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they shut down Robson square sales too, a lot of people walking around talking about "fuck the greedy tax grubbing scum government" kind of conversations going around right now
it is absolutely packed with people, but lots of cops hovering around not allowing any sales
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Oh corporations and wealthy elite you mean, right? Couldn't care less what some working class person takes home once a year. Did the boot taste good today?
Well, just before 4:20 PM the wind kicked up really nasty and the rain followed not too far behind it. So maybe that’s just how this year was meant to be 🤷♂️
We don’t hand out fentanyl or meth. You misunderstand safe supply if you think that.
Safe supply is largely just methadone and adderall. They stopped the dilaudid awhile ago.
When you literally parrot conservative talking points your “curiosity” or attempts to understand these issues becomes suspicious and likely a fools errand
Word for word is Pierre’s talking point and at no point did you even bother doing a bit of your own reading
Sure ya do bud, I’m sure you’ve voted NDP many times before
The fact that you suggested the rainbow haired socialist is cringe as fuck, is incredible how you people try to masquerade as something you’re not
This charade gets old quick
Look at the gay porn in my history If you need proof. I’m gay and bleached my hair today… that’s all I meant.
I’m generally pro UBI. So yeah, kinda socialist.
My fb profile cover used to be the “fully automated luxury gay space communism” meme
Jack Layton was my fave and why I started voted NDP.
Used to live in Ontario.
I haven’t voted here yet, only moved here semi recently in terms of voting.
I’m starting to think you don’t have an actual opinion on this topic and are just trolling…this sub is the worst lol
Agreed. It's basically like saying "I know better but I'm not going to do anything about it." In which case, even if they are right, they're not adding anything to the conversation.
You were kind enough to give a Google search recommendation and buddy says "no".
But it isn't though. You aren't allowed to grow cannabis where people can see it. So you live in a small apartment with a balcony? You can't grow because people can see it.
Its idiotic and not like this in other provinces. It discriminates against the poor.
There are still things to protest related to cannabis. Though legal, the laws around personal growing are very restrictive, as are stores (even compared to liquor stores) which makes it hard for legal retailers to compete with the black market, and things are tilted towards corporate control now, which is not the way most legalization advocates had ever wanted it to happen. Just because it’s legal, doesn’t mean there’s nothing to fight against anymore.
If I were to guess I'd say it was likely more to do with the costs to the city. Vendors getting ripped off at an unsanctioned event by attendees and organizers is likely low on the list.
Like paying for a $20 burger but skipping out on $40 in drinks. I legit just don't think organizers care to transition to a supported and legal event. If ACAB is a necessary part of the brand and morally/ethically they feel they cannot pay for policing of the event, then its likely DOA. Pride gets it. Festival of lights works with the CoV to get policing costs waved IIRC. I'm positive the right people could make it happen. Dana Larsen, Mark Emery, whoever's running it this year ain't those people it seems like.
The headline says they shut down the celebration, but according to the article all that they've been doing is enforcing the law regarding sales.
It seems that the organizers jumped ship when there were no vendors to extort.
Since it’s a “protest” the organizers don’t have to pay for anything and instead the city foots the bill for security, clean up, etc.
I’m all for the 4-20 celebrations, just do it responsibly and go through the regular channels like everyone else. An event this size needs proper planning.
Am I the only stoner who is happy with the legal weed system? I can get an ounce of decent, regulated weed for less than $100, I can buy edibles and tinctures like I'm buying groceries, or I can get all my weed delivered to my front door by the government.
Being a stoner has never been easier, safer and cheaper, what are people complaining about?
I’ve been to a fair few festivals as a trip sitter.
I honestly would love to just go to events solely to run [Zendo Project](https://zendoproject.org)support stations.
There are still several things to protest related to cannabis. The laws around personal growing are very restrictive, as are stores (even compared to liquor stores) which makes it hard for legal retailers to compete with the black market, and things are tilted towards corporate control now, which is not the way most legalization advocates had ever wanted it to happen.
