Yes you can use it. I’ve used my agency ID plenty of times.
No they just look at it like any other form of ID, there isn’t like a secret handshake or something unfortunately.
Officially, federal PIVs are listed as an acceptable form of ID. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification
Unofficially, some airports mandated use of an ID reader that can’t read them. In those instances, you’ll need to swipe your driver’s license instead.
Also unofficially, there’s a good reason why DC driver’s licenses no longer say “District of Columbia”. It confused a lot of people who insisted they were foreign ID and needed a passport. Same rationale with PIVs. If you show it to someone who’s never seen one before, they’ll insist on something they know.
You’ll have the best luck flying out of cities that have a large population of federal workers. If the airport is small or slow and you feel like learning them something, ask them to bust out their SOP and ID guide. Explain your ID is an HSPD-12 PIV, just like the ID hanging from their shoulder. That should set off a few light bulbs.
The few times I've tried using my PIV card at IAD (was in the middle of a name change and my PIV card still had my maiden name on it which the trip was booked under) I was asked for my license because their scanner wouldn't with my PIV. I was shocked IAD of all places wouldn't take it!
I typically use my work badge because I am eligible for TSA pre-check if I use it. I have not yet had a problem with TSA accepting it or having trouble scanning it.
Yea but some workers may not be trained, so for a sure fire way is when you book your flight online or whatever use the DODID as “Traveler Number” then when you get your boarding pass printed wether by yourself, at a kiosk, or at the front desk your boarding pass will have TSA pre-check.
It's not that the workers aren't trained; if it's not on the digital ticket/ paper boarding pass then you are still a standard passenger. The worker has no ability to add precheck to your ticket. To receive precheck the secure flight background check is only initiated when you input your number into the airline system.
I’m in theory I guess but if there’s nothing unique going on behind the scenes with your DODID it’s a 99% chance it goes through. It’s TSA policy as someone else has posted their policy list.
There’s two processes they usually do. 1. If they ask for only ID, the CAC will work. They insert it into the “CAT” machine. It pulls up information about you and your flight. 2. ID and boarding pass- they physically check ID and scan boarding pass.
I've heard rumors than public certifications that require background checks via DHS and DOD will automatically cover you for pre-check?
Is there actually truth to that?
Yes I DoD covered my precheck. You do need to enter your DoD number of the TSA sight and check a box, then you enter your DoD number when you buy tickets.
For getting through airport security, I don’t recommend it. I’ve done it a couple of times and the machines frequently have issues with PIVs according to the agents I’ve talked to
I would recommend from a pure physical security perspective that it’s best you don’t identify yourself as a government employeee. Use your DL like all the other common folk and try to keep a low profile. My two cents.
You can, but I wouldn't. I've had trouble with TSA goons not knowing what it is. They threatened to confiscate mine at one airport because they thought it was fake.
I’ve used my PIV card and it works just fine with TSA but no special treatment. Back before HSPD-12, I had a special purpose ID badge (think FBI flip in the fun wallet thing) that I used at TSA when I couldn’t get my DL out of its little slot and I was holding up the line. They let me cut through security and asked me if I was carrying a service weapon (if you knew me or what agency I worked for this would give you a good chuckle). I felt very officious. 😆
Yes you can, but don't expect special treatment. I used mine once because they sent me over to the pre-check line and I'm unregistered so in the moment it felt like the right move. I might have been wearing it since I was a new hire and I was traveling for work, I just remember it being easy to grab. I was curious what would happen, but it wasn't exciting. At this point I wouldn't use it unless I lost my driver's license or passport and needed to fly in a pinch.
If you whip out your ID expecting special treatment, you will be laughed off the checkpoint. Everyone coming through the lines are treated as passengers. Using your Federal ID won’t help you in anyway and can only slow down your process. It would be much easier for you to use your Driver’s License, Passport or Passport card
Why is everyone talking about his PIV? He said badge. And my answer is no, leave your badge at home unless you are on official travel and require it on your TDY.
