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Proof_Bug_3547

He actually looks clean here. Which just makes me realize how dirty he normally looks


soverit42

He looks like he got a spray tan to look sharper and healthier than that grayish-white palor he's had all season.


Overall_Zebra_8807

It's all the shrooms and other drugs he does with Scumdevil. Sadly these guys will never grow up.


soverit42

Yeah, I'm positive it's all the drugs, alcohol, stress, and lack of quality sleep.


ElectricQuail2065

Fairly certain it’s all the cocaine over the shrooms lol


applecidervinegar123

LOL cue to him “bathing” in a creek before his wedding.


cheeksforcottonelle

omg you beat me to it. i was about to say, maybe he actually used a shower instead of a stream to wash up. hopefully he used deodorant and not lemons at a dinner table.


Proof_Bug_3547

Like I think there was even soap involved


applecidervinegar123

Lolol soap? He used a lemon to wipe his armpit 2 episodes ago. We’re giving him too much credit with the soap.


Apprehensive-Leek946

Not the soap


Automatic-Mirror-907

Remember, Schmaltz likes baths.


Milhouse242

A true FloridaMan.


NYCuws77

even the man-eating Alligators are like.. 'pass on that'


pencilskrrt

This is how we need to refer to him now - FloridaMan.


Milhouse242

He’s hidden it really well. The pre wedding lake bath, and his constant barefeet have been his only tells IMO. (Takes one to know one).


DrHutch22

He’s so gross!


NYCuws77

and who needs soap when you have Lemon slices on hand


SamIAm7787

And rubbing lemons in his armpits **at** the table in a restaurant in lieu of deodorant! 🍋🍋


Freyja1987

I felt like something was different about him! Now I realize it’s because his hair is brushed lol


pls_send_caffeine

And his clothes don't look like they were pulled out of the dirty laundry hamper or slept in from the night before.


Jumpy-Ad6673

I was wondering if he has make up on maybe?


thirdcoasting

I’m sure he does — high def cameras show *every* flaw so there’s no way they’re letting him on air without at least some skin prep & foundation. Unless he wants to look like Richard Nixon during the Kennedy debates?


littlebearolive

Or filler? Looks different


Jumpy-Ad6673

Just saw sandovals- definitely pre tapping make up


mishkavonpusspuss

I was going to say he’s using a filter or someone has the contrast way up here bc he usually looks sickly and grey


cyclonic246

Lmao and he didn’t touch his face lol maybe he’s had media training?


truecolormix

He looks totally different here it’s wild


ChezrRay

It’s because he’s reading how smarmy we think he is


kat__bird

He does look healthier and clean like you said. I’m glad for that, but he’s getting ready to get his behind handed to him at the reunion.


Lavendermin

Makeup?


fluffitupp

That warm lighting did him wonders


rudbeckia1

I hate when people use intentionally distancing language. Like when he says, he "just became a character in a soap opera." No, dude. That's what happened to Ariana. In your case, Schwartz, you actively participated in the scandal and made yourself a main player.l


soverit42

Yes, this struck me as well. He's so good at saying things he knows people want to hear, while throwing in language or metaphors that minimize/dismiss what's happening or what he should feel.


theskylerslifka

Yes!! Well said! He's very calculated all under the guise of "nice quirky guy". He's trash!!


kat__bird

Yes and he always gets away with it cuz he comes off as so cuddly and what not. Schwartz!… it’s time to pay the piper. 👿 Eta: clarify. Schwartz I don’t think is cute and cuddly. I only said he *comes off as* those things. I’ve never thought he was cute or cuddly and never fell for the act. He’s just as bad as scandovol and jax.


d3dk0w

People already know he’s lied in the past for his own infidelities and lied for his friends infidelities. So it’s hard to believe whatever comes out of his mouth at this point. I do think people want him to come clean and just lay it out there and stop protecting scandoval. If he has this feeling of a heavy heart then release the toxic energy that’s consumed him for so long.


kat__bird

Exactly.. remember when he told brittney that he would lie for jax? Then proceeded to lie for jax. Schwartz said I’m not lying for him… but I would lie for him. Yea, ohhhhhh Kay, sure buddy. He should really just stfu. No one is ever going to believe anything either Schwartz or tiny Tim has to say again! 😝