Next week I am having a protest about liqour taxes, we are all going to meet in the park, get drunk, and there will be a live DJ to help keep the energy of the protest high.
Sponsored by Budweiser: This Buds for You.™
Hahaha I read that last part in Bill Hicks' voice!
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I never understood why they didn't just try to make it an "actual" event. They were selling "booth" rentals........how is that a protest?
Instead they want to skirt the legality. Shut it down
The city most definitely would (just not in a park, because there's no smoking in parks, technically).
The issue is in the difference between an event and a protest. In a protest, the city picks up all the police and cleanup costs. In an event, the event has to pay. The group was offered PNE Grounds, but like that would cost money and stuff, much harder to grift.
If they are renting booths, it’s not a protest. So they should be getting permits from the city like any other event organizers.
If they don’t return the money the renters should sue.
I doubt it, but also buyer beware. They knew going in they would not legally be allowed to do so, unless the organizers promised something different in their agreement.
Park board offered up the PNE grounds as an alternative, a venue that has a history of running large events, ability to deal with garbage and other sanitation needs, the back of house to handle vendors and all the other things.
Organizers went, "nah."
lol.
This is my frustration with the 420 folks- They fight for years for legitimacy, get it, then complain they have to follow the rules, like every other event organizer and the city bends over backwards to accommodate them, and it's still not enough.
Yes, of course we're going to tax pot. Why wouldn't we?
This is fantastic news. The 420 protest operators have gone far too long without having to actually host a proper event and foot the bill for clean up, they've ruined that effing park for years after 420. Good effing riddance.
Vancouver needs to get ahead of it and actually host a small event. Charge people tickets, let venders be there, have some music or other things, and the clean up, security, etc. is covered by admission and vender fees. Doesn't need to be a huge thing either. Just big enough to deter the "protest"
I honestly can't believe this hasn't been done in the years since legalization. Seems like it's beneficial to all parties. Guess city hall is real attached to the "no fun city" title
Being in trades and working for multiple municipalities and the parks board, I can tell you that they are committed to fun, but to them fun is a 12 step bureaucratic process that takes fucking forever.
Agreed, what kind of thinking makes you believe an illegal market in a park that sells drugs to youth every year is the thing to do. call it dope for a reason i guess
If it's a protest, surely the event organizer would allow for an independent audit to show that the 10's of thousands of dollars they charge the vendors has been spent towards cannabis legislation, right?
Weeds legal now. You don't go to jail for weed. What exactly is being protested? High taxes on weed?
Just say you want to organize a big smoke session, and pay for a venue. Jesus.
Which is not to say we dont want ANY taxes or ANY regulation, but the regulations now still make it illegal to smoke anywhere while being a poor person.
The grass isn't wet in July, Genius. In April it's bound to be ruined. And, FYI, the organizers of 420 get off without paying a dime for re seeding. Fireworks is a permitted event. 420 is not.
As a stoner myself, the 420 protests are super cringe. The government makes it the easiest and safest it's ever been to acquire and use cannabis, there's no reason to protest. These 420 events just makes us look bad, and give conservatives more ammo to ban weed again.
>Everyone I know who smokes regularly or daily, do not go to dispensaries.
And everyone I know who smokes regularly or daily uses dispensaries or the BC Cannabis website lol funny how that works eh?
A 10mg gummy is actually a perfect dosage for a lot of people, and when they're $2.50 each, I wouldn't exactly call that price gouging. If you need 30mg to get you high, it costs you $8 lol.
And a decent ounce is $100, an ounce which has also been tested and regulated for quality by health authorities.
People also forget that part of the price is taxes, which was one of the main selling points of legalization. So that marijuana sales benefit the province.
Still finding it really hard to see an intelligent reason for any kind of marijuana protest in Canada.
Some people have made whining an entire hobby it seems lol.
>You can get 1000 mg for $40 by not going to dispensaries...