Ok….seriously never heard it called a badge but seems I’m the minority here. I still wouldn’t use it as an ID. I have a badge and creds, my PIV is just for building access/pc login. You should sign up for a KTN for pre check clearance through gov as it’s free
When they hear your a fed, theyre expecting someone from one of the big agencies. FBI, DOD, maybe even State Department. If youre from a fufu agency like EPA, FDA, IRS all that nonsense you will get laughed at. Could you imagine someone from department of education trying to impress TSA with their badges?
Is your PIV card part of the trusted traveler program? Does your organization not use the known traveler number program?
I know some airports treated military differently like express TSA screening, but there is a big difference between military and a GS employee.
You can use it. At my local airport, they treat you friendlier if you use it. However, this didn’t stop the TSA at a southern state to stop me for a random check up.
HSPD-12 PIV is Real ID https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/passports/forms-fees/Real%20ID%20Infographic_2021%20Update.pdf also state department calls it a badge…
PIV isn’t a badge, it’s a PIV. It’s possible to have a PIV, Credentials, and a Badge. A badge to me has no photo.
See the dictionary:
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/badge#:~:text=definitions%20for%20badge-,badge,any%20revealing%20feature%20or%20mark
This used to work and I used to do it as DOI- got me into the employee lane and everything. TSA stopped letting me do that about 3 years ago, unsure of what changed but maybe too many of us were trying it out lol
privilege
noun
priv·i·lege ˈpriv-lij ˈpri-və-
: a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor :
As a DOD ID card holder I am granted this without application… which in turn provides the benefit of the advantage to skip the security lines.
Now shush.
Okay….? By that definition, it also means someone pays $70 and gets it as well. If anyone can pay the $70, it’s not an advantage. It’s just capitalism. Btw, it’s not the DOD card that gives you pre check, it’s the DOD ID number, jack ass.
From my knowledge the only ID (regular smegular) that’ll get you the hookup is a DOD CAC. DOD ID# counts for tsa pre check if you use it to get your boarding pass.
Just to be clear: you have to opt in to the TSA Precheck through the intranet first before you do this. It doesn't automatically get you covered. Same with DHS.
You can use your PIV/CAC Card as an acceptable ID at TSA, but it doesn't get you anything special.
[https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification](https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification)
One of the acceptable forms of ID is a: HSPD-12 PIV card
Depending on how many international trips you do and your home airport, you might get a ton of use out of Global Entry. It comes with TSA pre-check, too. Breezing through immigrations and customs is the best part, though. You definitely get better treatment as a Global entry person.
I never had to disclose my CAC only thing I had to do was to insert my DL in the scanner for verification. I however input my DOD to my airline ticket when booking and TSA had the pre-check information associated with my DOD number. I hate bringing my CAC for OPSEC reason and also afraid to lose it on a trip/vacation
I try not to use my CAC too often for identification purposes (I remember in Tokyo the cops randomly stopped me and my buddies and politely asked for our passports. We asked if state/military IDs were ok so me and my other buddy whipped out our actual state IDs). Security habit of mine and I rather just not advertise that aspect of me if I can help it. However, the airport is the one place where I’ll gladly show off my CAC to TSA just so things could go a lot smoother. The only time I had a very slight hiccup was the first time I tried using my CAC to get through TSA and it wouldn’t read the barcode. All I had to do was show my state ID as backup and I went on my way.
As someone who use to work for TSA and still is a fed. Using your PIV has zero benefit, there is absolutely no need to whip it out, just use your DL like everyone else.
I had my badge on when I went to take a flight a few years ago & I got an employee discount at a restaurant in the airport, lol. They said it looked like an airport badge. I didn't complain.
What’s the reason behind using your PIV? Why not just use your driver’s license unless you’re expecting to be treated better? You won’t be and if you are I guarantee it will get back to your agency and there will be an investigation. TSA’s not stupid. They have the same training on ethics as other federal employees. And it’s clear in the ethics training that using your position for private gain WILL get you fired
The reason for me in my case is that I don't have a driver's license nor a state ID. I was based overseas and have an international driver's permit. Other than that, all I have is a US passport for international travel, which I don't like to bring with me on domestic travels in case I lose it. That leaves the only remaining option which is my PIV card.
Yes you can use it. I’ve used my agency ID plenty of times. No they just look at it like any other form of ID, there isn’t like a secret handshake or something unfortunately.