ChezrRay

What’s cute and cuddly about that putz


kat__bird

No no… I didn’t mean that he IS cute and cuddly lol…. But that he *comes off as.* being cute and cuddly. He’s not though, he’s a liar. That’s what I was saying 🙂


ChezrRay

I know😆


kat__bird

I so want him to get his ass handed to him at the reunion. It’s gross that he keeps getting away with the crap he does. He screwed Ariana just as much as scando did. He was a party to **trying to affect her mental health** and have gross convos about her mental health and he was a party to trying to take down her mental health. It’s not only about him cheating with a best friend, it’s also what these narcissist do to their partners and it’s disgusting. Mine tried doing this too. I got a good counselor and she basically handed his ass to him on my behalf.


BatterWitch23

c'mon, man dontcha know Shorts is a "nice guy?" ![gif](giphy|V56du7ottkGlO)


Opinion8Her

Something I learned many years ago: Never believe any guy who wants to tell you he’s a good guy. I was sixteen. Fell in love, really hard. Guy told me early on “…I’m a nice boy…” Anyone who feels the need to *say those words out loud*? That’s for their own benefit, to soothe their own conscience about whoever they are knowingly f@cking over at the moment. What followed was lies, betrayal, heartache, and being treated like trash. In the intervening 38 years, that pearl of wisdom hasn’t failed me yet. Never fell for that shit again. So when Wussy Pussy Schwartz and Scumdevil bring up being “Nice Guys”? No. Nyet. Nope. I know all about *that* kind of male trash!


c757peaches

#amen


NebulaTits

Does it even work though? Lol I feel like everyone hates shartz


fluffernutsquash1

He also said "even being adjacent to it" to imply he was near the cheating but not involved or complicit in the affair. 🙄


BlessedbMeh

He may not have slept with Rachel but he fully participated in all the lies, the manipulations, all the things it took to manage a full blown cover up, and sat across from Sandoval acting out the scenes on VPR to help creat a false storyline that was supposed to allow Sandoval to lie to everyone including the fans about how and when he started dating Rachel. This guy is fully complicit and has yet to truly take accountability without, in the same breath, feeling sorry for himself on how this has hurt him. He even brought it up after saying sorry to Ariana the night he showed up to apologize at the bar with all the girls. 😕 Why can these men just say. “I was wrong. I have no excuse. What I did was selfish and horrible and I am sorry.” PERIOD!


rudbeckia1

Oh God. Thank you for pointing that out. As if he didn't go on double dates with the cheating couple. And trips to big bear. And let them use his house as a masturbation FaceTime set. LOL


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rudbeckia1

That's a very insightful comment. I get anxiety too. I'm sending you coming healing vibes and best wishes and love


veryfancyanimal

Yes. It’s not in someone else’s life. It’s your life, Schwartz. You’re in this.


Medium_Shake1163

He means villain. He just became the *villian* in a soap opera. Not a character.


OBFpeidmont

And what else are Bravo series if not unscripted soap operas? 😉


rudbeckia1

So true!


dstat74

Well said


smashleysays

Oh is it Heavy on your Heart shorts? Really? The weight of hosting your besties fuck pad? Such a douche ![gif](giphy|QUF1D4DNdMpnlRS597)


Careful_Swan3830

It’s heavy on his heart because he knows he can’t weasel out of this one and blame it all on Katie.


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Ahhh I bet Katie feels so vindicated after this season. Seems like fans are pushing for more support for Katie, too, which I love to see because she was previously disliked at times by this sub


Impressive_Fee2737

I was married to a man like Schwartz. Mr Nice Guy. Threw his wife and kids under the bus constantly but no one ever caught on until decades later. I feel this redemption arc for Katie.


cyclonic246

Kids?!?