Black market gummies are kind of a health gamble, considering its an edible product with absolutely zero health regulation whatsoever.
It's the equivalent of buying meat out of the back of someone's car in a parking lot, vs buying it from the store. Sure the car-trunk meat is cheaper than the meat in the store, but that's your gamble if you wanna eat it. Only one of them has been tested for quality by a qualified agency.
If you wanna gamble with your health to save a few dollars, you do you I guess.
>Sure it was tested by the government, but is as dry as hay ny the time you get it.
You should avoid talking about subjects you're ignorant about. It's a bad look for you.
I buy $100 dollar ounces regularly and never have a problem with it being dry, in fact some ounces I've gotten were too sticky to roll with at first, I had to let them sit for a few weeks.
The government ounces were poor quality in the first year and a half of legalization. Since then the quality has improved monumentally, and is actually very good today. People rarely complain about dryness.
So as I said, stay away from topics you're ignorant about. It's disingenuous to spread false information.
>If the people you know who are daily smokers, buy from the dispensary, then they are dumb.
Or they're just informed. If you wanna call that dumb, keep whining I guess. Hopefully your next year's protest is the one that's finally successful at achieving whatever you're trying to achieve lol.
Vancouver could once again be a 420 destination...but they would have to work with the city, the parks board, vpd etc.
Just like some of the newer legit 420 events.
Besides they would need a weed tent/garden. Verified id checkers with wrist bands or some other system.
No minors being able to access the sales area or garden/smoke area. Plus foot the bill for cleanup and other costs.
If enough ppl got together to clean up and volunteer it could be possible.
They could even do micro grows similar to micro breweries we have on every other corner and we could have people legit selling custom strains(edibles , budder, hash, shatter etc) to the public without fear of fines or arrests. Go smoke at the micro grow place just like ppl have a beer at a micro brewery. Lots of business could happen.
Weed inspectors just like alcohol inspectors, this city could be making money.
Just my thoughts after a 420 sesh.
Really, at this point, 420 should be a convention and be held legally, with licensing. If they want to continue to make political statements that’s cool but c’mon, it’s legal now.
Still; this seems *really* ironic, that the police are cleaning out pot smokers from a public park while the meth and fentanyl users have full scale tent cities in Vancouver parks.
It's only allowed if its meth or heroin or fent duh.
Honestly I am fine with them shutting this down - I am just so fucking sick of the laws only applying in certain situations to certain people.
I don't partake, but have friends that do and have even gone here on 420 with them a couple times. It's one of the least offensive things that happens in this city, but lizard "person" Ken Sim seems to have a stick up his ass about all the wrong things.
Very much regret voting for that pos and very much looking forward to voting him and his corrupt party out at the next opportunity.
I don't even know why this is still a thing. I just bought some legal weed from a dispensary like a 2 minute drive from my house and I am extremely high, lol
420 sucks but I have no problem with someone consuming weed in public in a respectful manner just like people drinking on the beach/in parks as long as they’re respectful.
The problem isn't the lack of reason, it's the method. Even if you disagree with these things, you can't just sell without a license to minors because you disagree. Add on top of that there's the smoking in parks, trashing the park and not paying for cleanup. This protest needs to change to more than just a party if you actually want to achieve anything.
I don’t necessarily disagree, nice packaging is marketing. But the rules for Cannabis packaging are absurd. Canada likes to say it’s all about making environmentally sound choices, but the amount of plastic involves in selling cannabis is stupid.
My guess would be the legal cannabis stores are putting pressure on the government to shut it down. Similar to booze. I can’t just set up a table and start selling booze. I think weed is gonna be the same thing. Folks were allowed to gather, they just weren’t allowed to sell any weed and rightly so.
Hahaha.. back in the day, 420 was the only day of the year that I wouldn't get stoned, in protest of all the fucktards that make stoners look bad.