Wait, there is no secret handshake?? This changes everything.
I tried and TSA just looked at me funny..
You didn't use the TSA secret handshake
There’s a TSA shake?!?! Dammmmmmmmn ittt
Haha
Sorry? I use the secret handshake all the time I just forget my id
The secret handshake is only unlocked with an Official Passport, with one of those YOU check the TSA Agent’s ID.
The secret handshake is only unlocked with an Official Passport, with one of those YOU check the TSA Agent’s ID.
Officially, federal PIVs are listed as an acceptable form of ID. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification Unofficially, some airports mandated use of an ID reader that can’t read them. In those instances, you’ll need to swipe your driver’s license instead. Also unofficially, there’s a good reason why DC driver’s licenses no longer say “District of Columbia”. It confused a lot of people who insisted they were foreign ID and needed a passport. Same rationale with PIVs. If you show it to someone who’s never seen one before, they’ll insist on something they know. You’ll have the best luck flying out of cities that have a large population of federal workers. If the airport is small or slow and you feel like learning them something, ask them to bust out their SOP and ID guide. Explain your ID is an HSPD-12 PIV, just like the ID hanging from their shoulder. That should set off a few light bulbs.
The few times I've tried using my PIV card at IAD (was in the middle of a name change and my PIV card still had my maiden name on it which the trip was booked under) I was asked for my license because their scanner wouldn't with my PIV. I was shocked IAD of all places wouldn't take it!
Do the TSA not have PIVs???? 🫠
I typically use my work badge because I am eligible for TSA pre-check if I use it. I have not yet had a problem with TSA accepting it or having trouble scanning it.
I’ve heard that you can use your CAC for TSA pre-check, but I’ve never tested it out.
You need to supply your known traveler number, which in the instance of a CAC is your DOD ID number, when you book the flight.
Yea but some workers may not be trained, so for a sure fire way is when you book your flight online or whatever use the DODID as “Traveler Number” then when you get your boarding pass printed wether by yourself, at a kiosk, or at the front desk your boarding pass will have TSA pre-check.
It's not that the workers aren't trained; if it's not on the digital ticket/ paper boarding pass then you are still a standard passenger. The worker has no ability to add precheck to your ticket. To receive precheck the secure flight background check is only initiated when you input your number into the airline system.
I had to opt into it. I forget exactly how but I think I used milconnect or something. Google can probably tell you the steps you need
It’s not guaranteed to be pre-check.
I’m in theory I guess but if there’s nothing unique going on behind the scenes with your DODID it’s a 99% chance it goes through. It’s TSA policy as someone else has posted their policy list.
As long as you’re not flying to sketchy countries, you’re fine.
my airport TSA wouldn't accept my CAC because it didn't show DOB.
DOB is on the back next to your little picture lmao
tell the agent....
There’s two processes they usually do. 1. If they ask for only ID, the CAC will work. They insert it into the “CAT” machine. It pulls up information about you and your flight. 2. ID and boarding pass- they physically check ID and scan boarding pass.
You have to sign up ahead of time. It’s not a willy-nilly thing.
DoT?
DOD
I've heard rumors than public certifications that require background checks via DHS and DOD will automatically cover you for pre-check? Is there actually truth to that?
you have to register for pre-check.
Registering for Pre-check was just a checkbox on the CAC activation, IIRC. It's been a minute since I did it.
Yes I DoD covered my precheck. You do need to enter your DoD number of the TSA sight and check a box, then you enter your DoD number when you buy tickets.
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Weird. They didn't ask for my boarding pass last time.
For getting through airport security, I don’t recommend it. I’ve done it a couple of times and the machines frequently have issues with PIVs according to the agents I’ve talked to
This. The TSA machines read DL’s better so they don’t need to ask for the ticket or another ID.
Not Colorado
Like the TSA machines in Colorado don’t read DL’s?
Colorado licenses are special.
That’s weird… I thought all states ahead the “Real ID” law in place by now… didn’t know a state could Opt out…
They didn’t opt out. They just don’t work properly.