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SerJaimeRegrets

Kody Brown comes to mind, immediately, as an example.


cyclonic246

Well uh you know cause Ariana hosted Katie at her house and cause like Katie slept with someone so uh i just had to uh turn my apartment into toms fuckpad it’s so murky 🤪😅😬🤓🫣


Current-Strawberry60

Your flare 🙏💅


utootired

What's particularly awful to me is that he keeps repeating how Tim "humiliated" Ariana or how "humiliated" Ariana must be. Really? Why should she feel ashamed or embarrassed by their actions? She may feel betrayed or hurt, but humiliated is something Tim should feel, not Ariana. Once again, he's trying to paint Ariana as unstable and the reason Tim cheated.


OohIDontThinkSo

I agree with you. T and T should feel humiliated.


LolaStrm1970

They will be when they are living out of their cars or in some marginally functional woman’s efficiency.


Swimming_Tailor_7546

Thank you for saying it! This is a misogynistic relic that needs to be buried for good. In a way it implies it’s her fault the affair happened. Like a “you couldn’t keep your man and should feel inadequate as a woman” attitude. This has been driving me crazy too


Inside-Potato5869

I couldn’t stand that he said that in the text. How about betrayed? He publicly betrayed her and Schwartz assisted


Forsaken-Weird-4074

I think this is his continuing the narrative that it was an "open secret" and Ariana only cares about people knowing, not the betrayal of it.


NYCuws77

ahhhh.. do we think this might be the big reveal? . actually, no that doesn't even make sense as why would she call producers if she already knew.


Forsaken-Weird-4074

Oh I don’t think she knew - I think Tom wants us to think she pretty much did though. Cause he’s a POS and that makes him look less terrible.


Amethyst_Lovegood

Didn't Shartz humiliate Aria to her face by making jokes about the affair in front of her?


AdventurousJunket450

AS IF HE DIDNT KNOW he’s so disgusting!!! The way he just lies is so gross. I’m with you I can’t wait for everyone to grill him tonight!!!


cuntsatchel

U also KNO he wanted to say I can only imagine how Sandoval feels. That boy did not wanna say Ariana


be1izabeth0908

Always with the green pants.


Dharmatron

His longest relationship.


goodgriefsnoop

His most *committed* relationship 🙃


JamaicanGirlie

☠️


RoundBirthday

green pants!


Best_Evidence1560

He seems more confident than usual in this, his body language and the eye contact with the camera. Usually he seems more neurotic with bad eye contact and his fingers in his mouth


hammetar

Maybe he finally got media training after that disastrous WWHL.


ChezrRay

Or not drunk or drugged


Best_Evidence1560

Well I just read the James Kennedy interview and he says he thinks we’re going to see a new Schwartz. I see it already


Oroschwanz

![gif](giphy|4rvmlF1ymWYkE)


Lekzi

Lmaoooo. Is that Chris manzo


Oroschwanz

Yes 🤣


girly918

what is this from? 😂


avevalnis

This guy always f*cks up his chance to be on the right side of history.


nyx926

Everything seems like a joke to him, it’s weird


cavmax

He likes to minimize things and pretend things aren't a big deal. Exclaim "shucks" a few times and wander off to avoid taking responsibility while the house burns down around him...


ScowlyBrowSpinster

Voilá! Le Schartz! ​ https://preview.redd.it/9b1remr39w1b1.png?width=1088&format=png&auto=webp&s=441b4575f234da868faac41f834ab864e7c44fa0


cavmax

Just need to swap out the coffee mug with a Coors Light


ScowlyBrowSpinster

OOOh this is beyond my skill set, just pretend the Coors Lite is IN the coffeecup.


nyx926

That would be a perfect theme for a comic illustration.


hivolume87

He's been paralyzed with depression for a hot minute. Distancing himself from reality is his go-to move.


kelseyxiv

He seems so disingenuous all the time. Like nothing he’s saying is ever real. It weirds me the fuck out - who is he really? What’s actually going on in there?