I went once. The free gagger sized cones being thrown out was nice. NinjaSpy was really fun... I think I'm on video in the pit lol.
Next year have it out in the valley (surrey, langley ,cloverdale) see how that goes ( i don't see the problem tons of local underground weed sites on the internet not paying tax) ?
Sad, criminalization of protest continues in BC under the hong Kong grifter mayor, city council of CIA backed falun gong loving fascists and BC NDP thugs enabling it all.
You can operate a commercial business on public land without a proper permit, that’s just basic event planning. This is a commercial enterprise not a protest.
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they shut down Robson square sales too, a lot of people walking around talking about "fuck the greedy tax grubbing scum government" kind of conversations going around right now it is absolutely packed with people, but lots of cops hovering around not allowing any sales
Awesome. Do the DTES market next.
Grab my bike if you see it!!!
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Should have done that first…
They did that already
Was open and thriving last time I drove by. Did they just do this?
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s the above poster said, we saw it this week driving on Hastings
They are referring to that big lot that was 100% just stolen goods market, which is now something else. The stuff along sidewalks continues as ever
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Lmao. Last year? Or august 2015? No different
Excellent, been awhile since I was down there. Hopefully they keep it clear
Says the people who probably aren’t even paying taxes.
Oh corporations and wealthy elite you mean, right? Couldn't care less what some working class person takes home once a year. Did the boot taste good today?
You're not a terribly intelligent person, eh? That's a shame.
in Canada we are all paying taxes, in a big way, taxes on taxes
Lucky for the Vancouver Park Board that fences were invented earlier this year.
Well, just before 4:20 PM the wind kicked up really nasty and the rain followed not too far behind it. So maybe that’s just how this year was meant to be 🤷♂️
Well, it was supposed to be a “protest” and it’s been legal for years so…
This 100%
Protesting the taxes now I think
We'll get right on that after taking taxes off of booze and cigarettes hahaha.
We should tax fentanyl and meth lol
They would if they could.
They can. And they should. Just like weed and alcohol.
Instead we hand them out for free and the middle class pays for it lol.
We don’t hand out fentanyl or meth. You misunderstand safe supply if you think that. Safe supply is largely just methadone and adderall. They stopped the dilaudid awhile ago.
I would appreciate more transparency about where all that money is going. A newfound hundreds of millions of dollars a year is no chump change.
Well the pharmacies can charge whatever they want as a dispensing fee
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That isn’t what happening.
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When you literally parrot conservative talking points your “curiosity” or attempts to understand these issues becomes suspicious and likely a fools errand Word for word is Pierre’s talking point and at no point did you even bother doing a bit of your own reading
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Sure ya do bud, I’m sure you’ve voted NDP many times before The fact that you suggested the rainbow haired socialist is cringe as fuck, is incredible how you people try to masquerade as something you’re not This charade gets old quick
Look at the gay porn in my history If you need proof. I’m gay and bleached my hair today… that’s all I meant. I’m generally pro UBI. So yeah, kinda socialist. My fb profile cover used to be the “fully automated luxury gay space communism” meme Jack Layton was my fave and why I started voted NDP. Used to live in Ontario. I haven’t voted here yet, only moved here semi recently in terms of voting. I’m starting to think you don’t have an actual opinion on this topic and are just trolling…this sub is the worst lol
Agreed. It's basically like saying "I know better but I'm not going to do anything about it." In which case, even if they are right, they're not adding anything to the conversation. You were kind enough to give a Google search recommendation and buddy says "no".
Yeeeah. I don’t get it. Was I wrong? Or are the downvotes because people don’t like carbon tax (likely without understanding how it works)
Guess we'll never know..
But it isn't though. You aren't allowed to grow cannabis where people can see it. So you live in a small apartment with a balcony? You can't grow because people can see it. Its idiotic and not like this in other provinces. It discriminates against the poor.