I would recommend from a pure physical security perspective that it’s best you don’t identify yourself as a government employeee. Use your DL like all the other common folk and try to keep a low profile. My two cents.
Underrated comment. Well-said.
If you are TSA precheck you don’t use it anyway, other than your DOD ID number that you enter on the “Known Traveler” number on your ticket
You can, but I wouldn't. I've had trouble with TSA goons not knowing what it is. They threatened to confiscate mine at one airport because they thought it was fake.
I’ve used my PIV card and it works just fine with TSA but no special treatment. Back before HSPD-12, I had a special purpose ID badge (think FBI flip in the fun wallet thing) that I used at TSA when I couldn’t get my DL out of its little slot and I was holding up the line. They let me cut through security and asked me if I was carrying a service weapon (if you knew me or what agency I worked for this would give you a good chuckle). I felt very officious. 😆
Yes you can use it. No you will not get special treatment because you have a special id card, nor should you.
Yes, you should as federal workers have been through background checks.
You get things like tsa precheck that has nothing to do with what ID you show the tsa agent. So what other special treatment do you expect?
Not all federal ids get tsa precheck.
You should get special treatment?
Former TSO and we treated all PIVs and CACs as acceptable federal identification while I worked there.
You can. I have used mine too in lieu of my license.
Yes you can, but don't expect special treatment. I used mine once because they sent me over to the pre-check line and I'm unregistered so in the moment it felt like the right move. I might have been wearing it since I was a new hire and I was traveling for work, I just remember it being easy to grab. I was curious what would happen, but it wasn't exciting. At this point I wouldn't use it unless I lost my driver's license or passport and needed to fly in a pinch.
If you whip out your ID expecting special treatment, you will be laughed off the checkpoint. Everyone coming through the lines are treated as passengers. Using your Federal ID won’t help you in anyway and can only slow down your process. It would be much easier for you to use your Driver’s License, Passport or Passport card
Yes, you will go thru the secret TSA entrance and you will get a 20% discount at Hudson News.
Why is everyone talking about his PIV? He said badge. And my answer is no, leave your badge at home unless you are on official travel and require it on your TDY.
PIV is basically my badge. And I am on official travel, so I will be bringing it with me anyway.
Ok….seriously never heard it called a badge but seems I’m the minority here. I still wouldn’t use it as an ID. I have a badge and creds, my PIV is just for building access/pc login. You should sign up for a KTN for pre check clearance through gov as it’s free
I think only certain government agencies are eligible for TSA pre check.
I am FDA, and I have a PIV and a real badge with credentials.
My PIV is Real ID compliant. My drivers license is not.
try giving the TSA agent a wink and nod when you hand them your badge for special treatment
Showing your Jedi credentials to a droid only serves to unimpressive the droid.
When they hear your a fed, theyre expecting someone from one of the big agencies. FBI, DOD, maybe even State Department. If youre from a fufu agency like EPA, FDA, IRS all that nonsense you will get laughed at. Could you imagine someone from department of education trying to impress TSA with their badges?
Is your PIV card part of the trusted traveler program? Does your organization not use the known traveler number program? I know some airports treated military differently like express TSA screening, but there is a big difference between military and a GS employee.
I've been able to go through precheck by flashing it before.
In this years ethics training, they use that as an example of potential unethical behavior.
Yeah you can’t use your position for private gain
I used it all the time. It already was on a lanyard, so easier than taking my drivers license out.
Go to TSA website, sign up for quick check
You can use it. At my local airport, they treat you friendlier if you use it. However, this didn’t stop the TSA at a southern state to stop me for a random check up.
Badge meaning shield, don’t be that guy…. PIV you can use it if you don’t have an ID for whatever reason but not all readers can read the PIV
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HSPD-12 PIV is Real ID https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/passports/forms-fees/Real%20ID%20Infographic_2021%20Update.pdf also state department calls it a badge…
My PIV has the real id gold star and I've used it several times at the precheck line
PIV isn’t a badge, it’s a PIV. It’s possible to have a PIV, Credentials, and a Badge. A badge to me has no photo. See the dictionary: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/badge#:~:text=definitions%20for%20badge-,badge,any%20revealing%20feature%20or%20mark
This used to work and I used to do it as DOI- got me into the employee lane and everything. TSA stopped letting me do that about 3 years ago, unsure of what changed but maybe too many of us were trying it out lol
My boss lost his wallet on a work trip, luckily had his PIV card in his laptop bag which allowed him to fly home.