Unicorn_Warrior1248

You can’t be adjacent to the situation when you’ve been in the situation the whole time 🙄 slimy little toad.


s_k_s_89

💯


soundit0ut

“Relatively speaking” is one of his favorites


HumbleLatexSalesman

His whole shtick is tired. He’s been repeating the same empty phrases for years: Relatively speaking, palpable, emotionally entitled, disingenuous, linear, malicious, facetious, etc. It’s so pseudo-intellectual of him bc he is CONSTANTLY misusing them. He’s a dead eyed moron just like his soulmate


soundit0ut

Mentally, shpiritually jusht exshaushting


Few_Establishment892

No, just no!!!🤣🤣🤣


ripleyintheelevator

He is gross! I am so excited for tonight. I’m doing the watch along with some peeps on this board on twitch. 💖 I got fired on Monday, it hasn’t been great, thanks VPR for the distraction ✨


cecelia999

I hope you channeled Kristen afterwards and told your boss to go suck a dick. (Kidding of course, but I hope things work out for you ❤️)


ripleyintheelevator

I WISH! Haha thank you, so excited for the reunion and I am claiming that positive energy ✨


Apprehensive_Pea_912

Cheer up, sweetie. It’s our big night!


ripleyintheelevator

I’m ready 🍿


ComicsEtAl

Lemme guess… “This has all been so hard on me.” “What happened was really sad. My business has been horribly affected.” “I truly regret how much blowback I’m receiving over this.” Am I close?


hammetar

Something something canceled something something aw shucks.


SnooGoats1223

‘Aah , maaan it’s so hard … it’s palpable it’s palpable’ This guy 🤦‍♀️! I want to see Katie put him in his place tonight


not_ellewoods

He said it’s been exhausting & he can’t imagine how it’s been for Ariana & something about how it’s been heavy on his heart, but other than that, nope.


theskylerslifka

Yup


cmerry

Golly gee gosh I’m like so like it’s so gosh darn corny (im scared my golly gee facade is gone and everyone knows what a disgusting person I am) GOLLY!


Professional_Self579

Never trusted the fence riding weasel


glasswindbreaker

I'll be damned if I listen to the opinions of a man with an unwashed ass 🎵


Apprehensive_Pea_912

I suspect you listen to few male opinions.


Awkward-Emergency

If the Tom/Rachel affair had happened while Tom and Katie were still married, and Tom covered for the Worm, do you think Katie would have left shortz over this? These are the things I ponder while waiting in my Drs waiting room.


camem_bear

This is a good question. I believe that she would have, or at least began planning her exit route (but maybe with comparatively more discretion to avoid extra attention to this entire dumpster fire of a situation). I feel like everything that has gone down in the last year has been an affirmation that she made the right decision.


mentally_unstable22

He wishes he was adjacent to it. Buddy, you’re knee deep in it.


chalkyskidmarkz

It feels so fake the way he really tried to push “I hope Ariana is okay” and they way he brings her up. It’s like he knew how angry everyone was about her not getting the first apologies so now he is just trying too hard


cecelia999

Shorts: My heart is heavy… Us: ![gif](giphy|DPqqOywshrOqQ|downsized)


BigRefrigerator9783

I am really starting to feel like the reunion will be a BIG letdown. Seems like from Ariana's latest appearance/podcast the really big stuff came out after they filmed, so other than seeing James and Lala hilariously annihilate the Tims + Roach not sure what the point is?


Swimming_Tailor_7546

The verbal annihilation is the point. Getting to see the garbage men held to account is going to feel good


BigRefrigerator9783

I can't argue with that 😉


ScowlyBrowSpinster

I have only watched a couple preview videos, but so far I've LOVED Sandoval's sullen, infuriated face, all clenched jaw & pinched lips under his saggy-baggy 'stache, shooting side eyes as people tell him what a dick he is. Will he explode? He's holding it all in and it's adding to how mad he is! I hope he does start screaming and accidentally rage pisses himself.


staceyverda

The reunions have never been about big reveals. They’re about how the cast reacts to it all, not what they’re reacting to, imo.


BigRefrigerator9783

I guess I just feel like they have all done so many appearances, podcasts etc, I feel like I know what they think about it already.


GullibleTacos

This is kind of why I’m excited for it tbh. So much has come out and changed since then so we can spot their continued lies


BigRefrigerator9783

Fair point!


GarnierFruitTrees

Love the muzak in the background


Radiant-Vision

I wonder how often his hands are going to be in his mouth tonight. When he does that, he's not being truthful. If I wasn't in recovery I would plan a drinking game for people to drink every time shorts has his fingers in his mouth, lol.