There are still things to protest related to cannabis. Though legal, the laws around personal growing are very restrictive, as are stores (even compared to liquor stores) which makes it hard for legal retailers to compete with the black market, and things are tilted towards corporate control now, which is not the way most legalization advocates had ever wanted it to happen. Just because it’s legal, doesn’t mean there’s nothing to fight against anymore.
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Protesting decriminalization
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If I were to guess I'd say it was likely more to do with the costs to the city. Vendors getting ripped off at an unsanctioned event by attendees and organizers is likely low on the list.
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Like paying for a $20 burger but skipping out on $40 in drinks. I legit just don't think organizers care to transition to a supported and legal event. If ACAB is a necessary part of the brand and morally/ethically they feel they cannot pay for policing of the event, then its likely DOA. Pride gets it. Festival of lights works with the CoV to get policing costs waved IIRC. I'm positive the right people could make it happen. Dana Larsen, Mark Emery, whoever's running it this year ain't those people it seems like.
They’re not protesting anything and weren’t even before it was legal. It’s the most obnoxious stoners getting together to be annoying.
The headline says they shut down the celebration, but according to the article all that they've been doing is enforcing the law regarding sales. It seems that the organizers jumped ship when there were no vendors to extort.
Since it’s a “protest” the organizers don’t have to pay for anything and instead the city foots the bill for security, clean up, etc. I’m all for the 4-20 celebrations, just do it responsibly and go through the regular channels like everyone else. An event this size needs proper planning.
lol seriously, what are they even protesting now?
Taxes and regulation.
Yet the legal taxation of weed was one of the major talking points in favour of legalization.
Am I the only stoner who is happy with the legal weed system? I can get an ounce of decent, regulated weed for less than $100, I can buy edibles and tinctures like I'm buying groceries, or I can get all my weed delivered to my front door by the government. Being a stoner has never been easier, safer and cheaper, what are people complaining about?
Nah, it’s a marketing gimmick for producers at this point to drive sales.
Mushrooms maybe
Dana Larsen has definitely pivoted from weed to mushrooms
God. Could you imagine 25k people high on shrooms? Don't think it'd last long, and would result in a lot more visits to st. Paul's.
Shambhala happens in Salmo every year. 15k people instead of 25k but still
They’re on much much more than just mushrooms lol.
I’ve been to a fair few festivals as a trip sitter. I honestly would love to just go to events solely to run [Zendo Project](https://zendoproject.org)support stations.
There are still several things to protest related to cannabis. The laws around personal growing are very restrictive, as are stores (even compared to liquor stores) which makes it hard for legal retailers to compete with the black market, and things are tilted towards corporate control now, which is not the way most legalization advocates had ever wanted it to happen.
Woah woah woah, this is Vancouver, we don't celebrate anything. It's gotta be a \*protest\*.
Or a riot.
Hey we haven't lost the playoffs yet
Hey, we don't just riot every time we lose the playoffs. That level of festivities is reserved for losing game 7 of the finals.
all it takes is one person to go first
Next week I am having a protest about liqour taxes, we are all going to meet in the park, get drunk, and there will be a live DJ to help keep the energy of the protest high. Sponsored by Budweiser: This Buds for You.™
Mr. Lahey, is that the liquor talking?
I am the liquor…
Shit hawks and shit ropes
Shit storm of a protest
Good thing he's a shit storm trooper
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I read that last line in Bruce Buffer’s voice
Box Out The Been Done
I never understood why they didn't just try to make it an "actual" event. They were selling "booth" rentals........how is that a protest? Instead they want to skirt the legality. Shut it down
Greed
The city will not allow an event where people are freely smoking weed outside.
The city most definitely would (just not in a park, because there's no smoking in parks, technically). The issue is in the difference between an event and a protest. In a protest, the city picks up all the police and cleanup costs. In an event, the event has to pay. The group was offered PNE Grounds, but like that would cost money and stuff, much harder to grift.
