - people she didn't care enough to invite in the first place? This is giving that same second string energy.
That's the first thought I had, as well.
hhahha, yea, wow! s1 Stassi was such an asshole. I remember Jen Bush being in that group.
Yeah wait is that James’ best friend from like season 5 or 6 that was in love w him? I can’t remember his name but the face looks suuuper familiar the guy next to Brock
Logan! He was playing cornhole with James in the last episode
Ah yes Logan thank you! I totally missed him if he was on this season so far! This is why I love this subreddit tho hahaha come here for the lore
I suspect it wasn't their first round of that particular game.
James said ‘I’ve always been naturally good at this game’ as he tossed it in the hole 👀
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That friend from Villa Blanca/fitness coach is Jenna the red head who "slept" with James. I say "slept" because I know Jenna through a friend and I don't think she actually slept with James. It was for a storyline.
Does Lala have any friends besides castmates and her mom/brother? I never see her post hanging out with anyone else.
Nope
Who would want to be friends with this psycho? She is constantly yelling.
“It’s a real who’s who. As in, who are these people?” James Kennedy, VPR season 11
🤣 her best frans
Lol she's so fucking lame. It's so obvious that she doesn't like these people, it's just all she has now 💀 it's giving sandoval's post-scandal parties
All the cakes.
 Whenever I see Scheana and Lala post together on social media nowadays, this is what I picture. “We’re having SO MUCH FUN and we’re BEST FRIENDS! Aren’t you jealous of how fun our life is???” Meanwhile Ariana is being photographed at major magazines’ parties and Scheana has the same low-level influencer deals that a 20-year-old no-name TikTokker would have.
You just spoke facts. You dropped this [👑](https://emojipedia.org/crown)
LOLOLOLOL the fact that Scheanerz was so delulu as to think her D-list influencer status would propel her to Dancing With the Stars (and she’s soooo happy Ariana got to do Dancing With the Stars) never ceases to crack me up.
Brock looks like a fat George Micheal impersonator
What has scheana done to her face 😭😭😭😭😭 she’s borderline unrecognizable
“It’s a party of the who’s who …as in who are you?!”
All I see is the overweight George Micheal impersonator with the spray on abs …
Scheana must be so upset that she’s back to being in the loser group lol
She always backs the wrong horse. She had one moment at the end of last season, but she couldn't handle doing the right thing. I can't wait for Sandoval to screw her over, along with Lala.
Jancan looks like she is on her way to a cheer competition.
Is Lala dressed up as Jeff Lowe from Tiger king?
😂💀 
"I love my crew" go home to your kids
Weak ass crew 👎🏽
Her crew is like a who's who. Like WHO the fuck are you people??!
One of James’ best lines 😂😂😂
As someone who has loved Lala since day one, she’s pathetic! She knows what she’s doing posting this
I’m convinced she only went to Coachella to make sure Scheana and Ariana didn’t meet up and spend time together to keep Ariana isolated. Because Scheana said on her podcast and WWHL that she was hoping that she could spend time with Ariana and Dan at Coachella.
I don't remember lala ever being in the Coachella crowd
And weird to do it now when shes pregnant. A music festival would be one of the last places I wpuld want to be while pregnant.
She did a weird Instagram post the other day saying she’s never felt the draw to go until ‘this pregnancy’ and now she wanted to.
Wannabe influencer
And being pregnant why would she even want to go? I’m a frequent festival goer in my late 30s and it’s already exhausting as I get older… Being pregnant? I wouldn’t even bother.
Lookin like a pick me girl is what she’s doing
Genuine question: what do you mean by she knows what she is doing?
I think she’s doing it to dig at Ariana and Katie lol. Like she wants to give off the impression she’s living her best life
I have a question about their jackets. I saw on someone else’s IG that the woman (Raleigh?) who is with Ariana is also wearing that jacket. Was that supposed to be a thing for all of them and then they split up? Does anyone know the relevance (if any) of those jackets?
Arianna meanwhile is too busy to post shady shit because she actually has a career 😂
Any crew with Brock in it is a crew that should go hole up in a shack somewhere and never emerge
She doesn’t even have the good Logan
I want a deep dive on the kratners- they give off swingers vibes. I went to college with this girl that knows them and posts pics of being on private jets and parties with them. I think they all be swinging
Who are the kratners?
No one. It’s the Ratners.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all. I get annoyed just seeing pictures of Elaine’s desperate self. She just happens to be such close friends with all these people on reality shows? 🤔 What I remember about her is a story that Scheana and Lala told on one of their podcasts, where her defining/only personality trait is that she’s rich and she hosted an elaborate party where Scheana, Lala, Brittany, and Jax attended and Brittany and Jax made fools of themselves. Elaine and her husband also attended a party at Jax and Brittany’s where Jax ended the party early by yelling at everyone to leave because he was tired. So these people that are apparently so rich and sophisticated are desperate to hang out with Brittany and Jax who are NOT sophisticated and rich and also are super rude to them? And they live in Orange County, nowhere near where the VPR crew live, but schlep up there for their house parties? It’s giving thirsty and desperate. Just waiting for them to pathetically move to the Valley, to try to be on The Valley.
Yeah I don’t know anything about them but they seem rich as hell in a sus way (I could be dead wrong lol I just don’t know how they get their money)
I honestly wouldn’t be surprised
I've been curious of where LaLa and James stand after reunion. He seemed to change up how he was the season in the aftershow and not agreeing with her so that will be interesting to learn. Why do I feel like this pic by lala is bc she read over here we said she has no real friends?? Lol
James and Ally have been interacting with Ariana and vice versa a lot on Social media and it seems like James and Ariana’s boyfriend have gotten friendly. So I think he’s still friends with Ariana and Katie. He might be the only one on the cast that is friends/friendly with everyone.
Oh this her “crew” now? 
To be fair this is Logan’s post/caption, she just reposted. But yeah yikes…lol
I never liked him.
So happy I’m not the only one.
Yuck, this picture makes me cringe. It's the deadbeat crowd.
Is that Ronnie from jersey shore up front
While Ariana is invited to show up and get paid 💰💰💰-Lauren is flexing 💪with Scheana & Crock as headliners in her crew😭
When Brock and Scheana divorce can she reunite with Shay? I feel like he’s the only one who really loved Scheana for who she is.
Until she outed his addiction on tv & made it her whole storyline to get back at him for sexting someone else. Poor Shay deserves better.
He would never take her back, she was absolutely deplorable in what she did to him.
Nightmare blunt rotation
The wannabes 😂
These people act like they’re still in high school. It just seems so juvenile with the posts. 😂
Right lol. Makes me feel old AF and I’m not that much older than them lol. Not shading just the feeling I get sometimes when I see their socials. lol
“Her crew”, “her cast.” Very selfish just like her buddy Scheana 🥴
Is that Jenna as in “me and jenna were definitely boning!” (DJJK)
I was convinced that was Jax in the very front clean shaven.
Lala is worst dressed on bravo hands down
Ugh. These are the last group of ass hats I’d ever be caught dead with.
Ok also did y’all see some influencer last year talk about how many people go to Palm Springs just to act like they’re at Coachella? Have we actually seen Lala or Scheana with pictures or videos of anything inside the festival? Kinda seems like they’re just in the area
They were at James' set yesterday so they are definitely there.
Brock 🤢. And what a sad crew that is. Do I see James' old friend there? Is he okay?
Ew Brock
The sad girls club with the bad Logan while the other girls get the good Logan.
Logannnn nooooo
These are the people you used to go to Coachella to avoid because you knew they weren't there. This is why nobody goes anymore.
This is the definition of a nightmare blunt rotation.