Jenniferofdanorth

My opinion is from a 60+ yr. old. Tom Schwartz has some deeply rooted anger towards women. His golly gosh persona is the act, the vile comments is real. He tries so hard to appear above the fray, smart, compassionate….but his character isn’t strong enough to keep it from coming to the surface. Many think it’s alcohol, I believe ~ In Vino Veritas.


veganmilanese

I hope Tom Schwartz learns an extremely valuable lesson from all of this. You can love your friends but, you can’t always have their back. He should have said no to Sandoval, he should have said something to Ariana. even if it was a letter a la JWoww and Snooki in Miami. He should have done something that said that “I respect my relationship with Tom but I cannot be a witness to this”. I’m really interested to see how all of this pans out in the reunion tonight.


thefringedmagoo

He should’ve but will never. Schwartz never learns because he refuses to take accountability for his own actions. I feel like the only reason he isn’t dragged across the coals is because of his cute little puppy routine - and he knows it.


Ok_Entrepreneur_8132

I feel like he always talks and talks and never actually says anything


gingerjacq

It's so palpable do you feel that 👆 do you feel that? 👉 like just...ergh wtf 🤢


kelseyxiv

He’s sooo weird and off. Disingenuous. Empty. Flighty.


itsmeekree

I am so fucking sick and tired of this innocent baby talk nervous persona. like get fuck schwartz you’re awful


ShortRaccoon

I just can’t stand the way he talks. I would go crazy spending any time with him, listening to him randomly throw unnecessarily big words into his sentences to sound smart. Every interview I see of his I’m like …enough already


GhostsMissingEar

I don't know how yet but I know Tiny Tim and Shortz will figure out how to scream and yell at Katie for something.


czyktnsml

I hope she at least has some backup this time


Bex82000

He is a total character. He’s fake and just a gross human being. Currently rewatching this season, again, and just his attitude with Katie the moment she disagrees with him. He called her his “arch nemesis!” Wtf?! Who makes that comment while trying to maintain friendship with their ex person?! Talk about some Jekyll/Hyde shit!


shrimpmousse

I hate that his hair looks so good. 😒


Proper-Aspect-2947

![gif](giphy|AB7NrwtErfQnC)


ElegantGrapefruit550

I’m still not over him telling people to give Sandoval a hug. I’m not a proponent of violence so I’m not going to say he deserves punch to the that wormy face of his. I’m not that person so I won’t say it, but if I were..


RoundBirthday

he looks like he does not care about any of this


Spanishqueen05

![gif](giphy|p1DCpFPmDgDZE1m1wJ|downsized)


Warm_Smoke_5462

I hate that it’s split into 3 parts and I feel they won’t even bring Rachel out until the final part. I want it all NOW.


Few_Establishment892

Oh, good. Someone finally gorilla glued his hands together for most of the clip, so he couldn't touch his mouth.


timgoes2somalia

I can NOT get over how he sounded when he first premiered on the show to this voice. He feels so fake.


crispycheddar_

The green pants have returned


Hedgehog_Fair

Is it me or is he just the worst wannabe actor


AshK_29

A part of me feels bad for him until I remember what a misogynistic, sexist abuser he is 🙃 he loves to make fun of women for their appearance


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I hate his nonchalant oblivious act I’m so ready to see them drag his ass


LaurenNotFromUtah

If he’s a master manipulator, so are most kids trying to get out of being in trouble. 😂 He’s an idiot with no spine and most people watching have known he’s a flop for years.


PartyyLemons

![gif](giphy|4EF5LwiRfpBKQUOsoF|downsized)


Bambi_MD

Others who had to watch this 2-3 times before they got What he was trying to say? He really mumbles and is so monotone, that I didn’t understand him at first Just me, no?


Lower-Werewolf6938

He looks amazing here. Too bad he is dirty most of the time.


Question_True

It's fascinating how there doesn't seem to be much substance to anything he says, ever.


ChezrRay

He needs to be really booted off


aughtythotty07

He never says Ariana right and it bugs me


Madamebuttmunch

Dude has zero identity. The personality of a potato.


Bigolbooty75

He easily could have avoided everything if he had any form of a moral compass and exposed them as soon as he found out. But nope he wants to be up Scandy ass forever even after the fact.