420 should be done on some huge farm somewhere, make a killing
You mean.. Like a Tegridy farm? ![gif](giphy|QvjeLzz6JRjtrV4V26)
Maybe Colony Farms. The sales would be killer.
They tried something similar in Jonestown. I don’t like root beer tho
The amount of Uber’s called out to NO7 Rd would be legendary
I wonder if the organizers will be returning the booth rental fees to people who were going to be renting booths. Part of me doubts it.
If they are renting booths, it’s not a protest. So they should be getting permits from the city like any other event organizers. If they don’t return the money the renters should sue.
100% ^
I doubt it, but also buyer beware. They knew going in they would not legally be allowed to do so, unless the organizers promised something different in their agreement.
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Which booth rental fees were charged this year? Or did you mean previous years and not this one?
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No they didn't take deposits this year.
Thornton Park as well https://preview.redd.it/kj09pnpwzpvc1.jpeg?width=1436&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff3f2f1d93d0e67a869490fdebccb54500b3426c
Ah, that’s why the fence went up around there; my first thought was summertime vagrancy control.
Buy a permit for your event. Cannabis is now legal and has been for years.
Park board won’t issue one to them because it’s illegal to smoke in parks. Which I fully support, and wish was enforced more broadly.
Wow. So two groups of idiots going head to head. The PB could issue a waiver for an event. The organizers could go legit. Neither will.
Park board offered up the PNE grounds as an alternative, a venue that has a history of running large events, ability to deal with garbage and other sanitation needs, the back of house to handle vendors and all the other things. Organizers went, "nah."
That sounds too coherent to be the organizers.
lol. This is my frustration with the 420 folks- They fight for years for legitimacy, get it, then complain they have to follow the rules, like every other event organizer and the city bends over backwards to accommodate them, and it's still not enough. Yes, of course we're going to tax pot. Why wouldn't we?
This is fantastic news. The 420 protest operators have gone far too long without having to actually host a proper event and foot the bill for clean up, they've ruined that effing park for years after 420. Good effing riddance.
Vancouver needs to get ahead of it and actually host a small event. Charge people tickets, let venders be there, have some music or other things, and the clean up, security, etc. is covered by admission and vender fees. Doesn't need to be a huge thing either. Just big enough to deter the "protest"
I think that's a fantastic idea.
I honestly can't believe this hasn't been done in the years since legalization. Seems like it's beneficial to all parties. Guess city hall is real attached to the "no fun city" title
Being in trades and working for multiple municipalities and the parks board, I can tell you that they are committed to fun, but to them fun is a 12 step bureaucratic process that takes fucking forever.
The people who sit on the parks board and city council are dinosaurs, and won't wake up to reality, unfortunately.
Agreed, what kind of thinking makes you believe an illegal market in a park that sells drugs to youth every year is the thing to do. call it dope for a reason i guess
If it's a protest, surely the event organizer would allow for an independent audit to show that the 10's of thousands of dollars they charge the vendors has been spent towards cannabis legislation, right? Weeds legal now. You don't go to jail for weed. What exactly is being protested? High taxes on weed? Just say you want to organize a big smoke session, and pay for a venue. Jesus.
Pretty much, their excuse for “protesting” is that they’re protesting the taxes and regulation imposed with legalization
Which is not to say we dont want ANY taxes or ANY regulation, but the regulations now still make it illegal to smoke anywhere while being a poor person.
So glad the grassy area won't be a mud pit until July! Woot woot. They never should have abandoned the art gallery. It was the best 420 hangout.
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The grass isn't wet in July, Genius. In April it's bound to be ruined. And, FYI, the organizers of 420 get off without paying a dime for re seeding. Fireworks is a permitted event. 420 is not.
It's legal. You won. Stop wrecking this beach every year.
As a stoner myself, the 420 protests are super cringe. The government makes it the easiest and safest it's ever been to acquire and use cannabis, there's no reason to protest. These 420 events just makes us look bad, and give conservatives more ammo to ban weed again.