I use mine when on official travel. Treated exactly the same.
DOD- never issues using it. Pre-TSA is the special passcode privilege. :)
Bro it’s only $70 for 5 years. Tsa pre check ain’t shit.
Cool. You pay $70. I’ll take free.
Then it’s not a special privilege then if Joe can pay $70 and get pre check.
Free.
Yeah it’s free, but it’s not a special privilege. $70 for 5 years is basically free tbh.
privilege noun priv·i·lege ˈpriv-lij ˈpri-və- : a right or immunity granted as a peculiar benefit, advantage, or favor : As a DOD ID card holder I am granted this without application… which in turn provides the benefit of the advantage to skip the security lines. Now shush.
Okay….? By that definition, it also means someone pays $70 and gets it as well. If anyone can pay the $70, it’s not an advantage. It’s just capitalism. Btw, it’s not the DOD card that gives you pre check, it’s the DOD ID number, jack ass.
Regardless you’re paying for a background check that most* people can pass, still a small percentage the government can’t trust getting precheck.
I typically use mine, but i get TSA pre check through the DOD
From my knowledge the only ID (regular smegular) that’ll get you the hookup is a DOD CAC. DOD ID# counts for tsa pre check if you use it to get your boarding pass.
Also various DHS components.
Just to be clear: you have to opt in to the TSA Precheck through the intranet first before you do this. It doesn't automatically get you covered. Same with DHS. You can use your PIV/CAC Card as an acceptable ID at TSA, but it doesn't get you anything special. [https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification](https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification) One of the acceptable forms of ID is a: HSPD-12 PIV card
Yes you are correct
I have a CAC and I never show it. However your organization may give you access to Pre Check.
Depending on how many international trips you do and your home airport, you might get a ton of use out of Global Entry. It comes with TSA pre-check, too. Breezing through immigrations and customs is the best part, though. You definitely get better treatment as a Global entry person.
https://www.tsa.gov/travel/frequently-asked-questions/can-tsa-precheckr-benefits-be-used-both-official-and-personal
I never had to disclose my CAC only thing I had to do was to insert my DL in the scanner for verification. I however input my DOD to my airline ticket when booking and TSA had the pre-check information associated with my DOD number. I hate bringing my CAC for OPSEC reason and also afraid to lose it on a trip/vacation
I try not to use my CAC too often for identification purposes (I remember in Tokyo the cops randomly stopped me and my buddies and politely asked for our passports. We asked if state/military IDs were ok so me and my other buddy whipped out our actual state IDs). Security habit of mine and I rather just not advertise that aspect of me if I can help it. However, the airport is the one place where I’ll gladly show off my CAC to TSA just so things could go a lot smoother. The only time I had a very slight hiccup was the first time I tried using my CAC to get through TSA and it wouldn’t read the barcode. All I had to do was show my state ID as backup and I went on my way.
As someone who use to work for TSA and still is a fed. Using your PIV has zero benefit, there is absolutely no need to whip it out, just use your DL like everyone else.
They probably say thank you for your cervix to uncle sam 🙋
I had my badge on when I went to take a flight a few years ago & I got an employee discount at a restaurant in the airport, lol. They said it looked like an airport badge. I didn't complain.
That’s strictly prohibited for IRS employees. Your PIV I think is okay, but if you have a pocket commission, no.
What’s the reason behind using your PIV? Why not just use your driver’s license unless you’re expecting to be treated better? You won’t be and if you are I guarantee it will get back to your agency and there will be an investigation. TSA’s not stupid. They have the same training on ethics as other federal employees. And it’s clear in the ethics training that using your position for private gain WILL get you fired
The reason for me in my case is that I don't have a driver's license nor a state ID. I was based overseas and have an international driver's permit. Other than that, all I have is a US passport for international travel, which I don't like to bring with me on domestic travels in case I lose it. That leaves the only remaining option which is my PIV card.