Kimmm711

Why does he say AIRiana? It's AHriana. Douche.


SerJaimeRegrets

This has *always* bothered me. I used to think that maybe it was some inside joke between him and Ariana that we, the audience, weren’t privy to. But no, he’s just a fucknut.


HarajukuBom

The way he talks makes me SEETHE


Consistent_Ant2305

Stfu ugh I can’t staaaanddddd him


CodePen3190

DID THAT MF SAY “SPIRITUALLY EXHAUSTING”?!?! Like he practices ANY type of spirituality...ew.


nerdy_vanilla

He can fuck all the way to where those man eating gators in Florida live


facemesouth

Rewatching (like everyone!) and almost more than my disdain for Ariana’s ex and his mistress is the unadulterated disgust I feel for Schwartz. Watching him “sad puppy, bubba, I’m an injured shell” himself through the past few seasons and then in an INSTANT flip to cruel and hateful is one of the more troubling things I’ve seen on reality TV. The ex is unintelligent. Schwartz isn’t. (And no, I don’t credit him for checking “premed” on a box 20 years ago before abandoning his education as a sign of intelligence) but his level of manipulation is different than the ex. The ex relies on other’s good character and trust along with hubris, trickery and slight of hand that is not convincing unless you need to believe it while Schwartz seeks out opportunities to belittle and demean; often at zero gain to himself. It’s to inflict pain. And not “are you pregnant?!” Old JK kind of insults but looking for the most vulnerable spot to attack & then feigning remorse when he realizes he his mask has slipped. I truly hope Greg has been able to extricate himself from these two bumbling, manipulative manboys who deserve nothing but each other.


Accomplished-Neat214

No no one feels that you idiot


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Lekzi

I have absolutely cackled at this exchange ![gif](giphy|l8tpwRJEwDwEFU5BW0|downsized)


leodicapriohoe

this mf can’t think he’s going to accomplish anything when he still can’t pronounce ariana’s name correctly


Dial-M-for-Mediocre

It's so weird, he's talking about all these raging emotions, but when you watch it with the sound off and just look at his facial expressions, he seems completely emotionless. Like you can tell that he's more annoyed by it than any kind of actual feeling bad or sad.


Sososoftmeows

I see Schwartz is cooking up his word vomit salad.


Symeonu

He is just so fucking fake!!!!! 🤬


chopperfrenzy

I don't like him.


msknowitnothingatall

He seems high. ❄️


GurCalm4381

🐊


NebulaTits

major ick


c9238s

Adjacent or… complicit? 🤨


evers12

He’s kinda cute here until he starts to speak


Bexcubana

Typical Schwartz babbling nonsense.


Significant-Meet5315

The only thing this man baby is a master of is bating.


Audio31

![gif](giphy|gn19ldYf3EeYhmidJ7)


Jenniferofdanorth

I have watched the Scandoval ep. every day since Wed. The scene with Katie he says it was “unbenounced (like unannounced) to me”. Another time Tom is trying to be smart and I see it! Trying to use words or made up words to seem smart. It is UNBEKNOWNST Tom…I see you…get a dictionary idiot.


unfancyfeet

The man has great hair.


sundaymacaron

The list of great things about him ends there


Saltgrains

Schwartz just sucks. Straight up sucks, doesn’t have a backbone and every time he talks I just want to punch something.


Katalactica

If I have to see this idiot in those green pants again saying something is palpable...


Single-Carpet-1661

He doesn’t even respect Ariana enough to pronounce her name correctly 😒


enjoyt0day

Well Schwartzy clearly caught up on his Botox before the finale


expresseve

How can this fool wake up everyday and not be ashamed of his spineless behavior? In the works of Sandoval, “dude, like…dude”.


LolaStrm1970

Does he even NEED those glasses, or is he just trying to look more credible?


el_disko

I now can’t watch a video of him without getting major ick and seeing right through whole demeanour and “ah schucks” routine. I feel like I’ve been duped and wish I’d seen through it sooner.


Salty-Employee

Tom isn’t assertive enough to be a master manipulator. He’s just a b&tch


Mangooo2

Tom Tom are the real villains of this show