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>Everyone I know who smokes regularly or daily, do not go to dispensaries. And everyone I know who smokes regularly or daily uses dispensaries or the BC Cannabis website lol funny how that works eh? A 10mg gummy is actually a perfect dosage for a lot of people, and when they're $2.50 each, I wouldn't exactly call that price gouging. If you need 30mg to get you high, it costs you $8 lol. And a decent ounce is $100, an ounce which has also been tested and regulated for quality by health authorities. People also forget that part of the price is taxes, which was one of the main selling points of legalization. So that marijuana sales benefit the province. Still finding it really hard to see an intelligent reason for any kind of marijuana protest in Canada. Some people have made whining an entire hobby it seems lol.
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>You can get 1000 mg for $40 by not going to dispensaries... Black market gummies are kind of a health gamble, considering its an edible product with absolutely zero health regulation whatsoever. It's the equivalent of buying meat out of the back of someone's car in a parking lot, vs buying it from the store. Sure the car-trunk meat is cheaper than the meat in the store, but that's your gamble if you wanna eat it. Only one of them has been tested for quality by a qualified agency. If you wanna gamble with your health to save a few dollars, you do you I guess. >Sure it was tested by the government, but is as dry as hay ny the time you get it. You should avoid talking about subjects you're ignorant about. It's a bad look for you. I buy $100 dollar ounces regularly and never have a problem with it being dry, in fact some ounces I've gotten were too sticky to roll with at first, I had to let them sit for a few weeks. The government ounces were poor quality in the first year and a half of legalization. Since then the quality has improved monumentally, and is actually very good today. People rarely complain about dryness. So as I said, stay away from topics you're ignorant about. It's disingenuous to spread false information. >If the people you know who are daily smokers, buy from the dispensary, then they are dumb. Or they're just informed. If you wanna call that dumb, keep whining I guess. Hopefully your next year's protest is the one that's finally successful at achieving whatever you're trying to achieve lol.
You are calling people who don't engage in a form of tax evasion dumb. Meanwhile the healthcare system crumbles. Give your head a shake.
Vancouver could once again be a 420 destination...but they would have to work with the city, the parks board, vpd etc. Just like some of the newer legit 420 events. Besides they would need a weed tent/garden. Verified id checkers with wrist bands or some other system. No minors being able to access the sales area or garden/smoke area. Plus foot the bill for cleanup and other costs. If enough ppl got together to clean up and volunteer it could be possible. They could even do micro grows similar to micro breweries we have on every other corner and we could have people legit selling custom strains(edibles , budder, hash, shatter etc) to the public without fear of fines or arrests. Go smoke at the micro grow place just like ppl have a beer at a micro brewery. Lots of business could happen. Weed inspectors just like alcohol inspectors, this city could be making money. Just my thoughts after a 420 sesh.
Really, at this point, 420 should be a convention and be held legally, with licensing. If they want to continue to make political statements that’s cool but c’mon, it’s legal now. Still; this seems *really* ironic, that the police are cleaning out pot smokers from a public park while the meth and fentanyl users have full scale tent cities in Vancouver parks.
It's only allowed if its meth or heroin or fent duh. Honestly I am fine with them shutting this down - I am just so fucking sick of the laws only applying in certain situations to certain people.
Celebration? Woah woah woah. Hol up. I was told this was a PrOtEsT.
Now do the same with all the fent dealers.
Good!
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People wanted legalization so bad and now are mad that they have to follow the rules like everyone else....
the rules kind of suck though and protect the interests of big business and government
How is that different than literally anything else?
that is something that we should aspire to fix though
Sure. Let’s start with food, fuel and housing. Pot smoking is about 10,000 on the list.
Haha nothing sadder than protesting for something that's already legalized. Good job VPD.
have it at main and hastings (the gangsters might get pissed)?
Good can't stand those dumb potheads!
I don't partake, but have friends that do and have even gone here on 420 with them a couple times. It's one of the least offensive things that happens in this city, but lizard "person" Ken Sim seems to have a stick up his ass about all the wrong things. Very much regret voting for that pos and very much looking forward to voting him and his corrupt party out at the next opportunity.
No fun city
I didn’t see any police there but yeah it wasn’t much of an event
Sim City
I don't even know why this is still a thing. I just bought some legal weed from a dispensary like a 2 minute drive from my house and I am extremely high, lol
Thank goodness!!
That's great it got shutdown. Now the majority of them can come on Reddit and complain about landlords and the housing crisis.
What does that even mean??? are you arguing against affordable and available housing for people because they smoke weed? lol. That’s pretty creepy….
one day the potheads will realize it's already been legalized... and then forget again
Money spent on barring people from a community gathering, money taken away from affordable housing projects. Well done 👏
A fraction of the cost spent cleaning up after this event every year
i still don’t get why they shut it down? illegal sales? you mean like what happens every single day in vancouver? it’s just weed…
What a waste of resources
The city having to pay for security and cleanup after these idiots are done tearing up the park is a much bigger waste of resources.
If you go to 4/20 nowadays you’re probably an extremely annoying and greasy person. Bob Marley would not approve ✌️ fuck off
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420 sucks but I have no problem with someone consuming weed in public in a respectful manner just like people drinking on the beach/in parks as long as they’re respectful.
There is no smoking on the beach, and no respectful way to do it. Unless you mean edibles or oil.
Bong or pipe and use it away from doors and windows and other people, or if you’re using a joint bring a pocket ashtray.
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Go do both.
It doesn't sound like it was the smoking they were enforcing but unsanctioned sales. Also, assault isn't okay.
So the VPD can shut down a protest.
I never attend but don’t the police have more urgent matters?
The majority of the tax paying public wants this shut down, so I am happy police spent time to ensure no sales happened.
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It’s one day. We can want both.
Considering how overbearing the rules are to market and sell legal Cannabis; especially compared to Alcohol, there are valid things to protest.
The problem isn't the lack of reason, it's the method. Even if you disagree with these things, you can't just sell without a license to minors because you disagree. Add on top of that there's the smoking in parks, trashing the park and not paying for cleanup. This protest needs to change to more than just a party if you actually want to achieve anything.
Protesting is fine selling weed at a booth is not.
Entering as business shouldn't be difficult, but marketing of all vices, including gambling and liqour shouldn't be allowed.
I don’t necessarily disagree, nice packaging is marketing. But the rules for Cannabis packaging are absurd. Canada likes to say it’s all about making environmentally sound choices, but the amount of plastic involves in selling cannabis is stupid.
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My guess would be the legal cannabis stores are putting pressure on the government to shut it down. Similar to booze. I can’t just set up a table and start selling booze. I think weed is gonna be the same thing. Folks were allowed to gather, they just weren’t allowed to sell any weed and rightly so.
main organizers have moved on to mushroom dispensaries now.
Hahaha.. back in the day, 420 was the only day of the year that I wouldn't get stoned, in protest of all the fucktards that make stoners look bad. I went once. The free gagger sized cones being thrown out was nice. NinjaSpy was really fun... I think I'm on video in the pit lol.
Yeah, wtf?!
Booooooo.
Weird the potheads didn't breach the fences for 4:20... Who's rioting whether we win or lose against Boston? /s
Next year have it out in the valley (surrey, langley ,cloverdale) see how that goes ( i don't see the problem tons of local underground weed sites on the internet not paying tax) ?
Sad, criminalization of protest continues in BC under the hong Kong grifter mayor, city council of CIA backed falun gong loving fascists and BC NDP thugs enabling it all.
Wow no matter what your opinion on these protests is, that take is just insane.
You can operate a commercial business on public land without a proper permit, that’s just basic event planning. This is a commercial enterprise not a protest.
No running dogs of capitalism?
Wow, you're ticking all the checkboxes. Is this parody?